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chimera
11-06-2005, 06:54 PM
Hello everyone!

For those new to us, we're a group of people who are planning to participate in the 2006 and/or 2007 Disney Half or Full marathons. We range from non-running beginners to triathletes. Come join us!

Here's the Marathon FAQ, a great place to answer your marathon questions:
Disney Marathon FAQ (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=725285)
And some websites for further running/walking info:
http://www.runnersworld.com
http://www.coolrunning.com
http://www.halhigdon.com
http://www.running4women.com/
http://www.runnergirl.com/index.shtml
http://www.katherineswitzer.com/fitness.html
http://www.irongirl.com
http://www.marathonguide.com
The John Bingham site:
http://www.waddleon.com/
Jeff Galloway's site:
http://www.jeffgalloway.com/

Pacing Calculator (http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm)

Just back from WDW so I'll be brief. It was hot for Nov! :sunny:
I retired my Nike Shox from training so wore them for all day at AK yesterday. They were fabulous! No Disney feet or cranky ankle at the end of the day :Pinkbounc

Erin...glad to see you back! :wave2:

Nancy...I think you'll be with us in 2007. I've seen your determination firsthand :) Definitely think about Minnie. You've got about 7 months to train and you're already at 16!

New rule...never sit next to the leftover Halloween candy while posting!

How is everyone training now that it's getting dark earlier? Indoors or in the dark?

chimera
11-06-2005, 07:02 PM
BTW...only 2 months til marathon weekend :scared1:

plutosmyfav
11-06-2005, 07:14 PM
Lisa-- :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Too funny! I'm glad I'm not the only one with multiple personalities and talking body parts!

Cam-- Awsome splits. You are soooo far ahead of the sweeper. :cheer2: Way to Go!

Lilly, Awsome!!!!! :cheer2: I've never heard the WISH cheer before. I love it!

Lynne-- Yikes, :scared1: if I saw a snake I would just die!!!! I'm terrified of snakes, whether its a gardner or python makes no difference!

Chimera-- way to use the good shoes at Disney :) Glad you had a blast.

OK, now onto my saga. I'm dying a million deaths of embarrassment. Read on. :blush: :blush: :blush:

Today's 5K: Well I set out to PR and I did by 4 seconds. :rolleyes: Next time I'll have to be more specific with my goals. I came in 9/21 for my division, 89/181 overall, and 1st for the fillies. I was all happy until I discovered I was the only one that signed up as a filly. :blush: Sigh. (I even called my mom to boast of my great news. ugh.) My time was 25:53 (8:21). There was a person there from my work. If he congratulates me on my "first place" tomorrow I'll die again. Plus, this was Lexington, my home town. Not only my home town, but a town that way overdoes all of its "news" worthy events. I'm sure my results will be in the paper (hopefully without a photo). Ugh. I'm dying. :blush: If I didn't sign up as a Filly I would have had the respectable placement of 9/21 for my division. Ugh. I'm dying. So I have this beautiful blue ribbon medal hanging in my house to taunt me. ugh ugh ugh. I just can't bring myself to tell my family. Not out of pride but out of the pain I would see of them feeling bad for me for being disappointed. Ugh :blush: I don't think any of them know how to check Cool Runnings!

Onto a technical note;

I have serious issues with my Garmin. This is the second race where Garmin reported a much better pace. My half it said 9:19 and my chip pace was 9:28. This time it said 7:48 and my chip time was 8:21. Now I can see it having a slightly different distance/time because of when I start/stop it, but it should be consistent with the chip for pace. Now I am seriously rethinking the pace I think I've been training at. I understand the logic behind believing it will overestimate (underestimate distance) if anything, but the data doesn't support the theory. You'd think I'd have a better understanding of the technology since I work with satellites for a living. I'm going to ask around at work and see if I can get some info. From now on I think I will multiply my Garmin pace by 1.1 (a 10% adjustment). This is really important to me because if its wrong and I sign up for a 4:15 pace team but really am only ready for a 4:30 I could be spent by mile 18. I'm not happy with this discrepancy. A 10% adjustment should be overkill based on my race results (first race was off by 1.6%, second was off 7.0%). I'm sure the chip time/distance isn't absolute, but Disney won't be either. I'm going to have to do some more analysis on the bike path with the mile markers. Grrr. I want my technology to be perfect!

Sunny

TEK224
11-06-2005, 07:38 PM
I did a 5.5 mile wog yesterday, testing out my sore quad for the first time in a month. I was happy with the time given the circumstances. I had a cushion for the sweepers. The quad was sore, but not overbearingly so. Figured I'd do the same route today.

Well, I got up this morning and my whole body ached :sad1: Not so much from the previous days workout, but I felt like I was coming down with a cold/flu. Just felt :sick: I thought - what next? :rolleyes:

I got up and took it easy during through early afternoon. I was determined not to skip today's workout. But I did modify it. I went to the track and just walked. Got in 3 miles before it got too dark. Did them in 44:39 so I again was under the sweeper time. :)

I hope having to deal with these things now will make the races seem like a breeze. I think I could at least walk under sweeper pace so that I can finish, if I have to.

My sis gave me some kind of homeopathic stuff to take. It's supposed to be for people who are just starting to feel ill with cold/flu. Supposed to help prevent a full-blown sickness. Started taking it tonight, so I hope it kicks in soon.

Terri

solotraveler
11-06-2005, 07:40 PM
Evening all!

Sunny-- The way I see it, you can be an embarassed filly or a filly who is proud of her PR and her blue ribbon. Be a Proud Filly :goodvibes Oh, and don't worry about the paper. After all, those people who will point it out to you? They didn't run!! :teeth:

As for my race pace, I just don't know where I'll be yet. I think I need a couple more long runs to really know where I'm at. I'll let you know as we get closer.

chimera- I don't mind running in the dark, actually. I prefer early mornings to evenings, though. The cold I have more of a problem with. :)


I did in fact negative split my 14 miler yesterday. I went out in 1:11:09 and came back in 1:08:08 for a total of 2:19:17. I was quite consistant in my (under) performance-- 8 of my miles were between 10:00 and 10:15.

I learned a valuable lesson last night-- when you run 14 miles in the morning, you can not subsist on a single granola bar for 12 hours after your run. Really... it suprised me too. I will not get into that Horrible, Terrible, No Good, Very Bad Day that was last night at work, but I should have realized something was up when my staff told me at 5pm that I didn't look so good. By 8pm, I had tanked. I had a terrible headache and I got very sick. :sad2: A lie down, an Alieve and a protein shake later, I felt a lot better-- but my PSA for today is: "When you run a lot, you need to eat something later." :teeth:

Hope everyone did well this weekend... 2 months to go! :goodvibes :bitelip: :earseek: :scared1: :faint:

Happy training all!
Solotraveler

TEK224
11-06-2005, 07:44 PM
I love the chant Lily! :cool1:

So will we here all the Wishers chanting this along the race course?

Terri

xterratri
11-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Sunny- Great job on your PB AND your first place finish. Just because you were the only one with the courage to sign up in the fillie division for this race should not detract from your accomplishment. Yes, I said the courage to sign up, since I'm willing to bet that you were not the only runner over 140 lbs in the race.

About the Garmin- land navigation is a big deal to the Army understandably, so we spent a good portion of our field time on the topic. We were tested on map and compass navigation but had a class on GPS units with a small practical component to it. We had hand held GPS units(Garmin Etrex, I think) that we programmed in a provided coordinate and then followed the unit's directions to that point. The result was that everyone ended up within about a 8 meter radius of the known point. So Garmins aren't always exact on location which was the object of the lesson(rumor used to be that the military mandated a wobble factor for civilian units but have more exact ones for themselves and our trainer did tell us about other types of GPS recievers than the commercial Garmins we used that day). In addition, the Etrex uses up to 12 satellites for positioning as opposed to the Forerunners 3. What does that mean for us? The Garmin is constantly sampling the satellite triangulation and if it can be off by a factor of 5 m for every sample, the distance discrepancies can add up. If the distance is wrong, for a given time period, the pace is going to be messed up too. I think that we just have to accept that it's not perfect but that it is coming reasonably close. It's certainly better than a pedometer or any of the other currently available tech. It will be interesting to hear what the other satellite folks have to say.

BTW- your pace looks great for doing the 4:15 group and you could probably handle the 4:00 group too.

Cam, Lily- yeah!! Great job.

plutosmyfav
11-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Lynne-- The Garmin only uses three satellites? Well that is probably the cause of the one-sided error then. For four coordinates (lat, lon, alt and time) an accurate measurement requires 4 satellites. If its only tracking 3, then it is using the receiver's clock for time and that can be way off. Its true there is a coarse "civilian" code and an encrypted military code. Of course we are using the coarse, but the induced wobble would show up as errors in both directions. From my own experience and others posting here with race results it appears we always (or usually) err in one direction. Interesting. I'll keep investigating. I'm just a geek at heart!

Thanks for the positive spin on my race. I knew I could count on you guys to turn it around :grouphug:

A question on pace: At what point in the training schedule should we consider our pace "fixed", that is, we really aren't going to improve any more and can be fairly sure of what our race pace should be?

ETA: It just occurred to me to go got the Garmin site for info. They do indeed claim receiver clocks will add error. They also say the intentional degradation to the civilian signal was turned off in 2000. I guess my info is a bit dated! (however, there still is a civilian signal and a military signal)

Sunny

princessmomma
11-06-2005, 08:32 PM
Lynne-- The Garmin only uses three satellites? Well that is probably the cause of the one-sided error then. For four coordinates (lat, lon, alt and time) an accurate measurement requires 4 satellites. If its only tracking 3, then it is using the receiver's clock for time and that can be way off. Its true there is a coarse "civilian" code and an encrypted military code. Of course we are using the coarse, but the induced wobble would show up as errors in both directions.

Sunny

Ah, yeah....what she said??? :confused3

All I know is that my Garmin is really off somedays.

Sunny, as one Fillie to another, all I say is ...wow!.. a sub 26 minute 5 K is awesome!! You really be so proud of all you have accomplished in the past year. So some of us are bigger boned! :rolleyes2 I am proud that I am going to get this big body of mine(all 6 feet of me) across 26 miles on January 9th! Yes, it would be a lot easier if I was 5' 6" and 100 lbs, but I am not! I just say yeah, for me!

xterratri, I don't think I will be anywhere near your pace if you are hoping to finish around 4:00. Right now I am around 10:15-10:30's for my long runs, so I am hoping to finish under 4:30 and if all the stars align correctly that day, 4:20 would be awesome!! That being said, I have never done this before and don't really know the impact of miles 20-26! I have a lot of acquaintances who ran Marine Corp last weekend and some of them really tanked at the end. A few guys were running 8:30 miles and then the last 6 where 12:00's. BTW, Marine Corp Marathon's website had a feature that breaks down everyone's race results by mile and will also "map" out a certain runner's run on the course (the little dot actually moves around the course as the time elapses). Will they have something like this for Disney?

Solo..great run.

Terri, hope you are feeling better. DH (who is training for Kiawah Island Marathon) was really sick this weekend too. He ran his 18 miles on Saturday and then spent most of the day in bed today. He is hoping to make his Boston qualifying time, so he really goes out hard on this LR's.

Mel, hope you had a great time at DW!! Lucky you!

Colleen

gatorphipps
11-06-2005, 08:51 PM
Hey everyone! Got back in town last night but did not get to look @ posts until today. I am gone for a couple of days and there are 100000000 posts. WOW! So I skimmed through them but I know I am missing SO many people.

Sunny - Be proud of yourself! I am...you held a wonderful pace and have worked very hard to get where you are. Here you go.. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Melissa - congrats on your double LRs. :cheer2:

Well DH and I did the 18 mile LR Friday. We averaged around a 10 min mile or just a little above! :banana: We were very pushed for time so I think we ran hard the whole time. He did not even use his MP3 player. We chatted the whole time (until the end - all uphill - where I asked him if he would think less of me if I threw up :earseek: ). I have had some kind of cold so I think this affected (or is it effected) me. But anyway..we got through the double LRs with good paces and we were not even sore! :cool1: Tired, but not sore....I even enjoyed the womens confrence I went to help with.

:wizard: :wizard: :wizard: to everyone's training this week. I hope everything is spelled OK...I did not go back and check.
Christa

TXBelle
11-06-2005, 08:55 PM
Great job everyone on your LR this weekend! I did my 8 mile LR in 1:56. I made the mistake of deciding to start at run 3/walk 2 at the beginning, and I am just not ready for that. I did that 3 miles and then had to switch back to walk 3/run 2. My pace was much better at my normal training pace (walk 3/run 2). I learned that I just need to stick with the walk 3/run 2 because that works best for me. I went back to my Wave Runners and they were fine, but my hip is still killing me. So, the good news is that it's not the
Asics, the bad news is that I have serious hip pain. I took Cam's advice and took a long soak in a cold whirlpool tub after the run and that felt good. I also iced the hip but that didn't seem to make much of a difference. Tomorrow is a rest day then back to training on Tuesday.

Have a great week everyone! :flower:

NYcpa
11-06-2005, 08:57 PM
Today was supposed to be a rest day. Since I don't think we will get many more 75 degree days in November, Erin and I walked 2 miles in 40 min at Green Lakes State Park. Here is a link to some pictures I took there today.
www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2117913318&idx=1
Green Lake is one of two meromictic lakes in the area. The other is Round Lake which is located adjacent to Green Lake. Interestingly, there is no fall and spring turnover of waters as with other lakes. Round Lake is a National Natural Landmark registered at 180 feet deep and Green Lake is measured at 195 feet deep.

The trail goes around the lake. It is very deep and the water is normally a very pretty shade of green. The wind today caused the water to ripple so it didn't show up as green as it really is.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/pbf702e15eecd78478fa983b12c835d37/f18fabeb.jpg

plutosmyfav
11-06-2005, 09:49 PM
Kathy-- those pics are great! Thanks so much for sharing them. I love seeing other people's training grounds!


Heather-- I'm so sorry to hear you are still have hip pain. I can't remember, have you had it looked at?

Colleen-- Thanks! Yes we will be very proud when we cross that finish line. :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: During my race I envisioned the strong flanks of a clydesdale as I ran. I thought to myself "big and powerful". That kept me moving :)

I guess it could have been worse. I could have not seen the results on line and went ot the gym tomorrow and told everyone of my "feat"!!!!

Back to the Garmin. Colleen's post prompted me to think of the "off" days. My half was off by 1.6% and it was a beautiful sunny day, blue skies, little clouds. Today was off by 7% and it was terribly overcast and a fine mist in the air. Atmospheric conditions definitely introduce more error. So, I will take that into consideration when I "adjust" my pace. On sunny days I'll add 2%, on overcast days I'll at 8% (unless the current data gives me reason to think differently). I'm coming to grips with my Garmin :earboy2: I guess I won't throw it out the window just yet!!!!!! This all brings me to the little boy I ran with today. I'd guess he was about 8 or 9. He ran side-by-side with me through mile 2.0 to ~2.8. Then I got ahead of him. Near the end he rocketed past me. No equipment, no music, just the beautiful gait of a kid who hasn't "learne how to run" but just does it naturally.

Christa-- way to go on the 18, even if you didn't finish real "lady like". Ending a LR uphill is brave!

Sunny

Tiger Lily 03
11-06-2005, 10:22 PM
Kathy, great pics!

Sunny, I'm with Solo Sunny-- The way I see it, you can be an embarassed filly or a filly who is proud of her PR and her blue ribbon. Be a Proud Filly Oh, and don't worry about the paper. After all, those people who will point it out to you? They didn't run!! I think you should be PROUD and not care. You were out there!

Solo, good lesson. I hope I learn from your experience and not ever experience it firsthand.

Terri, hope we'll be hearing that chant. For sure at Trails End. We did this January. It was fun!

Thanks for the info on the Garmin...I guess I need to know that it is not exact. For me, I am hoping it is close enough to keep me where I want to be...in front of the sweepers and a little time for picture ops.

Mel, so to answer your question...never me at night here. I am way to frightened of falling over something. Won't be where I can't see what I am stepping into. So it is the dreaded gym equipment for me during the week. Weekends I long for permissible weather.

