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lucky978
11-11-2005, 02:42 PM
I have a great picture (digital) of my girls I want to use for a Christmas Card. Unfortunately, they both have MAJOR red-eye.

I've used the red-eye reduction in the kodakgallery.com and snapfish.com programs, but both do a horrible job. Basically making the eyes too black.

Is there a cheap program I could get to do this? OR would anyone be willing to do this for me?

Thank you so much!!!

Jacki

Muushka
11-11-2005, 03:12 PM
Sometimes I will use the person's (or someone else in the pic) brown hair instead of the red eye feature in the software. If you want to email it to me (and hopefully others will volunteer and you can choose the best!) I will be glad to try to get that old red eye out. Barb

Goofyish
11-11-2005, 03:17 PM
The redeye removel tool in Photoshop CS2 works a treat :)

The one in PaintShopPro also is very good - you can select the eye colour etc. to replace the red with :)

Dan Murphy
11-11-2005, 03:20 PM
.........Is there a cheap program I could get to do this? .......Check this out, Jacki...........

http://picasa.google.com/index.html

MICKEY88
11-12-2005, 12:40 AM
I have a great picture (digital) of my girls I want to use for a Christmas Card. Unfortunately, they both have MAJOR red-eye.

I've used the red-eye reduction in the kodakgallery.com and snapfish.com programs, but both do a horrible job. Basically making the eyes too black.

Is there a cheap program I could get to do this? OR would anyone be willing to do this for me?

Thank you so much!!!

Jacki
I'd be more than happy to do it for you, I just got PAint Shop Pro X and have been spending hours playing with it, the new touchup tools are awesome...

feel free to email it and I'll get rid of that ole redeye for you

pmcf
11-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Guess you have this sorted now, but if not email it on and I will do it (using CS)

cryssi
01-12-2006, 12:27 PM
Hi again,

Anyone know if it's possible to reduce red eye on an SD400? I've tried the red eye setting and auto setting, but unless you are close to your subject, devil eyes! LOL

Also, I use the red eye corrector in Photoshop CS2, but since it grays out the red, sometimes it looks a little weird...

just wondering...thanks!

AZ JazzyJ
01-12-2006, 01:41 PM
If you can move the flash above or below the lens plane it will reduce the majority red eye. If the flash is built into the camera that obviously won't work.

In Photoshop, after you eliminate the red eye try using the burn tool to turn the gray darker and the eyes won't have that odd stoner look (stoner as in rock not druggy).

Jeff

cryssi
01-12-2006, 04:00 PM
thanks...that's what you get when you try to be a photographer with a p&s...

Kelly Grannell
01-12-2006, 05:33 PM
not only P/S you'll get the same effect even if you're using dSLR. It's not the camera, it's the subject.

itslisa
01-21-2006, 04:39 PM
Well, I hope this is the right place to post this ... but I would like to do SOMETHING about the red eye in my pics! I do have a red-eye option on my camera and I used it. I still have quite a few (most) pics with red eye. It's VERY irritating and the thing I like least about my camera.

So ... #1 - any ideas on how to reduce it in the future? I have an Olympus C-765 Ultra Zoom

#2 - How do you edit out red-eye? I've tried to do it and failed miserably in the past.


Thanks in advance for your help!

Yellow_Stitch
01-21-2006, 05:48 PM
The red eye reduction feature in your camera fires a burst of lights at the subject before firing the flash as the shutter opens and takes the picture. This "pre-flash" forces the subjects pupils to contract. You can also have the subject look at a light before you shoot. Having said that, how often are your shots so scripted to have time to ask them to do this? For me the answer is never. A problem with the red eye feature on the camera is that it usually confuses the person you're shooting-they think the picture is being snapped at the first light. Because of this I don't even use the red eye feature on my digital, I just fix it after the fact. I don't know if you've tried Picasa, but it has a very easy to use red eye remover. You just drag a box around the red eye and hit the button. If it still shows a bit red, do it one more time. It's free download. http://www.picasa.com/google/
Not sure which program you've used that gave you poor results, but I'm sure someone here can help you use it better. I like the microsoft Digital Image Suite Program too.

elizke
01-21-2006, 06:13 PM
What software do you currently use?

