Week of Oct 9 - 2006 Half-Full Marathon Info/Training Thread

[chimera]

Hello everyone!

For those new to us, we're a group of people who are planning to participate in the 2006 and/or 2007 Disney Half or Full marathons. We range from non-running beginners to triathletes. Come join us!

Here's the Marathon FAQ, a great place to answer your marathon questions:
Disney Marathon FAQ (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=725285)
And some websites for further running/walking info:
http://www.runnersworld.com
http://www.coolrunning.com
http://www.halhigdon.com
http://www.running4women.com/
http://www.runnergirl.com/index.shtml
http://www.katherineswitzer.com/fitness.html
http://www.irongirl.com
The John Bingham site:
http://www.waddleon.com/
Jeff Galloway's site:
http://www.jeffgalloway.com/

Pacing Calculator (http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm)

We're on for Trail's End! Thanks to everyone who called for ressies! We currently have ressies for 90, so please check in on the first page of the dinner thread to confirm your group size. We're planning to meet Fri, Jan 6 at 4:00ish at TE to have some time to hang out together, then our dinner times are staggered from 4:30 to 4:50. If you'd like to come and didn't get a chance to sign up the first time around, pop into the dinner thread and let us know. As it stands right now, we have extra seats that we'll likely cancel if we can't fill them.

WISH Team Dinner Fri, Jan 6th--Trail's End it is!! PLEASE CONFIRM your spots (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=830380&page=1&pp=15)

So how was the first week of MFM?

Leigh Ann...welcome back :wave2: Always good to have another member of Team NC. How's your training going?

Colleen...how was your 5K?

Heather...I gave up trying to fully describe us and just talk about my training group now. It was too long and confusing a story to explain about the Disney people on the Internet that I decided to train for a half marathon with :earseek:

Krista...Great pace! So how cold is it up there? How was the movie?

Steve...Hi!

Cam...yikes! Sounds messy up there. Was that a marching band competition that got moved indoors? We did winter guard inside, but I can't imagine moving a whole marching band competition into a gym :scared1:

Howard...good luck on the 15K! :cheer2:

Sunny...love the Tshirt logo designs!

Carrie...how's your weekend?

Lisa...thanks for the nutrition info! And the step reminder!

My LR went incredibly well this weekend! I did 6.2 instead of 6 miles just to check my time against the sweep times posted on the Disney site. Got there and found the sweep time was for 6.3 miles, but I think I'll do ok. My time today was 1:31:42 for a 14:47 pace :bounce: :bounce: That's less than my 6 mile time from last weekend!

Good training everyone! Anyone have fall leaves yet? Still sticky and nasty down here.

[chimera]

Anyone have family members or are doing the 5K after the half? DD12 (who'll be 13 by then) is considering it. I don't think I'll be up for it after the half. She went out and did 3 miles just for fun after a soccer game a couple weeks ago...at a 13:51 pace. Doesn't seem quite fair...I'm still not at that kinda pace and I do this 3 times a week :rolleyes:

[keenercam]

Mel -- What plan are you following? Mine called for 2 miles today! I can't believe you did 6.2!!!! You GOOOOOO, girl! :banana:

Yes,the marching band competition got moved into a gymnasium, so the bands stood still and the colorguard stood in place and did their dance and flag work. DD17's solo was so beautiful, but positioning the guard behind the band deprived about 1/2 the audience of seeing her perform. Those who could see her were cheering and clapping. I was so choked up. Hey, I decided today, waiting to hear how DD17 did on the SATs is going to be so unbearable that it is really good that I am distracted by this training stuff! :goodvibes:

Have a great night, all!

[MelRhoads]

The century ride was not nearly as bad as I expected (basically, I didn't die and better yet, I didn't want to!!). We were all able to stay together as a group and draft, so it was actually pretty easy riding. I think I will even be able to sit down tomorrow! I ran 13 thurs and I was a little worried my legs would be tired, but they were great! I don't think I hydrated enough on the ride, becuase my eyes feel VERY dry now. It was hard to drink when we were all riding so closely to one another. That kind of riding makes it easy, but it also seems dangerous to be right on someone's wheel! I'm really proud of myself, because a 100 mile ride was something I dreamed of doing several years ago when i first did the 50 on my mountain bike. :cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

I'm planning on goofing off until tues. I'm just going to do my short run on Tues and then nothing for the rest of the week as I have another adventure race next weekend. It is shorter and is mostly urban so it should be easier on the bod than the last one!!!! NO POISON IVY!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Keener - That's so cool that your dd had a solo. She must be very good!! Good luck waiting on those SAT's!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

[TiffJ]

Cam- I think WATP and eliptical both count as ct. They 3 mile tape will kick your butt!! I've been using it when I can't get to the gym.

Mel- my DS(8), nieces(12) and my dad will be doing the 5K. I dont think any of them are anywhere near her pace though. I have DS is training so he doesnt get swept. He is very excited about it!

I'm getting ready to do my LR of 5 miles. I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm so excited about this whole thing. Can you believe it's less than 13 weeks away!