Everyone, glad to hear of your progress.

Looking for the rest of the group. Where is everyone else?

MelRhoads
11-06-2005, 11:06 PM
Sunny - I'll have to let you in on a really embarassing story from April. I went to run a race w/ my SIL about 4hrs away from here. I looked up last yrs. results and decided that I should enter the 10k instead of the 5k because not many people entered it the previous year and I might actually place in my age category. As you know from my paces, I'm a slow runner, and I figured it would be worth trying. I entered and ended up winning 2nd in my age division. Well, the boy (who had just celebrated his 3rd b'day) saw his 10yo cousin win a trophy, so naturally, he wanted one. I let him go get mine. He was so excited. He didn't like the fact that it had a girl on top, but he got over it. The embarassing part is that he carried it EVERYWHERE he went for the rest of the weekend! He carried it into restaurants, where he would leave to go to the bathroom with his dad and leave me sitting at the table with a 2nd place trophy with a woman running on top. I know people though that I was so proud that I brought it in with me and sat it on the table. He would of course, forget to carry it out of wherever he took it in, and that left me with it again!!!!! FOR ALL TO SEE. My favorite part of the weekend was when the housekeeper at the hotel asked him about it and he said "I got it running in a race!" Anyway, I guess I got my dose of humility that weekend for sure!!!! Oh, and by the way, I think it is great that you signed up for and won the filly cat.!!!!!

Lilly - WTG!!!!! You did great!

OK - I have been out of town on a romantic weekend. We just picked up the boy and after 8hrs in the car are back home! I'm going to sleep!

TEK224
11-07-2005, 12:37 AM
Sunny - be proud of your Filly status! At least you were out there participating.

I'm a filly (make that a Philly?) person too. Although I have about 100 pounds on you. But I'll be out there. As long as I finish I'll be happy. PR's will have to wait until after the first race has been completed.

Terri

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 06:58 AM
MelR-- that is tooo funny! Kids and races have a way of keeping us humble!!!

Terri-- Your first race is your PR, in fact, your training is your current PR. Way to go! Thanks for the pep talk :flower:

Lilly-- I don't want to alarm anyone with my anal Garmin calculations, but I think it is a good idea to not count too drastically on the exact pace it gives you.

:banana: :Pinkbounc :confused3 :pug: :dog: :cheer2: :grouphug: :earboy2: :badpc: :hourglass :rolleyes1 :love1:

(DS asked me to put all those clippies in) He's singing "banana, banana, pink head..."

Sunny

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 08:10 AM
OK, bear with me, a lot to say today. :blush:

Congrats to Heather for the 8- miler. A little advice on the hip. Ice, rest adn Advil.

COngrats ti Lily, solo and Lynne on the 14-milers!!! Woo hoo!

Solo - Tsk Tsk. You know better. On the bright side, you didn't have to stay 'til the end of teh game in that nasty weather. BTW - who won?

Congrats to CHrista on the 18-miler!!!!

Congrats to cam and crzy4 pooh on your LR's! WOo hoo!

Sunny - A new PR is a new PR. Way to go!!!!

Kathy - Hang in there! You will get your strength back, but it will take time. Kepp up the good work! Cool pic!

Erin - So good to see you!!!!! SOrry about your knee. I hope you can at least do the half with your mom. Good that you have each other to train with!

Lisa - Sorry about your being side-lied. With your determination, it won't be for long!

OK. Here's my deal. Thursday and Friday the hip felt great and I was really excited to run Saturday (somebbody please take my temperature.)

Well, the word was slowwwwww. In teh beginnin git was for rpecautionary sake, I was afraid after not running for a weeka dn a half. At the end, turtle was all I could manage. Funny sory:

So, around mile 11, we are running gthrough tthis neighborhood and a guy has just gotten out of his truck in his driveway. He yells up to us, "You two training fora marathon?"

"Well, yes we are."

"I thought so, 'cause I passed you guys about an hour ago. You going about 15 today?" (What is the main a genius who caluculated time and pace?)

"Well 14."

"That's great! You're looking good."

"Thanks."

I don't know why, but ht whole conversation was kind of cool. However, my brain went off on the looking good comment. No, actually, I'm sure I look like death, but I'm not gonna' let 3 piddly miles stop me from finishing this sucker. So, I ask you, when did 3 miles become piddly to me???? ;) (DH said when I had already run 11. Duh.)

After a bit, dh says, "We've become that girl."

"WHat girl?"

"Remember? This spring? That girl who passed us a s we were finishing our run and did not pass by our window again until after we finished dinner."

"Oh, yeah. THAT girl. When did we become her?"

This is all kind of scary people. I think we have all become runner somewhere along the way. We took it in such little steps that we never realized how far we really are. Wow! :teeth:

OK, bored you long enough. Have a GREAT week everyone!

wfloyd
11-07-2005, 08:36 AM
With all the talk about GPS and the accuracy, here is a brief synopsis of what I have learned in classes and on the job. It may be long and somewhat boring but it covers some of the anomolies and working of GPS systems in general.

Traditional GPS is accurate to within 10's of meters. There are 28 satellites with about 6 orbits around the earth. Meaning that theoretically at least 3 should be visible from any point on the earth at any given time. To calculate a position anywhere on the earth, it needs at least 4 satellites (this gives elevation as well, 3 can be used for just position). It will take the best signals that it can find in the sky and can change between satellites at any time if it needs to. Line of sight and interference objects (trees, buildings, clouds, windows...) will effect the accuracy of measurements as well as any atmospheric anomolies (earth heating and cooling...).

There is a Differential GPS (DGPS) that is accurate to within centimeters. This measurement includes a reference signal that is fairly close to the user. The reference signal is stationary on the ground and is used to offset any errors from the satellites. Since the reference is stationary, it also receives a location from the satellites and can see how far off any one may be measuring at a given time. It will then send this error out to the users. DGPS systems are expensive ($10,000+) and generally consumers don't use them.

Some of the satellites are getting old and new ones are being sent up to replace them but it takes a while. So the older ones are probably less accurate than the newer ones, which will also add to the errors.

The government had a "Selective Availability" option to degrade the accuracy for commercial GPS use. Mainly so bad guys couldn't hit a precise spot from far away. This was turned off in May of 2000 primarly because it didn't really do any good. If the bad guys could hit within 100-1000 meters of their target, they would just use a bigger weapon to ensure their objective was hit.

Garmin is probably calculating pace by taking the stopwatch and the distance measurements and figuring out the pace. I am also guessing they use some nice adaptive filters that will help smooth the signal to keep you from jumping back and forth. If your signal keeps moving a potential 20 meters at a time, the filter will generate some odd looking results and will effect your overall pace.

From my experience, in Florida, it appears the readings are within .03 miles (~150 feet)of each other. This isn't a scientific study since starting and stopping points aren't at the exact spot but within 20 feet each time for some of my runs but fairly close to give me confidence in the measurements. I will also notice that as I run under a cover of trees, my walking pace will jump from 14min/mile to 25 min/mile. Then there are times when it will go into an auto-pause (set at 30min/mile) at odd times but quickly resume again.

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 08:56 AM
Carrie-- You've crossed over!!!!! :cheer2: You are no longer "one of them", those sane people who think running 3 miles is a pretty long ways :rotfl2: Glad to hear you made it through your 14 miler after your running break.




From my experience, in Florida, it appears the readings are within .03 miles (~150 feet)of each other. This isn't a scientific study since starting and stopping points aren't at the exact spot but within 20 feet each time for some of my runs but fairly close to give me confidence in the measurements. I will also notice that as I run under a cover of trees, my walking pace will jump from 14min/mile to 25 min/mile. Then there are times when it will go into an auto-pause (set at 30min/mile) at odd times but quickly resume again.

My experience has been that the distance appears very accurate, too (if I can trust the mile markers on my route). I think the error is more in the timing. When the pace jumps way up under trees its probably due to the signal bouncing around (multiple paths) before reaching the Garmin.

MelRhoads
11-07-2005, 09:03 AM
On the garmin - I have no technical info to add, but I have learned not to rely on it during a race. It has typically given me inaccurate results which are usually more inaccurate on shorter races. On the 1/2's I've done they are closer to my recorded race pace. On the shorter 5 and 10k's it is usually off. I think some of this is related to the fact that the course is most likly not accurate either! I still use it during races to pace myself at the beginning and keep myself on a steady pace. :flower:

I'm not doing much this week in the way of training. We an adventure race this weekend. This is our last one of the season!!!! I'm so glad. I have been able to fit all of the races into my training schedule, but since we are all getting into the really long runs, I'm not really wanting to do the other races!! This week was supposed to be a short LR anyway. It went from 17 last week to 13 this week, so I was looking forward to the break! After this weekend's race, I can get back to just running and biking and swimming for xt!!!!!

I have been trying to read up on the different rides in the parks in Disney to plan our fun days. I have that unofficial guide. It is huge but he did include plans for families with preschool children and I did read about the switchoff (that sounds like a good thing). I don't like that book, it doesn't have any pictures. I want a book with pics of the cool stuff and about 300 fewer pages!

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 09:09 AM
I have been trying to read up on the different rides in the parks in Disney to plan our fun days. I have that unofficial guide. It is huge but he did include plans for families with preschool children and I did read about the switchoff (that sounds like a good thing). I don't like that book, it doesn't have any pictures. I want a book with pics of the cool stuff and about 300 fewer pages!

Mel-- My first trip to Disney I read that book, too. I got myself stressed out worrying about doing everything right. My take on it is, gather some info and then just take it as it comes. I was overwhelmed when I read you should enter the parks and turn a certain way and have a detailed itenary set for the day, etc. I don't do any of that. Its all fun any way you do it. One thing you might want to keep in mind though, is the inside rides are sometimes dark and EVERYTHING is loud at Disney. So you might want to start the boy off with outdoor rides first (Dumbo, flying carpets, type rides) so as not to scare him to death!

Sunny

Jodi
11-07-2005, 10:34 AM
Hey guys!

I can't believe you guys are training the way you are. I can't imagine running 14 miles...maybe one day!

I'm a little disturbed to hear about the Garmin. I was taking what it tells me as the "truth", maybe I'm not running as good as I thought I was. Ugh.

Need some advice, guys. I didn't run Sat., gave my knees a break. I'm on, I think, week 7 of the MFM run 1/2. Sat. it backed down to 4 mile LR. When I counted the weeks to WDW, I'm about 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Should I repeat this weeks schedule? Or move on to the next week w/ a LR of 8 mi. & taper off @ the end of training when we get closer? I don't wanna mess up by undertraining as the 1/2 approaches. :confused3

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jodi

Tiger Lily 03
11-07-2005, 10:52 AM
Carrie, love the story.

Thanks for more Garmin info.

What is up with me today? I can't seem to feel well. Intestinal trouble keeping me running to the bathroom. :blush: Could it be residual from my LR I wonder?
:confused3

keenercam
11-07-2005, 11:00 AM
Kathy -- The pictures are beautiful. Thank you for sharing. I realized Saturday when I did my LW at the state park for the first time, that the setting can make all the difference. The loop is a 1 1/8 mile cinder "track" on which they used to train race horses and it seems so much easier to walk on -- kind of soft and very pretty, distracting views of trees and a lake (until the geese showed up at about 8 a.m. and would walk across the path!) I am actually looking forward to my 7 mile LW next Saturday there and hope the weather is as gorgeous this weekend.

Sunny -- awesome finish, sweetie! You should be so proud of yourself.

Heather -- I am sorry you are having hip pain. I wish I could take the credit for good advice, but I am sure that came from one of our other WISHers here! It's great that you are trying out different intervals and finding what will work for you. It may be that once you do just the w3/r2 your hip pain will completely abate. I hope so! :wizard:

Lily -- Congrats on your awesome outing! :banana:

Melissa -- the trophy story is hysterical! I actually plan to be that way with my Donald medal. Now, if I could just get up the nerve to wear it to work when we return from WDW!

carrie -- your story and your DH's comments really struck a chord in me today. I felt such a sense of pride on Saturday when I watched people come on and off the loop doing their "thing". I knew that I couldn't run, but I was out there exercising and actually training to an objective. More importantly, though, is that I really enjoyed myself! I didn't resent the time commitment and even the soreness afterwards is welcomed. A reminder of how I spent the first couple hours of my Saturday. We've come a long way! :teeth:

Oh, drats! I have been trying to write this off and on for a couple of hours. Too busy at work. More later!

welovedis
11-07-2005, 11:05 AM
Well, just wanted to pop into the thread and say a big congrats to everyone who is sticking with their training! You've all come a long way since last winter, when I remember reading these posts daily and thinking it was so far off to the 1/2 in Jan 2006...now we are around the 60 day mark, unbelievable! :flower:

I'm sorry to say that I decided not to run the 1/2 this January. I've been thru some rough spots, physically, this past year and have a heel that is acting up right now. Dr says to stop running and let it rest or the plantar fascitis will just get worse & worse. I've tried rest, ice, taping, stretching, heel pads, arch supports and it just isn't getting any better. Now I'm overcompensating with my other leg and getting some really sore calf muscles.....ugh! I really need to concentrate on getting this heel better & losing weight to see if that helps the condition. :confused:

Psychologically, my brain needs a break as well, from trying to fit the runs in with my schedule. My mom lives about 1 1/2 hours from me and is now being treated for terminal cancer so I've been driving alot and spending as much as I can with her. :sad1:

Right now those things are just far more important than accomplishing a better finish in 2006. I still look fondly on my 2004 1/2 medal in the frame above my desk & know that I'll be back again, maybe even for the Mickey next time. :)

Our family will still be there for marathon weekend and I'll even do the 5K with my DH & DS since we'll be just briskly walking the whole thing. Hope to see some of you there. :cool1:

Good luck to all who are in the midst of training, I wish you speedy miles and quick recovery!!! :goodvibes

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 11:06 AM
I felt such a sense of pride on Saturday when I watched people come on and off the loop doing their "thing". I knew that I couldn't run, but I was out there exercising and actually training to an objective. More importantly, though, is that I really enjoyed myself! I didn't resent the time commitment and even the soreness afterwards is welcomed. A reminder of how I spent the first couple hours of my Saturday. We've come a long way! :teeth:

That's exactly what I mean. Run, walk, doesn't matter. It's the fact that we all took on these goals that were huge at the time and we are progressing towards achieving it and doing things we never thought possible along the way!

Hope you're feeling better soon Lily!

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 11:21 AM
Karen - :grouphug: :wizard: that things will get better soon!!!

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 11:31 AM
Karen,

Its so good to hear from you. I am so sorry you are going through so much. :grouphug:

Prayers and :wizard: :wizard: for you and your Mom.

Sunny

TiffJ
11-07-2005, 11:55 AM
Karen-good to hear from you. Hope everything starts to get a little easier for you. :wizard: There will be several of us at the 5k as well. My DS & DH are doing it along w/my nieces. I think others have family doing it too. I will be the one in the wheelchair because I cant walk after doing the 1/2 :)

Cam- I know what you mean. Not too long ago I would have told anyone that asked me to go walk 6 miles that they were insane. Now I am so proud to be able to do it. When I got tired yesterday I just kept saying "you're an endurance athlete now, you cant rest until you've done what you need to do" I am also proud of the effect it is having on DS. He has never been into team sports but now he wants to run races & do a kids triathlon. We are so opposite that its great for us to have something in common.

Have a great week everyone!

solotraveler
11-07-2005, 01:56 PM
COngrats ti Lily, solo and Lynne on the 14-milers!!! Woo hoo!

Solo - Tsk Tsk. You know better. On the bright side, you didn't have to stay 'til the end of teh game in that nasty weather. BTW - who won?




Oh, but I DID have to stay 'til the "end" of that game in the nasty weather. Sick and all. How one can get soaked to the skin wearing a rain suit and two layers of clothing is beyond me, but I managed it! And after a two hour kickoff delay, a 75 minute lightening delay after te 1st quarter and another lightening delay halfway through the second, they finally decided to call the game a No contest and send everyone home at 12:15am. Longest. Day. Ever. 10 hours of thunderstorms in Michigan in November. Who knew! :confused3

Great job on your 14 miler too. I love what you said about being "that girl" all of a sudden. I admit to my own disbelief at what I'm doing sometimes... I understand now what the marathon books talk about when they refer to training for the race as a life-altering experience. It can (and does) change how you view yourself.