E.

fiffy
01-21-2006, 07:14 PM
The red eye reduction feature in your camera fires a burst of lights at the subject before firing the flash as the shutter opens and takes the picture. This "pre-flash" forces the subjects pupils to contract. You can also have the subject look at a light before you shoot. Having said that, how often are your shots so scripted to have time to ask them to do this? For me the answer is never. A problem with the red eye feature on the camera is that it usually confuses the person you're shooting-they think the picture is being snapped at the first light. Because of this I don't even use the red eye feature on my digital, I just fix it after the fact. I don't know if you've tried Picasa, but it has a very easy to use red eye remover. You just drag a box around the red eye and hit the button. If it still shows a bit red, do it one more time. It's free download. http://www.picasa.com/google/
Not sure which program you've used that gave you poor results, but I'm sure someone here can help you use it better. I like the microsoft Digital Image Suite Program too.

When it comes to Red Eye in photographs it is totaly dependant to the angel of the flash and the lense. Just about every point and shoot camera WILL give you red eye. The red eye reduction feature on point and shoot camera are just that, REDUCTION. Its not elimination. As for how it works look at the quote above, it is described very nicely there. ;) One other problem with the red eye reduction feature is that it reduces the power of your flash leading you to a higher probablity of getting under exposed photographs. Also, with most programs on the market if the color in the eye is not red (and with digitol cameras specificly I've seen orange, yellow, and white as well as red) then they can't get rid of it. So for the most part, you are better off turning your red eye reduction off as your going to get it one way or another and it actually can screw up your photo more then help it. Not to mention the issue of peoples reaction to it as mentioned above in the quote. One more thing about red eye, people with light color eyes WILL get it alot more then people with dark color eyes. Blue eyed people and light green eyed people are almost guarenteed to get it. Now, if your shooting with an SLR camera with an external flash the angle is severely different and you are very unlikely to get red eye. Put that flash up on a bracket and your will not get it at all.

itslisa
01-22-2006, 10:50 PM
omg! pICASA IS great! i HAD IT ALREADY AND DIDN'T REALIZE i COULD USE IT FOR THIS!!! (sorry about the caps!)

I am FLYING through fixing my pics! Thanks!!!!

LordAthens
01-22-2006, 10:52 PM
LOL.

Everytime I tell one of my friends about Picasa, they give the same reaction. Picasa is the win. :)

SplshMtn99
10-12-2006, 10:33 PM
OK, I've had a couple of Olympus digital camera before this Canon S3.

The Olympus red eye flash does what I call a "pre-flash" then takes a photo a noticeably time AFTER the flash. You almost need to warn people, don't move after the flash, wait for the camera to take the photo. It does a good job of elimating red-eye.

OK, this being my first Canon....the red-eye doesn't seem to work that way. :confused3 No matter how I have the settings, the flash seems to go off right about the same time as shutter. :confused3 I haven't had any people around to test red-eye on....but all my cat pictures have bad green-eye.

So.....wondering, do I have a defective red-eye setting on my new S3? Does Canon red-eye flash just work different in timing with shutter as opposed to Olympus's pre-flash?

Maybe cat green eye has nothing to do with red-eye. If not, what can I do to avoid cat green eye.

Anyone? Thanks.

Madi100
10-12-2006, 11:11 PM
I was just at Best Buy today and when the saleman put the red eye feature on, the flash did two quick little flashes. However, he said to only use the red eye feature if you are outside or away from fluorescent lights. It is easier to fix the red eye than it is to fix what that feature will do to the coloring of your photo in odd coloring and fluorescent lighting.

SplshMtn99
10-12-2006, 11:31 PM
2 quick little flashes? Hmmmm, hard to tell if any difference in the with & with-out red eye flashes. Would you say it was easily noticeable? But of course, now I'm blinded & can't see anything. :rotfl:

Groucho
10-13-2006, 10:24 AM
I was just at Best Buy today and when the saleman put the red eye feature on, the flash did two quick little flashes. However, he said to only use the red eye feature if you are outside or away from fluorescent lights. It is easier to fix the red eye than it is to fix what that feature will do to the coloring of your photo in odd coloring and fluorescent lighting.
???

