8th grader arrested,suspended for NRA tshirt

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Technically, the NRA is against forced registration which unfortunately would be necessary in order to enforce the background check (despite any language to the contrary). They also brokered the deal by which the KTM bullet was removed (voluntarily) from the civilian market. There's never been any proof that the bullet was any more effective in penetrating soft body armor than many other commercially available bullets.

As for the shirt, if the teacher had an issue, the principal should have gotten involved. It does not appear on the surface to be a CLEAR violation of school policy. So, based on that, no suspension for the shirt (his behavior is another story) he should just be told to turn it inside out and not wear it again.

We also don't know what happened before this. Has he worn this shirt before, been asked to turn it inside out, and warned not to return, or was this the first time? Has the definition of disruption been clarified for the school community, so that they can reasonably expect that the student would know that this shirt would be an issue? There's a lot of missing info here.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

We also don't know what happened before this. Has he worn this shirt before, been asked to turn it inside out, and warned not to return, or was this the first time? Has the definition of disruption been clarified for the school community, so that they can reasonably expect that the student would know that this shirt would be an issue? There's a lot of missing info here.

Correct - all important info.

I went to the article and apparently his arrest was for "disrupting the educational process" because of the argument he had with the teacher. THAT is kind of disturbing. The school can dish out whatever they wish, but arrested for arguing? Seems odd.

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Correct - all important info.

I went to the article and apparently his arrest was for "disrupting the educational process" because of the argument he had with the teacher. THAT is kind of disturbing. The school can dish out whatever they wish, but arrested for arguing? Seems odd.

I have no idea what happened, nothing more than this argument, but the school is bound to protect this kid's privacy even if the parent isn't. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the "argument" included veiled or semi-veiled threats, or physical intimidation.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

You realize he's joking don't ya. All his comments reference his "gifties".

Sorry, I didn't realize. Don't follow this poster so don't know what his other posts reference.

 

[Granny square]

Correct - all important info.

I went to the article and apparently his arrest was for "disrupting the educational process" because of the argument he had with the teacher. THAT is kind of disturbing. The school can dish out whatever they wish, but arrested for arguing? Seems odd.

Lol, it is like when someone's only charge is "resisting arrest". Really? How is that possible? Or rather logical.

The shirt didn't show illegal behavior. It merely promoted the right for gun ownership. No big deal. Just like it isn't a big deal when a little kid "shoots" someone with their peanut butter sandwich. Or when a girl is suspended for taking an aspirin. People need to worry about the real stuff and quit wasting time, money, manpower and energy on stupid.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

I have no idea what happened, nothing more than this argument, but the school is bound to protect this kid's privacy even if the parent isn't. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the "argument" included veiled or semi-veiled threats, or physical intimidation.

If it did, he should definitely be charged as such. This charge sounds like pure nonsense, even if a charge IS warranted

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Lol, it is like when someone's only charge is "resisting arrest". Really? How is that possible? Or rather logical.

The shirt didn't show illegal behavior. It merely promoted the right for gun ownership. No big deal. Just like it isn't a big deal when a little kid "shoots" someone with their peanut butter sandwich. Or when a girl is suspended for taking an aspirin. People need to worry about the real stuff and quit wasting time, money, manpower and energy on stupid.

 

[Planogirl]

Our schools would never allow any clothing to show a gun. It's clearly spelled out.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

How have I not heard "gifties" before?

 

[Gumbo4x4]

How have I not heard "gifties" before?

You haven't been around much lately

 

[SMD]

An eithe grade student from West Virginia has been arrested, suspended and faces charges for wearing an NRA T-shirt with the image of a firearm and the words "Protect Your Right" printed on it to school.

But that aside, he was arrested for arguing with the teacher. It's probably hard for an eighth grader to realize that his best bet during a confrontation is to just comply, change the shirt, and go back later with a parent and argue for the shirt. But, while it may not be right or fair, the reality is, in schools and on airplanes, be prepared for the consequences of not following directions.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

But that aside, he was arrested for arguing with the teacher. It's probably hard for an eighth grader to realize that his best bet during a confrontation is to just comply, change the shirt, and go back later with a parent and argue for the shirt. But, while it may not be right or fair, the reality is, in schools and on airplanes, be prepared for the consequences of not following directions.

