3 Day park hoppers now have to show ID

[bcla]

As the 3 days have gone on the I'd thing is very easy, for the adults. I just have my I'd out when I give them the ticket. They also haven't been checking the hand stamp very often for park hopping. Only about 1 in every 3 times. The signing the ticket in "their" pen was a hassle, especially when we had 1st entered they didn't ask us to but told us "be sure you sign your ticket". Didn't say anything about "their " pen. Most of us had to have the tickets reprinted and signed again.

I just wish they would have put this change of policy on the web site. Because if the 4and 5 day discussions here, I checked the web site before my group left. Nothing was said.

Our biggest issues was with the teenagers, 18 of them. Many didn't bring their school ids with them. If I had know I would have told them to. We got it worked out. But it was a hassle.

The other issue is that not everyone that deals with tickets is aware of the change. Just for fun, I called Disney to ask which tickets required Id. The CM said 4 and 5, I asked specifically if 3 days had to and he told me no. If they are making a change, for the better, it is fine, but communicate that change and have some kind of "grace" period to put it into effect.

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I can just say from my experience using a 3-day CityPass PH on Thanksgiving weekend and making a total of five entrances and reentrances, I was asked for ID every single time. I think that's reasonable because spot checks aren't going to work.

I think they're starting to insist on "their pen" now as well as machine printing the names. One of the new tactics of the rental brokers is to have the name written in a dry erase pen that can be wiped and a new name placed. They might even instruct their customers to bring along a disguised dry erase pen, although if I were a CM I could smell one easily.

 

[pixiewings71]

Disney wasn't cracking down on the ticket ID issue in August so you wouldn't have had the problems people are dealing with now. They started this in late Oct. (the 24th I believe) right before we went.

They weren't being as strict then but they were absolutely 100% checking, DD and DBF's tickets were printed by the CM a the Toy Story lot with their names on them. DBF's parents, sister, BIL and nephews had to write their names on their tickets as well and everyone was asked for ID at least once, except the kids.

We have to show ID (passports) for our minor children every time we fly, whether it is a flight in Canada or a flight in the States. I'm not talking just Canada to US flights and vice versa. It's flights within both countries. Perhaps it's more of an airline policy rather than the acutal law though. They've always asked and we've always produced it, no questions asked.

I'd rather not carry our passports to the park and will try gaining entry without them the first day, although my DH and I will of course have our driver's licenses. Hopefully that will be enough.

DD12 & DD16 flew for Thanksgiving, they did not need ID to board the plane or pass through security.

I know I'm the odd one out, but I think it is about time they do this. And everyone should have photo ID past the age of 12. Schools give out IDs these days, it isn't hard. My 9 year old has one. It is totally reasonable for Disney to want to confirm ages of groups and whatnot. Too much abuse has brought us to this point. I hope this will stop it!

Not all schools provide ID for kids, and I don't let my kids take their school ID's with them to DL. If they get lost I have to pay $25 each to replace them. If they start asking kids for ID then I think that is unreasonable.

I can just say from my experience using a 3-day CityPass PH on Thanksgiving weekend and making a total of five entrances and reentrances, I was asked for ID every single time. I think that's reasonable because spot checks aren't going to work.

I think they're starting to insist on "their pen" now as well as machine printing the names. One of the new tactics of the rental brokers is to have the name written in a dry erase pen that can be wiped and a new name placed. They might even instruct their customers to bring along a disguised dry erase pen, although if I were a CM I could smell one easily.

I could smell the ink from a dry erase marker as well. Really sucks that the ticket brokers were doing that type of thing. Well, sucks for those who are honest.

 

[Rhonna]

DD12 did not have to show ID to use her 3 day hopper in August.

Disney wasn't cracking down on the ticket ID issue in August so you wouldn't have had the problems people are dealing with now. They started this in late Oct. (the 24th I believe) right before we went.

They weren't being as strict then but they were absolutely 100% checking,

I'm sure there has always been some checking of ID and tickets to see how big the ticket rental problem was and I'm sure it was more intense this year to gear up for the big crack down they knew was coming, hence you encountered some in August. However, I was referring to the big, official crack down that started on (or right around Oct. 24th) that began all these posts and outrage and when disney put out signage at the entrances to notify guests of this change.

ttig34 on these boards started the first thread about the 4-5 day passes. Then, this thread was started when disney later began to include the 3 day passes. ttig34 said the official "signage" was up on Oct. 24th where disney notified people that they would have to use a separate line, show ID and be entered into the computer.