That doesn't make any sense. To do what he's claiming, the camera would have to use a different white balance setting when the red-eye is compared to when it's not. Many cameras have a hard time adjusting to indoor lighting unless you manually set it, but red-eye shouldn't have anything to do with it - it's just supposed to shrink the pupils to make them less reflective.

The problem, as you may or may not know, comes when the flash is too close to the lens, as happens more and more with today's tiny cameras. That's why some cameras have flip-up flashes, to move them farther away from the lens. This problem gets worse as you get farther away from the subject, because of the angles.

As always, the best thing to do is know your camera - take a few test shots some time of a willing subject, and take from a few different distances, to see if the problem mostly goes away if you get close enough. Also try in different lighting - it doesn't cost anything to decide for yourself if the salesman knew what he was talking about. (I'm guessing that he didn't!)

ang
02-12-2007, 11:21 AM
This is my problem...My DD had her first dance...I have a lot of red eye in the pictures...

OK, I used canon red eye, it only took out one red eye.
Microsoft something...use it, took out all red eye but when I print out the picture there is still red eye!:headache:

I even used Adobe 3, same problem, :mad:

Any suggestions?

I have a Canan S3

tinksdad
02-12-2007, 01:01 PM
The best way to avoid the dreaded "Red Eye" is not use on board flash. It's caused by the reflection of the flash off the back of the retina and happens when the subject is looking right at the flash and the flash is in-line with the lens. I know that is tough when that's all you've got.

Beyond that, if you can get the subject to turn slightly when taking the picture. I know that both PhotoShop and PaintShop Pro has some very effective red-eye removal tools.

Steve's Girl
02-12-2007, 01:03 PM
I am probably the worst person to comment on photo editing since I am terrible at it. However, I can do red eye. I use Picasa2 and you actually define the red eye area that you want corrected. And the program is free! Just google Picasa2.

Be sure to save your image after correcting red eye - if you don't save, the original (with the red eye) is what will be printed.

JustinsMommy07
09-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Hi Everyone,

This is the first time that I am posting on this board. I hope someone can help. I love taking pictures, but am not a photographer by any means. I am pretty clueless when it comes to settings and things like that (I don't even know the proper terms, sorry.) I received the Olympus Stylus 850sw as a birthday gift. I thought that it would be good to have for everyday use and not have to worry about it getting wet or dropping it. Every picture that I have taken, especially of DS has redeye and it is driving me crazy. The red eye reduction flash thing doesn't eliminate it either. Is it just a crappy camera or is there something that I am doing wrong? I also have a Canon powershot A590 that does the same thing, but I am able to correct it on the camera before I download the pictures into my computer.

If anyone has any advice, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

fhirleighinn
09-11-2008, 02:16 PM
Most point and shoot cameras are really bad for red-eye, as the distance (angle) from the flash to the lens is too short (narrow).
There is not alot that you can do, but using photoshop or another program is not usually that bad for making the edits. Even windows photo gallery can fix red eye.

Ducky4Disney
09-11-2008, 06:12 PM
Does your DS have blue eyes? Lighter eye colors are prone to red-eye no matter what you do. I have brown eyes and my sister has blue eyes, she looks demonic in most pics of us together!

I wonder what would happen if you took two photos back-to-back. I know that a red-eye reduction pre-flash should help constricts the pupils, but I wonder if the second shot after a full flash would look better?

Using red-eye fixes on most editing software should do the trick.

D4D

handicap18
09-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Red eye is tough. Because of the location of the flash in relation to the lens there becomes a reflection off the back of the retina. Because the back of the retina is mostly blood vessels it gives the "red eye". You get it almost always with indoor pictures taken with a flash because while we are indoors our eyes dilate to allow more light so we can see. When a flash goes off the iris is WIDE open letting in ALL kinds of extra light.

Ways around it with a PnS: Change the angle of the camera. Don't take the picture straight on, try a slightly lower or slightly higher angle. What the red eye redution is supposed to do is send off a pre-flash to close the iris. Sometimes it works other times it doesn't.

