Strong-armed over use year :(

[mulberrybush]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written. We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

 

[dbs1228]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written. We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

Did you already purchase the direct sale? You have I believe 10 days to rescind your offer - which I recommend then you can and tell your guide the reason is you want a certain UY and if they cannot provide it you will look at the resale market - let them know it is a priority with you. I bet they will give you your UY or a the least you will put on a wait list for that UY. I have heard they will not give 2 UY out but there is always resale to get around that. I would not want the same resort with 2 UY's it is a pain at the 11 month window very doable just more work. We sold 1 of our SSR contracts because I did not like the different UY and had problems transferring points to make a reservation (an "IT" problem).

 

[disneynutz]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written. We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

If you are really set on buying direct, I would call 800 800-9100 and ask to speak to Ken Potrock the new Senior VP. I am sure that he can sell you what you want. He needs to know what's going on.

I would also get a different Guide.

Bill

 

[babesboo99]

I agree I would get a different guide. My guide asked me what use year did I want and I told him October and he said ok with out hesitation. If you want to buy direct then I would see about getting a new guide there are plenty

 

[Caren90]

OP, with a purchase of this magnitude you should always be getting what YOU want. I would take Bill's advice and contact a higher up.

Stephen

 

[lilpooh108]

Did you already sign the papers? I bought Aulani direct and changed my mind about the use year after they printed out the contract & mailed it to me, but before I signed them. The guide was annoyed but I managed to change it since at the same time, we found a small add on via resale & I wanted those UY to match. When I told her the reason she nearly flipped out.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written. We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

I go into the local dealer, I see they have two cars equipped exactly the same except one has tan leather and the other black. I really want the tan one, but the dealer says, I didn't have a good enough reason to take that over the black.

See the problem? You are the buyer, you don't need a reason! The only thing the seller needs to consider themself with is if they have the product to sell you; if they don't they should tell you, then the ball is back in your court to consider your options.

 

[JimMIA]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written.

First of all, if you are within your 10-day recision period (Florida law), rescind and start over...with a new timeshare salesperson.

If your purchase was more than a couple of weeks ago, learn to love your UY. It's not that big of a deal -- just something to be aware of and to manage.

We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

Maybe...or maybe you just misunderstand what they are telling you.

You can have as many UYs as you want for various contracts. However -- for contracts to be in the same account, they must be titled identically and they must have the same UY.

The advantage of having the same UY is that all your points are in the same account, and you can use points from any contract (subject to home resort booking windows). If you have multiple contracts with different UYs (or different titling), you have to transfer points between accounts to combine them for a particular reservation. You can only do one transfer (in or out) in each account each year, so that becomes a significant point-management issue.

So, can you get different UYs? Sure. Should you? I wouldn't if I could avoid it.

 

[NoleFan]

Get a new guide or go resale. The guide makes a commission off selling you points. For that kind of treatment, I would not want the guide to profit at my expense.

 

[Dean]

We really wanted a particular use year for our first direct contract. They wouldn't give it to me - told us we didn't have a good enough reason. Should've walked away but the contract has been written. We already have an add-on planned but I found out there is nothing available in my use year and that DVC will absolutely NOT grant two different use years. Am I being played again??

That's likely why they weren't letting you have the UY you wanted. They will allow 2 UY but you'll have separate contracts and you have to buy the minimum buy in for that resort. Frankly, I'd cancel and go resale.

 

[Minniesgal]

We insisted on the UY we wanted, we didn't give them a reason just told them what we were willing to buy You are the purchaser don't let them so this to you

 

[csharpwv]

I can understand if they don't HAVE your UY.... If you are buying a resort that isn't sold out, they should have what you prefer.

YOU are a customer, and 'your reason isn't good enough, is NOT a valid reason to refuse your request.

In all honesty, if I were you, I would have got up, said 'Thank you for your time.' and went BACK to the front desk at the Welcome Center and said.... I'm here to take a tour, and I don't want XXXX to be my guide.

That's a great way to send a clear message to a guide who might need a little cutting down to size.

If (s)he won't sell you what you want, find someone who WILL sell you what you want.

UY is important when you really put some thought in to it and consider when you will be vacationing.

If you haven't closed yet, you need to make some phone calls and actually buy what YOU want... not what they want to sell you.

You can have ALL of the UY's - there is no limit. But yes, you will have to have a separate account.

 

[elfbo]

I signed to buy direct on a recent trip. My guide completely ignored my questions about use year. Said it wouldn't make a difference. Cancelled about a week later. Our paperwork hadnt arrived so didn't even need to recind. Did some more research and determined that for what we wanted direct was best route due to lack of right UY in resales and right number of points.

