NCL Breakaway to have Fireworks

[lilpooh108]

I can't wait until DD gets older and she will "allow" us to cruise another line. Right now there is no reasoning with a 3YO who can't understand why Mickey doesn't live in Maui (thank goodness we were going to Aulani afterwards). I love Disney service, etc., but it's time to see another ship

 

[darwinsrule]

I can't wait until DD gets older and she will "allow" us to cruise another line. Right now there is no reasoning with a 3YO who can't understand why Mickey doesn't live in Maui (thank goodness we were going to Aulani afterwards). I love Disney service, etc., but it's time to see another ship

Don't worry. They eventually get 'old' enough to understand. You still end up going back to Disney but there are only so many times you can hit places like Nassau.

Did NCL to 'Bernuda' (as our DD4 calls it) last summer. Will be going back. If Disney decides to add Bermuda in at some point we will be there, until then Breakaway is the plan for when we go back in a year or two.

 

[AlexandNessa]

Can't wait to watch these from the The Haven in June! Sounds like we've got a few DISers trying the Breakaway this year.

 

[mkmommy]

I see this as a win for me....80's music, fireworks AND, I have to assume a smaller pricetag. I am so going...

The price for the New York Bermuda cruises for summer 2014 are high. NCL also has few inside and no ocean view cabins on the new ships so that increases the cost too.

 

[kaseyC]

The price for the New York Bermuda cruises for summer 2014 are high. NCL also has few inside and no ocean view cabins on the new ships so that increases the cost too.

Not quite true. The the prices are high but Breakaway and the Getaway have Ocean View cabins including a family ocean view that sleeps 5 passengers. There are plenty of inside cabins as well as the Studios for 1 or 2. Most of Deck 5 is all ocean view and inside cabins.

http://www.breakaway.ncl.com/ship/deck-plans/#deck5

The Epic is the only NCL ship without oceanview cabins.

 

[Susiesark]

I can't wait until DD gets older and she will "allow" us to cruise another line. Right now there is no reasoning with a 3YO who can't understand why Mickey doesn't live in Maui (thank goodness we were going to Aulani afterwards). I love Disney service, etc., but it's time to see another ship

Too bad for you, the parents. Does she buy your tickets for you?

 

[lilpooh108]

Too bad for you, the parents. Does she buy your tickets for you?

What's with the snark? That's pretty rude.

I have realistic expectations of what my 3YO can understand. She's 3 and she's been on 4 Disney cruises. Can she understand cruising on another line yet? No, she cannot.

So if she's confined to a ship for 7 days, I will fashion the experience according to what our ENTIRE family will enjoy. My opinion is not the only one that matters.

For "regular" vacations, we've done plenty of those. As a 3YO, she's "climbed" the Coba pyramid in Mexico and visited Chichen Itza with us. She's been on 24 flights over 5 hours in length. She's pretty adaptable for a toddler. Can she understand why Golden Mickeys is not the show on tonight? No she cannot.

This year we're going to London, Barcelona and Paris. Mickey will not be in those cities. For good measure, we're throwing in a Disney Magic Med cruise. My family of 9 chose that over the NCL Epic, not her. And yes, I bought the tickets.

 

[CrawfordMomof2]

What's with the snark? That's pretty rude.

I have realistic expectations of what my 3YO can understand. She's 3 and she's been on 4 Disney cruises. Can she understand cruising on another line yet? No, she cannot.

So if she's confined to a ship for 7 days, I will fashion the experience according to what our ENTIRE family will enjoy. My opinion is not the only one that matters.

For "regular" vacations, we've done plenty of those. As a 3YO, she's "climbed" the Coba pyramid in Mexico and visited Chichen Itza with us. She's been on 24 flights over 5 hours in length. She's pretty adaptable for a toddler. Can she understand why Golden Mickeys is not the show on tonight? No she cannot.

This year we're going to London, Barcelona and Paris. Mickey will not be in those cities. For good measure, we're throwing in a Disney Magic Med cruise. My family of 9 chose that over the NCL Epic, not her. And yes, I bought the tickets.

I just wanted to say, coming from another parent that was very well put on your part.

We have 2 children ages 7 and 3. Our oldest is Autistic. He is completely obsessed with Disney, and now that he is feeling more comfortable in public spaces we are planning our first family vacation with all 4 of us.

We felt that Disney would be the best choice for him, and that our youngest will have a great time to. So we made the compromise to spend a little more money so that everyone will have a good time. Just wanted to say I know how you feel.

 

[lilpooh108]

I just wanted to say, coming from another parent that was very well put on your part.

We have 2 children ages 7 and 3. Our oldest is Autistic. He is completely obsessed with Disney, and now that he is feeling more comfortable in public spaces we are planning our first family vacation with all 4 of us.

We felt that Disney would be the best choice for him, and that our youngest will have a great time to. So we made the compromise to spend a little more money so that everyone will have a good time. Just wanted to say I know how you feel.

Thank you for being kind. I usually don't respond to the snark on these threads but that guy's comment really got to me. I try not to judge other people's parenting choices because I don't personally know their circumstance. I always wonder why people think that they can judge.

It's wonderful that your family is willing to compromise to make the experience great for your 7 year old. My DD has gone through some occupational therapy during her lifetime and we've spent alot of time with kids with different needs. Although I can't imagine the challenges your family has faced, I can relate just a bit. Good luck to you and have a great time on your cruise!

