Hong Kong no Phooey TR (Apr 2012)! The Yee's have it....TR finish #1101, 07/09

Sorry you were starting to feel badly at this point in the trip. I would love to see Macau someday. Vegas folk always talk about the beautiful casinos, and I would love to see some of them. Maybe we can even stay there for a few nights. Thanks for the tip on the tickets to get there. We will try to buy them as much in advance as possible. The Venetian there almost seems more beautiful even though it looks similar. I definitely want to ride the gondola there, since I love the one here. Macau Tower reminds me of a nicer version of the Stratosphere. We need to check that out as well. The bungy jumping from the top of the tower looks awesome. They do something similar at the Stratosphere that I may have to try one day. Here I am planning my trip, which is at least 5-10 years off.
 
The tarts looked yummy and sound wonderful. I think my Portuguese grandparents must have been holding out on me, I don't remember them at all.

You have Portuguese grandparents and they never shared tarts with you????? They were definitely holding out on you!! :upsidedow



Thanks! I am really enjoying your report.

It is a 10-day trip for DH and me. We will spend two weekends in Hong Kong and the intervening week in Guanghzou, which we will explore during the day while DD is at work. One weekend will be at DL--not ideal timing, but DD can't go during the week, so we will just make the best of it.

Two questions so far:

First, what kind of camera/lens did you use to take the Small World photos?

And second, is there any easy way to say which seating section of the FoLK show is best?

Thanks!

Claire

My standard disclaimer - WARNING. Hanging out on the DisBoard Photography sub-forum is EXPENSIVE.
The camera I was shooting with is a Canon T2i (or 550D depending on the country you're in). I have the Canon EF-S 17 - 55 f/2.8 lens, which is not a cheap lens. Most of those shots were taken at f/2.8 with an ISO at 1600.


At HKDL, when you enter the Theatre in the Wild head towards the left. It will be the first set of seats on your left. In my personal opinion, this is where I would want to sit as Rafiki and some of the other characters tend to face this set of seats more often.



I am caught up. so many pics I forgot what I read....:eek: Everything is so different except the casinos. I will get to stay caught up now.:thumbsup2

Yes.So.many.pics. :headache:


Very exotic day. I can imagine that it was quite eventful, especially if you were starting to feel icky.

I think I would rather go to Vegas since it's in my country and I would know all the laws and extradition would be much less complicated! :lmao:

If you were going to go because of the casino, then yes...stick with Vegas.


Sorry you were starting to feel badly at this point in the trip. I would love to see Macau someday. Vegas folk always talk about the beautiful casinos, and I would love to see some of them. Maybe we can even stay there for a few nights. Thanks for the tip on the tickets to get there. We will try to buy them as much in advance as possible. The Venetian there almost seems more beautiful even though it looks similar. I definitely want to ride the gondola there, since I love the one here. Macau Tower reminds me of a nicer version of the Stratosphere. We need to check that out as well. The bungy jumping from the top of the tower looks awesome. They do something similar at the Stratosphere that I may have to try one day. Here I am planning my trip, which is at least 5-10 years off.

5 - 10 years?? Hey - maybe we can DisMeet there. :rotfl:
 
Interesting...
Apart from the tarts I'm happy to see nothing that appeals so I didn't miss anything. ;)
(there's logic there for my bank account)

Plus...as I've said many a time...dealing with the attitude of the Mainland Chinese is NOT something I will tolerate for many things. HKDL is about it :rolleyes1

Looking forward to the actual MACAU....pre-casinos popcorn::
 
No surprise that you got lost at The Venetian. We stayed there for a night and we got lost every time we left our room! And the staff weren't any help, nobody could ever give us directions. It was so frustrating! I would love to go back to Macau as unfortunately we experienced the torrential rain there as well so we didn't get to see everything that we wanted to, but I would not stay at The Venetian again.

We went to Macau before HKDL so it was our first experience of Mainland Chinese. We had the exact same scenario at immigration. The pushing and shoving was unbelievable!
 


