Rude adults

[kimis]

I just got back from a trip to DL with my son, daughter in law and the three of my grandchildren. We had a blast for the most part.
You wouldn't believe some of the adults we came accross
My 5 year old granddaughter was honestly putting her leg into an astro jet for the ride when an adult women literally came over and pushed her out so she could have the jet. She wanted to be close to her friend who was behind my granddaughter. I was coming up from the other side and saw the whole thing. I hollered out that the child was there first but the lady just put her head down and covered her face with her hair. Yes my granddaughter found another jet to get in but really? I was so shocked! If I wouldn't have seen it I may not have believed it.
I told my granddaughter that I was sorry that happened and maybe the lady was just having a bad day.

 

[4bugzinarug]

Wow! Some people. I really think that being @ Disneyland intensifies the cluelessness of certain personaility types. Maybe if the woman covered her face with her hair she realized what she had done and was slightly embarassed? Hopefully

How wonderful that you went with your grandchildren!! My kids went the first time with my parents, it was such a special thing for them!

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

That's really SAD and disgusting. Where were the CMs? Didn't they notice the commotion? I'm really surprised that they didn't ask the person to get off the ride -- that was just RUDE! If I ever saw an adult stranger put their hands on my kid when he was that age, they would have had h-e- double l to pay. She's just lucky your grandaughter didn't immediately start screaming about this adult stranger hurting her or touching her. She would've been in deep you-know-what then!
It was really ignorant of her to do that. Hello? She's the adult. It wouldn't have killed her to go on another jet. I know Disney brings out the kid in most of us, but geez...

 

[Albort]

That's really SAD and disgusting. Where were the CMs? Didn't they notice the commotion? I'm really surprised that they didn't ask the person to get off the ride -- that was just RUDE! If I ever saw an adult stranger put their hands on my kid when he was that age, they would have had h-e- double l to pay. She's just lucky your grandaughter didn't immediately start screaming about this adult stranger hurting her or touching her. She would've been in deep you-know-what then!
It was really ignorant of her to do that. Hello? She's the adult. It wouldn't have killed her to go on another jet. I know Disney brings out the kid in most of us, but geez...

CMs cant catch everything my friend. Most likely, the CM was still controlling the line going into the ride and didnt see it...

Your best choice would either to A) let it go, or B) tell a CM about it if there isnt another one left...

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

CMs cant catch everything my friend. Most likely, the CM was still controlling the line going into the ride and didnt see it...

Your best choice would either to A) let it go, or B) tell a CM about it if there isnt another one left...

You're right. And I hope you didn't take that as a personal attack on CMs. Obviously they can't be everywhere all the time.
Ultimately, the rude adult was just wrong to grab a complete stranger (who also happened to be a young child). Would she have grabbed an adult that way? I think most Disneylovers have the ability to let things go, but when it comes to an adult stranger putting their grubby hands on a child they don't know...Uh uh. That's where I would draw the line. (Especially if it were my child.)
Honestly, if it were reported to a CM after the fact, what, if anything could have been done? If it wasn't witnessed by the CM, it would be one person's word against the other's. The other person had an adult friend with her who could easily lie to cover for her friend. (Sad to say, but it happens.) I'm afraid that this type of behavior is becoming more commonplace everywhere. And that's sad.

 

[Albort]

You're right. And I hope you didn't take that as a personal attack on CMs. Obviously they can't be everywhere all the time.
Ultimately, the rude adult was just wrong to grab a complete stranger (who also happened to be a young child). Would she have grabbed an adult that way? I think most Disneylovers have the ability to let things go, but when it comes to an adult stranger putting their grubby hands on a child they don't know...Uh uh. That's where I would draw the line. (Especially if it were my child.)
Honestly, if it were reported to a CM after the fact, what, if anything could have been done? If it wasn't witnessed by the CM, it would be one person's word against the other's. The other person had an adult friend with her who could easily lie to cover for her friend. (Sad to say, but it happens.) I'm afraid that this type of behavior is becoming more commonplace everywhere. And that's sad.