 

[mkmommy]

Not quite true. The the prices are high but Breakaway and the Getaway have Ocean View cabins including a family ocean view that sleeps 5 passengers. There are plenty of inside cabins as well as the Studios for 1 or 2. Most of Deck 5 is all ocean view and inside cabins.

http://www.breakaway.ncl.com/ship/deck-plans/#deck5

The Epic is the only NCL ship without oceanview cabins.

That is interesting, when you search for 3 people oceanview do not come up as an option, only when you put in 5 people does oceanview show up.

 

[woody73]

Always a good thing when the competition is following you (not leading).

NCL began operations in 1966.

Woody

 

[kaseyC]

NCL began operations in 1966.

Woody

 

[Capt_BJ]

the only 'approvals' I'm aware of for a cruise ship to launch fireworks would come from their insurance company. As a CG Cutter Commanding Officer working the Carib' I was aware of no law or regulation prohibiting the launching of fireworks at sea - so long as they would not be mistaken for marine distress flares and even then jurisdiction is questionable). Plenty of private boat owners shoot off fireworks at night.

ALL ships already carry a quantity of pyrotechnics - another name for safety and signaling flares (let's not even open the issue of ammunition) IMO and SOLAS already cover storage for those materials on cruise ships. DCL simply wanted to carry more. BTW, don't forget DCL stopped fireworks for a time, after they set their ship on fire (a boo boo) Hence the new launch system?

Disney got approval from LLoyds in my opinion ... and probably pursued it mostly because they have a LARGE in house fireworks production capability - they could do fireworks at sea at less cost then other cruise lines. Don't they launch/make more annually than any other company therefore their cost was minimal? Possibly something like the half truth they tell {told} about being the only ship with approval for yellow lifeboats. Yes they petitioned IMO for a change which was approved. Nothing stopped others from doing it B4 - no one else saw the need. Today a bunch of ships have yellow lifeboats.

I like DCL ... but sometimes their PR department is a bit overly creative for my liking ...

 

[Rogillio]

NCL began operations in 1966.

Woody

And for over 50 years they did not have fireworks. LOL

DCL has taken away 4 cruiseship's worth of passengers from the other cruise lines. Actually, that's not true. Many are like me and cruising never even on the radar till DISNEY got involved and now we've cruised a oxen times on DCL, NCL and HAL.

 

[Rogillio]

the only 'approvals' I'm aware of for a cruise ship to launch fireworks would come from their insurance company. As a CG Cutter Commanding Officer working the Carib' I was aware of no law or regulation prohibiting the launching of fireworks at sea - so long as they would not be mistaken for marine distress flares and even then jurisdiction is questionable). Plenty of private boat owners shoot off fireworks at night.

ALL ships already carry a quantity of pyrotechnics - another name for safety and signaling flares (let's not even open the issue of ammunition) IMO and SOLAS already cover storage for those materials on cruise ships. DCL simply wanted to carry more. BTW, don't forget DCL stopped fireworks for a time, after they set their ship on fire (a boo boo) Hence the new launch system?

Disney got approval from LLoyds in my opinion ... and probably pursued it mostly because they have a LARGE in house fireworks production capability - they could do fireworks at sea at less cost then other cruise lines. Don't they launch/make more annually than any other company therefore their cost was minimal? Possibly something like the half truth they tell {told} about being the only ship with approval for yellow lifeboats. Yes they petitioned IMO for a change which was approved. Nothing stopped others from doing it B4 - no one else saw the need. Today a bunch of ships have yellow lifeboats.

I like DCL ... but sometimes their PR department is a bit overly creative for my liking ...

Really!? You think a $55 billion dollar company buys insurance? My guess is they are self insured like most billion dollar companies. They may pay an administrator of their insurance but they are the underwriter and carry the risk on their books.

 

[insureman]

Really!? You think a $55 billion dollar company buys insurance? My guess is they are self insured like most billion dollar companies. They may pay an administrator of their insurance but they are the underwriter and carry the risk on their books.

Risk management would not carry that type of liability for even a company such as Disney. Although the probability of a major loss (including property and bodily injury claims) is small the monetary risk of such a loss is tremendous. I believe the Captain is correct that most likely they're insured by Lloyds with a big big big deductible for self insurance to take care of.

 

[Capt_BJ]

if self insured (which I do not agree with)

then who did they need approval from?

do you think the Costa Concordia was insured?

btw while Disney is HUGE, isn't DCL a sep' company ... perhaps to separate liability?

 

[Rogillio]

if self insured (which I do not agree with)

then who did they need approval from?

do you think the Costa Concordia was insured?

btw while Disney is HUGE, isn't DCL a sep' company ... perhaps to separate liability?

US Coast Guard for loading the pyrotechnic devices (gun powder) on the ship at Port Canaveral? IDK.

I can see DCL wanting to retire risk if possible....but I do NOT see them taking a risk like this if they thought it was a credible risk. If the ship sank, no insurance company could cover the loss better than the Disney Corp. if there was a misfire and some got injured or burned, the cost to Disney is nothing.....hundred million at best.

 

[chateau]

Many are like me and cruising never even on the radar till DISNEY got involved and now we've cruised a oxen times on DCL, NCL and HAL.

sometimes computers make what we're trying to say rather comedic!

 

[moomy-san]

sometimes computers make what we're trying to say rather comedic!

Is that more or less than a gaggle? I've cruised a gaggle of times.