I doubt we can. There were some other issues beyond the race personality wise..both in what she saw of me and what I saw of her. I do miss her terribly. In most ways she is an incredibly supportive, fun and generous person.
I know she won't ever admit to being under prepared. When we discussed it she felt it was very wrong of me to question or imply. At this point I am not certain of the time she had calculated in her mind as a finish time... but I want to say it was 4 hours total. If she had taken that time she probably would have had a better time and thus the amount of preparation she committed to would have been sufficient. (again if she didn't get swept off the course)
I am planning to run the ToT next year and if offered again the next, I will be doing that as well. 2013 will be with some disfriends. They are training hard to be able to do it, but they are aware of how I feel. I am more than happy to cheer them on at the finish (if I get there before them) or run along side them as long as we are somewhat matched. I think even if one of them can maintain a 13 minute mile for 10 miles...then I could run with them. I think that is why I had hopes that it would work with B and I. She and I both ran 10ks to get times to submit. Mine was a chipped time but I was running with an injured ankle. (so I was running a bit slower than my normal) However her time was almost to the second the exact time I had. Granted hers was not a chipped time. Turns out, Disney will accept any "official" race time. I have even heard of races where people were required to right down their own finish time to hand into the race officials who then "registered" that time. So it does prove to be a bit suspect to me.
I feel bad for both of us too. In the end, while I had a really good time... I guess she really didn't. I feel bad for me because I would have liked to challenge myself a bit... but I feel worse for B since she was pushed beyond where she should have been. The fact is, I wouldn't have liked to be swept..and that is ok, I suppose. But she didn't care and gladly would have been swept with me if my ankle gave (In july I had an injury and I could barely walk on it) Obviously, this makes this race more about fun to her then... and that is great. I think we needed to be on the same page with it though. I trained seriously because I didn't want to make her be swept because of me. If I had known that she really wouldn't have held it against me and it was all for fun, maybe I wouldn't have pushed myself so with the training. Then again... my personality is to give 110% to anything I do.
Agreed. I think she was completely entitled to want to experience the race the way she wanted to. Of course, so was I. Communication was an issue...and also a contributing factor in why we don't speak. I can't stress enough how great she is over all... but one area I feel she could grown in is her ability to listen when she doesn't want to hear what you are saying. It isn't speculation that this is the case as she flat out said to Kira and Amanda that since she didn't care about the diaper dash, she did not want to hear about it. So if it wasn't something she was interested in hearing, she didn't. I like to think I can communicate, but obviously I failed. I know I told her of my progress and I know I encouraged her to try and match it. As far as me leaving her, she would not have had that. She tried to keep up the best she could.
The fact that she wanted me to stay with her on the next run and even said that many people say it is more fun to go at the slower persons pace was another point of contention. I don't mind if we were slightly mismatched. However I think we were very mismatched. Doing nearly a 17 minute mile and feeling very ill at the end is where I would have been if I had done a 10 minute mile. 7 minutes per mile is quite a big difference. Now I would probably feel ill if I did 10 miles with a 9 minute mile pace and knowing that this was probably going to be where I was headed for the phm, and not trusting that she was going to put in more training, that is why I suggested that we meet up at the end and run our own races. This was just another nail in that coffin of ours....
It was obnoxious of me... but I was seriously full of energy!
I was sure I had commented here last night, well, obviously I didn't.
Congratulations on finishing your race! What a great feeling that must be. Sorry you had to look after your friend while running. It's a shame if someone has a wrong impression of their effort at something.
You do NOT look like you had just run a race in your friend's photo! And Zoe's photo is just too cute!
Congrats on finishing the race and Zoe is just to cute, congrats to her on her race. She looks like she had a great time. SOrry to hear that you two aren't friends anymore. It almost sounds like she didn't get enought water into her,coupled with being in the heat and humidy, ya not a good thing if your not used to southern living.
I'm glad to hear that you had such a good experience (personally) with the race! It's too bad that you and your friend were on such different pages though - it sounds like (not having any racing experience here!) you were just on very different levels of racing ability. It does sound like it was an awesome experience (especially the Diaper Dash - how cute!) though!
I'm In for your TR.
Well it sounds like for the race she wanted to run, maybe she wasn't under prepared?
I'm glad that it didn't scare you away from trying to run with other friends
I'd have had a hard time with the Diaper Dash comment too. It was adorable!
Slowing down a little is one thing, to hang with a friend but that is really 2 different races. Maybe that is fun for some but I'd think more frustrating for most.
