Jodi Arias Murder Trial

[usnuzuloose]

Thx, Mar, for clarifying that. So stabbings, then slicing his throat and final blow was shooting him.

Oh that sounds exactly like a scorned JA for sure.

I read somewhere online and not sure if it is true but that the whole killing took 106 seconds. I wonder if the jury will hear that.

I wonder if JM will slam her when he gets to the police interview where JA states, "If I killed Travis, I would BEG for the DP".

Oh he may do that. If I was on the jury I would be asking myself, if you are really battered why do you keep driving all that way to be battered more? I read the 106 On the Radar. Problem with people who do things and are never seen never won't get caught. You can file police reports , it won't do any good because you did not see them do it. A friend of mine were walking away from her home, and the lady next door was always fighting with them. Well we heard a loud hissing and turned around and saw her tire flat and the lady was going back in the house and had a knife, she called the police and they said if we didn't see her do it they can't touch her. It was a sad thing.

Jaun has to be careful with questioning, if he goes to far he may turn the jury toward her.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I was all excited on my way home last night thinking I have today off so I would be able to watch.... Then remember no trial until monday

She's crazy. absolutely nuts. I think it was pre-meditated. She intended to kill him because he wasn't doing what SHE wanted him to do.

I am sorry.

 

[PebblesMK]

No, she didn't shoot him first...that was last. I think as part of her defense (per the TV trial commentators) is going to be that if she intended to go there and kill him, she would have just shot him as soon as she saw him. The shot was lethal, and he was definitely alive during the stabbings. There was a shell casing ON TOP of a whole bunch of blood.

But I think she went there to either try to get him back and have him take her to Mexico with him, and when he wouldn't in the end, killed him (and intended to if that was the result) or she went there intending to have one last fling (like a serial killer who keeps a souvenir) and then kill him. I believe it was the latter...as in "You want sex? I'll give you sex. And then I'm going to kill you." I definitely think it was premeditated.

I may be incorrect in this statement, but I'm pretty sure that she shot Travis last and if so, that proves it was no self defense because by that time, he was already dead. Then again, I remember the autopsy report stating that the brain matter had started decomposing so they weren't entirely sure of the trail.

Either way it's put, self defense doesn't seem plausible. There is a knife and there is a gun...a gun would be much easier to protect yourself with because you don't have to get in close proximity and the pain would drop a person long enough to run away.

Did JA have defensive wounds on her hands? Travis had his hands split open and I'd assume that was from trying to grab the knife away. As much as this trial intrigues me, I can't help but look at Jodi and imagine how much glee she must have got from killing Travis and wondering if she was methodical in what she did. Like stab stab stab, "oh you're in pain but you're not dead yet....guess what, I'm slitting your throat too.", :::insert crazy laugh:::. It breaks my heart to think of what he went through and worse, what his family is going through seeing this. I certainly hope justice is served because she's a terrifying person and I don't believe for a second that she thinks what she did was wrong.

 

[momrek06]

I may be incorrect in this statement, but I'm pretty sure that she shot Travis last and if so, that proves it was no self defense because by that time, he was already dead. Then again, I remember the autopsy report stating that the brain matter had started decomposing so they weren't entirely sure of the trail.

Either way it's put, self defense doesn't seem plausible. There is a knife and there is a gun...a gun would be much easier to protect yourself with because you don't have to get in close proximity and the pain would drop a person long enough to run away.

Did JA have defensive wounds on her hands? Travis had his hands split open and I'd assume that was from trying to grab the knife away. As much as this trial intrigues me, I can't help but look at Jodi and imagine how much glee she must have got from killing Travis and wondering if she was methodical in what she did. Like stab stab stab, "oh you're in pain but you're not dead yet....guess what, I'm slitting your throat too.", :::insert crazy laugh:::. It breaks my heart to think of what he went through and worse, what his family is going through seeing this. I certainly hope justice is served because she's a terrifying person and I don't believe for a second that she thinks what she did was wrong.

I think I remember her 'new' BF, Ryan stating that he asked her about her hands as he noted two small cuts on her hand. She LIED (of course) and said she cut them on a glass.

 

[Nik's Mom]

No, she didn't shoot him first...that was last. I think as part of her defense (per the TV trial commentators) is going to be that if she intended to go there and kill him, she would have just shot him as soon as she saw him. The shot was lethal, and he was definitely alive during the stabbings. There was a shell casing ON TOP of a whole bunch of blood.

But I think she went there to either try to get him back and have him take her to Mexico with him, and when he wouldn't in the end, killed him (and intended to if that was the result) or she went there intending to have one last fling (like a serial killer who keeps a souvenir) and then kill him. I believe it was the latter...as in "You want sex? I'll give you sex. And then I'm going to kill you." I definitely think it was premeditated.

I think this is what happened too. She is one messed up, crazy woman. That is for sure.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I think I remember her 'new' BF, Ryan stating that he asked her about her hands as he noted two small cuts on her hand. She LIED (of course) and said she cut them on a glass.

At the non-existent restaurant she didn't work at. At least Casey Anthony used real businesses.

 

[usnuzuloose]

At the non-existent restaurant she didn't work at. At least Casey Anthony used real businesses.

Even had the nerve to walk them through the building.

 

[PebblesMK]

At the non-existent restaurant she didn't work at. At least Casey Anthony used real businesses.

Where did she claim to work? I only heard that she worked at California Pizza. I started watching the trial in depth the other day but have tons to catch up on so feel a bit lost with some of the stuff.

