Thanks Skier Pete, that gives me a little more to go on.
I just realized I did not do Buzz lightyear, and after searching for a while, I have yet to come up with any number at all. I expect this is a high capacity easy loading ride, but no numbers. Still searching.
However, I came across an interesting site that I have never visited before, and it gave a breakdown of Choice #1 and Choice #2 for the MK for the Dec 15th FP+ test. I am not sure if I can list the site on here, but I will cut and paste that little section of the podcast site.
Group 1
•Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
•Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
•Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater
•Enchanted Tales with Belle
•Main Street Electrical Parade
•Mickey Mouse at Town Square Theater
•Peter Pan’s Flight
•Space Mountain
•Splash Mountain
•Wishes Nighttime Spectacular
Group 2 (Choose 2):
•Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
•Dumbo the Flying Elephant
•Haunted Mansion
•Jungle Cruise
•Mickey’s PhilharMagic
•Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor
•The Barnstormer
•The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
•The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
•Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid
All three mountains are listed under one catagory (darn). And, as they noted and I agree - its weird that POtc is not in there, or small world. However, these lists and breakdowns look a lot more comprehensive then the summer test breakdown. Notice that is says, choose 2 from group 2? hmmm
I keep getting sucked into these different disneyfan or info sites, and waste a lot of time. Its been an education though, I will say that.
I am going to revise my previous post to include this new info, and add every OHRC that I can find (I only try and use cm chatter for this, but obviously this wont work for them all). And the parades and fireworks are a big unknown too. I will try and fill in as many blanks as possible though. It may take a couple of days.
With just basic calculations that I have so far though, I dont think the 3fp+ rule is going to have any issue at the MK, even at maximum capacity, as there are so many attractions and events, and the hours are so long. It will be another story at Epcot and AK though. Epcot for its limited 'attractions', and AK for short hours, and only 1 parade, and few attractions.
Edited to add: Well, crap, it looks like these calculations have already been done, and by someone who can do math. Here is a cut and paste of a certain section of wdw fan boys podcast website (hope listing the words is ok with the mods, but with this info, you really have to give them credit. After briefly reading it, I am not sure if its them, or JIm hill that came out with these calculations (I always thought Jim was a bit of a wingnut, but maybe I am wrong!) Here is the cut and paste of the pertinent info
he amount of Fastpasses distributed per every 5 minute interval is not public information, but this number is estimated at 5% of an attraction’s hourly capacity. This means that starting 40 minutes after park opening, 60% of an attraction’s hourly capacity is distributed as Fastpasses.
•Depending on the park, attendance, and the results of the test in May it is speculated that each guest will receive access to 2-4 Fastpass+ attractions per day
•Attendance at the Magic Kingdom in 2010 was 16,972,000 or an average of 46,499 guests per day
•The estimated hourly capacity of the 8 current Fastpass attractions (Jungle Cruise, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Peter Pan’s Flight, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin, Space Mountain, Town Square Theater) at the Magic Kingdom is 9550 per hour
•An average attendance day at the Magic Kingdom will see 13 hours of operation: 9:00 AM – 10:00 PM
•A 13 hour day will have 148 Fastpass Intervals of 5 minutes each (13 hours x 12 five minute intervals per hour less 8 intervals at the start of the day)
•With every attraction operating, the estimated maximum Fastpass distribution during a 13 hour day at the Magic Kingdom is 70,670.
•This means that up to 56.92% of total rides on the 8 Current Fastpass attractions can be done through the Fastpass system. Assuming that the 5% number is correct, this percentage is accurate regardless of whether or not the attraction capacity numbers are correct. If the number changes to 4% then the percentage changes to 45.54%, and at 6% the percentage changes to 68.31%
•The addition of the other attractions and premium entertainment viewing can potentially bring the daily Fastpass+ availability to 237,450 per day. This would include all of the Fantasyland expansion being open as well as premium viewing for a daytime parade, a nighttime parade and a fireworks show.
•With 46,499 guests in the park, and each guest entitled to 4 Fastpass+ attractions, 185,995 of the 237,450 available Fastpasses can be distributed via Fastpass+.
•This would mean that 78.3% of Fastpasses could potentially be booked prior to guests entering the park. If each guest can book 3 Fastpass+ attractions the percentage drops to 58.73% and if each guest can reserve 2 attractions the percentage drops to 39.15%.
•The corresponding numbers are significantly less favorable at the Animal Kingdom but that is subject to change with the addition of World of Avatar. The numbers are comparable at Epcot, and slightly more favorable at Hollywood Studios
Barry, this looks like some pretty solid figuring, even taking into account the 5 minute staggering and the 40 minute delay (which I totally forgot about).