I have always wanted to visit Macau, I have seen a lot of wonderful food come out that region. The tarts look and sound divine, the creaminess part is always a draw for me.
 
I still have a lot to cover from your TR. I enjoy all of your pics from your trip, the ones that I really enjoy the most are the aerial photos when you and your family are in the towers and cable cars.
 


A busy day to start feeling ill, what a pity. Love the sound of those Portuguese tarts-one of my favourites. The Venetian must be the same company right? as though bigger I couldn't get over how it seemed an exact copy of the Venetian in Vegas. Seems like touring Macau would be easiest to do on a tour rather than by yourself to get about the different attractions? Eagerly awaiting more...(get back to work Wendy-I am on a coffee break whilst working from home today-yaay!)
 
Interesting...
Apart from the tarts I'm happy to see nothing that appeals so I didn't miss anything. ;)
(there's logic there for my bank account)

Plus...as I've said many a time...dealing with the attitude of the Mainland Chinese is NOT something I will tolerate for many things. HKDL is about it :rolleyes1

Looking forward to the actual MACAU....pre-casinos popcorn::

What a surprise!!! ;)

Given that you practically told me NOT to go to Macau, I'm pretty sure you won't see anything else coming up to appeal. :p



No surprise that you got lost at The Venetian. We stayed there for a night and we got lost every time we left our room! And the staff weren't any help, nobody could ever give us directions. It was so frustrating! I would love to go back to Macau as unfortunately we experienced the torrential rain there as well so we didn't get to see everything that we wanted to, but I would not stay at The Venetian again.

We went to Macau before HKDL so it was our first experience of Mainland Chinese. We had the exact same scenario at immigration. The pushing and shoving was unbelievable!

I could easily go back to the historic part of Macau myself. We didn't cover everything either.


I have always wanted to visit Macau, I have seen a lot of wonderful food come out that region. The tarts look and sound divine, the creaminess part is always a draw for me.

::yes:: Maybe you might get to see more later. :thumbsup2


I still have a lot to cover from your TR. I enjoy all of your pics from your trip, the ones that I really enjoy the most are the aerial photos when you and your family are in the towers and cable cars.

Thanks Bret.



My next six vacations are pre-planned. Even if I make this number seven, it will take 5-10 years. I'd meet you there. How does say 2019 sound?

2019? Let me check my calendar and get back to you.

Wait....I don't have a 2019 calendar yet.

:lmao:



A busy day to start feeling ill, what a pity. Love the sound of those Portuguese tarts-one of my favourites. The Venetian must be the same company right? as though bigger I couldn't get over how it seemed an exact copy of the Venetian in Vegas. Seems like touring Macau would be easiest to do on a tour rather than by yourself to get about the different attractions? Eagerly awaiting more...(get back to work Wendy-I am on a coffee break whilst working from home today-yaay!)

Sadly, the rest of my trip was tinged with sickness which really was a shame. There was a few more things I wanted to do in Hong Kong but didn't get round to it.

The Venetian and the majority of the casinos in Macau are owned and run by the same companies that own and run casinos in Vegas.

I do think we did cover more ground with wheels but there are heaps of places to go visit in Macau that you can do by walking. I have to admit that I hadn't planned on seeing anything more than a walk round the historic centre if we had gone by ourselves and entered through the port on the Peninsula. So, it worked out really great for us.
 
What a surprise!!! ;)

Given that you practically told me NOT to go to Macau, I'm pretty sure you won't see anything else coming up to appeal. :p

::yes::

You're showing me why I said that :lmao:
This falls higher than anywhere in the Middle East...just above Vegas :cool2:

I will find it INTERESTING...just saying it's not where I want to go popcorn::

Oh...and your son has admiral goals :thumbsup2

I'm a sucker for tall buildings. Chicago...oh how I miss you :sad1:
 
::yes::

You're showing me why I said that :lmao:
This falls higher than anywhere in the Middle East...just above Vegas :cool2:

I will find it INTERESTING...just saying it's not where I want to go popcorn::

:) Always a good day when you can help someone else.
 
