And these are the {Resort} Changes of our Lives ~In Memory of JungleCruiser <3

[babyberger]

Wookie - I just read about what happened with your DH the other day, how scary! I grew up in a small town that was literally 97% white but my parents made sure we were brought up that skin color means nothing! But I know ignorance exists and it is beyond sad maybe your DH needs to think about strategies if he were really placed in danger.

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[DznyCrzy11]

Hey Wookie I just read what happened as well. Yikes, that's awful and so scary but I'm glad nothing bad happened! Ironically, Monday night I watched a National Geographic documentary called "The Human Tree", basically every single person has DNA that goes back to Africa! It was so interesting!!

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is having a great day!

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[letthewookiewin]

Hello ladies!

Thanks to Wookie, Janet, Pas & Melissa for your extra summer Disney advice. I do appreciate it.

Your welcome, even though I don't have much experience with it.

So, here's the latest on the AP discussion front ...

Schools get out for summer break around the 1st of June. One of the scenarios we discussed to get in a 3rd trip on the APs would be to fly down right after school ends in the beginning of June, rent a car and perhaps see about renting a house off-site for a week (with a pool, of course). Hopefully somewhere relatively close to Disney. Hmmm. He seems quite keen on this idea rather than stay at a Value because he thinks it'll be too crowded at the resorts. Guess I'll have to start looking into rentals...

Are y'all planning on doing any of the SWW stuff?

Last night, when I was getting ready for bed, I noticed I couldn't see my toes very well (inspecting my nail polish ) -- lovely black spots in my vision. Then suddenly it dawns on me. Oy. Migraine RIGHT before bed, I guess it could've come at a worse time though, right? I was so out of it this morning that hubs decided to take Miss M to school for me. When she came to kiss me goodbye she started crying because she wanted to stay home with me -- she's never, EVER done that before. Poor daddy, he thinks he's chopped liver.

I hope your feeling better today. My kids are usually the same way with the DH. They hate it when he gets them ready for school. Although it very rarely happens. I mean Blue Moons happened more often. I think it's mainly because Daddy doesn't make them breakfast like Mommy does.

Wookie - I just read about what happened with your DH the other day, how scary! I grew up in a small town that was literally 97% white but my parents made sure we were brought up that skin color means nothing! But I know ignorance exists and it is beyond sad maybe your DH needs to think about strategies if he were really placed in danger.

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Hey Wookie I just read what happened as well. Yikes, that's awful and so scary but I'm glad nothing bad happened! Ironically, Monday night I watched a National Geographic documentary called "The Human Tree", basically every single person has DNA that goes back to Africa! It was so interesting!!

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is having a great day!

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Thanks y'all. Hopefully, it's the one and only time it happens.

 

[Grumpy Grandma]

Any advise???? Just thinking about booking a trip for Oct 2014 at the new moderate hotel at Universal. That hotel will get extra hours but not the front of the line pass. My question is during Oct Mon-Thurs do you really think we'd need the front of the line????

 

[babyberger]

Any advise???? Just thinking about booking a trip for Oct 2014 at the new moderate hotel at Universal. That hotel will get extra hours but not the front of the line pass. My question is during Oct Mon-Thurs do you really think we'd need the front of the line????

I would think as long as its not the Monday of Columbus Day weekend you should be okay without the express passes.

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[Missoutandabout]

GG: Does Universal run any October events like the F&W? On the face of it, it sounds like it would be fine barring any holidays or special events. I can't wait to try Universal. One of these years... my Potter-brainwashing of the kiddo is far from complete though.

Wookie: Oh, SWW?! Isn't that in May? Oh boy...

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I need to vent and I apologize in advance for this novella of complaints....


Eesh.

My parents live on the east coast. I haven't seen my mother since April 2012 and haven't seen my father since October 2011. He's recently developed a "dislike of flying" although he blames it on how expensive it is. We were supposed to have seen them at Disney, along with my brother who lives in FL, this past January but both my parents and my brother decided not to come down. (First my dad was going to have the lap band surgery and therefore didn't want my mother to come on her own -- the surgery which didn't actually happen until February. Then, my brother realized that he wouldn't have my parents to foot the bill for him and he decides not to drive the 3 hours down to Orlando to visit. Okay then. )


Since the beginning of the year, Miss M has asked if they would come out for her birthday in April. My mom obviously wants to come. My dad said he wanted to as well, and that they would drive. I was a bit shocked that he sounded like he really wanted to come and because we haven't seen them in a while so I was pleased that they were both going to be coming.