[chimera]

Cam...I'm doing MFM W/R the half, but I'm doing each of the first 10 weeks twice. I started last week of July. Mostly a mental thing since this is my first distance race...I kinda wanted a cushion in case I couldn't do the LR or ran into scheduling issues. It's worked out well for me. I focus on just getting the LR distance done on the first week, then I work on the pace when I repeat it the second week. I start week 7A tomorrow :goodvibes

Sounds like your DD did well even under difficult conditions! Have you guys seen Blast? I'm sure her SATs were fabulous! I know the test has changed a LOT since I took it back in the day. Glad I'm done with that kinda stuff, but I guess it'll be our turn with DD12 soon :eek:

MelR...congrats on the century ride! You're hardcore, dude! Enjoy your rest!

Tiff...less than 13 weeks :scared1: :scared1: :scared1: And with the holidays coming, those weeks will go by fast!

[disneybelle]

Good Morning All! Been aout of the loop for a looong time, but still doing the half. Training has been inconsistent, but moving ahead. I need to check in more as there seems to be a lot to learn from you guys, even more so as we get closer to January.

I did finish the Philadelphia Distance Run (half marathon) on 9/18 in 2:32. Not too shabby considering it was my first half. Looking to do a 10K on 11/6 (as a member of my company's team) and an 8K on 11/20. Should be interesting. Anyone else in the Philly area doing any runs?!

Sorry to miss the TE dinner. I was looking forward to meeting everyone.

D

[MelRhoads]

Disneybelle - Good job on your half! Sounds like you are already there and all you have to do is maintain!!!! That must be a great feeling! :goodvibes

[princessmomma]

Colleen...how was your 5K?



I had a really great 5K race yesterday to benefit victims of the hurricanes. My time was 27:40, I was really happy because most of the second mile was completely uphill.

I really had a slow week yesterday, I really needed two rest days in a row, so I took them and I feel much better today.

My younger sister is running in her 3rd marathon this morning in Victoria, Canada. She is trying to qualify for Boston :sunny: , she needs to run 3:45 or better to qualify. I cannot tell you how nervous and excited I am for her!!! If I feel this nervous today, how am I going to feel in 13 weeks for my first! :scared:

Someone earlier asked me about the protien whey powder I use in my smoothies. I have seen it at Target and Walmart, but you can also buy a huge tub of it at Sam's Club for much cheaper (but it is a lot). You can get it at GNC, but it is probably double in price and I can't really tell the difference. We buy the huge one from Sam's because my husband and I both use it. It was actually my sister's recommendation about the protien powder that got me hooked. She said it really helped her recover after long runs and I really like it too!

Colleen

[MelRhoads]

Coleen - you kicked booty!!!! Great time!!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[plutosmyfav]

Wow congrats to all the racers this week!

Chimera-- kudos on the pace advancement :)

Looks like RAIN is the theme for this week. I did my LR this morning in the rain. The good parts are: 1) I sprayed Spray'NWash on my shoe where a bloody blister left a stain weeks ago and now the stain is gone!!! 2) I learned that I can run without music and survive 3) It was very liberating to run "sans equipment". I left with nothing but a 16 oz bottle of water. No fanny pack, no Garmin, no music. My time was horrendous for me, but it was really windy so I'm using that as my excuse.

14 miles 2:27 blah

[perfectmatch300]

Wow, Mel, you have really come a long way! I'm peoud of you and inspired by you!

As I wind down from our move - yes, I'm still organizing and unpacking and will be for a while - I'm planning to start a long range training program that will have me ahead of the sweepers in 2007. My pace has improved greatly over the past year both in the pool and on my bike, but I'm still way too slow on my feet. Right now I will be doing 3 days walking and 3 days cross training, either swim or bike most likely with one day of rest per week. The cross train days will also include strength and flexibility exercises. Hopefully it will get a little less humid around here soon. I was soaked after our walk last night and it was not raining!

Sunny, I love the Spray n Wash on your sneaker. I'll have to remember that one!

Lisa, thanks for the info on counting steps and short steps a fast pace being better. I already take REALLY short steps and thought that was part of my problem but have not seemed to be able to do anything about it with my short little legs. I have a timer on my watch that I wear that beeps at 1 min, so on my next walk I'm going to try to count steps and see how I do. My biggest problem right now is speed, or rather lack of, so I'm really hoping this will help me pick up the pace. Going a distance does not seem to be my problem, it just takes me forever to get there!

MelR, congrats on your century ride! Colleen, congrats on your 5K!

[littlegreydonkey]

Hi all - did 12 miles this weekend, took me 3 hours what with hiding from thunderstorms, doubling back because I lost my bottle of sugary stuff and a quick chat with the boyfriend who'd driven out to rescue me from the rain - sadly I was over half way at this point so figured I might as well just splash my way round the rest of the route. Hope it's not like that next weekend, I've got to adjust my programme a bit to fit in a half so I'm going to move my 15 mile run up to next week.