 

[jory29]

I know I'm the odd one out, but I think it is about time they do this. And everyone should have photo ID past the age of 12. Schools give out IDs these days, it isn't hard. My 9 year old has one. It is totally reasonable for Disney to want to confirm ages of groups and whatnot. Too much abuse has brought us to this point. I hope this will stop it!

I totally agree with you - I doubt you are the odd one out.
However, that being said, our kids don't get any ID issued to them besides our passports (Canada) and I can not take risk of losing them the parks - our schools do not necessarily provide ID, (some do, some don't) but our health care (Alberta) does, and so I will make sure to keep that on us, as well as some sort of proof of ID for the adults in our party of 4 if needed. (DH and I will have our Driver's License photo ID on us for ID, which is reasonable to expect one can carry with them.) I now agree that too much ticket abuse has taken place, and finally, with all of this 'asking for ID' in admission line-ups taking place, I can confirm that the fraudulent ticket use has created Disney to dismiss the 'longer-than-5-day-Park Hopper' option for ticket sales: (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2980067) Initially, I had hesitations that ticket fraud was that rampant, but it appears they are cracking down on that, and I do now believe that it was a legitimate concern by Disney.

A simply solution might be a photo ID pass upon purchase/ticket redemption if purchased through Disney directly or through other sources - not very expensive to implement for long-term ID verification, it is instantaneous, and is probably more trust-worthy than the finger print ID system.

Edited to add: Post #465 of this thread http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2980067&page=31 was inspired by this one. Thanks, OP!!

 

[HollyL]

Wouldn't a social security card suffice for ID (at least for Americans)? We just flew on SouthWest Airlines with our 18 month old. On the out-going flight, we weren't asked any questions, but on the flight back, we were asked, and her Social Security card was fine.

 

[HollyL]

I know I'm the odd one out, but I think it is about time they do this. And everyone should have photo ID past the age of 12. Schools give out IDs these days, it isn't hard. My 9 year old has one. It is totally reasonable for Disney to want to confirm ages of groups and whatnot. Too much abuse has brought us to this point. I hope this will stop it!

I agree with you. In the age that we are living in, there is no reason that every American citizen shouldn't be required to have a photo ID. Many countries require that their citizens have them. Why should we be any different? Just my opinion.

 

[pixiewings71]

I'm sure there has always been some checking of ID and tickets to see how big the ticket rental problem was and I'm sure it was more intense this year to gear up for the big crack down they knew was coming, hence you encountered some in August. However, I was referring to the big, official crack down that started on (or right around Oct. 24th) that began all these posts and outrage and when disney put out signage at the entrances to notify guests of this change.

ttig34 on these boards started the first thread about the 4-5 day passes. Then, this thread was started when disney later began to include the 3 day passes. ttig34 said the official "signage" was up on Oct. 24th where disney notified people that they would have to use a separate line, show ID and be entered into the computer.

All I'm doing is giving my experiences, stating that as far back as August they were beginning to check ID for those with 3 day hoppers. That's all, it's what I've done since August and I'll continue to do so so others know it's been going on since at least then. I can't report earlier than that because DD16 and I had AP's for our July trip, in fact we still have AP's so we don't get asked for ID.

Wouldn't a social security card suffice for ID (at least for Americans)? We just flew on SouthWest Airlines with our 18 month old. On the out-going flight, we weren't asked any questions, but on the flight back, we were asked, and her Social Security card was fine.

A SS card doesn't have a photo or birth date. I'm not sure it would work for Disney or not.

I agree with you. In the age that we are living in, there is no reason that every American citizen shouldn't be required to have a photo ID. Many countries require that their citizens have them. Why should we be any different? Just my opinion.

Every citizen? I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I definitely think every adult should have some type of ID on them when they leave the house. Adult being 18+.

 

[bcla]

Wouldn't a social security card suffice for ID (at least for Americans)? We just flew on SouthWest Airlines with our 18 month old. On the out-going flight, we weren't asked any questions, but on the flight back, we were asked, and her Social Security card was fine.

