Gay Days?

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We've been during gay week before and other than it being a bit busier than normal, didn't notice! Not that it would have bothered me anyway :)
 
How many more boards are you going to post this?? You're obviously looking for people to be all, " oh yeah totally agree!" but you're not getting it. Probably because they don't want to get involved in what is obviously a thinly-veiled attempt at bigotry.

I don't see why this is even an issue.
 
I don't think questioning the behavior of certain groups who've been known to act in distasteful ways is bigotry. If they had black panther day at Disney I wouldn't go near during that week. This doesn't make me racist because I find this particular groups actions sickening. Same with Gay Days. The ones who attend do not represent all gays. You wouldn't catch me dead at a gay pride parade nor would you find me at a Chippendale show with or without my children. One of our favorite places to eat right outside the Disney gates will no longer be on our list of must do's. Our waitress who we thought was female until he asked for our order in a skirt gave my children quite a shock. He wouldn't even look us in the eye and the whole experience was very disturbing. This is not family friendly to us as these are discussions that should not be forced upon 5 year olds. The only encounter I've had with this group was in the 90's and I did see things that bothered me. I only witnessed this outside the gates but still every family should be able to make their own judgements and not be called bigots.
 
I don't think questioning the behavior of certain groups who've been known to act in distasteful ways is bigotry. If they had black panther day at Disney I wouldn't go near during that week. This doesn't make me racist because I find this particular groups actions sickening. Same with Gay Days. The ones who attend do not represent all gays. You wouldn't catch me dead at a gay pride parade nor would you find me at a Chippendale show with or without my children. One of our favorite places to eat right outside the Disney gates will no longer be on our list of must do's. Our waitress who we thought was female until he asked for our order in a skirt gave my children quite a shock. He wouldn't even look us in the eye and the whole experience was very disturbing. This is not family friendly to us as these are discussions that should not be forced upon 5 year olds. The only encounter I've had with this group was in the 90's and I did see things that bothered me. I only witnessed this outside the gates but still every family should be able to make their own judgements and not be called bigots.

That's absolutely right. This is America, everyone should be able to be left to have their beliefs without persecution and harsh judgment. Just the same as all people should be able to express themselves and live their lives as who they are without being persecuted and judged. It would be a wonderful and perfect world if we were all tolerant, and treated everyone with common human decency and respect and taught our children to do the same. Gay Days shouldn't need to exist, but unfortunately it does because not everyone has the same beliefs I do. A transgendered waitress shouldn't be made to feel so uncomfortable by the reactions of guests that she can't make eye contact with them. It's really too bad that there are some people who don't think that all people are equal.
 
Seriously. A 5 year old, if they even noticed ON THEIR OWN would just accept the answer, "he must like to dress up" and would move on.

Btw, the definition of bigotry is "intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself." so yeah, a bigot is a bigot.

Funny to have a Pollyanna name and be so negative about people. To compare the lgbt population with a group known for violence is pretty showing.
 
I don't think questioning the behavior of certain groups who've been known to act in distasteful ways is bigotry. If they had black panther day at Disney I wouldn't go near during that week. This doesn't make me racist because I find this particular groups actions sickening. Same with Gay Days. The ones who attend do not represent all gays. You wouldn't catch me dead at a gay pride parade nor would you find me at a Chippendale show with or without my children. One of our favorite places to eat right outside the Disney gates will no longer be on our list of must do's. Our waitress who we thought was female until he asked for our order in a skirt gave my children quite a shock. He wouldn't even look us in the eye and the whole experience was very disturbing. This is not family friendly to us as these are discussions that should not be forced upon 5 year olds. The only encounter I've had with this group was in the 90's and I did see things that bothered me. I only witnessed this outside the gates but still every family should be able to make their own judgements and not be called bigots.


I respect people who come here to ask what to expect to see if they take their children to Disney during Gay Days. There are some articles out there that would call into question the timing of that visit when you are bringing youngsters on vacation. I also respect but do not understand the concern some people have if their children are "exposed" to people whose sexual orientation differs from their own. But my tolerance stops at that point. You get to decide what is appropriate in your own home. You get to determine how to parent your children. You should not get to decide that it is okay to make people who are simply working uncomfortable because of your own discomfort.

People who have been to Disney during Gay Days have stated every time this question comes up that there is no real reason to boycott Disney during that time frame. There is no real reason to expect behavior that is going to scar your children and make their eyes bleed.

Your example that compares gay families to Black Panthers is offensive. Kind of like comparing those Bikers who ride for charities Hell's Angels. That type of post tends to scream bigotry.
 


I didn't read the whole thread, but Gay Days is all over Orlando. So while avoiding a certain park on this certain day, you may encounter Gay Days somewhere else.

Plus, it's really not that crowded because everyone is trying to avoid it.... Avoid people just being people enjoying Disney.... It is our favorite time to go and take our children. ;)
 
Missy13d69 said:
That's absolutely right. This is America, everyone should be able to be left to have their beliefs without persecution and harsh judgment. Just the same as all people should be able to express themselves and live their lives as who they are without being persecuted and judged. It would be a wonderful and perfect world if we were all tolerant, and treated everyone with common human decency and respect and taught our children to do the same. Gay Days shouldn't need to exist, but unfortunately it does because not everyone has the same beliefs I do. A transgendered waitress shouldn't be made to feel so uncomfortable by the reactions of guests that she can't make eye contact with them. It's really too bad that there are some people who don't think that all people are equal.

Well said. I'm straight and white, but would never look down on people or judge them because they actually have the guts to be themselves and not be embarrassed about who they are.
 