Bree: Imagine your naked woman scenario, but not with a stranger, with one of the most important magazine editors in England, who you did your internship with about 4 years earlier and who decides to catch up on your career right there and then - I mean, where you do you look? Helen

[wfloyd]

We just got back from the Race for the Taste expo and we were talking to the Disney endurance people. We found out that there are 29,000 people signed up this year. They are broken up between 14,000 for one and 15,000 for the other. We've forgotten which was higher though. There are almost 3000 signed up for the Goofy.

Also, they have the dates for the 2007 marathon selected already. We will have to find the paper to get the exact dates but it is approximately the same time frame as 2006.

ETA: Found the paper. The dates are Half on Jan 6 and the full Jan 7. The expo runs from Jan 4-6. Online registration begins on Jan 9.

They are also doing the Goofy again.

[Wish I lived in Fl]

Add my name to the list. Real name Felicia . Registered for half. Plan to fast walk, never been able to run my whole life.
Staying at POR, tried to get CSR but it was reserved for TNt from the beginning..

[TiffJ]

Well my I did my 5 miles today. 1st time doing that much. It actually felt pretty good. I avg. 14:41 pace. I was very happy with that. As long as it's below 15 I'll take it!!!

Welcome Felicia! Good to have you aboard. This is a great group. Check in often. Are you coming to TE Friday night?

All of you that run in the rain astound me. I am too wimpy I would either have to to TM or do it the next day.

Have a great week!

[sara]

OK...I'm back!!! :wave: I did my long run today in Chicago, 26.2 miles. :faint: I finished and I'm thrilled. BUT, I'm having major second thoughts on Goofy. That's a long way. :earseek: We'll see.

It's going to take me awhile to catch up with everyone. Good job to all the weekend racers. I'm so glad the weather has cooled down.

Sara

[TEK224]

Congrats to everyone with their runs this weekend.

Sunny - I know what you mean about surviving w/o music. When I run on the roads here, I never wear my iPod. Gotta hear those screeching tires :earboy2:

Did 4.3 miles today at about 15 min/mile pace. Should be able to cut about 10 min. off total time if I eliminate the hills. I hate hills!

Anyone know what I can do for a quad strain. This has been nagging me all week. Bothers me for the first 5-10 steps I run. Once I get into a rhythm, it doesn't bother me as much. But after sitting for awhile and getting up, it's like a shot in the leg for the first few steps. Not bad enough to effect my wogging, but still annoying.

Terri

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well my I did my 5 miles today. 1st time doing that much. It actually felt pretty good. I avg. 14:41 pace. I was very happy with that. As long as it's below 15 I'll take it!!!



WTG that is awesome!!!!


Reporting in for my workout this morning....did 44 minutes on MFM week 8 (I think) Monday. It came out to about 3.75 miles or something like that. Shortening the strides, I had to up the mph...I got up to 5.6 mph (sub 11:00) for the run portions---I will stick to that for at least the rest of the week....I was getting 88/89 steps per minute, so I'm close. It felt really good!

Today I am becoming the Nutrition Nazi with myself--making sure I get the right amount of carbs and...ahem...the 100g of protein I'm supposed to have. :faint: And I"m supposed to have over 2000 calories today...WOW! But as the Nutrition Nazi--"NO junk for me".

I have a sensation in my knee--akin to when you need your back "popped" or adjusted by a bear hug or chiropractor. I last had it in August and a slide down a slide helped adjust it--it's back, so I am going to call the chiropractor to see if he can do it. Nothing to worry about--I can remember having this since 7th grade. Too bad the knees aren't like the knuckles. :hyper:

Have a great Monday. I almost slept in thinking it was the weekend. Oops!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Anyone know what I can do for a quad strain. This has been nagging me all week. Bothers me for the first 5-10 steps I run. Once I get into a rhythm, it doesn't bother me as much. But after sitting for awhile and getting up, it's like a shot in the leg for the first few steps. Not bad enough to effect my wogging, but still annoying.

Terri

Warm up with walking and then STRETCH before running. Post workout make sure you stretch them well again.

Also--you may benefit from some squats or lunges on xtrain days or post workout to get a little extra strength in the quad.

Make sure your strides aren't too long.

This was all suggested to me with my problems in the past few weeks and all seems to be clearing up.


Sara--Wow you did Chicago....that is awesome! You've done the hardest part and tackled the 26....way to go!!! I hear that race is pretty :cloud9: ---details please :flower: .

[solotraveler]

Hi everyone!! :wave2:

Sounds lke everyone is doing wonderfully so far this week!

Tiff- Awesome!! Way to go!! That's a wonderful pace.

Colleen- Great job on the 5K!! Sounds like you had a really good race!

wfloyd- Thank you SO much for that info. I had written to the race folks about the 2007 races and you beat them to it!! I'm guessing with keeping the split day format and the popularity of the Goofy that they will be offering it next year as well. I'm thinking that might be my next challenge!

I did my MFM 44 min (3run/1walk) yesterday evening and ended up going 5.08 miles so I averaged an 8:40/mile pace :earseek: !! I must say that the weather was perfect and I pushed it a little here and there, but I am VERY happy with that. I get to go 40 min ( 3/1 ) today. Hopeing to get that in around lunch time.