Back to work...

Happy training all!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 02:10 PM
Oh solo that stinks!!!! I probably shouldn't mention that I thought of you on my way to CHicken Little should I? :earboy2: No way we were headed toa game in that. I cannot remeber such a long horrible storm. Hope the hail missed you!

littlegreydonkey
11-07-2005, 02:21 PM
Hi there - not much to report trainingwise for me, did my 4 miles last night, all good, got 8 miles to do Wednesday, hopefully it won't rain. Everyone else seems busy though.

Sunny: you still came first - and, even if I'd been fillying along with you, you'd also have come first, you trounced my PB which I've been trying to break for 2 years now. Fastest I've ever done 5k is 25.45 and I still don't know how that happened as I've never been close again.

MelR: I did warn you the book was scary - I've never actually used one of their plans but it's good to get you orientated. The one tip you should take on though is to get your fast passes where and when you can, it really does help you get more done.

Carrie: The scariest thing I found was not so much thinking that running the distance is easy - although when you say 'only' did a half this weekend, non runners think you're bonkers - it was when I came back from a 10 mile run the other day (which I worryingly now refer to as my short run), had a shower and nothing ached. It was like I'd been lying on the sofa for two hours - now that isn't normal although I admit it's a nice stage to get to.

Anyway, work calls: Helen

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 02:50 PM
was when I came back from a 10 mile run the other day (which I worryingly now refer to as my short run), had a shower and nothing ached. It was like I'd been lying on the sofa for two hours - now that isn't normal although I admit it's a nice stage to get to.
:worship:

Barely moved Sat or Sun. still alittle sore today. OK, ther's my next goal! ;)

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 03:10 PM
Sunny: you still came first - and, even if I'd been fillying along with you, you'd also have come first,

Ah thanks, Helen, Looks like I am fillying with the best :)

I had a total Stonker today. 6 miles turned into 4.6 in 50:30 (10:56). I got to the gym with no goal, couldn't decide what I wanted to do so I thought, "ho, hum, I guess I'll go running". And that is exactly what I got back.

On a happier note. I've been upset with myself for not keeping a training journal. I've got a training log with all the stats, but not a "this is how I am feeling along the way" sort of keepsake. So I had an idea. I went back to the first training thread I posted on and cut and pasted all my major threads to a Word document to serve as a journal. I found that I discovered CoolMax on June 19th and Garmin early July. Ah the memories.

Anywho, this lead to another thought. I thought "wouldn't it be wonderful to have the whole journey we've woven together all in one place to keep". So I'm contemplating a way to write some sort of program that could parse the html into a journal like document. I don't know if I can figure this out. Is there anyone who just read that line and it made sense and thought 'oh there's a much easier way to do that...', if so, please let me know. In the meantime, I'll put my noggin to it. Its really quite neat to see the stages we've gone through, silly stages, chub-rub stages, injury stages, and on and on.

If anyone else would like to make their own journal out of thier old posts, you can start here: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=836019

and cut and past each of your entries to a word processing program. At the end Chimera gives you a link to the next week. Sorry, this starts at June 12th because that's when I started ;)

Sunny

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 03:33 PM
OK, I had to find the thread that started it all ofr me. I beleive Mel started it on 1/15. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=714490&page=1&pp=15&highlight=marathon

My first entry "I'm not sure if it will work out, but I'm dreaming of doing teh marathon next year."

Not far below me was Miss Cam. "I can't believe I'm doing this."

I recommend finding your first post (s) to everyone! It's amazing how far we've come!

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 03:51 PM
Keep forgetting to share...

I know, Ive posted about 50 times today and still haven't remebered. Here's the song that got me through Saturday's LR, sung by Kermit.

Happy feet, I've got those happy feet
Give them a low down beat
And they begin dancing
I've got those ten little tapping toes
And when they hear a tune
I can't control my dancing heels
To save my soul
Weary blues can't get into my shoes
Because my shoes refuse to ever grow weary
I keep cheerful on an earful of music sweet
'Cause I've got happ happ happy feet
Weary blues can't get in our shoes
Because our shoes refuse to ever grow weary
We keep cheerful on an earful of music sweet
'Cause we've got happ happ happy
'Cause we've got happ happ happy feet
Feet!


No, my feet didn't seem all that happy, but the song had a good beat and kept me going!

plutosmyfav
11-07-2005, 03:55 PM
That's a great tune!!!!

I just have to post this: I'm reading through the "early months" and found a post where I had begun counting my steps. They were consistently 83-84 (one foot) per minute. A couple of weeks ago I did a whole bunch of counting and they are now almost always 88 with an occasional 89. :cool1: That's a progress bar I hadn't been tracking :)

MelRhoads
11-07-2005, 04:05 PM
Sunny - I had to click on the WISH clipart archive just to see what was there. Then I began to wonder.... Is anyone else running to disney? Will you make it before the marathon?

I am a total slug today. I have been eating cereal and surfing the net while the boy is napping! I need to be finishing my bible study (which i am behind on and have to do by Wed.) and taking a nap for myself!!!!! One more handful of cereal... Yum, yum

Lisa loves Pooh
11-07-2005, 04:43 PM
Jodi--I would repeat this week....and then do the next week..and then repeat that (since you said you were off two. Basically--don't repeat the same week 3x). Well done though on training!

You guys are scaring me with Garmin talk! I'd like to think that my Garmin is practically perfect in every way. :rolleyes1 I think I will nickname mine "Garmin Poppins"


And--may I have your attention please!

I do believe my quad is making an appearance :cheer2: :cheer2: .

The therapist didn't believe me today--joking that it was the shadows from the light. I said..."I don't think so--come over and look". "Looky there", he says! It ain't munch....but heck, it's a quad!

Greenlighted to do cardio for equivilant time on the training schedule (divvied into 2-3 workouts per day). Wahooo!!!

keenercam
11-07-2005, 04:43 PM
OK, I had to find the thread that started it all ofr me. I beleive Mel started it on 1/15. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=714490&page=1&pp=15&highlight=marathon

My first entry "I'm not sure if it will work out, but I'm dreaming of doing teh marathon next year."

Not far below me was Miss Cam. "I can't believe I'm doing this."

I recommend finding your first post (s) to everyone! It's amazing how far we've come!

Carrie -- It is so great that you found that. I LOVED going back and reading some of those original "commitment" posts! Here was mine: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=7386829#post7386829

It's funny. Most days I STILL don't believe I am doing this. But most days? I believe I CAN do it. That is the HUGE difference! And I owe it to you guys for keeping me motivated and providing such incredible support and encouragement. Now, I really, really mean it when I say this -- I just HOPE some of you are still around on 1/7 when I FINALLY cross the finish line. Promise you'll stick around for this slowpoke, okay? :grouphug:

panthergirl
11-07-2005, 04:47 PM
Found it. This was me on Jan. 31.

Can you add me to the list please?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi! My name is Susan and I just took the big plunge and registered for the 2006 1/2 Marathon. Whoa, big deep breath! I am going to be turning the big 5-0 in 2006 and this is my way of defying age. I plan to run the darn thing so I'm going to be training pretty hard. I work with a fabulous trainer three times a week and I trust him to have me ready to go. Looking forward to talking with all of you and hopefully meeting you next January. This is gonna be FUN!!

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 04:47 PM
CAm, we could never leave before watching you finish! :goodvibes

Lisa - Woo hoo!!!!! COngrats on teh quad! So would that be Gary Poppins to his friends? ;)

disnutt
11-07-2005, 04:50 PM
All the Garmin geek talk has me thinking about buying one. What's the real difference between the models? Do they have an interval timer or would I still need my Ironman watch for that?

Thanks
Kiena

keenercam
11-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Lisa -- GREAT NEWS!!!! I am so happy for you! Soon you'll be :cool1: and :banana: and :Pinkbounc better than ever, and we will all be here :cheer2: you on! Keep up your great recovery -- you are definitely an inspiration. Your situation would have de-railed a lot of people. You should be very proud of yourself! :hug:

wtpclc
11-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Kiena - Yes, 201 has an interval timer adn much, much more. 301 has all that plus heart rate monitor. I don't know much about the 101.

disnutt
11-07-2005, 04:58 PM
Thanks for the Garmin info! I'm heading over to ebay now!

MelRhoads
11-07-2005, 05:02 PM
The 101 has an interval timer. I think the only difference bet the 101 and 201 is that the 101 does not download into the computer and it uses triple A battries instead of being rechargable. The 201 is slightly thinner since it does not use the batteries. I have wanted to be able to download to get an altitude profile after a run and cannot do it with the 101.

msblrobs
11-07-2005, 05:28 PM
Just checking in since I'm traveling this week and finding myself in NJ today.

Two long runs this past weekend, 9 on Saturday and 12 on Sunday. I seem no worse for the wear, I'm pleased to say, and feeling a little bit like an athlete today :cheer2:

On the down side, the Halloween candy has been talking to me a lot lately and I am feeling like I will be gaining 5 for November instead of losing 5 :confused3

That being said, I have to run off to a company dinner this evening :rotfl2:

Congrats to everyone on their progression. It looks like everyone has come such a long way.

Hoping to do 9 miles tomorrow if I can beat the traffic home...

Jodi
11-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Lisa - Thanks for the advice, I'll repeat last week & do this weeks x2...Congrats on seeing the quad again! Keep up the + attitude, you rock.

Ya know, I get so wound up in reading everyones posts, that I rarely read the personal info posted below each person. I have to say, though, I am thouroughly impressed by the weight loss that you guys have achieved! It's incredible to me, really. Even those of you still working towards your goal, the fact that you've lost what you have is such an accomplishment, you should be sooooo proud of yourselves!!! And on top of that, you're training for a marathon/1/2 marathon, or BOTH! My hats off to all of you that have literally, turned your lives around!! That is just soooo hard to do, and so cool.

Speaking of weight loss, can anyone help me lose 10-12 pounds more? I'm trying to get rid of this excess b-4 the 1/2, but I'm having a real hard time! And of course I keep reading that when you're training, this is not the time to try and lose weight. But I think I'll forget I read that :teeth:

These last 10 are really stubborn! I need help, please. Again, any advice/secrets you'd like to share?

Jodi

Lisa loves Pooh
11-07-2005, 06:34 PM
Kiena - Yes, 201 has an interval timer adn much, much more. 301 has all that plus heart rate monitor. I don't know much about the 101.

My understanding on the diff between 101 and 201....the downloading to PC.

I'm sure their might be something else--but I didn't read my manual. :rolleyes1

Mine does not have rechargable batteries--but if I am not mistaken, I think I could have gotten a 101 with rechargable..but no idea really.

Also--someone posted their fancy schmancy download (I am jealous ;)) Apparently, the 201 will show changes in elevation....while the 101 just shows the map (went in a straight line, went in a circle...etc.).

Lisa loves Pooh
11-07-2005, 06:36 PM
Lisa - Thanks for the advice, I'll repeat last week & do this weeks x2...Congrats on seeing the quad again! Keep up the + attitude, you rock.


Just had a thought---you could also do this week....then repeat last week, then repeat this week. (so you'd do week A week B week A week B). Shakes it up a bit so that the training doesn't seem monotanous...and when you get to repeating week A--it's like getting a break! (depending on what your LR days are at this point).

TEK224
11-07-2005, 07:17 PM
Lisa - Congrats! It's a quad! :cheer2: :cheer2:

Terri (who has an off-day today)

xterratri
11-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Ran 6.37 on 1:01 tonight. Most impressed by that fact that all but the first 1.09 miles were after dark. Actually, it was really quite neat. Unlike last week when I ran on the main(e) road and kept getting my night vision shot by oncoming cars, I ran tonight on the back roads by the water. It was really neat seeing the moonlight and the lights from the houses reflecting off the water. Didn't see that snake tonight though. Oh wait, was that because it was dark?

So I thought I could run after class got out at 3 and get it in during daylight but Dr W asked me to help grade 1st year gross anatomy exams at 4. So I ran from home to school in full 'going for a run after dark' gear, helped out for about 2 hours, and then did the other 50+ minutes of my run.

Mel- you asked how people were handling the lack of daylight: I try to run earlier(but I don't do mornings) but I've ran after dark 2 times and on the indoor track once. There are also treadmills available at school but I consider those last resort. I did order some Illuminite reflective clothing so hopefully I'm visible after dark.

Lisa- yeah quad
Carrie- loved the 'one of those people' story. I believe I said a couple weeks ago that there was an alien invasion going on.
Karen- PD for you during this tough time.
:wizard: :wizard: :wizard: for everyone else battling aches and pains and and an extra :wizard: that those that aren't will continue in that group.

perfectmatch300
11-07-2005, 09:46 PM
Lisa, glad to hear the quad is doing better. Hopefully you will be back to a regular training routine in no time.

Just got back from my walk tonight and unfortunately since that one night when I went at a 16:30 pace I have not been able to repeat that pace. My walks have been between 17:78 to 18:39. Not as good as I'd like, but at least I do know I do have that 16:30 potential in me. The good news tonight was - drum roll please - negative splits! Yep, I actually picked up my pace as we went along rather than slowing down! The other thing - it is still way better that the 19 to 20 min pace which was the best I could do as recently as 2 months ago.

So I have taken the big step of signing up for another event - my second race ever! It is a 2 mile Turkey Trot while we are in CTfor the wedding - the day after the wedding, in fact. DH has even agreed to do it with me. I'm hoping to have him push my pace a little bit because he is way faster than me. I just hope we don't freeze! :cold: It's amazing how fast my body has gotten used to this FL weather! We have only been here 18 mo. and the thought of going back to CT for Thanksgiving is sending shivvers through both of us! There is also a 5 mile run that day but I chose the 2 mile based on pace and the fact that I'm sure we will be tired after the wedding the day before. Based on previous years times, even at an approx 18 min/mile pace, I should finish well within the pack in the 2 mile which will be good for my ego after finishing last in the 5K I did last spring. It is a timed event over a course that is more accurately measured than my neighborhood walks, so it should give me a good idea of what my pace really is. I'm looking forward to it. Just have to decide what to wear. Certainly can't be the shorts and tee I walked in tonight!

crzy4pooh
11-07-2005, 09:56 PM
Ran 4 miles tonight and experimented a bit with the intervals. It was hot/humid/rainy this morning and hot/humid this afternoon, so did it at 8pm. It was so dark!!!! Perhaps when the moon gets a bit bigger it won't be so bad. I did have fun getting chased by the mosquito-spraying truck. I think he was waiting at the intersections until he saw me, then would turn and spray right in my face... cough, cough, sputter, sputter... :crazy2:

Anyway, time to turn in! :wizard: for fast healing from injuries!!! Happy training to all!!! :cheer2:

perfectmatch300
11-08-2005, 01:28 AM
OK it's not Disney, but I'm sure it will be a really interesting run. Anyone going to try the Las Vegas Marathon (http://www.lvmarathon.com/) ? Our closest friends will be there at that time but they are not planning to run it even though they have both done marathons in the past. I'm going to request a full report from them on this event. :teeth:

disnutt
11-08-2005, 06:46 AM
Thanks again to the Garmin gurus. I'm so impressed with the 301 but I have a heart rate monitor that I rarely use so I've decided on the 201 so I can get the nifty altitude downloading capapbilities. That sounds like fun.

Jodi- I'm doing Weight Watchers online trying to drop 10 lbs before Christmas. I had some success with it earlier this year. I lost 10 pounds and quit following the program religiously. I leveled out but still need to lose about 15 pounds. I'm just shooting for 8-10 before Disney and then I'll finish the rest off later. The program is pretty simple. My problem is portion control. I LOVE food. If I'm tracking my food and watching those points climb during the day I tend to realize that I'm actually satisfied w/ less food so I don't keep eating.