This afternoon, I had two missed calls from my parents so I call back and my dad answers -- those missed calls were both from him. This is where I usually say a mental "Uh-oh" because multiple calls from him only result in one thing -- complaining about my mom. The first bit of the conversation was pleasant enough; I even managed to get him off the subject of harking on about my mother buying a tea towel. (Yes, this is the level of things he would let ruin his day -- my mom buying a tea towel. ) I made a comment about how Miss M was going to be excited to see them in April. He then uses this as a segue and starts in on how no one has ever complained about his driving ... except my mother. And now, I can see it coming.


When I get into conversations like this with my dad, I really don't understand what he wants to hear from me. I told him to either act like adults and be pleasant to each other on the drive out, fly or don't come. Simple, right? He had an excuse why he couldn't do either of the first two options... so the only thing remaining is don't come. I tell him that I'll let Miss M know they won't come and he gets angry at me and hangs up the phone.

Eesh. All I can say is eeeeeesh. Those APs are sounding better and better by the moment.

And with that, I thank you for letting me get these mundane family-drama issues off my chest.

 

[letthewookiewin]

Wookie: Oh, SWW?! Isn't that in May? Oh boy...

This year it is weekends from May 17 - June 9.

I need to vent and I apologize in advance for this novella of complaints....


Eesh.

My parents live on the east coast. I haven't seen my mother since April 2012 and haven't seen my father since October 2011. He's recently developed a "dislike of flying" although he blames it on how expensive it is. We were supposed to have seen them at Disney, along with my brother who lives in FL, this past January but both my parents and my brother decided not to come down. (First my dad was going to have the lap band surgery and therefore didn't want my mother to come on her own -- the surgery which didn't actually happen until February. Then, my brother realized that he wouldn't have my parents to foot the bill for him and he decides not to drive the 3 hours down to Orlando to visit. Okay then. )


Since the beginning of the year, Miss M has asked if they would come out for her birthday in April. My mom obviously wants to come. My dad said he wanted to as well, and that they would drive. I was a bit shocked that he sounded like he really wanted to come and because we haven't seen them in a while so I was pleased that they were both going to be coming.


This afternoon, I had two missed calls from my parents so I call back and my dad answers -- those missed calls were both from him. This is where I usually say a mental "Uh-oh" because multiple calls from him only result in one thing -- complaining about my mom. The first bit of the conversation was pleasant enough; I even managed to get him off the subject of harking on about my mother buying a tea towel. (Yes, this is the level of things he would let ruin his day -- my mom buying a tea towel. ) I made a comment about how Miss M was going to be excited to see them in April. He then uses this as a segue and starts in on how no one has ever complained about his driving ... except my mother. And now, I can see it coming.


When I get into conversations like this with my dad, I really don't understand what he wants to hear from me. I told him to either act like adults and be pleasant to each other on the drive out, fly or don't come. Simple, right? He had an excuse why he couldn't do either of the first two options... so the only thing remaining is don't come. I tell him that I'll let Miss M know they won't come and he gets angry at me and hangs up the phone.

Eesh. All I can say is eeeeeesh. Those APs are sounding better and better by the moment.

And with that, I thank you for letting me get these mundane family-drama issues off my chest.

No worries, you've listened (well read) enough of my family dramas.



I am sorry. Hopefully, they put on their big-girl and boy pants long enough to make Miss M happy and come out for her birthday. What he wants, is for you to agree with him. Good to you for not falling into the trap.

 

[babyberger]

GG: Does Universal run any October events like the F&W? On the face of it, it sounds like it would be fine barring any holidays or special events. I can't wait to try Universal. One of these years... my Potter-brainwashing of the kiddo is far from complete though.

Wookie: Oh, SWW?! Isn't that in May? Oh boy...

~~-------------------------------~~

I need to vent and I apologize in advance for this novella of complaints....


Eesh.