Happy training everyone!

Solotraveler :earsboy:

[keenercam]

Melissa-- Congratulations on fulfilling your dream to do 100! That is so exciting! And, yes, DD is beautiful to watch (she doesn't look athletic or graceful until you put a flag in her hands and an audience in front of her, but then -- WOW!).

TiffJ -- Thanks for the heads-up on WATP 3 miles -- I will definitely put that on my cross training schedule when I am supposed to do that many minutes. I think this week I will have to check to see which one I have that will take 30 minutes. It is so weird to "restrain" myself to 30 minutes! :confused3

Mel -- Ahhh, now I remember! Okay, so the difference is you are doing a run component, too. I am still following the walk program, but jog every once in a while just to keep the pace up. Am hoping to find someone to wog the 1/2 with who will be willing to do the same. BTW, we LOVED BLAST! Since I marched drum corps as a teen, I wanted DH to see Blast! Then, I think he "got it" because he suggested taking the kids to see it. The other morning, I used that DVD to keep me motivated through some exercises! :teeth:

DisneyBelle-- Congratulations on your awesome finish in the 1/2 in Philadelphia! :thewave: You obviously have this down pat! Now you can concentrate on maintaining for the next 13 weeks, right!?

Colleen -- great time on your 5K! I hope your sister hit her qualifying time!

Sunny -- that time sounds pretty darn great to me, especially without tunes! The fact that you went out and stuck it out in the rain is impressive enough! :hug:

Nancy -- I am with you on the short legs thing, and until Lisa provided some advice last week, I had been stretching to get a longer stride instead of more steps. We'll have to try that and see how it goes. So glad you have advanced to the organizing stage -- the boxes everywhere stage is very disconcerting, isn't it?! :teeth:

helen -- your naked woman scenario had me :rotfl: I just don't get it. And at my gym, the moms are all walking around the locker room naked with their kids and I am so modest that I can't even imagine!

wfloyd -- thanks for the information for 2007 -- that is great for me to know. I put the registration opening date on my calendar! :)

Hi, Felicia -- Welcome aboard!

Sara -- I am blown away! The fact that people are doing halfs and fulls now is just mind-boggling. Congratulations! :thewave:

Thanks to everyone for your good wishes on DD's SATs -- I am still praying!

[wtpclc]

Hopy cow. I'm going to have to tell our families that we can't be gone on teh weekend anymore, as I just can't keep up with the marathon thread after a weekend away! :teeth:

Only had to do 6 on Sat. I was going to take it easy, as my legs have not felt great lately and the top of my left foot hurt and.....

I guess something in me's chagned, because that easy pace was a 10:36. Oh my. 10-miler next week. I'll be away again adn my home town is VERY hilly. (ALthough, I still did ok with the 6 there.)

As for the weekend, well, I went to the U of M game. Not a pretty thing. Of course, sports finatics will tell me that it was a good game because it was soo close. I prefer blow outs. And, any time my team loses, it is NOT a good game. I'll try better next week, but Penn State is coming off of a BIG win. Not looking good for teh home team. :rolleyes:

Shirts - bolded so that you know mty rambling has stopped - Thanks to Heather for the research! I skimmed through teh site she found a little too quickly and did not see that they did printing or missed something the first time. It sounds like we're good to go on lime green. let me know if I misunderstood!

[lacool]

To quote DD's old Winnie the Pooh board book, "It rained, and it rained, and it rained." The weather has not been kind to my training schedule. I put off my Friday LR until Sat, hoping it would clear up. It didn't, so I tried to do it on the TM. Well, my 7 mile goal ended up being 3 miles, with some wicked side cramps. I think I am running too soon after eating. I waited about 2 hours, but I think I need more digestion time to avoid those cramps. So I am going to attempt my 7 miles once again today, on the TM again because -- surprise -- it is raining. What I wouldn't give for a cool, crisp, New England-type fall day! Once the winter weather kicks in I will be much more appreciative of the Carolina weather, I am sure. :cold: Wish me luck!
--Leigh Ann

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Just poppin' in....these are the names I do not have confirmed for Trail's End. Please PM me or post on the dinner thread if you are still planning on joining us. :)

Boolou (2)
Goofyshell (2)
Plutosmyfav (3)
Stitch_lover_Sith (3)
Xterratri (3) DDE Discount Card
Zoegirl (3)
TammyNC (4)
Tiger Lily 03 (4)
Wiskband (5)
Goodcook5 (12)

[Minnie]

It sounds like the weather has delayed many of our traning plans. A big :cheer2: to those big :dog: out there that run in the rain but I'm not up to that point yet. Sat and Sun was raining and cold (dropped 30 degrees) and I didn't want to do the TM so I put my lr off until today and it is a beauty out there today. I can't wait to get out there tonight!

[wiskband]

Hi all1 fell of the wagon for a while, but I am back and OP!
just made my ressies for january and it got me back in the spirit of losing weight and training for 06!