I'm going to do a 2 miler tonight w/my 9 yo DD she wants to do the Minnie run as soon as she turns 11 (2007) and is eligible so she's been asking to run with me. I'm so excited! We have great talks and we both get some exercise. Nothing could be better-until my other kids get old enough to come.

disnutt
11-08-2005, 06:49 AM
[QUOTE=perfectmatch300] We have only been here 18 mo. and the thought of going back to CT for Thanksgiving is sending shivvers through both of us! QUOTE]

It's actually been pretty comfortable here the last few days. Blow some pixie dust :wizard: our way and we'll try to keep it warm for you!

welovedis
11-08-2005, 08:18 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone! :)

I'll be watching for those lime green shirts at the 1/2 finish line.....hope to cheer some of you on in Epcot.


Best of luck to everyone. :goodvibes

wtpclc
11-08-2005, 08:47 AM
Lynne - You are right. Chalk me up as beign taken over by an alien!

Dark Running - It stinks. COuld not see the bike path through the leaves last night. WIth a still healing hip, the acorns and walnuts hiding below hurt a bit. My pace has taken a nose dive, probably not the right term for going up, but you know what I mean. Poor dh just said that he was too fast last week, so the too slow this week is balance. I hope it comes back soon, though. :( Still grateful that I'm able to run again, although the hip's a little tender today. I don't think falling on the church steps SUnday, tripping over teh shower rod yesterday right before ruinning, long story, or the on trail obstructions helped. No way can I find any daylight, as I work from dark to dark. Just going to have ot be haoppy that it is still farily good weather, although the wind could go away.

TXBelle
11-08-2005, 09:02 AM
My hip still hurts so I am resting it again today. However, rest is hard because even walking aggravates it. I tried ice yesterday during work, but that didn't seem to help. I used the heating pad last night and that helped. I took an advil this morning, and the pain has subsided. I am trying to decide what exercises I can do to keep on track with training. I am going to try cycling, but I am not sure if that will work because of the pressure that can be put on the hips. I might try the elliptical, but if walking hurts, I am not sure if the elliptical will be low impact enough. I may have to try the pool at my MIL's house. Swimming or water exercises may be the best.

Next time, when I get the bright idea to start running more and running for as long as possible just to see how far I can run, somebody stop me! This is a classic "overuse" injury. I just need to face the fact that I am going to walk/run the 1/2 marathon (not run/walk) and accept the improvement that I have made since I walked the 1/2 in January and went just fast enough to beat the sweepers but not in time to get an official time (although I got my Donald medal). Then in January, I can start training to run/walk the Disneyland 1/2 and the Disney World full in 2007. Then, in January 2007, I can start training to run the marathon in 2008. :dog2: I will eventually be a big dog, it's just going to take a little time to get there. :paw:

TXBelle
11-08-2005, 09:08 AM
And I went back and found my first post from January:

Howdy! I am Heather (35), mother of 4 beautiful daughters (6,4, 4, and 1). I walked the 1/2 marathon this year and was part of the 2005 WISH Walkers. My goal is to run the 1/2 marathon in 2006. My DH will be running the full marathon again. Come on all you WISHers, join us!



Running the 1/2? Next year for sure! :flower:

wtpclc
11-08-2005, 09:14 AM
Heather - That's the problem I had. I took Advil so I could walk normal. I think favoring it makes it worse. Also, be sure to clear the way of obstacles. I would still ice, though. I've hear rotating het and ice is good. Ice is best at taking away the inflamation, although it does not feel as comforting as heat. You may want to try icy hot patches too.

Minnie
11-08-2005, 09:24 AM
Heather - I'm so sorry to hear that you are having a similar problem. :wizard: :wizard: to you that it heals quickly!

Okay guys I've been reading but not posting lately because I have come to the conclusion that I will likely not be at the 1/2 this year :guilty: . The sciatic is not improving as the pain is horrible when I try to train. I think it is too close at this point to try and make an attempt at it. My heart truly breaks with this post :sad:

Best of luck to everyone. I will be there with you all in spirit :love:

keenercam
11-08-2005, 09:25 AM
Reposting from a while ago -- offer still open!

Interesting Question For All Of You!

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Is anyone interested in renting a bedroom for Friday and Saturday nights?

Here is the deal. Our kids aren’t coming with us and we have a 2 bedroom villa at Beach Club Villas. We would be willing to rent the second bedroom out to someone those two nights, and if you are running the marathon, you wouldn't have to "move out" until after the event, so you could go back to the villa and do laundry, do a recovery meal, etc..

For those of you who don’t know, the villas have a full-size washer & dryer (great for washing post-event sweaty clothes) and a full-size kitchen. Beach Club Villas is also an easy walk to and from EPCOT (through the International Gateway during operating hours) and has an amazing pool complex -- Stormalong Bay.

If you are interested, send me a PM.

ETA: I believe the 2nd BR in all the units has 2 full or queen sized beds.

It just occurred to me that there are some new faces around here and while there is still time to cancel other reservations if one wants to, I thought I'd put this offer out there again. If you are interested either post here or PM me. And there are many people who move to "cheaper digs" Friday and Saturday nights because of higher $ or points rates, so this might be a great option for anyone who is considering doing that.

plutosmyfav
11-08-2005, 09:27 AM
Sunny - I had to click on the WISH clipart archive just to see what was there. Then I began to wonder.... Is anyone else running to disney? Will you make it before the marathon?

I am a total slug today. I have been eating cereal and surfing the net while the boy is napping! I need to be finishing my bible study (which i am behind on and have to do by Wed.) and taking a nap for myself!!!!! One more handful of cereal... Yum, yum

There is a "Walking to Disney" challenge, but of course I had to be different and make mine exclusively "Running to Disney" :earboy2: Its really fun, you figure out the miles from your house to your resort of choice (mine is the Polynesian, but I won't be staying there due to cost). I used mapquest to get my mileage. Then you log your miles and put away money per mile (mine is supposed to be $2/mile) so when you arrive virtually, you have the money to go for real! The WISH clipart archive is the clip art I've made for WISH. I put it in my siggie incase people might want to reuse it someday.


OK, I've hit the wall. In my four years of serious fitness training I have never encountered this before. I told you about my Stonker run yesterday. Well, I went to the gym afterwork for a lower body weight session and absolutely couldn't do it. I could barely lift the plates to load the leg press. It wasn't that I was tired or unmotivated, it was that I truly could not do it. Of course, I didn't take it well. A reasonable person would have recognized it as a sign of overtraining and "listened" to her body. Me? I threw a temper tantrum. (In my head of course, so as not to draw attention to myself). I went to the cardio room and did the elliptical at minimal exertion for 30 minutes and called it a night. I couldn't get out of bed today. But its so dramatic and so "all of the sudden" that I suspect I might have a virus.

Today will really be a rest day. No fooling around.

Sunny

keenercam
11-08-2005, 10:01 AM
Sunny -- it really sounds like your body is screaming louder and louder to get you to take a little rest. Glad to hear you plan to listen to it today.

My biggest issue lately is my voracious appetite. It is insane. I don't ever remember being this insatiable in my life. My stomach growls almost all the time and sometimes I even feel light headed like I need to eat, even right after a meal. UGH! Still working on finding the right foods to deal with this.

Minnie
11-08-2005, 10:05 AM
Sunny - I've had the flu for the last four days and so has several people in the office as well as their kids. Take care as this stuff is no fun!

Tiger Lily 03
11-08-2005, 10:16 AM
Nostalgia! What a trip down the lane. I may take the time to look for mine. Not sure.Thanks for the ideas though.

Karen, hope to see you join in the cheering squad for sure. Are you still going to TE dinner do you think?

Sunny, sorry about your stonkers. Hope it is just temporary.

I'm motivating with a killer back ache. It is muscular, but I am not sure if it is related to my yesterday, my LR weekend, or just another new thing to deal with. Sitting in yet another class not feeling like I am able to hang in at the moment.

Back to class

wtpclc
11-08-2005, 10:24 AM
Lily - Myback was sore during my LR Saturday and a little last night. Was not saure if it was from ab w/o Wednesday, putting fanny pack in front or just a lot of running. NOthing terrible though. Hope yours gets better soon!

princessmomma
11-08-2005, 11:02 AM
OK it's not Disney, but I'm sure it will be a really interesting run. Anyone going to try the Las Vegas Marathon (http://www.lvmarathon.com/) ?


Nancy, wow, you have really improved your pace, keep at it and we will see you in 2007!! :cool1:

My sister (the one who ran a marathon in Canada last month signed up for Las Vegas on December 3rd. (She is on a modified 7 week turn around training plan to get her ready for this one. She is still hoping to qualify for Boston, I hope she doesn't burn her self out.) She is going with a group of friends so it will be interesting the reports back.

Sunny, Sunny, Sunny, what you are going through is totally normal. At this stage of the training we have all ramped up our distances, feeling a little fatigue, a few aches, etc. and the marathon is still 2 months away. I thing John Bingham writes something about this phrase of training in his book and he says it is totally normal. A few days of rest won't hurt your training plan at all and you will come back invigorated! PD to you, you WILL break out of this. :cheer2:

Minnie, take care of yourself. I know this was a hard decision for you, but you are wise to listen to your body. :grouphug:

Woohoo Heather! Love your plans for future races. You go girl! :bounce:

disnutt, if you haven't purchased our Garmin yet, the best price I found was on amazon.com with free shipping. Check it out.

Off for some speed work today.

Colleen

littlegreydonkey
11-08-2005, 01:32 PM
Hi Sunny - definitely take a couple of days off. I get to that stage every few months and running when you're in it really demoralises you - but trust me, after two or even three days off your first run will be an absolute breeze and you'll remember why you wanted to do the race - and it won't make any difference at all to your training programme - just make sure you do your long run this week at some point so you don't end up jumping distances too much. Helen

welovedis
11-08-2005, 02:30 PM
TigerLily-I'll plan on being there to cheer on the 1/2ers at least! I didn't plan on attending the TE dinner (we were going to have dinner with friends at WL who were going to watch our son). Wish I could meet up with all of you, but looks like it will be another time!

welovedis
11-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Is it possible for me & DH to give up our 1/2 spots to someone else?

I know that the "official" time would be recorded under our names, but it is possible for us to pick up our race packets and get the chips set up, then give them to someone else who wants to run but missed the cut-off?

I mean, we'll be at the expo to get our 5K stuff anyway and I'll probably pick up my packet just to have it, lol....if anyone can see any pros/cons to this, let me know.

kaf7878
11-08-2005, 03:41 PM
Hi Everyone--

Well at the end of the week I will be half way through my training plan (of course now I am doign the hard half!). DH and I did a 10 mile run Sunday which was our longest run during our half training last year. So now I feel like its up, up, up from here. The 10 m was good but I was feeling a little quesy afterward.

We just have a few 4 milers this week and an 8 miler Friday. Yeah!

MelRhoads
11-08-2005, 03:44 PM
Last big workout this week!

Since i have an adventure race this weekend I'm resting most of the week. I did speed work this morning and actually did the 3.1 miles faster than my best 5k and that included the walking!!! Still not as fast as Sunny's first place score though!! After I finished, Phil and I went mt. biking in a new place. We had a huge climb. OUCH LEGS and BOOTIE!!!!! It was beautiful and the leaves were incredible. I only fell once. I think it was my best mountain bike ride ever.

I just found pics posted from the last adventure race. Not that anyone really wants to see, but here is a pic of me rappelling of a big railroad tressel (sp) into the Arkansas river in Little Rock YUCK!
http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=0ESP0000000543&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1&d=0&pphoto=0ESP0000000542

Lisa loves Pooh
11-08-2005, 03:46 PM
Officially you can't--but technically..they don't card you at the entry. However--once the chip is in your hands--you are liable for it.
(My coaches don't even run with theirs. I have no idea what they do with them--but when they are coaching, they are not racing--so do not wear the chip so as not to be tempted for running for time).

gatorphipps
11-08-2005, 03:54 PM
Sunny - I totally know how you feel. You may be getting sick - but it may be time to take a rest. You have been hittining it hard for a long time now. At this point in the training, I always feel a bit tired. A few days off will help you, but to agree with Helen, do the LR.

Minnie - So sorry to hear this. You are wise to know when to stop though.

Keenercam - right there with you on the being hungry all the time. I try to drink around 8 oz of chocolate milk right after a LR. This sometimes helps me not be so hungry. :confused3 Well, not really, I am still hungry. :rotfl:

I am almost over my cold. Except for this cough I have. I ran 3 miles today and every step was an effort. I looked to make sure my TM was set right. It was. Ended up doing right under 10 MPM. This pace is not great for a short run, but I needed the extra time. Then some ab work. Going to the doctor tomorow 0900 for the toe followup. Send me :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: so I can start swimming again.

Christa

Tiger Lily 03
11-08-2005, 08:50 PM
Minnie, :hug: sorry that you have found you must make this decision. I WISH that you will be able to continue with your training and be more than ready for the 2007 event. Continue onward as you are able and stay with us here to cheer us on and prepare for your event next year.

Karen, I don't think you will be permitted to transfer your spots this year. I remember it said something that you would be "guaranteed" a spot for the next year if you had to cancel. Of course you still have to pay for that spot as all the money for this event gets pooled and donated as the final $ count. You definitely get your packet, just turn in your chip, or more, don't take the chip. You get the shirt and can use it to train for the event in 2007.

I have been sitting on the heating pad for my back tonight. I WILL feel better tomorrow. I WILL!

Off I go to read up some more...

Lisa loves Pooh
11-08-2005, 09:25 PM
Lily is right--but you gotta cancel. Not picking up the packet, I don't believe is the same.

I haven't been able to keep up with the thread--just poppin' in every now and again.
Minnie--you can't race? So sorry to hear that and hope you heal!

TEK224
11-09-2005, 12:01 AM
Minnie - sorry to hear you won't be able to race this year. Better to get healthy and race another time (not that that makes you feel better).

Sunny - take a day or two to rest your body. I'm fighting a cold now myself. Two days ago my body felt totally wiped. I walked instead of doing anything else and yesterday I did nothing but take it easy. I feel better today and hope the cold is going away.

Tonight I did 75 minutes on the spinner. Felt pretty good and the quad is starting to feel better too. :goodvibes

Terri

TiffJ
11-09-2005, 07:08 AM
Yesterday was my SR. Did approx 3.5 miles. But the big news is my first ever negative splits! Mile 2 was 14:11 and mile 3 was.......14:04 :banana:
I called DH & told him when I was done & he said "uh, what's a negative split?"
Several other people had that same reaction. I felt like the big athlete knowing what it was, having done it & now bragging about it. Just another confirmation that I have been captured by those aliens we have been talking about.

Oh- and about becoming one of "those" people. I remember way back in the 1st week or 2 of training. Me & the family went to the walking trail. Total trail is 2 miles. Now of course we weren't going fast because had both kids(little one on bike) We were doing 3 miles so I could show DS8 how far it was before he decided to do the 5k. Well while we were there there was this one runner that we kept seeing over an over because he kept going back & forth, back & forth. I remember commenting on it to DH. This is me now. UNBELIEVABLE!

Minnie-I am so sorry! Maybe you can make it for the 15K in May.

Terri-hope you continue to get better

MelR-too cool! You amaze me with all those adventure races.

Keep up the great work everyone! Can you believe I am actually excited that I have xt today. Before the only thing that would excite me was "not" having to exercise. Now I actually look forward to it because I know it keeps me going in the right direction.

Oh I found this funny book. As some may remember, I am hoping to start training for a triathlon after January. Slow Fat Triathlete it shows you that you can do it if you really want to no matter your size or athletic abilities right now. Just to go for it. I am really starting to incorporate this attitude and it is all because of you guys. You got me started on this really cool journey & I cant tell you how grateful I am for it.

Sorry so long, didnt get to post yesterday, had to catch up.

welovedis
11-09-2005, 07:20 AM
Tiger & Lisa-Thanks for the info. I wasn't thinking that I'd "officially" transfer, just meet up with a DISer or a friend of a DISer that couldn't commit & didn't meet the deadline, but wanted to run. Now that Lisa reminded me about the chip, I guess I'd want to be sure that it got returned, etc...so it probably isn't a good idea.