Keeping a social security number card on your person is a really, really bad idea. I used to do it until I was warned against the possibility of identity theft should my wallet be lost or stolen. The only reason anyone should ever need to produce one is for employment verification or a governmental purpose. However, I consider a passport or passport card a better option since they contain a photo. There was a time when school IDs and some states' driver license numbers were tied to SSNs, but that practice was mostly discontinued a while ago because of the risks.

http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/

You need a Social Security number to get a job, collect Social Security benefits and receive some other government services. But you don't often need to show your Social Security card. Do not carry your card with you. Keep it in a safe place with your other important papers.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/consumers/deter.html

DETER: Minimize Your Risk

While nothing can guarantee that you won't become a victim of identity theft, you can minimize your risk, and minimize the damage if a problem develops, by making it more difficult for identity thieves to access your personal information.

Protect your Social Security number

Don't carry your Social Security card in your wallet or write your Social Security number on a check. Give your Social Security number only when absolutely necessary, and ask to use other types of identifiers. If your state uses your Social Security number as your driver's license number, ask to substitute another number. Do the same if your health insurance company uses your Social Security number as your policy number.

 

[Dizzy4DL]

Maybe I'll bring a piece of mail from our medical insurance(with numbers blacked out), it is addressed to our dd, and my ID has our mailing address. They can compare the two. That should more than suffice as ID for a child.

 

[danaesacto]

Maybe I'll bring a piece of mail from our medical insurance(with numbers blacked out), it is addressed to our dd, and my ID has our mailing address. They can compare the two. That should more than suffice as ID for a child.

I think a picture is what they want so the person standing in front of them is the name they see. One poster said she was just going to make ID's for her kids- that would be smart- get a recent photo, add their name, your name and your cell. Have them sign it and be done.

 

[Dizzy4DL]

I think a picture is what they want so the person standing in front of them is the name they see. One poster said she was just going to make ID's for her kids- that would be smart- get a recent photo, add their name, your name and your cell. Have them sign it and be done.

I thought about the photo thing after I posted.

 

[SUNNYVEE]

Just came back from Disneyland on Saturday and we had 2-day hoppers. We went Thursday and saw no sign of being asked for our ID's. It DEFINITELY slowed down the lines as big families had to sign each ticket and show ID. Regarding minors, we had a 13 year old with us and they made her show her high school ID each time. She also had to show her ID at the airport. What would have happened if she didn't have her school ID? I thought that was a little ridiculous. Friday we saw signs that said to have our ID's out which we already knew at that point since we went back and forth to parks.

 

[lizabu]

Just came back from Disneyland on Saturday and we had 2-day hoppers. We went Thursday and saw no sign of being asked for our ID's. It DEFINITELY slowed down the lines as big families had to sign each ticket and show ID. Regarding minors, we had a 13 year old with us and they made her show her high school ID each time. She also had to show her ID at the airport. What would have happened if she didn't have her school ID? I thought that was a little ridiculous. Friday we saw signs that said to have our ID's out which we already knew at that point since we went back and forth to parks.

Does anyone else think this is pointless? A school ID is pretty easy to fake. If they accept IDs that could be fake what's the point of asking for ID? Or the poster who said they were going to make their own IDs for their kids?

 

[bcla]

Just came back from Disneyland on Saturday and we had 2-day hoppers. We went Thursday and saw no sign of being asked for our ID's. It DEFINITELY slowed down the lines as big families had to sign each ticket and show ID. Regarding minors, we had a 13 year old with us and they made her show her high school ID each time. She also had to show her ID at the airport. What would have happened if she didn't have her school ID? I thought that was a little ridiculous. Friday we saw signs that said to have our ID's out which we already knew at that point since we went back and forth to parks.

It's generally been policy that minors aren't asked for IDs, but it gets into a fuzzy area when it's a minor who looks to be close to adult age.

"OK - you say you're under 18 but how do we really know?"

I've got at least two forms of government issued ID for my kid, so I think we're covered **just in case**. I know some people are adamant that it's overkill, but we come prepared.

At airports the posted "requirement" is for adults to have a valid ID. In reality, they will take people aside who don't have the required IDs and use publicly available databases to ascertain someone's identity and see if it matches up. This is time consuming and of course can be bad if one is late for a flight. I suppose that if they want to see a minor's ID and they don't have it, they would do the same as for an adult.

 

[Dramamama]

DL should just put in the finger scan machine that they use at WDW if they are going to continue this policy. It would make everything easier. Almost everyone carries their fingers with them. LOL.