BTW............got a great rate of 63 a night at pop thats with a AAA discount.
now that my kids are bigger we need two room so its still pretty afordable.
anywho, I will be dusting of the old treadmill this evening as well as going to curves. Ill be on this thread from now on faithfully! your all an inspiration.
talk to you all soon.

renee

[wtpclc]

Renee - Good to see you again! I think I've been off the wagon food wise fro over a year. Thank fully, I think ;),DH won't let me fall off the wagon exercise wise! I'll be at POP Friday night too! (Gotta' love that AAA rate!)

[crzy4pooh]

Hi everyone! :flower: Here are my race reports. I honestly have a horrible memory, so I can't give you a step by step account... :blush: Here are a few of the more memorable details, though.

DH and I did the Komen 5K on Saturday through Animal Kingdom. It was sooo neat when we pulled into the parking lot. It was still dark, but they had huge spot lights shining up behind Mt. Everest, and it was rather foggy - such an awesome sight! :goodvibes There were close to 5000 registered - there was a 5K fun walk/run (you could choose to be chip-timed) and a 1 mile walk. And they raised over a million dollars for breast cancer research - YEA!!! It was just so amazing to me to see all the pink shirts on the survivors - there are so many women of all ages (some looked to be in their 20's...), as well as male survivors. So inspiring! The race itself was great! We were backstage more than I thought we would be from the map, but it was still neat! The monkeys were out swinging, and we went past some of the pens in the back, cheered on by the animals making all sorts of noise! The heat was another story, though.... :faint: I did take it easy - I was a little nervous about Sunday's race, so I didn't want to push too much on Saturday. I also had never done training runs on back-to-back days, much less races.... So, I think I finished in a little over 40 minutes - official pace was 13:10.

Sunday, DH and I did the Disney Race for the Taste 10K. EPCOT was celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Food and Wine Festival, so they combined the race with that. Instead of shirts, we got aprons - too cute! It was basically the last 6 miles of the marathon route. The race started at Wide World, went through MGM, Boardwalk, EPCOT World Showcase, out past Spaceship Earth, and finished in EPCOT parking lot. We spent quite a bit of time in MGM - we ran on the track for Lights, Motors, Action - they had a camera on us as we ran by, and were showing us on the big screen there. There was noone around me at that point, so I stayed on the big screen for a while... :blush: EPCOT WS was awesome as usual. I knew I was far enough ahead of the sweepers, so I took my time and enjoyed the empty park. At the finish, DH was already done, so he found me and ran with me to the finish - that was too sweet!!!! :love2: Along the way, we were told we would have three water stops. They also had food, though! :teeth: The first stop had Cabot cheese (didn't eat this - I knew better...) The second stop had Ghirardelli chocolate squares - definitely needed this!!!! It was too funny to watch all the runners juggle a water cup and try to open the chocolate wrapper, eat it, and not spill everything in the process! :rotfl: The last stop had Goodings baked goods - muffins, danishes, and bagels. Yummy!!! After the races, they had the usual breads/muffins/bagels, drinks, fruit, etc. But they also had three tents set up with samples from the F&W. The American booth had BBQ beef and cornbread, another one had periogies, and the third (India??) was a turnover with curried vegetables - not my fav. The food was great, but probably not the best idea to eat heavy foods after running a 10K... :sick: Anyway, I finished around an hour and 25 minutes, with an official pace of 13:50. Not great, but not bad for taking the whole summer off... :blush:

All in all, we had a great time! My parents went with us to watch DS. They had a blast - plus it was my dad's birthday! We stayed in Carribean Beach, which was awesome!!!! Today I am taking it easy - my legs are sooooo sore!!! I may go out for a walk later in the evening, but won't try to run until tomorrow or Wednesday.

Hope everyone is doing well! Sorry to hear about all the rain, but I'm a bit jealous of the cooler temps! Happy training to everyone!

[solotraveler]

Crzy4pooh- Great race reports!! Congrats on the wonderful pace, too!!! You must be really excited for January now!!

Solotraveler :earsboy:

[gatorphipps]

I did my MFM 44 min (3run/1walk) yesterday evening and ended up going 5.08 miles so I averaged an 8:40/mile pace :earseek: !! I must say that the weather was perfect and I pushed it a little here and there, but I am VERY happy with that.
Solo - GREAT TIME! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: for you.

crzy4pooh - Loved your race report! Sounds like you had a blast. :Pinkbounc

Renne - Welcome back. It is GREAT to have all the support of this board. Glad you came back.

Colleen - Great 5k. I know you are happy about it. :banana: How did your sister do?

OK, I went to the YMCA today and ran 4 miles in 36 minutes (the TM KILLS me). Then I went to swim for an hour. I just love swimming. It feels so good to float. :cloud9: I think I have figured out the breathing. I know this is a running thread, but if anyone has advice about swimming, send it my way. Yes I saw totally nude woman walking around the locker room. :scared1: One woman was taking a shower with the curtain opened. :earseek: What is up with that? :confused3 Oh well....
Raining here today too. Rained all weekend, but I don't even think about not doing a LR b/ of :umbrella:. I guess that is why Bree calls me the Evil Queen of running.