I didnt really mean to give you that impression to be honest... as a ex Knotts Berry Farm Ride Operator, i would usually kick the lady off the ride if it was bad... if not, id just take either the adult back into line OR let the granddaughter and family wait outside the exit and have them get first pick of the rocket before letting in the general line...

 

[tinkerbelt]

We saw two families get into a fight over the front car on the monorail the other night. I am not sure who got there first, but there were two families, and the CM told them that it was first come, first served. One family got in, and the mom from the other family yelled at them to get some manners, and the dad from the other family got out and yelled that they were there first, and she needed to get some manners, and that she could go screw herself. The mom started ranting, and her husband was like "it's not a big deal, let's just sit back there", but she dragged her kids and stormed off (her entire family looked annoyed, like they just wanted to get on the monorail). We ended up waiting for the next monorail, and the angry mom and her family showed up with a supervisor in tow, who told the CMs at the monorail that they had to let the family ride in the front - which sucked for the family who had already been waiting for the front row. I mean honestly, I don't see the big deal. The monorail comes every couple of minutes, and you honestly don't see anything in the front that you don't see from everywhere else. It's not worth getting upset about.

On Saturday night, I was taking DD to see Fantasmic for her birthday, and on the way there, we got surrounded by a family with two ECV's and a stroller, and they were using all 3 to shove their way through the crowd and push people out of the way. The woman driving the ECV tried to shove past my DD (who is only 4), and she ran over her foot in the process. She didn't even bother to stop or say sorry, she just said something to her friend about how people needed to get out of her way, and then she took off. DD was unable to walk, and instead of watching Fantasmic on her birthday, she had to sit in the first aid station while the nurse checked her foot. She is ok now, but she could not walk for the rest of the night, and we ended up not getting to watch Fantasmic or ride Pirates - which were the two things that she wanted to do most for her birthday.

 

[Lostgirlz]

I can't believe an adult with the sense, and knowledge would treat a child that way, and even more so in a public theme park like Disneyland. I know the excitement and magic of Disney can be overwhelming, but not to the point you start knocking down little ones. I am sorry that happened she's lucky it was not my child, cause heh covering her face wouldnt have saved her from some choice words I would have had for her.

 

[inkkognito]

I personally like to use the embarrassment element with people like that (this must be done in a very loud but calm/incredulous voice vs. hysterical ranting): "You just pushed a child! Wow, I can't believe it, a big adult like you actually pushed a child! An adult, and you actually put your hands on my child...it's illegal and you still did it...I am shocked that you dared to touch a child!" etc. etc. She'd freakin' well have reason to hide behind her hair because I'd make sure that everyone in the vicinity was looking at her with scorn.

 

[Carter'sMommy]

We were at MTTM and waiting for the ceremonies to start (approx 10 mins. before showtime) So DH and myself got 2 seats (plenty of open seats as there were just a few people starting to gather) and headed over 20 feet to set them up at vacant table that had no seats. We noticed that DS4 (actually 5 because it was on his Bday) was getting his own (very heavy cast iron) chair...how cute we thought.
When out of the blue this B**** (who later we find out is a mother herself) comes running up to him as he was just about to sit down and what does she do .....she pulls the chair from beneath him and he goes crashing down to the hard cement.

DH and myself jumped up to see if DS was okay and all this lady did was yell... "That d... child STOLE the chair that I WAS going to sit in"!! Once we determined that DS was okay-- I layed into the woman (calmly I might add) "Oh.... so you OWN that chair please let me see your receipt so I can confirm the purchase other wise the chair is HIS!
Now... there were 10+ other chairs in the area that she could have taken for her use. NOooooo... she had to walk over to DS and take that particular one back. ARGHHHHHhhhhhhh!
Her family was in a giftshop behind us and heard the comotion and came out, her husband tried to calm her down for getting so irate at my DS for "stealing" her chair. She just kept going on and on.. she looked like an idiot!