My parents live on the east coast. I haven't seen my mother since April 2012 and haven't seen my father since October 2011. He's recently developed a "dislike of flying" although he blames it on how expensive it is. We were supposed to have seen them at Disney, along with my brother who lives in FL, this past January but both my parents and my brother decided not to come down. (First my dad was going to have the lap band surgery and therefore didn't want my mother to come on her own -- the surgery which didn't actually happen until February. Then, my brother realized that he wouldn't have my parents to foot the bill for him and he decides not to drive the 3 hours down to Orlando to visit. Okay then. )


Since the beginning of the year, Miss M has asked if they would come out for her birthday in April. My mom obviously wants to come. My dad said he wanted to as well, and that they would drive. I was a bit shocked that he sounded like he really wanted to come and because we haven't seen them in a while so I was pleased that they were both going to be coming.


This afternoon, I had two missed calls from my parents so I call back and my dad answers -- those missed calls were both from him. This is where I usually say a mental "Uh-oh" because multiple calls from him only result in one thing -- complaining about my mom. The first bit of the conversation was pleasant enough; I even managed to get him off the subject of harking on about my mother buying a tea towel. (Yes, this is the level of things he would let ruin his day -- my mom buying a tea towel. ) I made a comment about how Miss M was going to be excited to see them in April. He then uses this as a segue and starts in on how no one has ever complained about his driving ... except my mother. And now, I can see it coming.


When I get into conversations like this with my dad, I really don't understand what he wants to hear from me. I told him to either act like adults and be pleasant to each other on the drive out, fly or don't come. Simple, right? He had an excuse why he couldn't do either of the first two options... so the only thing remaining is don't come. I tell him that I'll let Miss M know they won't come and he gets angry at me and hangs up the phone.

Eesh. All I can say is eeeeeesh. Those APs are sounding better and better by the moment.

And with that, I thank you for letting me get these mundane family-drama issues off my chest.

First, Missyou are right....Linda you need to watch the Halloween Horror Nights, it is a huge draw and people usually come for the whole day for that. And it is MOST nights in October. I actually just saw an article about tourism being way UP in Orlando too You may want to reconsider the hotels with the express pass.

Second, HUGE HUGS to you Miss!!! I am so sorry your parents are doing this to you and Miss M It just is not right. Maybe you can talk to your mom and she can talk some sense into your dad

If it makes you feel any better my kids just got their Christmas cards and gifts from MIL (she refuses to acknowledge that they dont celebrate Christmas and only Hanukkah) in the mail YESTERDAY Last time I checked we are pretty far into February, she could have at least changed them to Valentine's Day presents

Hang in there! I'll post my drink latter so we can we start Happy Hour

Melissa

 

[Janet B]

Wookie, many thanks for your recipe!! I’m going to give it a go this weekend… just need to pick up the chorizo and that cheese.

Miss, big hugs to you! Sweetie you can vent all you like here! Like Wookie said, your Dad needs to grow up…it seems like it is more your Dad than Mom, right?? Time waits for no one, and they better rethink coming to see Miss M for her birthday (who will be crushed I’m sure if her g-rents bail out after they said they would.).

Hey, I’ve got it… Your Mom flies… your dad can drive or take the train….problem solved! would it work??

Melissa, so sorry about your MIL...that she can be so insensitive and disrespectful to you all is beyond me...big hugs to you as well.

Melissa, me thinks you better make that drink a STRONG one!!

 

[i_heart_the_mouse]

Miss - I went through so much of what you describe, only it was my mom complaining about my dad. I totally get it. I'm sorry that Miss M is being caught in the fray. Ironically, for my folks, it was't until they divorced after 33 years of marriage that they became compatible and enjoyed each other's company again.

babyberger - That is just so crappy of MIL. Yuck. Although I admit I had a mental image of a Christmas card with the words crossed off and Happy Valentine's Day written over it. Sorry for your kiddos too

To both of you and pas - Thanks for sharing your scary stories. I feel like these terrible things happen so much more then they did when I was growing up.

I'm feeling so down today. As it turns out, my oldest son is pretty good friends with one of the boys whose parents had the meth lab. Fortunately they didn't socialize outside of school, but this just reinforces my feelings of discomfort at letting my kids go to the homes of families that I don't know well.

I guess the whole school day was spent dealing with the children's questions about drugs, jail, foster care, etc. I cannot stop thinking about what these poor 5 little kids are and have been going through. I want to throttle their parents. Hopefully they will be in prison for a very long time.

 

[Mousemommy1]

Erica...what can I say??? Parents....

They can be so strange, I swear.