Hmm, if I pick up my race packet & get my chip set, I could always change my mind at the last minute, lol! :)

aladdinsgirl
11-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Hello everyone, sorry I've been MIA--still trying to recover from vacation. Running is seriously cutting into my life!! I have 3 loads of clean laundry that have been sitting in baskets since Sunday waiting to be put away, 2 more loads that need to be washed, and our suitcases are still in our bedroom (full of clothes) from Disney--we got back a week and a half ago!! I don't know where the time goes. :)

Training was been going pretty good for me. My lr on Saturday was 6 miles--the longest I've ever done, I finished in 1:13, I was really pleased with that time. My sr on Monday was not that great, but there were a lot of factors that came into play--my shorts were not the kind I usually run in (because my running shorts were all dirty :rolleyes: ), so they were uncomfortable, my socks weren't on right, my ankle brace was hurting my foot, and I had to use the facilities SO bad the entire time. I was running at work, there is 3/4 mile running/bike path around the perimeter of the building, but it was after 5:00 and I'm not important enough to have a key, so I just had to hold it. Hoping for a better run tonight, although it's most likely going to be on the TM. Oh, I have a question about the corrals. I signed up to finish in 3:10, so I'm in the last corral, my times reflect that I'll finish before 3 hours, so I should be in a higher corral. My Mom is walking the half and she is the last corral as well, I don't want to change corrals because I'd like to start with her. How difficult is it to work your way through the slower people? Will it really effect my time? Or is it honestly not a big deal at all? I plan on starting at the front of my corral, hopefully that will help.

Minnie--I'm so sorry you can't run the half. :grouphug: I feel so bad, I feel like I talked you into it and now you are disappointed. Please forgive me!! :flower3: :)

MelR--That's a great picture of you!! I'm not sure how this is going to come out, but your legs are AWESOME!!!! :teeth:

Tiff-- :cheer2: :cheer2: for negative splits!!! :cheer2: :cheer2: I did my first negative splits in Disney, I chalk it up to the Disney magic! :wizard:

Lisa--I can't believe your determination to get back in the game! I know I would have milked the recoop time. You rock!!

Heather--I hope you figure out what is going on with your hip. I know how frustrating an injury can be.

Sunny--Hope you are feeling better!! I agree that you need some good old fashion laziness!!

Oh, I have a Garmin question for you guru's out there. I have my lap pace set on 1 mile lap. My past 2 runs--which were in 2 different locations, app. 15 miles apart; my lap pace has been messed up, it doesn't beep at the mile mark, but the mile.20 mark and it's off an lap. Example: it beeped at 2.20 on Saturday and it said that I was on lap 3. What is going on? If I turn the lap pace function off and turn it back on, will it reset itself? You gotta love technology!!

Sorry I can't respond to everyone today, but I've already spent way too much time on these boards!!! :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: to those nursing injuries and illnesses. For the half people--59 days from now (10:30) it'll all be over!! For the full people--60 days from now you'll be hauling. :cheer2: :cheer2: Happy training!!!

Krista princess:

Minnie
11-09-2005, 12:22 PM
Krista - Please do not feel bad!!!!! I would never have gotten the courage to register and come this far without all the support that I have found on this board. I feel truly blessed that strangers (well used to be strangers anyway) would take so much time out of their busy lives to try and help this tiny :dog2: . I could not have come this far without you all :goodvibes

Since the pain has not diminished I contacted my PT again yesterday and will likely have a scan done at the end of the month to see what is causing the pain.

:Pinkbounc Possible happy note: She also said that if I keep my cardio up that the 1/2 is not out totaly out of the picture yet :Pinkbounc .

She said to strech, ice, do my PT, and try to do light cardio and see how things go. So what do you all think guys? If I get the go ahead is a month enough time to train for this? My longest wog was 6 miles previous to the injury.

Happy training and as much :wizard: as this Minnie Mouse can spread to all of you!!!!!!!!!!

keenercam
11-09-2005, 01:04 PM
Hi, everyone! Not much new to report, but wanted to pop in and congratulate everyone on all the great training I have been reading about.

Mel -- That picture is awesome! I WISH my legs would look anywhere near that good some day. You look so courageous!

Lisa -- so glad to hear you are on track with getting back to regular training.

Minnie -- I was going to post how sorry I was to hear you'd be on the sidelines, but now I am going to send you :goodvibes: and :wizard: that you may be able to show up at the start line on 1/6. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to walk it at a pace to beat the sweepers and still finish, even with all you've been through? I'd suggest definitely working on whatever your PT clears you for, and see how you feel in a couple of weeks. Good luck!

Lily and everyone else who have reassured me that there will be people to see at the "W" at the finish -- thank you so much. I read Lily's post last night and broke into tears. DH probably thought I was nuts, but I can tell he really "gets it" -- the fat lady may just pull this off, if she doesn't collapse in a puddle of tears before the finish.

christa -- I may just have to try the chocolate milk thing, especially as I sit here in my office with my stomach growling loud enough for my secretary to hear. :rotfl: Had lots of protein for breakfast -- lite ham on lite multigrain english muffins, and it didn't hold me until lunch time. Still working on the magical mix.

Lily -- How's your back today, sweetie? Hoping you are back to 100%

Terri -- 70 minutes is very impressive! How did you keep from getting bored? ;)

Tiff -- awesome negative splits! :banana:

Krista -- sorry I can't help with the Garmin issue. Mine seems to be working fine, but I'm not sure I'd know if it weren't. Everytime someone posts about some "glitch" I somewhat panic because I rely on mine absolutely for pace and distance and I am worried that relying on it that much at the 1/2 could backfire on me if it is off at all. Guess I'll just work to be even faster, so that if there is a margin of error, it doesn't sabotage me. :confused:

Oh, so since I did my LW on Sunday (did 6.8 miles -- had modified my MfMWtH schedule to accomodate my little surgical procedure next week), I took Monday as a rest day and then, since I was sufficiently motivated, did nearly 80 minutes total last night -- 40 minutes on TM at (~15:25 pace), 20 minutes on bike, and almost 20 on elliptical. Today is a rest day, but I had to walk down 14 floors in heels for a fire drill -- felt like XT to me! If I weren't time pressured, I'd have walked back up (carrying my heels, of course! :teeth: ) Tomorrow is walking and speed/form drills, which I realized I have been doing all wrong. Was supposed to be 30 seconds speed/1 minute walk. I was doing 1 minute speed/2 mins walk. :confused3 I may actually try the right formula tomorrow and see how that goes.

Happy training all (sorry so long!)

zoegirl
11-09-2005, 01:21 PM
Hey guys!! I'm back from The World! I told Mickey that ya'll said "hi ya!" and you will see him in a few weeks! He said he can't wait to cheer you on during the race. Well actually he just bobbed his head around but I'm sure that's what he was saying. :rotfl2:
I wish I could say that I was a good girl and ran while down there but I can't. I did however walk all over the place. So much so that I got really bad leg cramps one night. Not a fun expereince but I'm sure DH got a good laugh watching me jump around the room in pain.
Things are really crazy here. We found out the day before we left for vacation that our neighbor wants to rent our house but needs us to be out this weekend (we were going to put it up for rent in January and go live in a smaller house that my family owns but those plans have been moved up a bit). So needless to say I'm a little stressed this week. I am getting back into the swing of things with running and excersising. I have to, I think I gained 5 pounds on vacation. How can I be expected to be good when there are such yummy places like Beaches and Cream and things like Dole Whips to be eaten. Don't even get me started on mickey head rice krispy treats. I bought 3 to bring home to get me through the next few weeks. :rotfl: I need to run just so I'll fit into my jeans ;)

Anyway, I ran my 10 last Saturday and I'll be doing a double LR this week and next week so I'll be on track again, all while trying to get both houses ready to move....UGGGHHHH!!!
So if I'm not around much the next couple weeks that's where I'm at. I'll try to stay up to date , but don't forget me if I don't post for a while.

~bree~

Jodi
11-09-2005, 01:22 PM
OMG miss Keenercam!!!!! Training the way you are, there's no way your belly WOULDN'T be growling by lunch...EAT WOMAN!!! You gotta eat snacks b-4 lunch. I eat a 1/2 cup of oatmeal in the a.m. & I'm hungry an hour later. So, I bring a box of raisins (wash them down w/ tons of water) a bananna (wash it down w/ tons of water) & a protein drink (if I can afford it that day) for after lunch. I also bring natural peanut butter & a spoon :goodvibes . How 'bout some whole grain blue tortilla chip or something to curb that salt craving, too. Hey, no wonder why I can't lose that last 10lbs. But seriously, you're an athlete now, really! You have to feed your body, just try & make it good stuff. Not like the donut I had last night w/ a cup of tea!

Minnie - So glad you may make it after all! I say keep training when you get the green light. You've almost gone 7 miles already, just work up slowly, no 6 miles on the first day back!

Krista - WTG on your Lrun ever. Awesome time, too.

Sunny - Hope you're resting up, I get tired just reading your posts!

Tiffj- Or should I call you NegativeTiffj? Good for you.

Everyone else, keep going, heal quickly. Tomorrow is a 50 min. run, and my LR is back down to 4 mi. Sat. Anyone think it's a problem doing my LR on Friday instead? I'm going to NYC on Sat. & don't want to get up super early to run first. Friday's a day off...Since it's only 4 miles (only, she says) I didn't think it'd be so bad to do them back to back. Although my knees may say otherwise...

Jodi

MelRhoads
11-09-2005, 01:29 PM
Tiff - congrats on the negative splits. I really need to start pacing myself better at the beginning so I can savor that experience!

Krista - Glad to see you are back! I with you on the training cutting into my time!!! It seems like laundry is just not as fun as running. Maybe being an endurance housekeeper/mom is harder than being an endurace athlete!!!! :) Since I'm a football idiot, I always wonder "I wonder what Krista thinks of this" when I read the T. Owens headlines on yahoo.
Oh yeah, one more thing, you know you have become hard core when you can't run in the gear that you love! Like (I think Carrie said it) you have become that girl

Cam - I would definitely say that stairs and a fire drill count as x training!!!

Christa - I like the chocolate milk idea. Any well justified reason to consume chocolate sounds good to me!

Who had the Garmin question??? Anyway, on auto lap, it will give you the lap 1 mile from the last time the time was stopped. If you have it on auto pause, this may be causing the prob. You may also have forgotten to reset it from you last run which ended with a final lap of .2. The other thing I would check is to be sure that auto lap is on 1 mile. other than that, I don't know!!!

Unlike Cam, I keep wishing my garmin would have some prob. I got a 101 for christmas last year and I didn't know about the cool download function of the 201. I'm waiting for mine to croak so I can upgrade. does anyone know if the 201 and 301 will synch with a mac?

50K anyone??? I really want to do a trail run in Feb I think it is on the 19th. EC has an adventure race that weekend and won't be there to keep me company. Anyone want to come to Arkansas to do it with me. I'm guessing my pace would be around 14min miles. Unfortunately, this one isn't one of the free ones, but it should be fun!!!

plutosmyfav
11-09-2005, 01:39 PM
Welcome back Bree! I'm glad you had the heart-to-heart with Mickey on our behalf :rotfl2:

MelR-- Awsome pictures! You are amazing! DS was watching with me and couldn't wait 'till we got to the picture of you in the water! He did ask a million questions of "what is she doing? why is she doing that? where is she hanging from?". As far as the 50K goes, I would LOVE to try it, but I just don't think I could sell the family on it! They think I've lost it as it is, I can't imagine telling them "I'm going to Arkansas to run 31 miles with a person I met on the internet..." :rotfl: :rotfl2: That's not much time after Goofy. Boy are you brave!

Krista-- congrats on your longest run ever :cheer2: I think MelR answered the Gramin question really well. Hope that fixes it.

I'm still feeling pretty down about not being full of energy but I'll get over it! I don't know if I'll get any exercise in today.

Sunny

plutosmyfav
11-09-2005, 01:51 PM
Oh I have a Garmin question. How do you get your splits out of it if you down upload to the pc? All I can see on the screen is average pace and fastest pace in the history.

I don't know where my manual is :rolleyes:

MelRhoads
11-09-2005, 02:07 PM
My last post must have been too long, because while I was typing it, there were more posts up and I almost missed them!!!

Bree - welcome back. UUUGGHHHHH. That is my sympathy groan for you. I hate moving!!!!!!!! UUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHH there is another one!!

Minnie - I say keep up the cardio!!!! I hope you get some good news. 6 is a ton of work to have already put in and you can miss a couple of weeks and still jump right back into it!!!! You've built up endurance over several weeks/months and that is not lost on a few missed workouts!

Sunny - On this pics in the water, I was watching my teammate and neighbor making sure he got off rappell ok. After he hit the water I took off to the bank and we got back on the bikes after that. There are some great pics of the bike sections, but I didn't have the heart to put up a link to those because my face was so distorted!!!! I didn't realize that I make such scarry faces when I'm carrying my bike though waist deep water through a water drain under the freeway!!! did I mention YUCK!!!! The race this weekend should be cleaner. It was last year. We actually went inside the Raddison and walked the stairs up to the roof. The funny thing was we were nasty and dirty and when we came in, they were having a wedding reception inside. I'm sure the lovely bride really appreciated a bunch of smelly teams coming through. We also had to take off our bike shoes so our cleats wouldn't damage the floor, so we were barefooted! We'll see, they may make us get dirtier this year but I doubt it.

As for the 50K, your family won't think you are crazy for running with someone that you only met on the internet, because, we will have really met by then!!! They might think your crazy for the 31 miles on the trail. I figure goofy will be the perfect training for it. I'll probably never be in this good of shape again. I won't plan on running the whole thing. I'll rest when needed and then walk when the terrain is really rough! Think about it!!! You can start a running to arkansas graphic and save up the money!!!! :rotfl2:

Lisa loves Pooh
11-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Tiger & Lisa-Thanks for the info. I wasn't thinking that I'd "officially" transfer, just meet up with a DISer or a friend of a DISer that couldn't commit & didn't meet the deadline, but wanted to run. Now that Lisa reminded me about the chip, I guess I'd want to be sure that it got returned, etc...so it probably isn't a good idea.

Hmm, if I pick up my race packet & get my chip set, I could always change my mind at the last minute, lol! :)

I'd say since you have nothing to lose--that you join the party...and then when the sweeper bus comes--you can be the official sweeper bus cheerleader. :cheer2:

B/c--"what if...you just happen to finish". ;)

plutosmyfav
11-09-2005, 02:11 PM
As for the 50K, your family won't think you are crazy for running with someone that you only met on the internet, because, we will have really met by then!!! They might think your crazy for the 31 miles on the trail. I figure goofy will be the perfect training for it. I'll probably never be in this good of shape again. I won't plan on running the whole thing. I'll rest when needed and then walk when the terrain is really rough! Think about it!!! You can start a running to arkansas graphic and save up the money!!!! :rotfl2:

I could just show them your pics and say, "see, she's just an average, ordinary mom... hanging from a railroad trussel...." :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

littlegreydonkey
11-09-2005, 02:36 PM
Karen/Minnie - I was going to say what Lisa said. If you feel up to it on the day, just go out there and start. Think 'if I get swept, or have to stop, no biggie, I wouldn't get the medal if I'd stayed in bed anyway' and then see what happens. Run a bit, walk a bit, skip a bit (who was doing skipping training way back when?) have your photo's taken and just see where you are at 3.29.59!!!

Did my 14km yesterday - not too bad, slightly achy knees so will have to move my orthotics about before my 26km this weekend. Just the 8km tonightm will probably run down to see my normal training buddy do the first aquathon (swim then run) of the year - oddly, I'm not tempted to join them. Especially as another friend got stung on the nose by a jellyfish at the same beach on Sunday!!!! Helen

Disneefun
11-09-2005, 03:58 PM
Karen/Minnie - I was going to say what Lisa said. If you feel up to it on the day, just go out there and start. Think 'if I get swept, or have to stop, no biggie, I wouldn't get the medal if I'd stayed in bed anyway' and then see what happens. Run a bit, walk a bit, skip a bit (who was doing skipping training way back when?)


The skipper was me. :rotfl2: I still skip a little when the urge strikes, much to the wonderment of my neighbors. It gives certain muscles a rest and engages others, keeping me from getting so tired. Plus it's fun to see the stares...