Gotta run now (HaHa)
Christa

[TiffJ]

Cam- with my tapes it's the 2 mile that is 30 min long. I know it feels weird to do that for xt when I know I can do more. But the book does call xt days "active rest days"

I have the exercise stuff down, now I just need to get back on the eating healthy program. At least with all this walking I havent gained any but this weekend I realized I had 13 weeks to get myself into the best shape of my life. I couldnt have done this event when I was 17 & 135 lbs. I think that realization is going to help me get back OP.

Luckily the weather has cooperated here so far. I am not nearly dedicated(or some would call it psycho) enough to go 6 miles in the rain. I dont go to the mail box if its raining :umbrella:

I can't wait till January :cheer2:

[wtpclc]

I don't even think about not doing a LR b/ of :umbrella:. I guess that is why Bree calls me the Evil Queen of running.
And I think I married the Evil King! I need that, though. (Just don't tell him I admitted that!)

[perfectmatch300]

Problems with the heat today. Planned to walk and try out Lisa's suggestion of 70 steps/min on my walk but after getting dizzy while transplanting some sod in the yard I don't think so about the walking. I will be walking tomorrow, but it will be with DH and some friends so I don't know if I will be able to concentrate on steps amid the conversation. We will get some distance in but I'm not sure yet how far they want to go. They all walk a lot faster than me and that in itself always helps my pace. I'll try the step counting on a solo walk later this week and see how I do.

crzy4pooh, loved your race report. I thought about doing the 5K but was not able to fit it into my schedule. I think 2007 is going to be my year for races. Wonder if I saw you on any of the TV news clips. It really looked like fun!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Loved the race report. I may have to add that 10K to my agenda for next year. :)

[lacool]

Finally got Friday's long run in today. 7 miles (run 9 mins /walk 1) at a 10:23 pace. I am very content with that. I'm just glad to have it done. :cool1:
Now I have to get on the ball because my next LR is 8 miles this Friday. Gosh, that is soon!

[princessmomma]

Colleen - Great 5k. I know you are happy about it. :banana: How did your sister do?

Christa

Thanks Christa. This was the first time I ran with my MP3 player, I have to admit, it really motivated me. This was my best 5k time by over a minute.

Unfortunately, I sister didn't make her qualifying time. I haven't spoken to her yet. I know she will be upset she worked so hard. Her husband qualified and they wanted to run together. This was her third marathon and although her training runs were considerably faster than other years, this was her slowest marathon.

I have really been giving this racing thing a lot of thought, 20+ weeks of training for one day. I need to put more time into enjoying the journey. Don't get me wrong, I am really proud that I am doing this for myself. I wonder what could affect "that one day" ...too hot, too cold, rain, sickness, injury, etc., etc. I hope I stay healthy and I can see this goal through to the end. I think of Lisa and her illness last year, that is amazing that she even attempted the race, let alone finish. Lisa, your story was very inspiring as are all the stories here. One thing I definitely know, I am glad I am here! :grouphug:

Colleen

[MelRhoads]

Coleen - sorry about your sister's disappointment. I like your comments about enjoying the journey. I have come to feel this way about the races in which I have participated. I think I am so much happier in the race if I just enjoy it by taking in the course, talking to fellow racers and taking time to smile. That is pretty much the only healthy way for me to race, becuase even if I completely push it out, my time is not going to be that much different and I don't set any speed records anyway!!!!! :) :)

Im glad this thread is part of the journey!!!

[gatorphipps]

I have really been giving this racing thing a lot of thought, 20+ weeks of training for one day. I need to put more time into enjoying the journey. Don't get me wrong, I am really proud that I am doing this for myself. I wonder what could affect "that one day" ...too hot, too cold, rain, sickness, injury, etc., etc. I hope I stay healthy and I can see this goal through to the end. I think of Lisa and her illness last year, that is amazing that she even attempted the race, let alone finish. Lisa, your story was very inspiring as are all the stories here. One thing I definitely know, I am glad I am here! :grouphug:
Colleen - So sorry to hear that about your sis. To answer your questions about I wonder what could affect "that one day" There are so many things. Our coach calls a marathon day "serendipity". The day holds so many wonders, joys, disappointments, and pain. It is something different for everyone. You just run the best you can under the circumstances you are given, b/c you don't always get to choose them. My mother told me this when I ran my 1st WDW marathon. My FIL had a stroke the night b/4 we flew out and was in bad condition. DH wanted me to run the race, so we flew to WDW Saturday afternoon, I ran Sunday, then we flew back as soon as I was finished. My mom called to wish me luck and I told her I wish I was running under different circumstances. That is when she told me this. It is true in Marathons and in life. At least in marathons, though, you know where the end is.
Sorry I got so deep, but running is more than a physical thing. It is spiritual too. It pushes you where you never thought you could go, and humbles you when you get to proud. Serendipity!