I love my mom to death. She is truly a great mom...but...she is one of the most high maintenance people on the earth.

She was coming up here about every 6 months for the longest time, but then those visits got farther apart...and I get it, my grandmother has health issues and my mom also takes care of m niece and nephew alot...she's busy, I get it...but in the past couple of years, we had been going down to see her (in MD) way more often than she came up here....obviously it costs a lot more for four of us to fly down than just one of her to fly up, but whatever. So, maybe you remember the hullabaloo when we got our cat...because she is allergic, and she was in disbelief that we would get a cat when she is allergic....

REALLY?!?!?! Because you hardly come up anyways, and so we are supposed to have a pet free house because you might spend 3-4 days out of the year at our house...um, noooo!

And, what gets me is that when we go down there, she will drag us from relatives house to relatives house even if they have pets....

Obviously I am harboring some resentment here...

 

[letthewookiewin]

What he wants, is for you to agree with him. Good to you for not falling into the trap.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Oh, and I only say that because my dad does the same thing to me. I am really close to my mom and told her about it. She said it's just because he wants someone to agree with him that he is right.

If it makes you feel any better my kids just got their Christmas cards and gifts from MIL (she refuses to acknowledge that they dont celebrate Christmas and only Hanukkah) in the mail YESTERDAY Last time I checked we are pretty far into February, she could have at least changed them to Valentine's Day presents

Hang in there! I'll post my drink latter so we can we start Happy Hour

Melissa

That is terrible. Almost sounds like she is doing it out of spite. If it were my grandkids, I would want to know everything I could about Hanukkah and ways I could make it special for them. I grew up Southern Baptist, and have always found other religions so interesting.

I had the same kind of grandparents though, so I know how it feels. My dad parent's forgot more of my birthdays than they remembered. Yet they would always have big family birthday parties for my dad's brother's kids. They even went as far as buying more Christmas gifts for them and letting them open them in front of me, and my siblings. They liked my brother and sister a little more than me. The only reasons for our treatment was they weren't happy my dad married my mom. They wanted him to marry the woman his younger brother ended up getting married (and later) divorced to. Then my only crime was to look like my mom's side of the family and not their side.

 

[babyberger]

OMG, I just looked at Stevens's card.....she even dated it 2/12/13.....why not lie and date it 12/25/12 and say she forgot or something.



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[Missoutandabout]

Thanks so much for listening, ladies.

This year it is weekends from May 17 - June 9.

No worries, you've listened (well read) enough of my family dramas.

I am sorry. Hopefully, they put on their big-girl and boy pants long enough to make Miss M happy and come out for her birthday. What he wants, is for you to agree with him. Good to you for not falling into the trap.

Oooooo, until the first week of June? As much as I'd LOVE to see Stormtroopers overrunning HS, the thought of those crowds makes me . It does make me though.

Yep, you are spot on. I called my mother right after the lovely phone call to my dad. That's exactly what I said to her... all he wants to hear is that someone agrees with him. Unfortunately it won't be me.

See... we just don't do big fancy parties for Miss M. No bouncy castles or loads of friends (because frankly, the idea of that makes my head hurt). I mean, we spoil her rotten with presents, normally take her out to the zoo and lunch and I get to flex my baking prowess with making her a nice cake -- but nothing spectacular. We usually keep it low-key and only invite my parents. So, I know that she'll be especially disappointed to find out they won't be coming if they (my dad) can't be grown ups about it.

Second, HUGE HUGS to you Miss!!! I am so sorry your parents are doing this to you and Miss M It just is not right. Maybe you can talk to your mom and she can talk some sense into your dad

If it makes you feel any better my kids just got their Christmas cards and gifts from MIL (she refuses to acknowledge that they dont celebrate Christmas and only Hanukkah) in the mail YESTERDAY Last time I checked we are pretty far into February, she could have at least changed them to Valentine's Day presents

Hang in there! I'll post my drink latter so we can we start Happy Hour

Melissa

Oh MY with your MIL. Seriously... who does that? Did she grow up not knowing anyone who celebrated Hanukkah or different holidays? Not that it should be an excuse, I just always wonder about folks who don't get that the world is thankfully inhabited by different people and not everyone lives the same way... nor celebrates the same holidays. (Not really in the same vein, but when we were living overseas, I had a helluva time explaining that Thanksgiving or July 4th wasn't celebrated over there. )

Oh yes, with that drink...