I haven't been posting much lately, but I've been reading and keeping up. Just had a lot going on with various projects, etc. My training's been going well -- my ankle got a little tweaky last week but it seems to have passed with a couple of days of rest. I'm up to 16 miles this sat., followed by 8 on sun. Beginning to believe that this whole Goofy thing wasn't so crazy after all.

PD to all who are hurting and having other training traumas. I'm rooting for everybody!!! :cheer2:

Jennifer

gatorphipps
11-09-2005, 04:42 PM
Melissa - Love the pics! I would love to do the 50k, but may do Myrtle Beach Marathon in Feb. Nice very flat course that I may go for a PR on. Cannot do that @ WDW (or Charlotte) b/c of the Goofy.

Minnie - :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: and :cool1: :banana: to you! I hope you can do the 1/2

Jennifer - I sometimes skip too. It is really fun and gives me a burst of energy!

Starting to taper for the Charlotte Marathon! I LOVE the taper. :love: Anyway....will do 12 this week...then only 8 & 16 for the double LRs next week. 12 on the week of Thanksgiving (and maybe a Turkey Trot - an 8k). December 3rd is the marathon. Will have to run 10 the day b/4. This will be great training! Ron keeps saying this will be a slow LR...not a race for a PR. That will be so hard not to go race pace!
Send me extra :wizard: b/c I have a show that night with my production company. I hope I will not be too sore b/c we have to run all over the place and have to make very quick costume changes many times!
Did 4 miles today with DH.
:hourglass Getting so close!
Christa

princessmomma
11-09-2005, 06:01 PM
Starting to taper for the Charlotte Marathon! I LOVE the taper. :love: Anyway....will do 12 this week...then only 8 & 16 for the double LRs next week. 12 on the week of Thanksgiving (and maybe a Turkey Trot - an 8k). December 3rd is the marathon. Will have to run 10 the day b/4.
Christa

OMG Christa, that is your TAPER!!

You go girl!

disnutt
11-09-2005, 08:09 PM
Has anyone seen this story?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4421446.stm

It was bad enough when during my first marathon I was passed by a group of 50-Staters who were in their 70s and they beat me. I'm now used to that. :blush: However, I will not allow a 3 yo to beat me!

I'm newly committed to my training just to ensure I beat his time. :rotfl:

Seriously, how sad that this boy's mother felt that she had to sell him. Maybe he's been given running as a gift to help get him out of poverty.

Lisa loves Pooh
11-09-2005, 09:42 PM
In 2 hours and 17 minutes......


:bday:
:cake:



:teeth: :cheer2: ;) :smooth: :hourglass princess: :wave: :rolleyes1 :wave2: :cool1: :flower:

TEK224
11-10-2005, 12:10 AM
Hi everybody!

Did 65 minutes on exercise bike tonight. I'm really getting into a groove with the bike/elliptical training.

Cam - the bike ride doesn't get boring for me becuase I ride while watching my favorite tv shows. :)

During the summer it was great because I'd turn the tv on the Tour de France and ride along with Lance. When they climbed the hills so did I (not as fast or as long, though). I had great workouts, then the Tour ended :rolleyes:

Lisa - HAPPY BIRTHDAY girl! :cool1: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Terri

TiffJ
11-10-2005, 07:26 AM
Happy Birthday Lisa!!!!!

Terri-great job on the bike!

Not really any news to report today is an off day. (and those aliens that have inhabited by body dont even want an off day, they want to exercise)

crzy4pooh
11-10-2005, 07:38 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LISA!!!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/crzy4pooh/clipmickbirth.gif


I did 2.5 last night - have had knee issues since Monday's short run, so took it very slowly. It's my left knee on the outside of the kneecap. I had an injury in college, and have had to be careful ever since. I even wore my knee brace to run, but didn't seem to help. UGH!!! So, today I will try to get to the aquatic center for xtrain and we'll see how that goes. :)

Hope everyone has a great training day!!! P and PD for all the injured!!! :wizard:

Wish I lived in Fl
11-10-2005, 08:07 AM
I'll be watching Maximun Exposure at 5 tonight and Wildest police chases at 6 on Spike TV for my 100 minute walking . It keeps me going without boredom.

TXBelle
11-10-2005, 08:29 AM
Happy Birthday Lisa! :cake:

I am still resting my hip. I am going to take it easy this weekend and only do a short walk (probably 3 miles). Depending on how I feel, I may do a 12 mile bike ride on Sunday.

Garmin Alert: sharperimage.com has the Garmin 201 on sale for $99.99 with free shipping. What a deal!

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 08:39 AM
Happy Birthday Lisa!!!!!!!! :banana: :cool1: :sunny: :earsgirl: :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :bounce:

msblrobs
11-10-2005, 08:41 AM
Happy, Happy Birthday Lisa!!

4 miles for me this a.m. I am kind of getting frustrated at the nagging pain in my left foot from the plantar faciitis. It is tolerable, albeit annoying, and I am trying my best with the icing, stretching and ibuprofen.

I am scheduled for 9 miles on Saturday and 17 for Sunday, so I may rest tomorrow in anticipation of that.

I am running to the mailbox daily looking for the elusive race packet. The suspense is nearly killing me!! Anyone who gets their packet, please post so those of us suffering can take comfort that it will not be much longer!!

wtpclc
11-10-2005, 08:56 AM
Happy Birthday Lisa! :bday:

Hope anyone with out a Garmin caught that alert by TXBelle! That's a great deal!!!

keenercam
11-10-2005, 09:17 AM
Happy Birthday, Lisa! :cake: Hope you get to do something fun!

Minnie
11-10-2005, 09:17 AM
Garmin Alert: sharperimage.com has the Garmin 201 on sale for $99.99 with free shipping. What a deal!


Has anyone ever ordered from them before? I've been wanting to purchase one and that is quite a deal.

keenercam
11-10-2005, 09:43 AM
Happy Birthday Lisa! :cake:

I am still resting my hip. I am going to take it easy this weekend and only do a short walk (probably 3 miles). Depending on how I feel, I may do a 12 mile bike ride on Sunday.

Garmin Alert: sharperimage.com has the Garmin 201 on sale for $99.99 with free shipping. What a deal!

I tried to order but the shipping came up as 14.95. Is there a special code or something?

TEK224
11-10-2005, 10:10 AM
Sara - here's a little tip for the plantar fascitis problem (it worked for me).

Years ago I was having severe pain in my foot. Could not even put my heel down when I walked. I went to the foot doctor and he checked it out and told me I had plantar fascitis.

First he wanted to give me shot (NO WAY! :earseek: ) Then he was going to put it in a boot. I asked if there were any other options. He told me to wear high heel-ed shoes for the next week to see if that helped. (I'm not a high heel person, but it was the best of the three choices). He said wearing the heels would keep the pressure off the tendon.

I did that and it worked like a charm! :) Only once since did I have a similar problem. Out came the heels and the problem went away.

It's good to know those heels are good for something!
Terri

msblrobs
11-10-2005, 11:10 AM
Terri - Thanks so much for the advice!! I am not much of a high-heel person either, but my job definitely affords me the opportunity to wear them. I would be so extremely grateful if that's all it took to solve my problem once and for all.

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 12:06 PM
I need some action!!!!! I'm resting this week until the adventure race on Saturday. I'm going crazy. I need you guys to post your athletic exploits in detail so I'll have something to do!!!!!! :confused3

keenercam
11-10-2005, 12:36 PM
Hey, Melissa! Sorry you are getting cabin fever! My current athletic exploit is getting up and going to the water cooler as frequently as possible. The wall of windows in my office is distressing because I can see a gorgeous blue sky with puffy little clouds and I know it is nearly 60 degrees and I WANNA GO FOR A LW!!!!! How pathetic! You have my sympathy! Or is that empathy? :teeth:
Doing 40 minutes tonight and speed drills "the right way" -- I had been doing 1 min fast walk/ 2 mins normal. Should have been 30 seconds/1minutex4. What was I thinking? Looking forward to giving it a try tonight. :banana:

keenercam
11-10-2005, 12:46 PM
Hey, I have a question. How far in advance of a workout can you stretch? For example, I usually stretch at home before I go out and sometimes I am starting my workout from our driveway and therefore going directly from stretching to exercise. Other times I stretch at home and then drive 5 -10 minutes to my starting point. Worst case is, like tonight, I will stretch in my office after I am changed and ready to leave. Then I walk to my parking garage and drive to my walking location, which takes about 20 minutes. Are the benefits of stretching lost in that interim? Do I have to wait and stretch at the start point? Or stretch some more when I get there? I wasn't sure how long muscles stay "warm" and stretched.

Lisa loves Pooh
11-10-2005, 01:08 PM
aaaack!!!

Thanks for the birthday wishes. Hubbies flight got cancelled so he won't be in until much later. At the time, I posted a thread on the DIS--and someone had to tell me about someone's husband who died on their birthday. Well, since my hubby still has a flight and a bus ride--HELLOOOOOO!!!

Thanks for the well wishes though! I'm off to the gym!

wtpclc
11-10-2005, 01:51 PM
Shirt Alert:

I was just informed that the tank tops are not recommended for women. The picture is deceiving and the armholes are very large. Please let me know if you would like to switch to sleeveless or short sleeve. I'll send out pms later, but if you want to pm me first, that'd be just dandy.

Sorry about this everyone!

Cherylbug
11-10-2005, 01:54 PM
Hi guys.

I haven't posted in a LONG LONG time and I apologize about that. Christy's (Chropistopy, my cousin) and my training is going pretty good. We've battled a few injuries over the past few months but everything seems to be turning out ok. I have been keeping up with all you guys though. You all get me motivated to get my rear end out there when I don't feel like doing anything and you just don't know how much I appreciate that!!!!

I want to remind everyone to PLEASE PLEASE be extra careful when running in the dark. I know alot of people are having to do their training in the dark because of the time change. There was a girl here in the Atlanta area this week hit by a car and killed because she was out running at night and didn't have on any reflective clothing. Just a word of warning to stay safe.

Happy training everyone!

solotraveler
11-10-2005, 02:09 PM
Hello all!!!


Lisa- Happy Birthday!!! :goodvibes


I haven't been around lately-- mostly because I have been working like a crazy person and not training as much as I should. :guilty: I have an 8 miler tomorrow I am REALLY looking forward to. I know, I'm suprised too!! :rotfl2: I think I just need to do something other than work. :teeth:

GRR GRR GRR to Northwest Airlines for cancelling my nonstop flight to Orlando for marathon week!! :headache: I just happened upon the website and the new flights (connecting through DTW) got in a whole 3 hours later than the nonstop did!! :headache: I called and was able to change to a couple flight that leaves four hours earlier and arrives two hours earlier than the old flight. But still :mad:

Anyone have their race packet yet?? :confused3

Happy training all!!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

plutosmyfav
11-10-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm baaaacccckkkkk!!!!! Maybe you didn't notice I was gone :teeth:

Unlike MelR and Cam, I have not had that "just gotta move" and boundless energy one normally associates with rest days. Nope! Since the full body mutiny on Monday I have not moved. The most exertion I did Tues and Weds was to walk between my car and my office. :rolleyes: And my general attitude during those two days was "I don't care if I ever break a sweat again. No, make that, I hope I never break a sweat again". It was scarey. I thought the IC might have finally got fed up with me and left town.

But very begrudgingly, I headed off to the gym for an upper body weight session today and voila! Instand "happy to be moving' again. Phew, that was a close one :rotfl2: I'll go back after work and do some rowing, then I should be fresh and ready for my 11K tomorrow.

While I was at the gym I talked to a guy who has run 60 marathons. He hasn't run one since 1999 after his knee replacement :( But he hopes to get one in this decade. Only problem is he can barely walk anymore. I bet he'll do it though. On Monday I met a guy at the gym who has run Disney. He said its great (duh, I knew that!!!!)

Good luck adventuring, MelR :wizard:

Sunny

princessmomma
11-10-2005, 02:43 PM
GRR GRR GRR to Northwest Airlines for cancelling my nonstop flight to Orlando for marathon week!! :headache: I just happened upon the website and the new flights (connecting through DTW) got in a whole 3 hours later than the nonstop did!! :headache: I called and was able to change to a couple flight that leaves four hours earlier and arrives two hours earlier than the old flight. But still :mad:

:

Solo, I had a similar thing happen with Delta. I had lost my info regarding flight #'s so I just checked online to get them. What, my 7:00 p.m. flight is no longer listed. :badpc: So I called and they said, "Oh there has been a flight change and you now depart Greensboro at 5:00 p.m. (well o.k. I will take that) BUT your return will now be just after 2:00 p.m. on Sunday Marathon Day!!!!! Ah............... I can't make that flight, I will be waddling back to the hotel when I should be on my Magical Express shuttle to MCO!!!!!!!!! :hourglass Alright says the agent we do have a 6:30 p.m. flight out of MCO. Whew!!!! much better, I will take it!!

So when were they going to call or email me the changes????

Sunny, good to hear you are back!

Colleen

plutosmyfav
11-10-2005, 02:50 PM
Ugh! Solo and Colleen, How awful! I better check my flights. I made my ressies and then never looked back. As if we don't have enough to worry about! You'd think they could do their jobs right and let us worry about training!

wtpclc
11-10-2005, 02:56 PM
Sorry about the flight issues! That really stinks! I hope mine stays ok!

Sunny - So glad you're feeling better. The beginning of your post had me a bit worried! ;)

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 03:19 PM
Sunny - Who posted? You or IC?? :rotfl2:

Colleen and solo - THAT STINKS!!!! I'm glad you got it all worked out though. I was starting to feel this selfish fear like "what if they change my flight time???" Then I realized, I don't even know my flight times :rolleyes1 I really should buy a calendar! I would be very disturbed if they cancelled the direct flight. I'm an airplane chicken and I DO NOT want to have to change planes with the boy!!

Cam - On the stretch, I would bet that your body would be cooled down by the time you started your activity, but often when in doubt, I use the following philosophy: "can't hurt, might help, sure to be a crowd pleaser!" Since you are stretching at the office, I thought the above might be useful :rotfl:

princessmomma
11-10-2005, 03:33 PM
Just remembered my dream last night...........well, it was marathon day and I was running through AK (inspired by one of Christa and Bree's photos) and I came to a "fork" in the road and I didn't know which way was the marathon route??? NO one was around me, no runners, no volunteers, no one. :confused:

It actually woke me up my heart was racing!
Amazing what your mind can do. I know it has something to do with the fact I always get myself turned around in Animal Kingdom, I always seem to get myself lost.

perfectmatch300
11-10-2005, 03:46 PM
Disnutt, PD :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: on it's way for warm weather in CT! Maybe I can bring some from FL when we come! I sure hope so because DH will want to back out of the Turkey Trot if it's too cold! :cold:

Lisa, Happy Birthday! :bday: :cake:

MelR, great pictures! Thanks for sharing them!

TiffJ Oh I found this funny book. As some may remember, I am hoping to start training for a triathlon after January. Slow Fat Triathlete it shows you that you can do it if you really want to no matter your size or athletic abilities right now. Sounds like me. I may have to look for that book. Where did you get it? I would love to try a tri at some point if I could find one that I could do at a reasonable pace for me and with the Klunker bike I currently ride.

I have been pretty busy the past few days. Did a 15 mile bike ride on Tues and was able to keep pace with DH. It was mostly flat, but a lot of cross streets you had to slow down for, and one section through dawntown Winter Garden that you had to take slow. The only person who passed us on the trail was one guy who was a really serious rider. He flew right past us. I don't think our klunker bikes could go that fast! :moped: I felt really great after the ride. We plan to go out and do it again soon, maybe explore the next segment of the trail.