Best way to fix it with digital.... the computer. Just about every basic photo editing software has a red eye reduction tool. Many of them will do it automatically with the touch of a button. You probably have something that came with your camera that will work fine.

JustinsMommy07
09-12-2008, 11:31 AM
Thanks for the responses and the suggestions. DS does have light eyes and it makes sense that I only really notice the red eye when we are indoors. I will definitely try to change angles and try taking two pictures in a row. If all else fails I guess I can use the photo editing software (was just trying to be lazy.) Thanks again.:)

pjacobi
09-12-2008, 12:33 PM
Most point and shoot cameras are really bad for red-eye, ...

Most dSLR cameras have the same problem with the built-in popup flash.

The only solution is to get a large external flash which can bounce the light off the ceiling. It's a bit awkward to carry around, but totally eliminates red-eye.


-Paul

wenrob
09-12-2008, 07:01 PM
The only solution is to get a large external flash which can bounce the light off the ceiling. It's a bit awkward to carry around, but totally eliminates red-eye.
-Paul
I beg to differ. I have an external flash, bounced and still manage to get red eye. It helps but it doesn't totally eliminate it.

DueyDooDah
09-13-2008, 11:05 AM
Red eye is tough. Because of the location of the flash in relation to the lens there becomes a reflection off the back of the retina. Because the back of the retina is mostly blood vessels it gives the "red eye".

I totally agree this is true but, how come a dog gets green-eye? I'm thinking dogs have green blood and are, therefore, aliens!

pxlbarrel
09-13-2008, 11:32 AM
I totally agree this is true but, how come a dog gets green-eye? I'm thinking dogs have green blood and are, therefore, aliens!

I think that of many dogs...especially those hairless ones (Chinese Crested?)

And I thought that many times about my old dogs. They were far smarter than they were supposed to be... perhaps they were Vulcan dachshunds???? :confused3

handicap18
09-13-2008, 12:48 PM
I totally agree this is true but, how come a dog gets green-eye? I'm thinking dogs have green blood and are, therefore, aliens!

Animals have a reflective layer in the back of their eyes behind the retina called the tapetum. This layer enhances their night vision. The color of the tapetum gives you blue, green, yellow, or white eye effect.

Groucho
09-13-2008, 10:58 PM
Most dSLR cameras have the same problem with the built-in popup flash.

The only solution is to get a large external flash which can bounce the light off the ceiling. It's a bit awkward to carry around, but totally eliminates red-eye.


-Paul
I disagree. DSLRs are far less prone to red-eye than PnSs. It's all about how close the flash is to the lens.

You can get red-eye with the onboard flash with a DSLR, but it's much rarer, and usually only in shots where you're a bit farther away from the subject (and hence a narrower angle of reflection.)

An external flash certainly helps, though... since it's further away. That's another reason for a wedding photographers to use a rig to hold the flash even further away from the camera.

WillCAD
09-14-2008, 05:15 AM
I disagree. DSLRs are far less prone to red-eye than PnSs. It's all about how close the flash is to the lens.

You can get red-eye with the onboard flash with a DSLR, but it's much rarer, and usually only in shots where you're a bit farther away from the subject (and hence a narrower angle of reflection.)

An external flash certainly helps, though... since it's further away. That's another reason for a wedding photographers to use a rig to hold the flash even further away from the camera.

Actually, red-eye happens all the time with the pop-up flashes on SLRs. It's just not quite as pronounced as with P&S cameras, because SLRs tend to have the pop-up flash a bit higher in relation to the lens, but it's not rare, and it happens with up-close subjects, too.

It's all about the angles.

handicap18
09-14-2008, 05:51 AM
I'd say its somewhere in between rare and all the time with a dSLR's popup flash. I have gotten red-eye with my popup flash, but far from all the time, but it does happen a little more often than I would like. Thankfully I don't use the popup flash very often. With my PnS I would get it all the time.

Groucho
09-14-2008, 07:47 AM
Like Kyle said...

Out of, oh, the 24,000 or so DSLR pics I've taken, I can only recall getting noticeable red-eye with probably less than 5.

It can happen, but it's much more rare. That's all I'm saying.