Miss, big hugs to you! Sweetie you can vent all you like here! Like Wookie said, your Dad needs to grow up…it seems like it is more your Dad than Mom, right?? Time waits for no one, and they better rethink coming to see Miss M for her birthday (who will be crushed I’m sure if her g-rents bail out after they said they would.).

Hey, I’ve got it… Your Mom flies… your dad can drive or take the train….problem solved! would it work??

Janet, my friend... that is a brilliant idea. (It'd probably wind up just my mom comes out if he keeps up his tantrum.)

Miss - I went through so much of what you describe, only it was my mom complaining about my dad. I totally get it. I'm sorry that Miss M is being caught in the fray. Ironically, for my folks, it was't until they divorced after 33 years of marriage that they became compatible and enjoyed each other's company again.

You know, with how my parents act toward each other, like belligerent children (more so from my dad though) ... I have wondered if it wouldn't be better for them to be apart.

I'm feeling so down today. As it turns out, my oldest son is pretty good friends with one of the boys whose parents had the meth lab. Fortunately they didn't socialize outside of school, but this just reinforces my feelings of discomfort at letting my kids go to the homes of families that I don't know well.

I guess the whole school day was spent dealing with the children's questions about drugs, jail, foster care, etc. I cannot stop thinking about what these poor 5 little kids are and have been going through. I wan't to throttle their parents. Hopefully they will be in prison for a very long time.

Those poor kids. I just hope someone in their lives... a relative or someone, can be a responsible advocate on their behalf. It's so sad.

Erica...what can I say??? Parents....

They can be so strange, I swear.

I love my mom to death. She is truly a great mom...but...she is one of the most high maintenance people on the earth.

She was coming up here about every 6 months for the longest time, but then those visits got farther apart...and I get it, my grandmother has health issues and my mom also takes care of m niece and nephew alot...she's busy, I get it...but in the past couple of years, we had been going down to see her (in MD) way more often than she came up here....obviously it costs a lot more for four of us to fly down than just one of her to fly up, but whatever. So, maybe you remember the hullabaloo when we got our cat...because she is allergic, and she was in disbelief that we would get a cat when she is allergic....

REALLY?!?!?! Because you hardly come up anyways, and so we are supposed to have a pet free house because you might spend 3-4 days out of the year at our house...um, noooo!

And, what gets me is that when we go down there, she will drag us from relatives house to relatives house even if they have pets....

Obviously I am harboring some resentment here...

Oh, you so made me Well, of course, it only makes sense that you should not get an animal based on infrequently-visiting family member's allergies! How silly of you.

...
I had the same kind of grandparents though, so I know how it feels. My dad parent's forgot more of my birthdays than they remembered. Yet they would always have big family birthday parties for my dad's brother's kids. They even went as far as buying more Christmas gifts for them and letting them open them in front of me, and my siblings. They liked my brother and sister a little more than me. The only reasons for our treatment was they weren't happy my dad married my mom. They wanted him to marry the woman his younger brother ended up getting married (and later) divorced to. Then my only crime was to look like my mom's side of the family and not their side.

That is just plain awful.

 

[letthewookiewin]

Erica...what can I say??? Parents....

They can be so strange, I swear.

I love my mom to death. She is truly a great mom...but...she is one of the most high maintenance people on the earth.

She was coming up here about every 6 months for the longest time, but then those visits got farther apart...and I get it, my grandmother has health issues and my mom also takes care of m niece and nephew alot...she's busy, I get it...but in the past couple of years, we had been going down to see her (in MD) way more often than she came up here....obviously it costs a lot more for four of us to fly down than just one of her to fly up, but whatever. So, maybe you remember the hullabaloo when we got our cat...because she is allergic, and she was in disbelief that we would get a cat when she is allergic....

REALLY?!?!?! Because you hardly come up anyways, and so we are supposed to have a pet free house because you might spend 3-4 days out of the year at our house...um, noooo!

And, what gets me is that when we go down there, she will drag us from relatives house to relatives house even if they have pets....

Obviously I am harboring some resentment here...

OMG, I just looked at Stevens's card.....she even dated it 2/12/13.....why not lie and date it 12/25/12 and say she forgot or something.



