wristband fast pass vs. traditional

[kirinmd]

3 fast passes just doesnt seem enough. Does anyone know if the band can be combined with traditional?

 

[dadddio]

Nobody knows how it will work once it's finally rolled out. Stay tuned and cross your fingers

 

[mesaboy2]

3 fast passes just doesnt seem enough. Does anyone know if the band can be combined with traditional?

Not sure I understand the question, but according to most everything I've read FP and FP+ will be mutually exclusive.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

For the time being, FP will not be replaced by FP+. They augment and compliment, not replace. Though, as always, things change.

 

[andyman8]

For the time being, FP will not be replaced by FP+. They augment and compliment, not replace. Though, as always, things change.

It seems the Terms & Conditions page of disneyworld.com would suggest otherwise. According to the latest info, the two will be mutually exclusive (as Mesaboy2 said), but only one thing is certain right now: MyMagic+ (which includes FastPass+, My Disney Experience, and the MagicBand) will be happening. Beyond that, we have no "official" information, so your guest is as good as mine, though.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

It seems the Terms & Conditions page of disneyworld.com would suggest otherwise. According to the latest info, the two will be mutually exclusive (as Mesaboy2 said), but only one thing is certain right now: MyMagic+ (which includes FastPass+, My Disney Experience, and the MagicBand) will be happening. Beyond that, we have no "official" information, so your guest is as good as mine, though.

I asked directly and was told that the FP+ would not replace in-park FastPass options, especially as FP+ is only initially available to resort guests. It may change in the future, but for the time being, they will work together.

When it was described to me, they said that an in-park system would still have to exist for those who are doing day trips and those who are local AP folks who come by regularly, but don't plan extensive stays. I was told that, with the FP+ system, because if favors resort guests and those who will make the 60/90 day window for FP+ scheduling, they would have to keep a FP system within the park that is much the same as exists now, only with less available in-park to balance out the FP+ demand, so that everybody would have access to the system and those who are local, AP, or spontaneous visitors will not have the same access to features that other guests do. I was told this was one of the complaints about the system that people brought up, and the retaining of the internal system was the response.

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

3 fast passes just doesnt seem enough. Does anyone know if the band can be combined with traditional?

Nope, in the terms and condition it stated once you opt. Into FP + you will no longer be able to use the old system

 

[Turn the Page]

Please forgive my ignorance but FP+ is basically a way to schedule fast passes in advance correct? So you could sit at your computer and reserve fast passes two months in advance?

If that is the case I'm not sure I like it.

 

[pauly's girl]

Please forgive my ignorance but FP+ is basically a way to schedule fast passes in advance correct? So you could sit at your computer and reserve fast passes two months in advance?

If that is the case I'm not sure I like it.

I agree!! I love planning Disney but thats crazy...I still like taking my time and not being on such a strict timeline!!

 

[Turn the Page]

I agree!! I love planning Disney but thats crazy...I still like taking my time and not being on such a strict timeline!!

I have a sneaking suspicion that FP+ will end up being like ADR. Sometimes, for the most popular restaurants and times, if you don't make an ADR 5 months before your trip you won't get your preferred location or time. I have no idea what I want to eat for lunch tomorrow let alone 6 months from now. I don't like being locked in that much. I like to go with the flow more.

One concern I have with FP+, and I don't know exactly how it works so this may be a moot point. But, you sign up for fast passes before you go. So say you arrange for a fast pass for TSM or something for early in the morning. My concern is that people using FP+ will scoop up all the early fast passes at the more popular rides so when I, who didn't use FP+ in advance, show up to DHS at RD and immediately proceed to TSM to get a fast pass only to find out my allotted time to return is at 4:30 in the afternoon because everyone using FP+ snatched up all the earlier times. This means that I can't get another fast pass for any other rides until after 4:30 when the one for TSM expires.

It just seems like it would be really unfair to some people. Unless of course they only allow FP+ users a certain number of fast passes for each time frame. That might be ok.

 

[livingthedream]

I asked directly and was told that the FP+ would not replace in-park FastPass options, especially as FP+ is only initially available to resort guests. It may change in the future, but for the time being, they will work together.

When it was described to me, they said that an in-park system would still have to exist for those who are doing day trips and those who are local AP folks who come by regularly, but don't plan extensive stays. I was told that, with the FP+ system, because if favors resort guests and those who will make the 60/90 day window for FP+ scheduling, they would have to keep a FP system within the park that is much the same as exists now, only with less available in-park to balance out the FP+ demand, so that everybody would have access to the system and those who are local, AP, or spontaneous visitors will not have the same access to features that other guests do. I was told this was one of the complaints about the system that people brought up, and the retaining of the internal system was the response.

Who told you this?

 

[WILDERNESS FAN 55]

I agree!! I love planning Disney but thats crazy...I still like taking my time and not being on such a strict timeline!!

If it's true we're only getting 3 FP+ then that's not too much of a schedule to follow. You've got 10-12 more hours to take your time.