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[larina]

...Not all schools provide ID for kids, and I don't let my kids take their school ID's with them to DL. If they get lost I have to pay $25 each to replace them. If they start asking kids for ID then I think that is unreasonable...

ID isn't an automatic right. You are supposed to purchase one. I don't think it is unreasonable at all. If schools don't provide one, every citizen has the right to go to DMV and get one.

...But, just because your school gives out IDs doesn't mean they all do. My kids go to private school and they are not given ID cards. If I need to bring ID for my kids, I'd have to go get them a state issued ID as I don't want to bring their passports to the parks...

State ID was exactly what I was thinking. If you kids don't get school IDs they should have State issued ones.

Wouldn't a social security card suffice for ID (at least for Americans)?...

No it doesn't have a pic or a birthday listed and you aren't supposed to travel with your SS card in your possession (unless you are going to gamble, then carry it, you need it for a big win!)

I agree with you. In the age that we are living in, there is no reason that every American citizen shouldn't be required to have a photo ID. Many countries require that their citizens have them. Why should we be any different? Just my opinion.

...Every citizen? I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I definitely think every adult should have some type of ID on them when they leave the house. Adult being 18+.

I think it should be required 12 on. There's just too much grey area.

I think a picture is what they want so the person standing in front of them is the name they see. One poster said she was just going to make ID's for her kids- that would be smart- get a recent photo, add their name, your name and your cell. Have them sign it and be done.

Homemade ID would be, essentially, useless. Doesn't tell anyone anything except you made a cute card with a picture on it.

Does anyone else think this is pointless? A school ID is pretty easy to fake. If they accept IDs that could be fake what's the point of asking for ID? Or the poster who said they were going to make their own IDs for their kids?

School IDs are different than homemade IDs, although state issued would be the best choice. I think Disney would be well within their right to require ID for anyone 10 and over, really. In terms of combatting fraud.

 

[abent]

One of the issues I have with this is that when I spoke to WDT just a week ago I asked abouth being asked for ID. I was assured it was NOt happening, and at that time my personal concern was our family happens to have differant PH. Some have 3 day, some have 4, depending on how long their schedule could handle. I wanted to know if we should even attempt entry at the same line. Thank goodness for the boards, because I have NEVER taken ID for my teen boys, even when we have flown into SNA. I would of shown up unprepared, and I know they are going to want to go play with out us a little bit. Bottom line if they are going to ID, I would think they would let me know before I travel to the parks so we can prepare for it, ESPECIALLY if I ask!!!

 

[pigby]

Would they be OK with foreign drivers licences, do you think as I am loathe to carry passports around all day?

We had an embarrassing situation at the RFC at DTD last time when they refused to accept or drivers licence to verify who we were (in conjunction with a travellers check and our DAP's!) - never again will we go there.

 

[danaesacto]

Homemade ID would be, essentially, useless. Doesn't tell anyone anything except you made a cute card with a picture on it.

No, you are wrong. If the whole point is that someone can't rent out the ticket for the last days, then you couldn't suddenly have some little blonde girl using the same ticket as the dark haired boy who used it the first 2 days because if I am the first family to use the ticket I am not going to hand the ID to the renters to manipulate, and the renters wouldn't have a picture ID with my kids' name on it. It is the same as the adults CDL- picture matches person in front of you, name matches what is in computer.

Obviously if you made it yourself you can write any name you want on it- but the idea is that that is the name and face that should use the ticket all week.

 

[Love Tink]

I agree with you. In the age that we are living in, there is no reason that every American citizen shouldn't be required to have a photo ID. Many countries require that their citizens have them. Why should we be any different? Just my opinion.

Since you asked: Because the United States has always strived to be the leader rather than the follower. Because the United States, the "Grand Experiment," holds as its most core belief the necessity for its citizens to enjoy the benefits of a free society. Because its laws and policies have been developed to protect that free society.

If you want to live in a country where all adults are "required" to have ID, then you don't want to live in the United States. (But I see that you are from Texas, so that may actually be true.)

On another note, I can totally understand Disneyland wanting its visitors to provide ID to use certain tickets. But 1) They should present this information in flashing neon on their web site and 2) Asking for it for anyone who doesn't look old enough to drive is ridiculous and is a huge customer relations mistake.