Christa

[TEK224]

I think the journey can be more important than the end result. You discover a lot about yourself on those early morning work-outs (when you'd rather roll over and pull up the covers); the feeling you get when you feel like cutting a run short, but stick it out to the end, etc.

I want to be able to finish the Goofy before the sweepers, but still be able to enjoy the rest of the days (without being "gotta go to bed" exhausted).

A quick question though about our "journey": During the races, when going through the parks I've heard that you can stop and take a photo with the characters. Is this true? That would definitely help me enjoy the race and probably give me a boost when I need it.

Terri

[wfloyd]

One other thing at the expo this past weekend. They had a picture of the goofy medal. It looks like Goofy's hat and has a small raised area inside that I think looks like Goofy running. The ribbon says something about inaugeral on it but I couldn't see everything.

[gatorphipps]

A quick question though about our "journey": During the races, when going through the parks I've heard that you can stop and take a photo with the characters. Is this true? That would definitely help me enjoy the race and probably give me a boost when I need it.
Terri - There are characters throughout the race. Not only in the parks. And you can take pictures with them. It is AWESOME! :love:
Christa

[plutosmyfav]

I think I am so much happier in the race if I just enjoy it by taking in the course, talking to fellow racers and taking time to smile. That is pretty much the only healthy way for me to race, becuase even if I completely push it out, my time is not going to be that much different and I don't set any speed records anyway!!!!

Mel-- that is soooo true! I am learning that myself. For Applefest I knew if I pushed really hard and was miserable I'd hardly gain anything in time. Its just not worth it. I'm slow at learning things like this!

Colleen-- I agree about finding balance with training and enjoying the process. Since "official" training has started for me I find I resent my forced schedule sometimes. So much of this process is mental! I'm sorry your sister didn't qualify. That must be quite a disappointment.


Christa & Bree-- Your raining LR is what got me out of bed in the rain for mine!!! We need an Evil Queen of Running :p

Renee-- glad to see you posting :cheer2:

All this talk of naked women at the Y has me very concerned. Usually Dx takes DS to swimming lessons at the Y but last week I took him. When I take him I have to take him in the women's locker room to change because there is NO WAY I'd send my 5yo in the mens room alone. What if we see naked women walking around?????? :earseek: That will be terrible. I think there should be a sign that reads "For the comfort of others WEAR A TOWELL!!!!"

DD and I did a 4 mile wog yesterday. She's still only getting out once a week and we only have 3 weeks until our 5K. So I am actually going to pay her to run mid week for the next 3 weeks! I'm hoping if I get her hooked!!!! I think she will be able to finish the 5K at about 11:30 pace.

Rain all week. Shoe puddles or TM :confused3 its a tough choice!!!!

Happy Training Everyone :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

[MelRhoads]

Sunny - I think the IC would be very upset if she heard you say you need an evil queen around there!!!! :teeth: Isn't she evil enough??? :earboy2:

[eeyoresmom]

Hi everyone.I'm new to this board and wanted to introduce myself.My real name is Christine,I'm a 39 yo mother of 4 and am running my first full marathon with some of you.Lisa gave me some helpful advice on last weeks thread,thank you. This last week I've been plagued by lack of motivation and was wondering if the book mentioned in last weeks thread(the one that deals with the mental aspects of running would help)? Lately I've needed all the inspiration I can get.I know this will pass and am so grateful to have foun this board. :sunny:

[wtpclc]

Hi Christine! I don't know if it's quite what you're looking for, but there's a website with pic's of Bree and CHrista running in teh 2004 WDW marathon at http://www.ronhorton.com/wdwm2004_p1.htm . That was very inspirational to me!

Hang in there! It seems like a marathon should be a piece of cake to a woman with 4 children! ;)

regarding shirts - There is some question as to how to handle 2006 WDW Marathon/Half Marathon.

1. We cannot have "Disney" on there. Not sure about WDW. Any thoughts?
2. The set-up fees are ~$70 per screen. Having 2 different screens (one for half, one for full) per back may be alittle more pricey. I'll try to run numbers based on teh responses so far and let you know this week. However, if you have a great idea on how to handle that, I'd appreciate it!

[eeyoresmom]

Carrie,thanks for the link to Christa and Bree's site,it IS incredibly motivational.Makes me wish I was runnng with someone :rolleyes: Now I can't find the name of that book(the one that deals with the mental aspects of running).If anyone knows,could you post? Thanks again!
Christine

[solotraveler]

Morning all!

Colleen- Thank you for the reminder about enjoying the journey. Sometimes it's a tough balance-- you don't want to lose sight of the ultimate goal, but at the same time you need to take time to appreciate how far we've all come. I do it all the time during my weekday runs. Whenever anyone asks how my run went, I say "Eh, it was OK." What I fail to realize is that I am going a lot faster and a lot farther than I have ever gone before-- and there is certainly no shame in being proud of that.

Christine- Welcome!! So nice to have someone else on board. I think most of the people have struggled at one time or another with motivation. Stick with this group--- you won't stay unmotivated for long. Those pictures that Carrie linked are GREAT too.