I think one fully expects whatever punishment the school can dish out. I don't think getting arrested for arguing policy with a teacher is what one expects. My wife worked in the principal's office at our MS, and it took a LOT for the police to get involved.

 

[tasha99]

Given that organization's role in defeating common sense legislation the shirt could easily be defined as disruptive.

If the justification for not passing laws is that people will disobey them, we might as well do away with the speed limit on I-95.

The term "common sense legislation" is offensive and stops all dialogue. It means if you disagree, you lack common sense. If it were common sense, we would already have it. It's not common sense--it's debatable (hence the current debate about what gun control might give us in terms of safety and what me might lose in terms of freedom).

 

[shortbun]

Our schools have zero tolerance for weapons, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs of any kind. No pictures in lockers, no t-shirts advocating...completely zero tolerance. That shirt was intentionally inflammatory and deserves suspension.
No child would have been allowed to wear it here.

 

[PaulaSB12]

http://news.yahoo.com/8th-grader-arrested-suspended-nra-protect-t-shirt-174825948.html

"An eithe grade student from West Virginia has been arrested, suspended and faces charges for wearing an NRA T-shirt with the image of a firearm and the words "Protect Your Right" printed on it to school."

The article goes on to quote the school dress code:

"A student will not dress or groom in a manner that disrupts the educational process or is detrimental to the health, safety or welfare of others. A student will not dress in a manner that is distractive or indecent, to the extent that it interferes with the teaching and learning process, including wearing any apparel that displays or promotes any drug-, alcohol- or tobacco-related product that is prohibited in school buildings, on school grounds, in school-leased or owned vehicles, and at all school-affiliated functions."

I taught in middle and high schools for years. Basically, if the kid's shirt caused a disturbance, we would ask them to turn it inside out or change it.

While it is a sensitive time for gun supporters, it is still *legal*, so should the teacher have argued with him about it?

What if the tshirt would have read that he supported some other legal, but hot topic, like abortion?

I know it's tough for the DIS, but let's try to keep the discussion specific to what should be allowed to be worn in schools vs the hot topics themselves...

Terri

How about adding this to the rules teachers and principals will act like rational human being instead of pathetic little wimps. Tell the boy to turn the shirt inside out or go home and change it. To have him arrested was plain stupid and the act af a pathetic wimp! Arrested for arguing with a teacher, well that changes, the teacher needs to change his/her job if tey are going to get a kid arrested for arguing they don't have the balls ( figuratively speaking) to do the job.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Our schools have zero tolerance for weapons, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs of any kind. No pictures in lockers, no t-shirts advocating...completely zero tolerance. That shirt was intentionally inflammatory and deserves suspension.
No child would have been allowed to wear it here.

At the beginning of the school yr, as a parent, you are supposed to read the handbook, sign the form that you read it, turn it in to the school. If your student does not comply with the rules then disciplinary action will be taken.

This is so obvious that the shirt was worn on purpose to get in trouble. DUH.

 

[Schmeck]

I think the father needs to go back to school and learn to read. I think he missed the section of the policy that stated "including", or he just didn't understand the meaning of the word? Just because they didn't list 'firearms' as something not permitted in the school, one would think that he would know that anything gun related would be non-permissible, in as much as it met the other guidelines of being a representation of a non-permissible object.

The father was not there during the argument, so how did he know the son wasn't belligerent and threatening? The father made a very threatening quote at the end, so maybe he doesn't understand what a threat really is? Of course, posing with the large gun could be seen as part of that threat.

 

[ilovefh]

There is not enough information in the article to judge whether an arrest was warranted.

The shirt would not be allowed in our school. I would have sent the student to the dean for a new shirt.

Had the student worn it many times before? What kind of argument did he have with the teacher? What was said? How many times has he argued with his teachers? Was the teacher unable to get him to stop? Was the principal and or dean unable to get him to stop? There are too many unanswered questions.

I think most of you would be SHOCKED to hear what some kids say to teachers!

 

[momontheright]

This is why we need uniforms in public schools. I live in a parish where all public schools are required to wear uniforms and we don't have these issues. IMOP any clothing that is of a political nature should not be allowed in schools.

 

[happygirl]

The thing about dress policy everyone opinion as to what is distractive or indecent is vastly different, to me that shirt is neither distractive or indecent. IT depends on the person making the call feels about the subject in question