Paula Sedley-Burke
Proud to believe in Rainbows and Unicorns...
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- Nov 20, 2008
Can we have a magic band so that we can put a road Id tag attached! I have a road id bracelet with a medical alert so that would be a cool option!
I like the idea of it. But the practical side of me says this thing is made of rubber, and it's hot and humid in Florida, which means this thing is going to stick to me and make me sweat. That I don't like.
By the sounds of things, having an AP will mean we have a Magic Band. If we stay on property, we get a Magic Band. If we purchase PhotoPass +, we get a Magic Band.... Here's hoping they can at least all be put on the SAME Magic Band, I don't want one, let alone three...
As I understand it, neither park entry nor FP return requires the powered chip. They both use the passive one.
I think that you are mistaken as to how the bands work. Your AP, resort information, and photopass aren't 'on' the band, at all. The only thing on your band will be a unique number identifying the band. All of your information will be stored in Disney's computer system. The system will simply use the band's unique identifier to reference your information.
I realise that. But I won't have purchase my AP at the same time I've reserved my resort. I won't purchase PP+ until 3-4 weeks prior to my arrival. If WDW are sending the bands out, will I receive one band from the resort with that "unique number" for my stay, will I have another "unique number" connected to my AP and will i have ANOTHER "unique number" connected to my PP+.
The AP is the only thing that will be used for the entire year, with PP+ and my resort stays changing. Will I be getting one "unique number" for all three and have them ALL connected? What happens when my PP+ changes during my second, third and fourth visit during the year? And if I stay at 3-4 different resorts during the year? Will I use one band? Will I be given a new one during each trip? Does this mean the information will be "updated" each time I book a trip? Am I the only one who can see how many things could go wrong with this....
Just another guess...when you purchase your first thing that comes with a band (say your AP), you are entitled to a band.
Anything else you purchase AFTER that initial first purchase will have them (Disney) look your name up in the system to see if you have any My Magic+ stuff attached to you. If you order PP+, they'll see on their computer system that you are already in the system for your AP and they will just attach the code+ for your PP+ to the band they already sent you for your AP. Same for your room.
You won't get 3 bands. they'll just update your account to add any new things you buy (park tix, PP+) after your initial MDE purchase.
Just a guess.
Just because its a "wrist band" doesn't mean you actually have to wear it on your wrist. It could just as easily be slipped through a belt loop, a purse strap or even in a pocket.
If I had to guess, you could likely get a replacement band at ANY gift shop. If your battery dies you probably just have to step into the nearest retail shop and have it replaced there instead of trekking back to GS.
Just a guess.
And remember, if you have a complaint about the band, just don't get one. Stick with the card.
As I understand it, neither park entry nor FP return requires the powered chip. They both use the passive one.
By the sounds of things, having an AP will mean we have a Magic Band. If we stay on property, we get a Magic Band. If we purchase PhotoPass +, we get a Magic Band.... Here's hoping they can at least all be put on the SAME Magic Band, I don't want one, let alone three...
This shows you how little I know about RFID technology So the passive power chip never wears out or requires a battery? Is the lifetime of the cards now being used unlimited?
That is reassuring, how do you know if your powered chip is not working I wonder?
I really have only one problem at this point then with this system and that is what they might do to FP. I DO NOT want to have to pre-assign my ride times in advance and, if my plans change, have no option of using FP at another park or time. When traveling with extended family or meeting FL friends for the day, I do not want to have to coordinate FP days and times in advance in order to enjoy a day together.
If FP+ became available at park opening or say 6 AM via my cell phone or laptop or central kiosks in the park, I would be all over this. How sweet would that be??
Having to compete for FPs at 6 AM 60 days out with everyone else from home through WDWs notoriously (IMHO) flawed IT system makes me shudder. And will you have to do it day-by-day? Or will they do a 60+10 day system like they do for ADRs where people checking in ahead of you get to book all of their days at once, limiting the available pool of FPs in the coming days? We shall see.
Will they be sent over to international visitors? Or will it be the same as with the documentation and we'll get them at check in?
I realise that. But I won't have purchase my AP at the same time I've reserved my resort. I won't purchase PP+ until 3-4 weeks prior to my arrival. If WDW are sending the bands out, will I receive one band from the resort with that "unique number" for my stay, will I have another "unique number" connected to my AP and will i have ANOTHER "unique number" connected to my PP+.
The AP is the only thing that will be used for the entire year, with PP+ and my resort stays changing. Will I be getting one "unique number" for all three and have them ALL connected? What happens when my PP+ changes during my second, third and fourth visit during the year? And if I stay at 3-4 different resorts during the year? Will I use one band? Will I be given a new one during each trip? Does this mean the information will be "updated" each time I book a trip? Am I the only one who can see how many things could go wrong with this....
Actually, I'm not convinced yet that Disney is shipping these directly to guests. I've talked to some of the people who posted articles after seeing the display and said in the articles that they would be shipped in those boxes - but they weren't given any info from Disney that said that was the case. To me, that display looks like the type of demo merchandise boxes that get sent to stores and then convert into a display. I could be wrong on that though. I could see them potentially sending MagicBands to people who purchase MYW tickets directly (and probably for an upcharge), but resort guests and AP holders would likely receive them on arrival much like the way it happens today.