Yesterday, I did about 2 miles of hill work. Yes, there are hills in Central FL! OK not huge hills, but hills nonetheless! I did not slow down as much as I thought I would! I am about to head out arund the neighborhood now for today's workout.

keenercam
11-10-2005, 03:54 PM
Cam - On the stretch, I would bet that your body would be cooled down by the time you started your activity, but often when in doubt, I use the following philosophy: "can't hurt, might help, sure to be a crowd pleaser!" Since you are stretching at the office, I thought the above might be useful :rotfl:

Very funny, Melissa! :rotfl2: It's bad enough my partners have seen me in my workout gear :blush: , I don't think I'll be stretching anywhere anyone can see me. :rolleyes:

Actually, the good news is that I have requested a key to the executive shower and will soon be able to leave my house in the wee hours, go work out, and then come shower at work. The only trick will be finding the perfect time to sneak from the parking garage to my office without running into anyone I know. Oh, and I won't be fit to stop for coffee on my way in to the office. :guilty: Hmmm. . .. definitely have to do a benefits/disadvantages analysis on this plan. But I would LOVE to get the workouts done in the a.m. and have some free time in the evenings.

DH said he'd do my 7 miles with me Saturday. I'm glad I played with the schedule a bit to have only 3 miles next week 2 days after stitches. And I am actually looking forward to the 7 after 6.8 last week, so it isn't intimidating at all! :Pinkbounc

wtpclc
11-10-2005, 03:58 PM
And I am actually looking forward to the 7 after 6.8 last week, so it isn't intimidating at all! :Pinkbounc And teh alien invasion continues. ;)

FYI - Who cares how you look when you stop for coffee. You've done more by 8 am than most people do all week! ;)

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 04:11 PM
FYI - Who cares how you look when you stop for coffee. You've done more by 8 am than most people do all week!

Yeah, and coffee shops have a strong enough aroma that noone can smell your athleticism (is that a word?) :p

keenercam
11-10-2005, 04:12 PM
That's okay, Carrie! Now that I think about it, I don't think they'd recognize me anyway. I am usually pretty "buttoned down" in suit and heels, makeup, jewelry! Now the trick will be to remember to pack all that stuff to be sure I ultimately walk into my office looking pulled together. Oh, yeah, and a towel! Can you imagine having to use icky brown tri-fold paper towels!? :rotfl:

princessmomma
11-10-2005, 04:47 PM
I am usually pretty "buttoned down" in suit and heels, makeup, jewelry! :rotfl:

Ah, Cam, I fondly remember the days that was me too! Now I am a SAHM, wearing sweats and a sweat shirt as I type this. Kinda miss that old life, but love spending extra time with the kids too.

You do so well training for this and working too. I really don't think I could train for a marathon and work full time. I wouldn't be able to get all my ducks in a row. :thewave:

Colleen

disnutt
11-10-2005, 04:52 PM
I tried to order but the shipping came up as 14.95. Is there a special code or something?


I looked up "sharper image free shipping" on dogpile and got a link to couponchief.com
http://www.couponchief.com/sharperimage_coupons/sharperimage.html?ovmkt=TI94Q4IT8625I0KN9PSPDQCEP0&OVRAW=sharper%20image%20free%20shipping&OVKEY=sharper%20image%20free%20shipping&OVMTC=standard

I was able to get a free shipping w/ $50 purchase link. It worked for me.

TXBelle- Thanks for the info. I saved from what I was willing to pay on ebay!

TiffJ
11-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Nancy- I got the book at Books-A-Million they didnt have it at Barnes & Noble (or the public library) It was a pretty good read. I have found a beginner friendly tri that I'm going for end of May in Nashville. The swim is 200m in a pool (not open water yea!) 8.5 mile bike ride and 2 mile run. Also no time limit! No prob right :rotfl: Google for tri's in your area & you should find alot of info. A great website is beginnertriathlete.com I'm very excited about my next endurance adventure. I dont even have a bike yet. Hoping to get one for Christmas. Just using gym bike right now. I have been doing alot of research on this lately so PM me if you want more info. Are you going to do the Minnie Marathon 15k?

Today was my off day so no training news to report.

Sunny-No way can we lose you now. You are too big an inspiration to us all. Just remember how far you have come. You dont want to go back there do you? Me either! Do I need to have a talk with IC?

Cam-that's funny. The old me cared about who saw me gross & sweaty. But since I am now one of "those people" I dont care so much anymore. Although I am trying to decide whether I'm wearing makeup for the marathon. I know, sounds silly, but there is going to be alot of picture taking going on.

Jodi
11-10-2005, 06:12 PM
Happy B'Day Lisa - Your hubby'll be home soon, don't fret.

Disnutt - where's the Turkey Trot in CT? There's a 5k this Sun. in Hartford, are you going?

Solo & Colleen - Don't think that's the end of it. My flight has already changed 3x & not once was I notified, I just checked the website. We're flying on Song...And the airlines wonder why they're broke...

Sunny - Glad you & IC are back

Cam - Wow, a key to the executive shower! Sweet. I just go to work stinky if i run in the a.m.

Speaking of running, this a.m. I had a serious STONKER. 4 miles & it took me 42 mins. Pretty bad considering I was running a 9:09 pace for 50 minutes last week. Oh well...

Watch that night time/early a.m. running guys. I wear a flashing red light on the bill of my baseball hat. I may look like a tool, but so far I haven't been whacked.

Jodi

keenercam
11-10-2005, 06:16 PM
Cam-that's funny. The old me cared about who saw me gross & sweaty. But since I am now one of "those people" I dont care so much anymore. Although I am trying to decide whether I'm wearing makeup for the marathon. I know, sounds silly, but there is going to be alot of picture taking going on.

Funny you should say that. For our LW/LR, we go out very early in the morning on Saturday or Sunday and I don't shower or put on makeup ahead of time. Now that the LWs have gotten longer, there are actually people around to see us arriving at the coffee shop or home. So, I was thinking last weekend that I should put on makeup, and instead, I just put on sunglasses and a hat! I figured if anyone sees me, at least it is obvious I have been working out and maybe they'll actually be impressed with my messy state! :rotfl2:

BTW -- here's another question for you -- does everyone have problems with their sunglasses getting fogged up? Any suggestions? I end up taking them off and carrying them or putting them in my pocket, but the sun can be fierce. Are there brands that don't fog up?

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 06:28 PM
Cam- I'm a glasses wearer. I have that problem on all my early morning activities!!!! If someone has a solution, let me know. I have found, however, that I'm a better mountain biker when I have can't see because I took my glasses off!! This only works for me in the dark :confused3

Minnie
11-10-2005, 07:30 PM
:cheer2: Happy Birthday Lisa :cheer2:

Lisa loves Pooh
11-10-2005, 07:56 PM
BTW -- here's another question for you -- does everyone have problems with their sunglasses getting fogged up? Any suggestions? I end up taking them off and carrying them or putting them in my pocket, but the sun can be fierce. Are there brands that don't fog up?

Yes I do, yes there are, yes there are.....


Mine fog up--I did get some at the running store that didn't--but then used them for more than running and broke them (a classic sunglasses overuse injury :rotfl: ).

You need to find running specific that will mention no fogging...I suggest a running store near you. :earboy2:

disnutt
11-10-2005, 09:16 PM
Jodi-the big T-day run is in Manchester. I don't know about Sunday's run yet. My husband may need to do something and I will need to hang with the kids. Are you going to Hartford?

keenercam
11-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Thanks for the advice on glasses, Lisa! Melissa -- fortunately, I am not wearing them for vision correction, but sunglare can really trigger a migraine for me, so I am careful to always protect my eyes from the sun. I may try this anti-fog stuff I have seen for car windows on my sunglasses. Or ask DH to check the running store for me.

Did my training session tonight at the shopping center fountain walk. It was sooo cold and windy that the fountain water was blowing across the walking path. Did 40 minutes then 30second/1minute speed drills x4. My 40 minutes was 2.69 miles and pace of 14:52. Speed drills were .41 miles with average pace 14:47. Overall, with cool down, 3.17 miles and average pace of 14:54/mile. I do have to say that I am positive that two huge factors helped improve my pace tonight (especially after an exhausting day): GREAT MUSIC recommended by Sunny (thanks, sweetie!) and a powerbar about 45 minutes before I started walking. I am definitely going to do the powerbar thing this saturday a.m. and see how long it holds me on my 7 mile LW. Can someone remind me if you are supposed to take one before walking and then another somewhere in the middle of the walk? How long before starting? And then when to have another one? I have a hard time justifying the huge number of WW points these take up, but if it is going to energize me for the duration of my workout, it is well worth it!

MelRhoads
11-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Cam - You might try a gell at around mile 3 1/2 to 4. It is easier to process while you are moving. the chocolate actually tastes like brownie mix. yum. I use CarBOOM. I actually have 14 of them waiting to be eaten on Saturday during the race! I just at a ton on eggplant parm. and pasta. I wanted to enjoy a good meal before the gel diet begins!!

princessmomma
11-11-2005, 07:51 AM
GREAT MUSIC recommended by Sunny (thanks, sweetie!) !

Ooh! Do tell, I am in desperate need of new music!

keenercam
11-11-2005, 08:42 AM
Melissa -- Thanks for the advice on the gel. I am going to use an energy bar tomorrow morning before I go for my LW and take a gel pack with me to try while I am walking, at about mile 3.5. I am also going to look for a small fanny pack tonight and a small water bottle with a pull spout, so that I don't have to take cap off and I don't end up wearing it like I did with Howard's last weekend! I am such a klutz! :blush:

Ooh! Do tell, I am in desperate need of new music!

I went back and searched the WISH threads for references to "Scooter" which is now my favorite walking music and found some of the following posts. If you can listen to the music on itunes before committing to it, that would be good. It is very stylized -- techno, synthesizer, dance club beat. I have to find more! My pace was down around 13:12 last night whenever this music was on. It was incredibly motivating!

Cam-- If you are looking to increase your Scooter intake Here are my favorites:

No Pain No Gain
Maria
Weekend
Move Your @ss
Faster Harder Scooter
Ramp! (The Logical Song)
Back in the UK
Unity Without Words


Another song that I recognized from Pleasure Island and love in my mix is Kernkraft 400 by Zombie Nation


Another song in that same genre is Dragostea Din Tei (Ma Ya Hi) by O ZONE, there are many, many version. I haven't found one I don't like yet

And I was nearly bouncing off the walls when I found Nessaja:
Sunny and Helen -- I just downloaded Scooter's Nessaja and it reminds me so much of what they play at clubs or at Pleasure Island late at night to really get the crowd dancing! I love it! It is now right at the top of my workout playlist! Thanks! Am going to go browse for more Scooter. How fun!

I think it is because I've been a musician since I was 7 and marched drum corps -- my body automatically moves to the beat. :cool1:

solotraveler
11-11-2005, 08:49 AM
BTW -- here's another question for you -- does everyone have problems with their sunglasses getting fogged up? Any suggestions? I end up taking them off and carrying them or putting them in my pocket, but the sun can be fierce. Are there brands that don't fog up?

Well, here are two ideas from my former elite swimmer/swim instructor self:

1. Check you sporting goods store for anti-fog stuff. Usually located near swimming goggles. It does work pretty well. (I would hesitate to use your car stuff, I don't know what's in is and what it might do if it comes in close contact with your eyes or skin)

2. The best anti-fog product out there--- human saliva. Don't ask me how this works, but if you lick the inside of your sunglasses (or goggles), you should stay fog-free. Sounds gross, yes. But in all of my years of swimming and running, I've never needed to buy antifog. You can reapply if necessary on the road and it's dirt cheap.

Hope this helps!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

MelRhoads
11-11-2005, 08:56 AM
Cam - I totally love the ultimate direction products as far as fanny packs or hydration waist packs. I got a great one at REI outlet. They have the newer models as REI.com, but the older one's are about 1/2 the price and I love the water bottles!!!!!! I have worn mine on a 17miler and did not chaffe at all. I got the solitare and there is plenty of room for gels, trash, powerbars and I even fit my digital camera in it! Here is a link.

Ultimate Direction waist pack at REI outlet (http://www.rei.com/online/store/Search?vcat=OUTLET_SEARCH&stat=8265&langId=-1&storeId=8001&query=ultimate+direction&x=0&y=0)

Oh yeah, I did have the camelbak waist pack (still do) but it does chaffe! It does great when it is full of water, but as you drink it down, it develops a wiggle and then OUCH!

aladdinsgirl
11-11-2005, 09:05 AM
Well, I had a botched run last night, but I am the company's hero. Last night, right at 5:00 the power went out at work (thankfully I was changing in the bathroom that has emergency lights :earseek: ). I finished changing and then I started running on the track around building. I got about 5 minutes into my run and saw that one of the transformers was on fire, which is what caused the power to go out. I ran back to the building and saw the President, VP of Purchasing, and VP of Finance standing in one of the offices. They saw me run up to the door, came out and I told them the transformer was on fire, we ran over there so they could see which transformer it was. The flames were pretty tiny, but tiny flames turn into big flames!! I left work and by the time I got home, it was dark, so I got a 5 minute run in. :teeth:

Lisa--Hope you had a happy birthday and that your hubby got home safe.

Cam--Your posts crack me up, I used to be such a prissy girl before I started running in May. You know, outfits perfectly put together, hair and make-up always done, Now, I go to the grocery store after running with my hair in a bun, no make-up, and a red face from running in the cold. I knew I hit an all-time low when I was digging through dirty running clothes trying to find a shirt that didn't smell too bad so I could wear it yesterday! I think I like the running me better!! :goodvibes

Mel--I wear glasses too, I thought there was something you could put on your glasses to make them not fog. I'll look into it and report back. Good luck on your adventure race. :wizard: :wizard: Oh, by the way, I pretty much hate TO, I'm not a big fan of the showboat athletes, so I'm really glad he's getting what he deserves.

I better get back to work. :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: on the lr's tomorrow!!! I have a whopping 4 miles (isn't it great that 4 miles seem like nothing to us?? :earboy2: )

Krista princess:

Lisa loves Pooh
11-11-2005, 09:29 AM
Hubby got home safe--thanks for the well wishes :). He got home at 9:15....only 9 hours late! :).

Going to the gym today.

Did 20 minutes on the elliptical yesterday--Wahooooo!!!!

Doing cross trianing today--ha ha....so I'll be back doing the same thing :). They have a "kid fit" program--they watch the kids and it is soooo much more than what they had at another gym we went to. They actually have physical activity time--I think once an hour, so that the kids will get to do it at least once while they are in there. For some reason--I totally appreciate that they are doing "gym time" with the kidlets.

Going to the Women of Faith conference in Orlando this afternoon. That's my b-day present...a weekend (or at least a day and a half) for girls time. Yippee!

Lisa

MelRhoads
11-11-2005, 10:18 AM
Krista - way to save the office!

Lisa - That is awesome that you did the elliptical!!! Are you getting close to hitting the road? I went to a women of faith conference years ago. the one big thing I remember is that they told us we could use the men's restrooms in the stadium. That just seared a mental picture into my brain. YUCK!! Isn't that funny, we've been talking about our prissyness standards and of course now I would go in the woods, but the thought of using the men's rr's :guilty:

keenercam
11-11-2005, 10:24 AM
Well, here are two ideas from my former elite swimmer/swim instructor self:

1. Check you sporting goods store for anti-fog stuff. Usually located near swimming goggles. It does work pretty well. (I would hesitate to use your car stuff, I don't know what's in is and what it might do if it comes in close contact with your eyes or skin)

2. The best anti-fog product out there--- human saliva. Don't ask me how this works, but if you lick the inside of your sunglasses (or goggles), you should stay fog-free. Sounds gross, yes. But in all of my years of swimming and running, I've never needed to buy antifog. You can reapply if necessary on the road and it's dirt cheap.

Hope this helps!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

Thanks, solo! I hadn't considered that there may be harmful chemicals in the car product! DUH! :blush: And I had forgotten the saliva solution which I knew very well from snorkeling. Why didn't I think of that? I'll give it a try tomorrow a.m. (TMI, right?) and if it doesn't help, we'll swing by the running store and see what they suggest.

