Cost of points through DVC

DavidRoss

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Nov 23, 1999
Hi folks,

A while ago someone posted a link to the current cost of the points through DVC at each of the resorts. We own at BWV, VB and OKW. I am looking to add on at one of those resorts. I haven't contacted my guide yet. Since we do like to take cruises and sometimes use points for those as well as some other trades, I would want to add on from DVC direct rather than a resale at this time.

Can someone point me in the right direction with a link or maybe a reply?

Thanks!
 


I am not sure the price of the other resorts you mentioned, but I do know that BWV is $115/point and the link above is normally correct.

However, I just watched the webcast today, to see what the offers are- I am always curious. BWV actually qualified for the offer today, which included 2-5 5 day park hopper passes (depending on how many points you bought- started with 2 free at 100 points). And about $10 off per point if you bought a minimum of 50 points. It was listed as $500 credit off of 50 points, $1000 credit off 100 points, $1500 credit off 160, and so on (going up by 60). I can confirm this information, as I actually chatted with a guide who sent me the price sheets.

If you plan to buy BWV direct, now would seem to be a good time! Good luck!
 


Why would you buy direct if resale saves you so much money. Who is ever going to use your points for consierege or adventure. Wouldnt you just sell your points if you wanted to use these products.
Why pay 115 a point when you can pay 50-65 a point.:confused3
 
Just to mention that it appears that the price of BWV will be going up to $130 per point in a few weeks. If you feel you MUST buy direct you should probably do it sooner rather than later.
 
Why would you buy direct if resale saves you so much money. Who is ever going to use your points for consierege or adventure. Wouldnt you just sell your points if you wanted to use these products.
Why pay 115 a point when you can pay 50-65 a point.:confused3

some people are willing to pay double to get exactly what they want...

i think they should be informed about resale but remember that if some people don't pay the higher direct prices, there would be no one to sell the cheaper resale contracts to value-minded people like us.
 
ozzie2131 said:
Why would you buy direct if resale saves you so much money. Who is ever going to use your points for consierege or adventure. Wouldnt you just sell your points if you wanted to use these products.
Why pay 115 a point when you can pay 50-65 a point.:confused3

I would tend to agree with this. Mostly because my family go mostly off peak, but I have a question about this wisdom. Isn't it true that Disney can restrict a resale member at anytime to their home resort? What is the feeling about whether or not Disney will do this in the future to increase value on their direct sales?
 
dzd said:
I would tend to agree with this. Mostly because my family go mostly off peak, but I have a question about this wisdom. Isn't it true that Disney can restrict a resale member at anytime to their home resort? What is the feeling about whether or not Disney will do this in the future to increase value on their direct sales?

If they did this they would have a mutiny on their hands. Also I don't think they want to. This would drop the value on all resorts and and you would have to think twice because you could never sell it. At least now if u want to sell it u can and will recoup some of your money back. They seem to control the resale through rofr.
 
Got this in my e-mail from a DVC reseller:

Effective March 20, 2013

Villas at Disney’s Grand Californian Hotel: $165 per point
Aulani, Disney Vacation Club Villas: $145pp
Disney’s Animal Kingdom Villas: $145pp
Disney’s Beach Club Villas: $130pp
Disney’s BoardWalk Villas: $130pp
Disney’s Old Key West Resort: $130pp
Disney’s Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa: $130pp
Villas at Disney’s Wilderness Lodge: $130pp
Disney’s Hilton Head Island Resort: $115pp
Disney’s Vero Beach Resort: $115pp
 
Isn't it true that Disney can restrict a resale member at anytime to their home resort? What is the feeling about whether or not Disney will do this in the future to increase value on their direct sales?

i don't think direct is a good idea but i also don't think this will happen. they might change the booking windows to make it tougher on resale trades but (even if they can, and i'm not sure that's true) it would also damage the value of direct purchases. keep in mind that if i can't trade out of OKW, it gets harder for direct purchasers to get into OKW if they want to trade out. too much of a lose-lose.
 
What do these new prices per point mean to the people who bu resale? I was planning on getting 100 more from resale at the end of the year, do you think they will use the ROFR the majority?

I am glad i bought my 150 resale points last year.
 
Why would you buy direct if resale saves you so much money.

People who don't know any better do it all the time.

And it's hardly unique to DVC. Look at the rest of the timeshare industry. In many cases, points sold direct for tens-of-thousands can be had for pennies on the resale market.

Isn't it true that Disney can restrict a resale member at anytime to their home resort? What is the feeling about whether or not Disney will do this in the future to increase value on their direct sales?

In general, it isn't possible. Each resort is its own "Condominium Association" and the Disney Vacation Club umbrella allows for trading between condo associations. As the system exists today, they could not selectively decide which points/owners/contracts have trading rights and which do not.

One change which MAY be possible would be to alter the 11/7 month booking windows to the detriment of resale buyers. The POS only guarantees a one month booking advantage at one's home resort. Theoretically it seems like they could leave resale owners able to book non-home resorts at the current 7 months while direct buyers could be bumped up to 8 or 9 or 10 months from arrival to book non-Home. Under that framework, all owners would still have the guaranteed 1 month advantage, but direct buyers could book non-Home locations much sooner.

Some have suggested even this would not be permissible (legal) and it could certainly be challenged.

But I don't see how DVC could limit only resale buyers to their Home resort. Such restrictions would have to apply to ALL owners--or at least all owners of a single property.
 
ozzie2131 said:
Why would you buy direct if resale saves you so much money. Who is ever going to use your points for consierege or adventure. Wouldnt you just sell your points if you wanted to use these products.
Why pay 115 a point when you can pay 50-65 a point.:confused3

Why do some people still buy the dining plan? To each his/her own
 
Thank you all for your thoughts on my question.

I'm sure this is off topic but ill ask it anyway. My family will mainly use our points at Disneyland. Since there is only one small villa group there, I understand it is hard to get with it not being your home. If it would be difficult to get into GCL perhaps waiting for space to open, or Disney to build a new DVC villa would be the way to go. It would seem that Disney would be exercising ROFR for any GCL resale to then resale it directly. Thoughts on this situation?
 
Thank you all for your thoughts on my question.

I'm sure this is off topic but ill ask it anyway. My family will mainly use our points at Disneyland. Since there is only one small villa group there, I understand it is hard to get with it not being your home. If it would be difficult to get into GCL perhaps waiting for space to open, or Disney to build a new DVC villa would be the way to go. It would seem that Disney would be exercising ROFR for any GCL resale to then resale it directly. Thoughts on this situation?

If you want to use your points at VGC, you should definitely buy there.

There have been some contracts at VGC ROFR'd lately, but some get through. (There's a thread on that that is WELL worth checking out.) Do you want a particular UY? If you get on the waiting list for retail points before the price increase, I believe they honor the price in place when you went on the list. Then you can keep looking for resale points in the meantime. It must be said, though, that the resale prices at VGC are going up, too -- there have been listings at $115 recently.

Also, one advantage of buying VGC direct is that you can use the points at the other Disneyland Resort hotels if VGC is booked up. You can't do that with resale points.
 

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