Since 1488



We had visited the Venetian casino and the Macau Tower in Macau thus far. Interesting as both stops were, they were both icons of modern Macau and not quite the experience I was looking for. However, because we had arrived at Taipa, they were logical stops for us to visit on our way to Macau Peninsula.

We got back on our wheels and headed off to our next stop. We were dropped off here…and our first experience of the distinctive wave pattern in cobblestone that we would find in Macau.

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Approximately four hundred years ago the Portuguese landed on a sea promontory near a temple. They asked the local inhabitants the name of the land, but the locals misunderstood, thinking that the Portuguese were asking for the name of the temple. So they answered 'A Ma Gok', which was the name of the temple. Later, the Portuguese translated the named into 'Macau' and used it to refer to the land. So, this temple – the A Ma temple – was the reason behind the name Macau. The temple has been here since 1488.

According to legend, A-Ma, a poor girl looking for passage to Canton was turned away by wealthy junk owners. Instead a poor fisherman took her on board. Shortly after a storm blew up, wrecking all the junks but leaving the fishing boat unscathed. When it returned to the Inner Harbour, A-Ma walked to the top of the nearby Barra Hill and, in glowing aura of light, ascended to heaven. In her honour, the fisherman built a temple on the spot where they landed.



We entered through the Gate Pavilion.

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A succession of pavilions are aligned with the main gate which leads to the Prayer Hall located in front of the Hall of Benevolence.

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There is a large rock engraved with a traditional sailing junk at the entrance. The temple is dedicated to Tin Hau or Mazu, the Goddess of the Sea and Seafarers. A Ma is the informal way of addressing Mazu. There were people praying at the prayer table to Tin Hau; so this is the closest I was getting.

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The A-Ma Temple consists of a bewildering number of prayer halls and pavilions connected by winding paths through moon gates and tiny gardens.
Built at various times, the various pavilions are dedicated to the worship of different deities. Whilst we were travelling with Buddhist and ex-Buddhist practitioners in our party, they all scattered in the various directions to pay appropriate respects to the different deities. We were left on our own to explore; so I wasn’t entirely sure of the layout.

We did find the Prayer or Wish tree.

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This courtyard was outside a major pavilion, the entry is located to the left of the picture.

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There were a heap of people praying in here.

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Notice the boy in the picture? He’s rubbing a Resonance Bowl. Assuming you have the right touch, rubbing the handles on the bowl will change the frequency of the waves in the bowl. The aim is to produce spouts of water from four points or nodes in the bowl. You might find similar bowls in Science museums these days and I only remember seeing someone create the water spouts once in my life.

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Incense has been used as a method of purifying the surroundings, bringing forth an assembly of buddhas, bodhisattvas, gods, demons, and the like. Take a look at those huge coils in the temple!

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Worshipers at the temples will also light and burn sticks of incense or joss sticks in small or large bundles, which they wave or raise above the head while bowing to the statues or plaques of a deity or an ancestor.

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Individual sticks of incense are then vertically placed into individual incense holders located in front of the statues or plaques either singularly or in threes, depending on the status of the deity or the feelings of the individual. The temple included the appropriate incense holders. This one looked rather old to me.

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I also found this one elsewhere in the temple. The joss sticks were definitely grouped mostly in threes.

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Many Chinese traditionally believe that the deceased will have 'material' or earthly objects materialise when burnt, for their use in their afterlife in hell. Some say this practice sprung from the ancient Chinese's attachment to life such that they believe there must be life in equivalent in another world after death. The idea of using burning is to "dematerialise" objects so that they too can "materialise" in the other world. Many temples will have similar type ovens for this practise.