Well a group of CMs saw the WHOLE thing and came over to DS to make sure he was okay and started to talk to him (they noticed that he was wearing a "Happy Birthday" pin and asked how old he was and where he was from etc... after a few minutes they moved on because the show was about to start.

The MC welcomed the crowd and announced that they had a SPECIAL guest today.... it was DS!!!!!!! The MC had him come up to the stage and when he got there he had the crowd sing HB to him!! That moment was PRICELESS!!!

After it was over DH and myself just looked back at the "wicked" woman and smiled REAL big.

 

[Albort]

I personally like to use the embarrassment element with people like that (this must be done in a very loud but calm/incredulous voice vs. hysterical ranting): "You just pushed a child! Wow, I can't believe it, a big adult like you actually pushed a child! An adult, and you actually put your hands on my child...it's illegal and you still did it...I am shocked that you dared to touch a child!" etc. etc. She'd freakin' well have reason to hide behind her hair because I'd make sure that everyone in the vicinity was looking at her with scorn.

hahahahahaha... thats a good point... the kid should just start crying out loud going "THAT PERSON PUSHED ME!!! WAAAAAAAH!"

the parent would go GOOD JOB! "YOU PUSHED A KID!!!" *applause!*

would love to see the adult's reaction...

i did that once in the parking lot full of people the parents got sooo embarassed they drove away...

 

[ShawnaF]

I'm so sorry to all of you who have experienced this - and especially to the two kids who got hurt, in particular on their birthdays too! I hope the kids don't remember THOSE parts of their trips.

I don't know what's wrong with people, but yeah, it sure seems to be happening everywhere a lot more often. I can't do crowds for one of those reasons - people just start pushing and complaining and it drives me insane.

Adults...man oh man. Take deep breaths and relax!

 

[4bugzinarug]

The woman driving the ECV tried to shove past my DD (who is only 4), and she ran over her foot in the process. She didn't even bother to stop or say sorry, she just said something to her friend about how people needed to get out of her way, and then she took off. DD was unable to walk, and instead of watching Fantasmic on her birthday, she had to sit in the first aid station while the nurse checked her foot.

Jiminy! I wonder if that is the kind of situation that merits filing assault charges. OH MAN I would be livid! Your poor daughter!

As for the monorail experience, there is something about the herd/crowd mentality that makes me very nervous. You just never know when some nut job is going to go uncorked & postal over someone pushing ahead of them. That's one of the reasons we try to go in off season ... I get somewhat claustrophobic in crowds. But then, I have seen actual fights/physical assaults break out over stupid things like "I was first in line!". And that doesn't just affect the morons doing the fighting!

At a trade show in Vegas, we were in a crowd waiting for shuttle buses to take us back to the hotel. EVERYONE was tired, and had been waiting for at least an hour in line. We are talking about hundreds, possibly thousands of people waiting hours for shuttle buses to their hotels, crammed shoulder to shoulder. When we were third in line and the bus pulled up, a group of about 15-20 people traveling together pushed ahead of our line. I am telling you, I would have given ANYTHING to be out of that herd at that time. My opinion was that being "third in line" is nowhere NEAR as important as keeping cool and coming home safe to my family. An all out verbal assult took place between people both in front of us and behind us, and it nearly became a physical riot. All of this at a BUSINESS convention. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!

 

[JawsFan]

I must say that when we took the trip to California in 2003 i was disgusted with the attitude of the majority of the people i came across. We stayed @ the Radisson which is right next to Knott's Berry Farm & one morning during breakfast, me & my family were eating breakfast in the hotel restaurant and the waitress came over and told us that we needed to hurry up and eat our breakfast because there were people waiting to get on our table, this was 15 minutes after arriving for breakfast and this was not the worst attitude we experienced @ the hotel during our stay- I was not impressed with the hotel, the trip or "THE WALK OF FAME".....