 

[BearcatsFan]

Where did she claim to work? I only heard that she worked at California Pizza. I started watching the trial in depth the other day but have tons to catch up on so feel a bit lost with some of the stuff.

I'm thinking she said Cheeseburger in Paradise, but when it was checked out, there wasn't one anywhere around. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I'm thinking she said Cheeseburger in Paradise, but when it was checked out, there wasn't one anywhere around. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

I remember her saying California Pizza, not sure of the other one. I believe she talked about those small cuts with Det Flores in the interview tapes.

 

[Uncle Remus]

If anyone knows or runs across any information as to how long after she's found guilty the penalty phase would start, would you post it here? Maybe that's why they've told this jury this trial could last til April.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Where did she claim to work? I only heard that she worked at California Pizza. I started watching the trial in depth the other day but have tons to catch up on so feel a bit lost with some of the stuff.

Margaritaville.

If anyone knows or runs across any information as to how long after she's found guilty the penalty phase would start, would you post it here? Maybe that's why they've told this jury this trial could last til April.

Does the jury decide that? Always? I was wondering about that. And do they know the death penalty is on the line? Makes me wonder if some jurors/juries don't want to convict on a charge that carries the death penalty, and would instead go for a lesser charge to take it off the table. We don't know (I don't think...??) what this jury feels about anything. With the Casey Anthony trial, we were there for the whole jury selection. Well, some of us were.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Margaritaville. Does the jury decide that? Always? I was wondering about that. And do they know the death penalty is on the line? Makes me wonder if some jurors/juries don't want to convict on a charge that carries the death penalty, and would instead go for a lesser charge to take it off the table. We don't know (I don't think...??) what this jury feels about anything. With the Casey Anthony trial, we were there for the whole jury selection. Well, some of us were.

Heavens to betsy with that jury. That was agonizing trying to get through that. There is one woman on that jury to this day I would love to question....

 

[usnuzuloose]

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/1...der-murder-trial-jury-selection-questionnaire

Here is an interesting piece where some jurors were questioned.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Margaritaville. Does the jury decide that? Always? I was wondering about that. And do they know the death penalty is on the line? Makes me wonder if some jurors/juries don't want to convict on a charge that carries the death penalty, and would instead go for a lesser charge to take it off the table. We don't know (I don't think...??) what this jury feels about anything. With the Casey Anthony trial, we were there for the whole jury selection. Well, some of us were.

I know, I wish we'd been able to hear the jury selection!

This is what I've found so far:

Under Arizona law every person guilty of first-degree murder shall be punished by death, or imprisonment for life without the possibility of release from prison, or imprisonment for life with the possibility of release after 25 [35] years.
This hearing may include as many as two phases. During this current phase, the jury decides whether any aggravating circumstances exist. If the jury unanimously decides beyond a reasonable doubt that at least one aggravating circumstance exists, then the second phase of the hearing begins.
If the State does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an aggravating circumstance exists, the judge will sentence the defendant to either life imprisonment without the possibility of release, or life imprisonment with the possibility of release after 25 [35] years. If the jury unanimously decides beyond a reasonable doubt that an aggravating circumstance does exist, each juror will decide if mitigating circumstances exist and then, as a jury, you will decide whether to sentence the defendant to life imprisonment or death. If the sentence is life imprisonment then the judge will sentence the defendant to either life imprisonment without the possibility of release from prison, or life imprisonment with the possibility of release from prison after 25 [35] years.
“Life without the possibility of release from prison” means exactly what it says. The sentence of “life without possibility of release from prison” means the defendant will never be eligible to be released from prison for any reason for the rest of the defendant’s life.

http://www.azbar.org/media/58847/4-capital_case_instructions_revised_2011.pdf

And it's my understanding anyone who could not consider the death penalty was dismissed from this jury. Another thing is I don't know that any lesser charge is on the table which would increase the likelihood of a hung jury if any of them don't go with the premeditation and in absence of a lesser charge.

One of those talking heads on TruTV this morning said Jodi could be on the stand all next week (I think that's 3.5 days). I only watched it for an hour or so, I just couldn't take it anymore.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I know, I wish we'd been able to hear the jury selection!

This is what I've found so far:



http://www.azbar.org/media/58847/4-capital_case_instructions_revised_2011.pdf

And it's my understanding anyone who could not consider the death penalty was dismissed from this jury. Another thing is I don't know that any lesser charge is on the table which would increase the likelihood of a hung jury if any of them don't go with the premeditation and in absence of a lesser charge.

One of those talking heads on TruTV this morning said Jodi could be on the stand all next week (I think that's 3.5 days). I only watched it for an hour or so, I just couldn't take it anymore.

Did you see the link I just posted up above you? It talks about a few of the jurors and death penalty phase.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Did you see the link I just posted up above you? It talks about a few of the jurors and death penalty phase.

I did and thank you for posting it, I'm multi tasking here, just read it!

 

[Uncle Remus]

And then there's the technicality of aggravating circumstances, that's why it was so important when the ME testified Travis was shot after being stabbed/attacked with the knife, that the crime was cruel and heinous. Hell, I think the pictures speak for themselves, it was heinous! But I do understand some of these damn technicalities, that's what the damn law is about and some guilty walk.

 

[usnuzuloose]

The multi tasking, gotta love it. Your welcome.

 

[momrek06]

Guys, I want to apologize if I jump all over the place with different questions.

A question….
Why did no one tape JA admitting to killing Travis? There are all those other tapes of her; one in street clothes, (wasn't that the one where she was stretching, gawd) and then the tapes with JA in the orange jump suit.
But later when JA admitted to the actual killing there was no recording of it?

Thx.