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The Stupa was originally used to hold the remains of Buddha or another sacred relic. These days there are multiple uses for it. The stupa here is constructed along the lines of a pagoda and when I asked the Buddhists in my Party@12, they seemed to think that this was more for symbolic purposes. But they didn’t know for sure.

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The A Ma Temple is located at the foot of the Barra Hill with some of the pavilions located up the hill.

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We just kept following the path upwards.

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There were shrines like this dotted along the way. This one was a shrine dedicated to Buddha.

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And still we climbed.

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This was the uppermost shrine.

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This top shrine was honouring Kun Lam or Guanyin, the Goddess of Mercy. We'd already seen her at the Tian Tan Monastery.

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What goes up, must come down.

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And still more pavilions.

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The roof tiles were more beautiful than this picture shows.

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I was really fascinated with the fact that bananas were growing here. It must get rather hot and humid in summer.

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There were a number of moon gates that we walked though before we headed on out.

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In 2005, the temple became one of the designated sites of the Historic Centre of Macau enlisted on UNESCO World Heritage List. Whilst it isn’t the oldest site in the world I’ve ever visited, it is one of the oldest I’ve been to in Asia.

Since 1488. The A-Ma temple already existed before the city of Macau came into being. It may be of interest to note that in Cantonese, Macau is Ou Mun, translating to “gateway to the bay”. It does make you wonder what Macau could have been called today if those fishermen of the past had provided a different answer.



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Around Barra Temple Square



I’d certainly enjoyed the time we’d spent at the A Ma Temple and enjoying the incensed air there.

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Outside in Temple Square, in front of the A Ma temple, there was a large temporary pavilion being constructed. I never found out what it was going to be used for but I suspect that this was in preparation for Buddha’s birthday, which is at the end of April. Bamboo scaffolding is very popular!

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At one corner of the square was the Maritime Museum. I didn’t seem to have gotten a picture of it; but the museum is built on the spot believed to be where the Portuguese first landed.

At the opposite corner is this building. The Macau Governor used to live here. It is now the administration building for the maritime museum.

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I headed down the alley to the right of the Governor’s House.

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The architecture here was familiar but different at the same time.

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I do remember lots of terrace houses from my childhood.

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But none of them were ever this colour.

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Cacado de Barra has at least two other claim to fame. I stopped by this shop – the first Koi Kei shop in Macau.

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Their fortunes are based on making almond cakes or biscuits. One of the shop attendants kindly let me take this picture of the uncooked biscuits….

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….and then showed me another tray of the cooked biscuits.

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Another chinese favourite was also being sold here….chinese style jerky.
Yoke Korn (dry meat) or Long Yoke (Dragon Meat) is grilled over a charcoal brazier and is a combination of sweet and salty. Unlike American jerky which is chewier, the meat is really tender and soft.

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It was at this stage that we needed to leave the area. One of the issues of being in a ‘tour group’ is that your time is not really your own. I wish I’d taken note of the time more….as I missed out on seeing the Moorish Barracks, which I believe was around the corner. I also gather that you could walk from the here back to the historic centre of town. In any event, I was not in the right physical shape that day to walk that day. Something for next time.


Our travelling wheels was ready to push on to the next destination.




princess::upsidedow
 
Thanks for the picture of the jerky. We were amused at the shopkeepers in Macau who were standing outside their shops offering free samples of it, but only to Asian people! Every time we approached they stopped offering, some even turned their backs on us! :confused3 We figured that maybe it was an acquired taste that they thought us westerners wouldn't be able to handle!
 
Reminds me of Singapore...
While much smaller, the temples in Chinatown in Singapore had the same 'feeling' I get looking at this...
 
In 2005, the temple became one of the designated sites of the Historic Centre of Macau enlisted on UNESCO World Heritage List. Whilst it isn’t the oldest site in the world I’ve ever visited, it is one of the oldest I’ve been to in Asia.