I think a lot of people (like us) go to the rope drop rush to ...say TSM grab a FP right away and then get in line. That way we're guaranteed 2 rides on busy days. BUT with FP+ I can schedule late afternoon or evening so it gives me 2 rides but a little breathing room between. Something like TT in EPCOT can usually be ridden twice after rope drop with little wait time. I can get a 3rd ride later then by scheduling. So there are advantages IMO

 

[g-dad66]

Nobody knows how it will work once it's finally rolled out. Stay tuned and cross your fingers

OP: When is your trip? No wristbands in use yet, and maybe not by the time of your trip. Only time will tell if FP+ will completely replace traditional FP.

 

[bleeps]

I asked directly and was told that the FP+ would not replace in-park FastPass options, especially as FP+ is only initially available to resort guests. It may change in the future, but for the time being, they will work together.

It's entirely possible that both systems will run (or two systems of some kind), but it's also designed (as far as we can tell, from everything that Disney *has* said/published so far) that from an individual guest experience it is one or the other. So, perhaps 2 different systems run, but it seems that as an individual you will use one system or the other but not both.

 

[seashoreCM]

A fair way of managing kiosk fastpasses and wristband Fastpass Plus is to use the lockout period. For example if you reserved two rides using FP+ there would be an up to 4 hour (2 times 2 hour) delay after you entered the park and then you could pull regular FP. (Your total lockout could be less for specific rides or on less busy days depending on the lockouts for the rides you chose; also it could be set up so you could pull regular FP after your last FP+ matures if that comes sooner.)

 

[mikegood2]

For the time being, FP will not be replaced by FP+. They augment and compliment, not replace. Though, as always, things change.

While this is correct, for now, I wouldn't count on it being the case in two or three months.

It's entirely possible that both systems will run (or two systems of some kind), but it's also designed (as far as we can tell, from everything that Disney *has* said/published so far) that from an individual guest experience it is one or the other. So, perhaps 2 different systems run, but it seems that as an individual you will use one system or the other but not both.

From everything I've read this appears to be correct! Both systems will be intact for the foreseeable future, but there is a good chance that The traditional FP system will be phased out over time. Once the FP+ system is introduced to everyone it everyone it will be a one or the other process. You won't be able to mix and match,

A fair way of managing kiosk fastpasses and wristband Fastpass Plus is to use the lockout period. For example if you reserved two rides using FP+ there would be an up to 4 hour (2 times 2 hour) delay after you entered the park and then you could pull regular FP. (Your total lockout could be less for specific rides or on less busy days depending on the lockouts for the rides you chose; also it could be set up so you could pull regular FP after your last FP+ matures if that comes sooner.)

At this point ! While FP+ is still in the testing period, those lucky enough to be selected for it have been able to use both systems. Once they activate FP+ for all ( in the next few months?) all indications show it will be one or the other. Our trip is in mid June, so I'm hopping the system will be in use long enough where enough feedback will be available for us to know what system will be better for us.

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[Colleen27]

It's entirely possible that both systems will run (or two systems of some kind), but it's also designed (as far as we can tell, from everything that Disney *has* said/published so far) that from an individual guest experience it is one or the other. So, perhaps 2 different systems run, but it seems that as an individual you will use one system or the other but not both.

Actually, we really don't know even that yet. What we know is that while both systems exist, the RFID tickets are not compatible with the traditional FP machines. We don't know if a same-day/in-park system will exist with the full roll out, much less whether the pre-reserve and same-day systems are mutually exclusive. All we know from the terms of service is that the technology of old FP and the technology of My Magic+ are incompatible so we have to choose which one we wish to use.

 

[RyMacJ]

Okay, here's my confusion. I know FP+ is not fully rolled out yet. I am staying at AoA in May. AoA has the new RFID tickets, right? So...even if FP+ is not rolled out, or even if it is and I opt out of it, will I still be able to pull regular FP with an RFID ticket?

Because you have to feed a ticket into the regular FP machine, right? And I won't have anything to "feed" into it?

Am I making any sense?

 

[bwang123]

I have a sneaking suspicion that FP+ will end up being like ADR. Sometimes, for the most popular restaurants and times, if you don't make an ADR 5 months before your trip you won't get your preferred location or time. I have no idea what I want to eat for lunch tomorrow let alone 6 months from now. I don't like being locked in that much. I like to go with the flow more.

One concern I have with FP+, and I don't know exactly how it works so this may be a moot point. But, you sign up for fast passes before you go. So say you arrange for a fast pass for TSM or something for early in the morning. My concern is that people using FP+ will scoop up all the early fast passes at the more popular rides so when I, who didn't use FP+ in advance, show up to DHS at RD and immediately proceed to TSM to get a fast pass only to find out my allotted time to return is at 4:30 in the afternoon because everyone using FP+ snatched up all the earlier times. This means that I can't get another fast pass for any other rides until after 4:30 when the one for TSM expires.

It just seems like it would be really unfair to some people. Unless of course they only allow FP+ users a certain number of fast passes for each time frame. That might be ok.

not true. in the current system you dont have to wait until your fast pass expires to pull another one.

 

[ghtx]

Okay, here's my confusion. I know FP+ is not fully rolled out yet. I am staying at AoA in May. AoA has the new RFID tickets, right? So...even if FP+ is not rolled out, or even if it is and I opt out of it, will I still be able to pull regular FP with an RFID ticket?

The new "paper" RFID tickets still work with the old FP system.