Why is it obnoxious to celebrate an accomplishment like that? You had fun and it showed. That is how it should be!
I wonder, it is possible she did put on the same amount of time. You'll never know. But if she isn't a type A, improving her own times may simply not have been the motivator for her that maybe it was for you? I see this with our kids, training equally but one improving more at a quicker pace be it running, hiking, swimming whatever. Part natural ability I think but part internal passion and push. If you are motivated to beat yourself, you will but if your goal is different you might put in that same amount of time but never really push and yet still feel you are doing what you should be doing. Is the slower kid working as hard as the faster? To me, the mom, often not but boy he sure thinks he is and I have to respect that. Seriously I could see your exact scenario if my 2 boys tried to train and run together. Who all are you running with for the phm?
Who all are you running with for the phm?
Congrats on the race! I'm not a runner, but I'd like to be one day!
Oh Ann...where do I begin with this whole race thing...you already know a lot of my thoughts...
1. I hope that I can jump up and down after the race...and really celebrate the accomplishment. I just wish that you could have enjoyed some of the party!
2. As for the bus scene, well she is a grown woman and frankly you are not her mom...she should of been able to take care of herself. You were way more of a friend than I would have been...I would have been doing the touring plan pout while she was losing her tummy. I would have gone along on the bus, but you can guess my attitude would been much different then yours!
3. Not sprint to the finish line, REALLY? Okay, I am probably going to be crawling by this point but you can bet my crawl is going to be a fast crawl.
4. The medal is important to me...I need that little reminder that I did something, I accomplished something. I envy you for being intrinscally motivated. I plan to show that puppy off to anyone who will look at it!
AND BTW...I DONT WANT TO RUN WITH YOU EITHER! You go run your race, collect all our bags from the bag check area...have a nice drink, and wait for me! Then it is party all night...stay up until our flights home...and die on the plane away from each other!
By the way...I love the picture of Zoe and her medal. She wears it well! Such a dang cutie!
OMG! The picture of Zoe with her medal is too cute! She is cute as a button!
And how adorable that your older girls wanted to watch the diaper dash! How cute!
As far as the race: I am very sorry that you had to lose a friend over something so silly. It is obvious that she did not prepare in the same way you did. However, if she was experiencing heatstroke or heat exhaustion maybe it would've been best if SHE left the race and let you continue. It seems like that may have been the reason she was so ill. It shouldn't have been up to you to diagnose and treat her, a medic should've been called in way before the finish line.
We saw so many people 'falling' all over the park that night. The medics were everywhere (on bikes!).
DH and I trained for 12min miles and with the heat we ended up at 13min miles. I was HAPPY with that. And while I would've been happy to finish at all, to finish with a 17min pace, with no real known injury, would've been a bummer. Sorry you had to experience that.
Good luck in your future races. Dh and I will not be doing ToT again. We aren't planning on going at that time this year and BTW, did you see the price?? Ugh!
That's me in the middle!!
Woohoo! It was great meeting you both...but what is this that I read...you aren't talking to B anymore? but aren't you both running the PHM soon? Sorry to hear that...I am sure you both will have a great run and a fantastic time at WDW regardless. I am so Jealous of your upcoming trip! Be sure to post some pictures on Facebook!! The picture of Zoe is priceless. Great job Zoe!
I am still amazed that you just started running and are now officially a "runner". I tried to start running again, but then my knee hurt, and the orthopedist said I can't just go from being a non-runner to a runner. "But other people have done it!!" I said...but I guess I am not other people, meaning I am not you.
Can't wait to read more...especially the day of our dismeet at the castle before we had to leave. [/COLOR][/FONT]
momabaarjo said:Oh Ann...where do I begin with this whole race thing...you already know a lot of my thoughts..
AND BTW...I DONT WANT TO RUN WITH YOU EITHER! You go run your race, collect all our bags from the bag check area...have a nice drink, and wait for me! Then it is party all night...stay up until our flights home...and die on the plane away from each other!
swwake said:I am guessing you were probably more tired than you think - which is why you may not remember all of that day.
I am confused about the watcher in the gift shop thing. Maybe I missed something?
I got all caught up yesterday, then again this morning. Still enjoying the report!
MEK said:Your breakfast at Kouzzina looks so YUMMY!!!!!!!!! I love, love, love feta cheese and spinach so that is right up my alley.
Beautiful pictures of the Boardwalk.
Yeah for Zoe getting picked for Birds of Flight. That is a really cool show!
lilpixiebabe101 said:Oh man the watcher in the gift shop.