Since 1488. The A-Ma temple already existed before the city of Macau came into being. It may be of interest to note that in Cantonese, Macau is Ou Mun, translating to “gateway to the bay”. It does make you wonder what Macau could have been called today if those fishermen of the past had provided a different answer.


That is very cool I love going to older cities and learning about the history.

The oldest place I have been to is Tallin Estonia, the fort was built there in 1050.
 
I'm really enjoying the pictures of the temple and the tie in with the Portuguese history.
 
I've heard many fables similar to that one. The one that pops into my head is from Disney's version of Beauty and the Beast (only no one dies since it is Disney). This update is precisely why I need to travel to other countries. You never see anything like that here. There are so many beautiful and old things there. I want to see if I can create a spout of water. At least you saw it done once. That's cool. When I think of incense, I always think of my Uncle. He was our live in babysitter when I was younger (because my Mom was gone and Dad had to work). Daily, he would smoke marijuana in his room and try to cover the smell or claim the smell was incense. My Dad bought that story for a long time. All of us kids knew better. :lmao:
 
Thanks for the picture of the jerky. We were amused at the shopkeepers in Macau who were standing outside their shops offering free samples of it, but only to Asian people! Every time we approached they stopped offering, some even turned their backs on us! :confused3 We figured that maybe it was an acquired taste that they thought us westerners wouldn't be able to handle!

WOW! How rude! :confused3

But did you get to try any in the end? If so, I hope you and your family liked it. It is one of my favourite foods. Lucky for me, there's a chain called Jerky House that sells it here so I can partake when I want.


Reminds me of Singapore...
While much smaller, the temples in Chinatown in Singapore had the same 'feeling' I get looking at this...

Yes, it is not unlike other Buddhist temples in South East Asia. And having been to a couple of temples in Melbourne, I would think that most Buddhist temples around the world have the same feeling....and smell. :rolleyes:



In 2005, the temple became one of the designated sites of the Historic Centre of Macau enlisted on UNESCO World Heritage List. Whilst it isn’t the oldest site in the world I’ve ever visited, it is one of the oldest I’ve been to in Asia.

Since 1488. The A-Ma temple already existed before the city of Macau came into being. It may be of interest to note that in Cantonese, Macau is Ou Mun, translating to “gateway to the bay”. It does make you wonder what Macau could have been called today if those fishermen of the past had provided a different answer.


That is very cool I love going to older cities and learning about the history.

The oldest place I have been to is Tallin Estonia, the fort was built there in 1050.

There are some American Indian sites in the US that is older than this. Perhaps you might have been to older sites at home?

Some of the Aboriginal sites in Australia go back 10,000 - 20,000 BC.


I'm really enjoying the pictures of the temple and the tie in with the Portuguese history.

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it still.


I've heard many fables similar to that one. The one that pops into my head is from Disney's version of Beauty and the Beast (only no one dies since it is Disney). This update is precisely why I need to travel to other countries. You never see anything like that here. There are so many beautiful and old things there. I want to see if I can create a spout of water. At least you saw it done once. That's cool. When I think of incense, I always think of my Uncle. He was our live in babysitter when I was younger (because my Mom was gone and Dad had to work). Daily, he would smoke marijuana in his room and try to cover the smell or claim the smell was incense. My Dad bought that story for a long time. All of us kids knew better. :lmao:

Far out! :hippie:


My dad once found a heap of pot plants growing in a deserted spot. He thought the plant looked nice and because there were so many, he...er..took one home. It was, afterall, a very deserted spot.

He watered it and tended it for the better part of 2 months. And was really pleased when it started to flower. He showed it to me when it was flowering and I had to break the news to him that he was growing marijuana.

He didn't believe me until I brought my compendium of plants out. I've never seen him move so fast to get rid of something!
Shame, really. We could have easily started a fire and burnt the evidence instead. :rolleyes1
 
No, we never tasted the jerky. We were amused that nobody would offer it to us though! I was glad to see it in your report so that now I know what it actually was!

Love that story about your dad :rotfl2:
 

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