I just realized I did not do Buzz lightyear, and after searching for a while, I have yet to come up with any number at all. I expect this is a high capacity easy loading ride, but no numbers. Still searching.
However, I came across an interesting site that I have never visited before, and it gave a breakdown of Choice #1 and Choice #2 for the MK for the Dec 15th FP+ test. I am not sure if I can list the site on here, but I will cut and paste that little section of the podcast site.
Group 1
•Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
•Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
•Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater
•Enchanted Tales with Belle
•Main Street Electrical Parade
•Mickey Mouse at Town Square Theater
•Peter Pan’s Flight
•Space Mountain
•Splash Mountain
•Wishes Nighttime Spectacular
Group 2 (Choose 2):
•Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
•Dumbo the Flying Elephant
•Haunted Mansion
•Jungle Cruise
•Mickey’s PhilharMagic
•Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor
•The Barnstormer
•The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
•The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
•Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid
All three mountains are listed under one catagory (darn). And, as they noted and I agree - its weird that POtc is not in there, or small world. However, these lists and breakdowns look a lot more comprehensive then the summer test breakdown. Notice that is says, choose 2 from group 2? hmmm
I keep getting sucked into these different disneyfan or info sites, and waste a lot of time. Its been an education though, I will say that.
I am going to revise my previous post to include this new info, and add every OHRC that I can find (I only try and use cm chatter for this, but obviously this wont work for them all). And the parades and fireworks are a big unknown too. I will try and fill in as many blanks as possible though. It may take a couple of days.
With just basic calculations that I have so far though, I dont think the 3fp+ rule is going to have any issue at the MK, even at maximum capacity, as there are so many attractions and events, and the hours are so long. It will be another story at Epcot and AK though. Epcot for its limited 'attractions', and AK for short hours, and only 1 parade, and few attractions.
Edited to add: Well, crap, it looks like these calculations have already been done, and by someone who can do math. Here is a cut and paste of a certain section of wdw fan boys podcast website (hope listing the words is ok with the mods, but with this info, you really have to give them credit. After briefly reading it, I am not sure if its them, or JIm hill that came out with these calculations (I always thought Jim was a bit of a wingnut, but maybe I am wrong!) Here is the cut and paste of the pertinent info
he amount of Fastpasses distributed per every 5 minute interval is not public information, but this number is estimated at 5% of an attraction’s hourly capacity. This means that starting 40 minutes after park opening, 60% of an attraction’s hourly capacity is distributed as Fastpasses.
•Depending on the park, attendance, and the results of the test in May it is speculated that each guest will receive access to 2-4 Fastpass+ attractions per day
•Attendance at the Magic Kingdom in 2010 was 16,972,000 or an average of 46,499 guests per day
•The estimated hourly capacity of the 8 current Fastpass attractions (Jungle Cruise, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Peter Pan’s Flight, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin, Space Mountain, Town Square Theater) at the Magic Kingdom is 9550 per hour
•An average attendance day at the Magic Kingdom will see 13 hours of operation: 9:00 AM – 10:00 PM
•A 13 hour day will have 148 Fastpass Intervals of 5 minutes each (13 hours x 12 five minute intervals per hour less 8 intervals at the start of the day)
•With every attraction operating, the estimated maximum Fastpass distribution during a 13 hour day at the Magic Kingdom is 70,670.
•This means that up to 56.92% of total rides on the 8 Current Fastpass attractions can be done through the Fastpass system. Assuming that the 5% number is correct, this percentage is accurate regardless of whether or not the attraction capacity numbers are correct. If the number changes to 4% then the percentage changes to 45.54%, and at 6% the percentage changes to 68.31%
•The addition of the other attractions and premium entertainment viewing can potentially bring the daily Fastpass+ availability to 237,450 per day. This would include all of the Fantasyland expansion being open as well as premium viewing for a daytime parade, a nighttime parade and a fireworks show.
•With 46,499 guests in the park, and each guest entitled to 4 Fastpass+ attractions, 185,995 of the 237,450 available Fastpasses can be distributed via Fastpass+.
•This would mean that 78.3% of Fastpasses could potentially be booked prior to guests entering the park. If each guest can book 3 Fastpass+ attractions the percentage drops to 58.73% and if each guest can reserve 2 attractions the percentage drops to 39.15%.
•The corresponding numbers are significantly less favorable at the Animal Kingdom but that is subject to change with the addition of World of Avatar. The numbers are comparable at Epcot, and slightly more favorable at Hollywood Studios
Barry, this looks like some pretty solid figuring, even taking into account the 5 minute staggering and the 40 minute delay (which I totally forgot about).