Do you have any idea how old that article is? Every year someone drags up that same old, tired, self loathing article and says, "OH NOES! I don't want my kids to see teh gay!" Every. Single. Year. I think that article has been circulating as long as I have been on the DIS.

Listen to the people that have actually been there.

... and I have a 4 year old that knows what "gay" is. You underestimate your kids.
I agree, I think that article is from about 2005, so over 7 years old. Why doesn't Pete just have someone from the Disboards crew go to Gay Days each year and write a new/fresh/up-to-date blog post about the actual events/experiences? That would seem to make more sense than that old article getting recycled every year and rehashed on EVERY SINGLE Gay Days thread.
 
I don't think questioning the behavior of certain groups who've been known to act in distasteful ways is bigotry. If they had black panther day at Disney I wouldn't go near during that week. This doesn't make me racist because I find this particular groups actions sickening. Same with Gay Days. The ones who attend do not represent all gays. You wouldn't catch me dead at a gay pride parade nor would you find me at a Chippendale show with or without my children. One of our favorite places to eat right outside the Disney gates will no longer be on our list of must do's. Our waitress who we thought was female until he asked for our order in a skirt gave my children quite a shock. He wouldn't even look us in the eye and the whole experience was very disturbing. This is not family friendly to us as these are discussions that should not be forced upon 5 year olds. The only encounter I've had with this group was in the 90's and I did see things that bothered me. I only witnessed this outside the gates but still every family should be able to make their own judgements and not be called bigots.
The saddest thing about this post, and there are many, is that you don't even know that you are a bigot and you are teaching bigotry to your children.
 
I don't think questioning the behavior of certain groups who've been known to act in distasteful ways is bigotry. If they had black panther day at Disney I wouldn't go near during that week. This doesn't make me racist because I find this particular groups actions sickening. Same with Gay Days. The ones who attend do not represent all gays. You wouldn't catch me dead at a gay pride parade nor would you find me at a Chippendale show with or without my children. One of our favorite places to eat right outside the Disney gates will no longer be on our list of must do's. Our waitress who we thought was female until he asked for our order in a skirt gave my children quite a shock. He wouldn't even look us in the eye and the whole experience was very disturbing. This is not family friendly to us as these are discussions that should not be forced upon 5 year olds. The only encounter I've had with this group was in the 90's and I did see things that bothered me. I only witnessed this outside the gates but still every family should be able to make their own judgements and not be called bigots.
I should probably keep my mouth shut on this thread, but I can't.

If your waitress was indeed transgender, she likely introduced herself to you with a female name and presented herself to you as female. Maybe you could tell she was trans by her voice, but that doesn't give you the right to call her by any other name or pronoun than what she gave to you or to make her feel uncomfortable for just being herself and trying to do her job.

If it was just a man wearing a skirt, it may have been surprising to see but I'm not sure how that would be shocking to the point of disturbing your children. Have they never seen a photo of a man in a kilt?

Children come into the world with no knowledge or pre-conceived ideas about anything; it's adults that project their own prejudices onto their children. If your children found it shocking to see a man in a skirt, it's likely because you gave them the idea that that's something to be shocked about.

Also, we've taken our daughter to the Pride Parade in NYC every year since she was born. It's not all scantily-clad men and women dancing to club music on floats (and our daughter's only comment about these was to ask why they were wearing bathing suits); there are just as many families with children, elderly people, marching bands, dance troupes, sports teams, schools, religious groups, corporations, etc that march or have floats in the parade.
 
I respect people who come here to ask what to expect to see if they take their children to Disney during Gay Days. There are some articles out there that would call into question the timing of that visit when you are bringing youngsters on vacation. I also respect but do not understand the concern some people have if their children are "exposed" to people whose sexual orientation differs from their own. But my tolerance stops at that point. You get to decide what is appropriate in your own home. You get to determine how to parent your children. You should not get to decide that it is okay to make people who are simply working uncomfortable because of your own discomfort.

People who have been to Disney during Gay Days have stated every time this question comes up that there is no real reason to boycott Disney during that time frame. There is no real reason to expect behavior that is going to scar your children and make their eyes bleed.

Your example that compares gay families to Black Panthers is offensive. Kind of like comparing those Bikers who ride for charities Hell's Angels. That type of post tends to scream bigotry.

seriously - actually its more like African American family day than Black Panther day. Unless you think Night of Joy is KKK Night?
The saddest thing about this post, and there are many, is that you don't even know that you are a bigot and you are teaching bigotry to your children.

amen
 
Obviously you all missed not only the point but the entire boat on my post. So should I take my children into strip clubs and teach them the culture of pimps and prostitutes. I find your posts to be the intolerant. I never put a blanket on the entire gay community as I stated in my post. I will speak my opinion about vulgarity and stick to it. I have known and worked with many gays. Some were very respectable normal people. Oriental Trading is one of my favorite stores to order from and as I learned long ago from a gay boss they are a gay owned company. I did see obscenity outside the entrance to Disney in the 90's. If you want to teach what I saw to your children go right ahead but I was raised better. I have seen pics of gay pride parades and SOME of them should be ashamed. When you're too bull headed to see the problems and correct them you can't have a helpful conversation.
 
Lol, some are respectable AND normal? Who knew it was possible?

seriously next thing you know they will want to have children and families and have a legal marriage to their longterm partner so they can have the same rights as heterosexual couples.
 
Anyone remember when pre-marital sex, divorce and out of wedlock children used to be unacceptable? Funny how times change. Maybe there is hope for each and everyone of us to be accepted.
 
I'm still wondering where she is meeting all of the perfect heterosexuals!

I'm wondering if the kids are protected from the heterosexual couples acting inappropriately. I mean I've seen some hetero couples who needed a firehose turned on them.
 
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