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Wouldn't it be nice if we could just stick difficult parents (and grandparents) on an island? Kind of like The Island of Misfit Toys. It'll be The Island of PITA Parents & Grandparents.

 

[Missoutandabout]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just stick difficult parents (and grandparents) on an island? Kind of like The Island of Misfit Toys. It'll be The Island of PITA Parents & Grandparents.

Can I buy 2 first class tickets? One for my dad and one for my MIL?

 

[letthewookiewin]

Thanks so much for listening, ladies.

Anytime

Oooooo, until the first week of June? As much as I'd LOVE to see Stormtroopers overrunning HS, the thought of those crowds makes me . It does make me though.

We went to DHS the last Friday of SWW and crowds were way smaller than I feared. Heck, the DH and oldest DS has less than a 10 minutes wait for Star Tours. I think I had a longer wait to get this picture made.

Yep, you are spot on. I called my mother right after the lovely phone call to my dad. That's exactly what I said to her... all he wants to hear is that someone agrees with him. Unfortunately it won't be me.

See... we just don't do big fancy parties for Miss M. No bouncy castles or loads of friends (because frankly, the idea of that makes my head hurt). I mean, we spoil her rotten with presents, normally take her out to the zoo and lunch and I get to flex my baking prowess with making her a nice cake -- but nothing spectacular. We usually keep it low-key and only invite my parents. So, I know that she'll be especially disappointed to find out they won't be coming if they (my dad) can't be grown ups about it.

We don't do the big parties for our kids either. Just a low key dinner with the inlaws and a weekend lunch with my family. Then we'll take them out to dinner and to a movie on the weekend before or after their birthday.

That is just plain awful.

Yeah, it was. When she passed I was late to her funeral, like walked in late during it, because "I have a preemie less than two months old". Nope, was totally on purpose. I was so proud of myself when the pastor went on and on about what an amazing mother/grandmother she was. The few giggles that got away from me, I was able to make sound like crying.

Oh, I wish y'all could smell my kitchen. It smells amazing!! I have a big pot of Chicken Tortilla soup on the stove top.

 

[letthewookiewin]

Can I buy 2 first class tickets? One for my dad and one for my MIL?

first class We'll stick 'em in a cargo plane.

 

[Rorey]

Hello all! I feel like i need to join this thread desperately, because every time I join any of resort specific thread I start to change my mind on said resort! I'm driving my husband crazy at the moment.

The specs:

We want to go to WDW Dec. 5thto the 14th. I can not for the life of me figure out where to stay!

We want PH for 10 days as we're planning to land in Orlando by noon the day of arrival and leave around 6pm the last day.

First option was POR, which I thought would be great, but then came the "possible" news of no more FD or the reduced QS FD only, which we are TS people (DH and I). So that bumped our trip past the $$ limit I wanted.

Second option was ok we'll stay at Pop and pay for dining OOP (since it's rumored Value won't get any FD whatsoever.

Then I see our dates are blocked for the BB most likely due to Pop Warner that week.

So what do I do today? Go look on what it would cost to rent DVC points and it's actually only $300 more to rent DVC and buy PH from UT then it is for rack rate at Pop with PH.

But I can't pull the trigger, the thought of being locked in scared the be-geezers out of me for some reason. Even though I would LOVE to stay at WL and everything plan-wise would fit perfectly staying at WL.

I think part of it is I've never rented DVC points before, but am I a total nutcase?

Does all of the above qualify me as a resort changer? lol

 

[Grumpy Grandma]

First, Missyou are right....Linda you need to watch the Halloween Horror Nights, it is a huge draw and people usually come for the whole day for that. And it is MOST nights in October. I actually just saw an article about tourism being way UP in Orlando too You may want to reconsider the hotels with the express pass.

Second, HUGE HUGS to you Miss!!! I am so sorry your parents are doing this to you and Miss M It just is not right. Maybe you can talk to your mom and she can talk some sense into your dad

If it makes you feel any better my kids just got their Christmas cards and gifts from MIL (she refuses to acknowledge that they dont celebrate Christmas and only Hanukkah) in the mail YESTERDAY Last time I checked we are pretty far into February, she could have at least changed them to Valentine's Day presents

Hang in there! I'll post my drink latter so we can we start Happy Hour

Melissa

I thought the Halloween Nights were only on the weekend .... guess I better check that out. Thanks I appreciate the advise.