Banned From Disney?

[harmonium]

There have been a few threads regarding people being banned from the parks and how that is the ultimate punishment for simply evil guests. I agree that no longer being allowed to visit WDW is a punishment that I would hate to receive, but I was wondering how Disney enforces the bannishment of guests who REALLY misbehave.

Does anyone here know how Disney enforces this type of punishment?

Does anyone have a possible solution or even an outright ridiculous one?

 

[Cheshire Figment]

I know they take pictures and get a lot of identifying informaiton about the person. They will give them a letter, and make them sign for receipt fo the letter, warning them that if they are ever caught on Disney Property they will be turned over to the Sheriff's Office with a charge of Criminal Trespass.

 

[DancingBear]

Then of course there's the transmitter that Disney security people implant in their skulls.

 

[MJMcBride]

I've heard of people being forced to ride Its a Small World for 8 straight hours

 

[#1_Grumpy_Fan]

8 hours straight!!!! Are you kidding. I'm never ever going to get tossed out of WDW.

 

[rodkenrich]

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[harmonium]

So being banned is sort of something you could get around as long as you paid for everything in cash and kept on your best behavior. Unless the micro-chip idea is more fact than fiction. I imagine that keeping you photo on file is a good idea, but I wonder how well the records are kept and who actually does the identification of the suspects.

I don't remember having to use the finger print scanner to get into the parks this year. I am not sure if we did it last year either. Did they do away with that? That would be a pretty good tool to use to identify any banned people.

8 hours on small world. What is that, like 48 or so times around? I might yank out my hair after the 3rd. By the 5th I'd be out of the car playing in the African Safari. I wonder what the punishment for that would be?

 

[CanadianGuy]

The finger scanner would be a very poor tool to use to keep people out of the parks beacuse its not a finger print.

It's a math algorhtym based on the imagery of the finger.. that is very loose and the way it's currently done, it's only unique to about one in 1000 people. So.. it wouldn't work to identify previously banned people.

Knox

 

[harmonium]

The finger scanner would be a very poor tool to use to keep people out of the parks beacuse its not a finger print.

It's a math algorhtym based on the imagery of the finger.. that is very loose and the way it's currently done, it's only unique to about one in 1000 people. So.. it wouldn't work to identify previously banned people.

Knox

Thanks. I had no idea.

 

[TSR6]

Yep, The bio-metrics really only take your size & structure of the measured area into account. They don't take actual finger print data.

The only reason it works so well is that the likely hood of having two people match exactly isn't all that high, but the likely hood of having those people who do match swap tickets is so slim it's not even funny.

It's the same with the key to your house. Someone has a key that matches the key to your house, or is close enough to unlock it. The reason your house is secure though, is that the chances of the right person having the right key is slim. Same with the tickets - the chances of the right person buying a used ticket, stealing your ticket, or picking your ticket up off the ground AND matching your biometrics is pretty slim.

I think you have a better chance at a one night's stay in the castle than having everything match up.

 

[GregC]

I'm all for anything Disney wants to do to keep these scum out of the parks anyway.If you do something that bad to get detained and have your info searched and pictures taken that means you did something disrespectful enough to warrant it and obviously you shouldn't be in the park and/or hate the whole concept of Disneyland etc..so good riddance anyway!

 

[remain seated please]

I'm all for banning real troublemakers, but enforcement is another issue. I don't see how it would be possible to enforce such a ban. And I don't think threatening someone with criminal tresspassing would work either. Disney would have to get some sort of a restraining order and then spend lots of time focusing on finding one individual out of thousands in their parks.

 

[harmonium]

I'm all for banning real troublemakers, but enforcement is another issue. I don't see how it would be possible to enforce such a ban. And I don't think threatening someone with criminal tresspassing would work either. Disney would have to get some sort of a restraining order and then spend lots of time focusing on finding one individual out of thousands in their parks.

From what I have read about being banned it is almost like the trouble maker will not return to Disney on their word. If they are caught it is a different story and then there are the consequences, but whose to say how Disney would find out they are even in the park(s)? I know I'm making a leap of assumptions here, but if you are the type to misbehave enough to get banned from WDW then I doubt you are going to be honest enough to not sneak back in.

Does anyone know of an example of someone getting banned or what the criteria is for getting banned?

 

[rocketriter]

In the late 70s, when only MK was open, a friend and I were watching the electric parade when we smelled something, um, herbal in the air. About the same time that we realized it was coming from two young women near us in the crowd, a CM with a walkie-talkie gathered up all four of us and marched us into a building, down stairs into the utilidors, and into Disney Security, which was concrete blocks and plastic furniture. We had a scary moment when an employee asked the girls their ages and they said "14" (we were in our 30's!), and we realized things could go badly for us -- out-of-state men in the company of minors, etc. Fortunately, the girls were honest about not knowing us. We were released and, because the episode took several hours, we were given free passes to MK for the next day. The girls' parents, however, were phoned at the Contemporary and told that the family had to pack up and leave immediately. I have no idea how WDW planned to track this family in the future, but it was clear they were not welcome back.

 

[agnes!]

If the banned people return to WDW, they probably would not be complete angels. Their criminal (say, something like shoplifting or pick-pocketing) or anti-social (say, for instance, yelling at or assaulting other guests) behavior would in all likelihood return. And, let's face it...if someone is stupid enough or nasty enough to be 'banned', they are probably already eligible for some Darwin or Stupid Criminal Awards.

Then when they are being processed by Security for their new crimes/behavior, their names/ID would come up in the computers and, in addition to everything else, they could then be charged with criminal trespassing (since on their last visit they signed that letter).

I suppose that if they attempted to buy tickets in their own names, that they could probably be denied entry.

agnes!

 

[I'mNoPrince]

Well I know for a fact that Camera could be set up at several locations ( Turnstyles and so forth) that could do face scans and compair quickly to a Database.

Watch the Show Vegas is has it on all the time and where the time line of how fast it takes is not acurit it's still very feasable.

I don't know if they use this but I know it's out there for use.

I think it's more of having them arrested for trespass as stated earlier as an easier corse of action.

 

[suzimar57]

how stupid those 2 girls were!!

 

[TCWEST09]

There have been a few threads regarding people being banned from the parks and how that is the ultimate punishment for simply evil guests. I agree that no longer being allowed to visit WDW is a punishment that I would hate to receive, but I was wondering how Disney enforces the bannishment of guests who REALLY misbehave.

Does anyone here know how Disney enforces this type of punishment?

Does anyone have a possible solution or even an outright ridiculous one?

I have seen people use kids tickets when the kids are in their teens and they have said nothing about this. You must do something really bad to get booted. They do have fingerprints on tickets now and this could be how they keep people out of the parks.

 

[CanadianGuy]

I have seen people use kids tickets when the kids are in their teens and they have said nothing about this. You must do something really bad to get booted. They do have fingerprints on tickets now and this could be how they keep people out of the parks.

If those tickets were purchased when the child was under 9 this is Disney policy. They will allow those tickets to be used until gone - regardless of the age of the original ticket holder.

If I had a park hopper with an unused day on it from when I was 8 years old -(ha I wish)- I could trade that in today for 1 adult park admission and go to the park(s) of my choice... and 38 now.

 

[harmonium]

how stupid those 2 girls were!!

14 and high seems like a ripe combination for doing stupid things. Honestly, I wonder what goes through someones head when they decide to smoke in public? Do they really think that no one else can smell it? It has a pretty distinctive aroma that most people can easily detect.