Called dvc back and asked for a new guide that would better suit our needs. Just heard that we can get the contract we really wanted in the first place. Same resort same number of points just a different use year. The first guide could have made a sale if he had just listened, instead he tried to get us in a contract that did not suit our vacation style.

So dont be afraid to call them and ask for a new guide and for the contract that you really want. I also wonder if you have the same guide we first had. April UY for January trips is almost worst possible!

 

[chalee94]

That's likely why they weren't letting you have the UY you wanted. They will allow 2 UY but you'll have separate contracts and you have to buy the minimum buy in for that resort. Frankly, I'd cancel and go resale.

yep, not the guide's fault if that is the case. but the OP should have been told that they were asking for a new membership and not an "add-on."

 

[mulberrybush]

If your purchase was more than a couple of weeks ago, learn to love your UY. It's not that big of a deal -- just something to be aware of and to manage. Maybe...or maybe you just misunderstand what they are telling you.

I have done a TON of reading on here this week and have learned that the most valuable lesson for me before joining DVC is just this:
Learn to love it, limit complaints to true "needs", and enjoy something that will enrich my family for years. This seems to be true from use year to mousekeeping to room assignments. Thanks for the words of wisdom. I hope to be a humble travelers and enjoy whatever comes our way (just please not rotavirus!!!)

 

[bighoo93]

I have done a TON of reading on here this week and have learned that the most valuable lesson for me before joining DVC is just this:
Learn to love it, limit complaints to true "needs", and enjoy something that will enrich my family for years. This seems to be true from use year to mousekeeping to room assignments.

Actually, if you haven't bought yet, the best thing you can get out of all your new knowledge is an informed decision about whether you want to buy in at all. Personally, I would not buy and then hope I could learn to love it. That sounds a little like marrying someone with the expectation that you'll be able to change them into someone you like better... DVC doesn't make sense for most people, and the good news is, there are a zillion other ways to enjoy a Disney vacation without belonging to DVC. Its great that you have learned so much before buying, because now you'll know what you are getting yourself into and whether it is really what you want or not. Finding this out after the fact probably explains at least a portion of the number of contracts on the resale market...

 

[mulberrybush]

I can get "used" to the use year. These cleanliness and disrepair issues may be enough for me to exercise my 10day rights....I'm pretty OCD and reading that dvc rooms are dirty (so deal with it) bc they don't treat us as we'll as cash customers has me nauseous.

 

[ELMC]

DVC doesn't make sense for most people, and the good news is, there are a zillion other ways to enjoy a Disney vacation without belonging to DVC.

Can you list them?

 

[staceymay00]

I can get "used" to the use year. These cleanliness and disrepair issues may be enough for me to exercise my 10day rights....I'm pretty OCD and reading that dvc rooms are dirty (so deal with it) bc they don't treat us as we'll as cash customers has me nauseous.

I have personally not noticed a difference between the cleanliness of DVC and non-DVC rooms. We have stayed in both since buying DVC a few years ago, plus several non-DVC stays before then. I am not OCD about it, but I do expect a clean room in decent shape. I have always been satisfied with our accommodations at WDW, although every room/villa was not perfect. We recently spent a couple of nights at the CR Club Level, and that room was not perfectly clean, either. I do think that the DVC rooms may go longer between upgrades and refurbishments, but I don't mind that so much since my dues need to increase for that to change.

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[ELMC]

I have personally not noticed a difference between the cleanliness of DVC and non-DVC rooms. We have stayed in both since buying DVC a few years ago, plus several non-DVC stays before then. I am not OCD about it, but I do expect a clean room in decent shape. I have always been satisfied with our accommodations at WDW, although every room/villa was not perfect. We recently spent a couple of nights at the CR Club Level, and that room was not perfectly clean, either. I do think that the DVC rooms may go longer between upgrades and refurbishments, but I don't mind that so much since my dues need to increase for that to change.

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I have to say that I am currently staying in a 1 BR at BLT and it is nowhere near the quality of the rooms at any of the Marriott Vacation Club properties I have stayed at. Cracked tiles, loose fixtures, torn fabric, stained couch cushions, and a non functioning jacuzzi tub. All this in a room that's what, three years old? It's still a nice room and all, but it is showing its wear at an alarming rate. While not at the level where I would complain, as an owner I am not going to expose myself to more risk by purchasing any more than the 100 points I currently own.