Right now I have such a monstruous migraine that I can't imagine doing a LW anytime soon. Hoping for a miracle that it will be gone in the next couple of hours. The migraine med I took this morning didn't help at all and only served to make me shaky. UGH!

plutosmyfav
11-11-2005, 03:49 PM
Cam-- I used to do coffee breaks in the middle of summer, middle of day in the absolute worse shape one could imagine! I figure my money is as good as the next guys. I do have a heart, though, I carried my money in a plastic bag so the poor coffee person didn't have to take sweat soaked dollars :rotfl2: As for the make up, etc.? Well soon you'll find yourself standing in a busy store, stockpiling energy bars and well... realize "your not one of them" :rotfl2:

Also, now that you are addicted to Scooter, here's one that is currently transporting me clear off the earth: "One (always hard core)", when he gets to the chorus

"One world, one people, one music - one MC

Yea-ea-ea-ah, yea-ea, I feel hardcore
Yea-ea-ea-ah, yea-ea, always hardcore,..." My feet leave the ground just like a plane taking flight :goodvibes The other new favorite of mine is: Suavemente-- its kind of a salsa, techno thing going on.

Wow, I'm feeling the need to download more Scooter..

Another similar artist I like is Jan Wayne.

I might add, I had no interest in techno before DD and Helen worked on me :rotfl:

Onto the news:

11/11 11:11 11K Veteran's Memorial Race (only one of its kind)

It was beautiful. Very emotional. I didn't see posted results, they didn't use chips. But the clock as I crossed said 1:00:57 and my watch said 1:00:55. As for Garmin, it was dead on for the first 3 mile markers. Then mile 4 was off (Garmine finished mile 4 early) by 132 ft, then mile 5 was off by 156 ft, then I lost track, but at the end Garmin reported 6.9 miles (versus 6.875) and claimed 1:00:49. Not bad! So according to Gramin I averaged 8:48, I'm pretty sure my results will be 8:51. I'm happy with it :teeth:

Any much more importantly, I was happy to be out running! Phew, I think I better start showering the IC with flowers or something to keep her around 'till race day :earboy2:

Other news: I signed up for the Holiday Challenge at my gym. You weigh in this week and pay $10. Then you weigh each week through the week of Jan 2. If you don't gain more than 3 lbs you get your $10 back. The one who loses the most wins the pot. Too bad they didn't do it last year, I would have won the pot hands down. But this year I'll be lucky to get my ten back...

The problem with short races is I feel like I really worked out hard and then deserve to eat hard :rolleyes: The post-race food was minimal, I had one slice of pizza, but then I went out with Dx and had French Toast. Oops.


Sunny

plutosmyfav
11-11-2005, 03:56 PM
Krista-- Wow! Glad you were there to see the fire. You've just added yet another benefit to running-- saving the office from fire!

Jodi-- sorry to hear you had a stonker. Your time still wasn't bad :flower:

Sunny

MelRhoads
11-11-2005, 04:02 PM
Sunny - Do you really think that IC is the kind of girl who would appreciate flowers?? :rotfl:

Jodi
11-11-2005, 04:13 PM
Disnutt - I think I'm going to Hartford Sun. It starts @ 1 p.m., & it's supposed to be a beautiful day. I'll post here on Sun. a.m. It'd be cool if you could make it & we could actually meet!

Sunny - Great time on your 11k, what a neat idea. Wicked pace. I'm glad to hear that the Garmin is semi-accurate - good enough for me. I was starting to get worried there.

It's a little windy & cold here today so I decided to go to the gym & the dreaded TM to do my LR of 8 miles. OOOPS!! Bad move. I hate the TM more than ever now. The run went well, but by the time I hit mile 5, holy crap, i was hurtin'. So I slowed down (no -splits for me today) & kept going. I finished in 82:32 minutes. Here I am thinking I'll be able to run the 1/2 w/ 10 min. miles. Uh, guess again dork :rotfl: ! And when I was done, I wandered around the gym aimlessly, wondering how the heck I was gonna run 5 more miles than I did today, on Jan 6. Well, we'll see. To those of you that have done it, do you really get an adrenaline rush on race day that carries you through? I may have to carrie an Epi-pen w/ me to jam into my thigh for the last 5 miles. :rotfl2:

Good luck with all your LR tomorrow guys, I'm off to NYC w/ hubby for the day.

Mel-Good luck tomorrow, I can barely drive 50K!!

Jodi

TiffJ
11-11-2005, 04:51 PM
Sunny-great job on the race. That's a cool idea your gym has. Good to see IC is still alive & kickin' . I may need to check out some of this music you guys have been talking about. I'm getting sick of whats on my MP3

Jodi-that's funny about the epi pen. My neighbor has one for ant bites, maybe I can borrow one of his.

Cam-good luck getting rid of that migraine

I had xt today. Did 8 miles on the bike. Did good about mixing up the sprints with hill climbs. Felt pretty good. I usually do my LR on Sunday but it is supposed to rain so I may have to find a way to squeeze it in tomorrow. Dont really have time for it, but its better than the TM.

Have a great weekend everybody!

plutosmyfav
11-11-2005, 09:00 PM
Oh, I meant to add in my news:

Remember I was worried that my "silly filly" news might be the talk of Lexington when the paper came out? Well, unfortunately I wish that were true. Instead, the talk of Lexington is a house blew up. Its right near the bike path. The gas company over-pressurized the lines and the house was leveled. I mean there is NOTHING left of this house. It is sooo errie. I heard it made national news so you may have seen the picture. TG the owner was out in the yard and the adult son smelled gas and got out of the house just in time. I guess the lesson is if you ever smell gas, evacuate just in case.

Sunny

I don't know if this link will work:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/11/10/two_escape_as_explosion_levels_house_in_lexington/

Tiger Lily 03
11-11-2005, 10:30 PM
:wave2:
Well, I've been busy, haven't read since my last post. I am going out in the a.m. for 8 miles I think. I will read the rest tomorrow I hope.

Sunny, what a story. Glad everyone lived to tell about it.

TiffJ
11-12-2005, 07:13 AM
8 weeks from right now we will be walk/run/wogging our little hearts out!!! :Pinkbounc :banana: I can't wait!

plutosmyfav
11-12-2005, 09:28 AM
Didn't I say my cut off is 25 deg F?

:cold: :cold: :cold: I started my LR today at 5:30AM in the dark at 22 deg F. Lexington Center was really eerie. About every 100 feet there was a group of Keyspan (gas co.) trucks and a 3x6 foot hole inthe street, and it smelled like gas. When I returned to Lex Ctr at the end, the streets were line up and down both sides with Keyspan trucks and they were cutting multiple new holes in the street. I hope this is overkill to cover their butts and not an indication of how risky the situation really is. I wouldn't want to be the company that blew up Historic Lexington!

Anyway, I digress... The run was a complete Stonker, except that I didn't care so I guess that means it wasn't. I knew I'd be slow after racing yesterday. I was! I averaged 11:16 but that included a bathroom and coffee break. I intended to do 14 miles but I got confused and ended up back at my car at 13:75 so I called it a day. The ground was white with a thick covering of frost and when I looked down I saw that my navy blue mittens were white, too! They had frost onthem. My mp3 player cut out due to the cold but I tucked it inside my mittens and it was able to play. I'm starting to rethink this March half marathon idea!!!!!!

Oh and I might add, icing any body part when your chilled to the bone is not fun!!!!!

Oh, I almost forgot the funny part of the run. When I crossed Hartwell Ave (a busy industrial street), there was one of those portable radar detectors that tells you how fast you are going. Since there were no cars onthe street I decided to see if I could register on the thing. I ran out in front of it and then weaved and waved my arms trying to catch the beam. I didnt, but some Air Force guys drove by and I felt a bit silly :blush:

Happy LR everyone :)

Sunny

keenercam
11-12-2005, 10:22 AM
Hi, everyone!
Sunny -- seeing all those trucks and smelling gas would have totally freaked me out. I worry about you running alone that early.

As for me, I've had an interesting weekend so far. I left work at noon yesterday because my migraine was so bad. And it kept me up all night. When the alarm went off this morning I was so tempted to stay in bed. DH suggested I skip my long walk this morning. I was scheduled for 7 on my revised schedule (moved stuff around so I wouldn't have to do 7 next week 2 days after getting my stitches in). I forced myself to go and am glad I did. Considering the migraine and lack of sleep and using a fanny pack for the first time with a powerade bottle and cell phone, and considering the bitter cold, my splits weren't too bad overall 7.2 miles in 1:51:13 for a pace of 15:27):
mile 1--15:39
mile 2--15:18
mile 3--15:02
mile 4--15:29
mile 5--15:19
mile 6--15:33
mile 7--15:22

I learned a couple of things today:
I can do this even with a migraine and various other "issues" and less than 3 hours of sleep.
No matter how cold it seems when you start out, be sure you can easily peel off layers.
I don't like "gu". Blech! Will stick with cliff shots and carry my own on race day.
I can use a fanny pack with a water bottle and not end up chafed.
I'm sure there is more, but my brain is mush. :blush:

Off to take more head meds and get on with our busy weekend. Hope everyone else is doing okay!

disnutt
11-12-2005, 10:41 AM
I'm feeling great after my long runs this weekend. I did 10 miles yesterday- just felt OK. I did 19 this morning and had a great run. I'm doing 4:1 run:walk and I did a very hilly course. I was planning on 4 hrs but got done in 3:45!!! :banana:

My only problem was that I was out of Gu so I took a Powerbar that I had. Well, those things are hard to chew to start with. Try biting into one that's been riding around in your fanny pack at 28 degrees! :cold: My teeth got stuck so badly that I walked about 1/4 mile before I could 'melt' it off with spit. It was like an Everlasting Gobstopper trying to chew it into submission after that. I put the rest of the bar into my inner vest pocket in the hopes that it would soften up enough to eat. It did but only slightly.

Jodi- I'm not going to be doing the run in Hartford but I need to be over that way and I'd love to actually meet one of our group! PM me and let me know when you'll be arriving so we can make arrangements to meet before the start.

I hope every body has a great walk/run/wog weekend! :Pinkbounc

WDWFAN9
11-12-2005, 01:43 PM
Hi All!

Just got back from my LW - 6 miles. According to my garmin I had a 15:35 pace. Which according to my estimates is just about right, and the garmin mileage agreed with the mile markers along the trail. We have been having unusually warm weather here (I am NOT complaining) it is in the low 50's, which is just about perfect for me. DH and I will be in WDW right after Thanksgiving, one of the Saturdays will be an 8 mile walk, so I am going to "test" the conditions prior to the half. Of course FL weather can vary so greatly that I am going to try to be prepared for everything.

TiffJ
11-12-2005, 01:47 PM
Great job on those LR everyone!

Sunny- That pace doesnt seem too stonker like to me :goodvibes

Just finished my LR of 7 miles. Since I will be repeating it next week I was aiming for under 15:00 pace & I DID IT!! My pace was 14:41 :banana:
The weather is gorgeous today. Sunny, breezy & 75* Which is a bit warmer than I've been training in but not bad. We have crazy back & forth weather just like FL so I guess that will get me used to it. I dont know how you guys do it in that cold of weather. My lungs would be killing me!

Oh- and I have discovered that chocolate covered doughnuts are a great post run food :rolleyes1

xterratri
11-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Congrats on the LRs everyone!!! The paces look good.

This week's "LR" was just 8 miles, 1:19.05 or a 9:51 pace. It doesn't even really seem like a long run as I didn't do any walk breaks or even carry any water. I was lazy and waited until it warmed up to 40 before going out. It is a gorgeous, sunny day in spite of not being terrribly warm. In a couple months weather like this will seem positively balmy which is a slightly disturbing thought. I also had a decent tempo run on Weds during my lunch break. I was a tiny bit late getting back to the start of class though because I was talking running with someone. Oops.

When I was at the conference in DC a couple of weeks ago, one of the talks was about heat acclimization and I ended up sitting at the same table as the researcher(and ultra trail runner) at dinner so I asked him about our(the northerners) specific situation. The suggestions were that closer to the race to either continue training outside and purposely overdress or train indoors in a warm room. So I asked whether I should do my last LR of 20 miles at Disney to help with the acclimization? His response was that I could do up here but that running during that week we're on vacation will help with the acclimation as long as I do some runs after returning back up here under "hot"(it's a relative term) conditions. My 20 miler should be done the day we fly down for 7 nights but I'm planning to do it 2 days earlier on Thurs rather than delaying it 1 day and doing it on Sunday at the World. I can only do so many laps of OKW, the nature trail, DTD and back and I think a 20 miler would exceed my tolerance as I think it would take between 5 and 6 round trips.

This week's conference in Providence- the New England American College of Sports Medicine chapter Annual Meeting- was kind of disappointing. I really enjoyed the one DC but it was also aimed at physicians where as this was aimed more at athletic trainers, exercise physiologists, etc with some stuff for physicians. I did learn that if I intend to do sports medicine, I better develop more of an appreciation for football than I currently have as many of the cases mentioned were about football players. The American Medical Athletic Association(the sponsor of the DC conference) also does a 2 day conference just prior to the Boston Marathon in April so I will go to that one. I think these are a great racket- go to a conference, get some CMEs, and gee whiz just happen to be in town for the Marine Corps Marathon, the Boston Marathon, or the Ironman World Championship. This is probably the reason that conferences are frequently held in vacation destinations and include afternoons off to golf, ski. If you've got to do your CMEs someplace, why not do it some place fun?

MelRhoads
11-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Hey everyone, I'm back from our adventure race today. We started at 4:30 am and I think we finished around 1:50pm. It was a much harder course than last year but we did great this year!!!!! We have never placed before, but today we finished 3rd :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

We get cool prizes - a pair of merrel shoes, a colombia jacket and a 25 doller gift cert!!!!!! I'm just so excited I can't stand it.

I thought about all of my virtual training partners during the last leg of the race. We did our travel mostly on the road and all by foot. I was all worried that I couldn't stick it out until the finish doing a reasonable speed and then I thought, hey, everyone is doing their LR's today. This one is mine!!! I can do it. Sorry about tooting our own horn, but I'm just soooooooo excited!

Sunny - it doesn't get that cold that early here, but it will be in the winter. The whole frost on the clothes thing yucks me out, becuase I realized that it is frozen sweat!!!!

Cam- you did great completing your LR under such adverse circumstances. You are a true endurance athlete!!

Tiff - great job meeting your goal.

Does anyone remember where Mel is this week?

TEK224
11-12-2005, 06:09 PM
Melissa - congrats on placing in top 3! Yo go Girl! :cool1: :banana: :cheer2:

I'm bummed today. Still trying to fight off cold/flu and spent most of the day in bed. Tried the exercise bike and did about 20 minutes. It was so nice out here, too and I just couldn't get my body to move. Sunny and not too windy! I've been hitting the cold medicine, so hopefully I'll be able to get out tomorrow.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

Terri

crzy4pooh
11-12-2005, 08:46 PM
8 weeks to go - YEA!!! :banana:

Melissa - great job on the top 3 finish!! :cool1:

Terri - hope you are feeling better SOON!!! :grouphug:

DH and I both did 10 mile LRs this morning. His pace was 11:30-ish, and mine was 13:25 (yea - my best pace on a LR to date!!) :teeth: He went out at 5am, and I did the 7am shift - I got to see where I was going, but he got all the nice cool weather... ;) Next week is 16 for me, and he has another 10. Hope everyone is doing well!!! :wave2:

NYcpa
11-12-2005, 08:54 PM
Today was my long walk of 6 miles. Pace ended up being 16.36 which included re-tying shoes and a potty stop. Was faster last week but it was only a 3 miler.

Did no training this week. Wass busy with work and anded up with 64 hrs for the week. I think I have become a work-a-holic. :scared1: :scared1: Have been rather stressed so haven't been sleeping well either. Do these sound like excuses for the slower time? :rotfl: I need exterratri around to pace me.

Next week so slow down just a little. Have to get 2 corp year ends done by Fri. Means additional time but hopefully not another 64 hr week. Next week is my 7 miler, so I need to try and get some rest. On top of all the working, I spend 2 hours 2 - 3 days per week in PT. Have been allowed to start the strenthening phase of the process. It may turn into a good shoulder soon.

Everyone is doing great with their training. Keep up the good work and we will be in WDW in no time. Need to beat the sweepers.

chimera
11-12-2005, 11:39 PM
Come join us for a new week!

Wk of Nov 13--2006 Disney Half-Full Marathon Info/Training (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=10567968#post10567968)