 

[DisneySuiteFreak]

Well a group of CMs saw the WHOLE thing and came over to DS to make sure he was okay and started to talk to him (they noticed that he was wearing a "Happy Birthday" pin and asked how old he was and where he was from etc... after a few minutes they moved on because the show was about to start.

The MC welcomed the crowd and announced that they had a SPECIAL guest today.... it was DS!!!!!!! The MC had him come up to the stage and when he got there he had the crowd sing HB to him!! That moment was PRICELESS!!!

After it was over DH and myself just looked back at the "wicked" woman and smiled REAL big.

YAY! There is justice in this world! She must've been steaming!

 

[Albort]

well, you guys are lucky... i get rude guest TONS of times... I had this one guest cuss me out about his son... i was happy his wife smacked him in the back of the head for it... hahhahahhahaha...

Another is i know and understand Chinese... i had an grandma, a mom, and a son... so i tell them it cost $4. The grandma handed the son $2. then tells grandma that it isnt enough in chinese. the grandma said, well just give it to him and see what he would do in chinese. and started to annoy me because they were acting dumb... then i showed them 4 fingers and they finally gave in... then as usual, i said goodbye in chinese and they fleed quickly

seriously... dont ever play dumb with a CM or it might just end up on the internet

 

[bouncy54]

well, you guys are lucky... i get rude guest TONS of times... I had this one guest cuss me out about his son... i was happy his wife smacked him in the back of the head for it... hahhahahhahaha...

Another is i know and understand Chinese... i had an grandma, a mom, and a son... so i tell them it cost $4. The grandma handed the son $2. then tells grandma that it isnt enough in chinese. the grandma said, well just give it to him and see what he would do in chinese. and started to annoy me because they were acting dumb... then i showed them 4 fingers and they finally gave in... then as usual, i said goodbye in chinese and they fleed quickly

seriously... dont ever play dumb with a CM or it might just end up on the internet

I had several people do the same thing at my yard sales this summer They pretended not to understand English then get the shock of their lives when my DH's uncle lets them know that he understands their Spanish perfectly.

Come on people...Most of us know that tres = 3, not 1...we're not all dumb Yankee Americans!

 

[Hound 109]

...... the grandma said, well just give it to him and see what he would do in chinese. and started to annoy me because they were acting dumb... then i showed them 4 fingers and they finally gave in... then as usual, i said goodbye in chinese and they fleed quickly

seriously... dont ever play dumb with a CM or it might just end up on the internet

That's classic, Albort. Good for you.


hound -

 

[Hambletfamily]

We were there over 4th of July and seen plenty of rudeness especially riding the shuttle. Everyone should have gotten in a line. No they basically crowded so the people whom should have gotten on first were almost last. That happened to us 1 time. The next times we actually pushed back.

Another time I seen rude people was in character lines especially on main street if there is not CM - People cut and almost jump into your pictures. I was standing in line waiting to see Minnie and it seemed like every child was cutting in front of me. Of course the parents shoving them. I just think it's plain rude.

 

[kiwitravel]

Another time I seen rude people was in character lines especially on main street if there is not CM - People cut and almost jump into your pictures. I was standing in line waiting to see Minnie and it seemed like every child was cutting in front of me. Of course the parents shoving them. I just think it's plain rude.

We experienced this too, but I politely told people that there is a line and you have to wait back there and pointed to the end of the line. Most of the time I was the only one speaking out and thats why these people keep doing this.... because it works for them. Its arrogance and selfishness and a belief that they are somehow more important than everyone else.

There is safety in numbers if more people speak out or even just support those that are speaking out then perhaps society can change these people. If I had seen some of the things posted on this thread I would have spoken out to support the person wronged, not get into a shouting match, just been there to help where I could and back the person wronged.

As said in a previous thread on this issue though, the world is a dangerous place and above all else keep safe. DL is a safe place, the parking lot of a 7/11 is not.