Hmm...let's see if I can make this clearer.
You will have a unique profile, identified by some ID, within Disney's massive database. Let's call that "Disney_Princess83".
When you purchase an AP, that AP ID, which is unique, will be associated with your profile, so "APXXXXXX1" => "Disney_Princess83"
When you puchase a PP+ package, the same thing happens. So "PPXXXXXX1" => "Disney_Princess83".
Check in at the the Boardwalk Inn, and add room charge authorization? That's two more: "BWIRXXXXX1" => "Disney_Princess83" and "BWICXXXXX1" => "Disney_Princess83".
And let's say you've booked a few FP+ in advance online. So now "FPPXXXXX1" and "FPPXXXXX2" => "Disney_Princess83".
Now you get issued your MagicBand or RFID KTTW card (I'll just refer to these as KTTW for now). Up until now, you have all these things in you profile, but no way to actually use them. Each MB/KTTW already has a unique number baked in (several of them, in fact, for the different transmitters - forgot to mention in the PP that there are actually two passive transmitters at different frequencies plus the active one in the MB only - but for the purposes of illustration we'll just use 1).
This unique ID now becomes the key to your profile, and can be used to access all the linked features (called "entitlements"). So, "MBXXXXX1" can now unlock your profile. Let's see of I can illustrate it (formatted tables is a pain):
MBXXXXX1 => Disney_Princess83 => APXXXXXX1
=> PPXXXXXX1
=> BWIRXXXXX1
=> BWICXXXXX1
=> FPPXXXXX1
=> FPPXXXXX2
Need to replace your MagicBand? All they do is swap out the ID. So now "MBXXXXX2" becomes the key, and MBXXXXX1" is invalidated. In theory, you can actually have multiple such keys, all able to unlock the profile. We don't know if Disney will allow that. Also not sure how Disney will handle multiple ticket entitlements - like if you have an AP but book a package that has MYW tickets.
And keep in mind, this is a very simplified version of things. But it is in fact basically how tickets have worked for years. The ticket itself is just a key to the entitlements to enter the park. Replacing a ticket is just replacing the key - the entitlements are in the database.
Phew...hope that helps someone
Thank you for the explanation but what if I don't want them all linked? I can see so many possible problems for people who visit more than once a year. I know that no one really knows the answer yet. We usually make a room only reservation as we already have the AP. Sometimes we don't purchase the AP until we arrive. Assuming we've checked in already and we had the Magic Bands, the AP entitlements would need to be "added". We purchase PhotoPass a few weeks in advance, although usually my sister looks after PhotoPass, which means it would be on her entitlements and not mine, which could cause a problem if we aren't together since there will be longer be a card that can be just added on.... Too hard. Hopefully we can stick to using seperate cards.
It depends on what Disney wants to allow for the most part, but you shouldn't need to link a room to a profile, etc. That might, however, limit what you can do as far as MyMagic+ features go.
Cards are supposed to be options at all levels. However, MagicBands will be the defaults for resort guests, AP holders and PhotoPass+ according to what they have said.
I'll admit hat I know very little about the technology. I do, however, know that passive RFID hips don't use batteries. I also know that my passive RFID security card for work has been working just fine for several years.This shows you how little I know about RFID technology So the passive power chip never wears out or requires a battery? Is the lifetime of the cards now being used unlimited?
When the seagulls start ignoring you and Cinderella doesn't remember your name, I suppose.That is reassuring, how do you know if your powered chip is not working I wonder?
In that scenario, you would merely release your current FPs and schedule new ones.I really have only one problem at this point then with this system and that is what they might do to FP. I DO NOT want to have to pre-assign my ride times in advance and, if my plans change, have no option of using FP at another park or time.
In that scenario you would merely link your profiles so one prison can schedule everyone's FPs.When traveling with extended family or meeting FL friends for the day, I do not want to have to coordinate FP days and times in advance in order to enjoy a day together.
First, I can't imagine it being possible to link two bands to one profile. Second, I don't know why they would send you a band if your profile showed that they just sent you a band.I realise that. But I won't have purchase my AP at the same time I've reserved my resort. I won't purchase PP+ until 3-4 weeks prior to my arrival. If WDW are sending the bands out, will I receive one band from the resort with that "unique number" for my stay, will I have another "unique number" connected to my AP and will i have ANOTHER "unique number" connected to my PP+.
The AP is the only thing that will be used for the entire year, with PP+ and my resort stays changing. Will I be getting one "unique number" for all three and have them ALL connected? What happens when my PP+ changes during my second, third and fourth visit during the year? And if I stay at 3-4 different resorts during the year? Will I use one band? Will I be given a new one during each trip? Does this mean the information will be "updated" each time I book a trip? Am I the only one who can see how many things could go wrong with this....
When he seagulls start ignoring you and Cinderella doesn't remember your name, I suppose.