Yesterday afternoon I did my 40 minutes (3 run/1 walk) and did 4.4(something) miles for a average pace of 8:50-something/ mile pace. I took this run a lot easier than I did Sunday's and that helped a lot. It feels like I am finally falling into a groove with this new 3/1 interval. I need to start getting myself psyched up for my 10 miler Friday (or as I call it "From the Start to the Contemporary").

All of a sudden this race feels really close. We are under 90 days at this point, right?? I find myself thinking about the race constantly and even the littlest things are exciting (i.e. our packets should come in the mail at the end of this month--- COOL! Shoe shopping-- AWESOME! PowerGel-- YUMMY!) I thinking I've completely lost my mind :rolleyes:

Happy training all!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

[Calcio]

Morning All. Martha and I were two of the Race for the Taste participants, and I can share the following experiences and difficultly-learned lessons.

1. Early October in Orlando is no time for any type of run. We were up at 5:30, turned on the weather channel to see the temperature was 75 degrees, the dewpoint was 75 degrees, so the humidity was 100%. Air so heavy and so still that when you took a breath you could feel it coming into your lungs.

2. When you announce a 7 a.m. start you need to start at 7 a.m. People who aren't there yet, well whose fault is that? Traffic or not, start the race. We're standing in the starting area with a couple of thousand of our closest friends, ready to go, already sweating, and the countdown to the start increases by 10 minutes. Given the weather, an early start gets us in sooner and hopefully while it is cooler. Thankfully this isn't a problem for the full or the half, since they absolutely start at 6 (wheelchairs) to clear the parks. People are keyed up and ready to go. Start the race!

3. The course was lovely and enjoyable. Roughly the last 6.2 miles of the Marathon. On Sunday we entered MGM from the SE, on marathon day we'll enter it from the North by the Tower of Terror. Running through MGM was fun, and the stretch out of MGM, along the canal, around Crescent Lake, and into EPCOT was also lovely. Warning for new marathoners like me, when you enter EPCOT in the UK pavillion and look across the lake at China, it looks to be 900 miles away. Circle the lake, under the big golf ball, exit EPCOT to the right of the entry turnstiles, and then finish about 200 yards into the parking lot.

4. Watch out for weavers, and I'm not talking about tapestries. Runners who don't run straight lines in crowds are a danger to humanity. At my age I'm no longer shy about verbally warning weavers who are about to enter my sphere of comfort. In fact, in a moment still laughed about at home, in this year's half marathon a young man almost knocked both Martha and I down for no apparent reason. I say almost as when he was at my outside shoulder coming across to take us out I struck him in the center of his chest with my elbow. He realized the reason for the message, and said, "oops, sorry." Martha's comment was, "I saw that, and thanks." Watch out for the other guy in the crowds. It would be the pits to lose your medal because of some fool who knocked you down.

5. Speaking of medals, the Goofy medal is the coolest thing ever. It is his hat, with him running on it, but it is surreal-Salvador Dali-esque. Oddly angled and shaped, it is a beauty.

6. And speaking of medals, I am in no condition to finish the marathon today. I learned a shocking lesson on Sunday about fitness.

7. Martha, in contrast, is the running machine. 1st 5K in 35 and a few seconds, 2nd 5K in precisely the same time, finishing just over 70 minutes, right at 11:20 for every mile. Her goal for the half is sub-2:30, and this is spot on.

8. In contrast, I had a major league disaster on Sunday. Yes it's hot and humid, and both crush me. I feel good at the start and go off at a comfortable pace, which is a bit faster than plan, but feels fine. I hit 5K in MGM just under 28 minutes and begin to fantasize about coming in around 55 minutes. Between 5K and mile 4, however, the heat causes my body to implode. Instant change from comfortable to horrible. It takes me 34.5 minutes to do the last 5K, and it is very ugly. I hardly remember any of the detail of the lap around World Showcase. I learned the tough lesson that once your body and legs go, no matter how much you slow down, it doesn't get any better. The funny thing is I was disappointed in my performance, but not too depressed, as the heat was a crusher, and I learned a really good lesson for January 7 and 8.

9. The lesson is that time absolutley does not matter on those 2 days. My target for the half is to finish and feel absolutely fresh and relaxed when I cross the line. I cannot push the pace at all, well maybe in the last 3 miles :teeth: , because I cannot afford a disaster on the first day. My target for the whole is to finish period. That means taking it easy from the first step. I cannot allow myself to fatigue at all. The disaster in the 10K wasn't fun, but the pain lasted for only 2 miles. A similar disaster in the marathon means many miles of horrible conditions, and a DNF (did not finish).

Sorry about the length. The moral for me is I have a long way to go in the next 88 days.

Good luck to everybody.

Craig

[plutosmyfav]

I just posted this on the shirt thread, thought people might miss it, so here it is again:

Here's a stab at solving the Event Description issues and adding the feather:

(Actually, I think the feather will help throw off any suspicion that WDW refers to Disney, a mickey head would give it away!)

(This would be the back of the shirt, the WISH with runners would be the front, correct?)

http://livinglively.com/WISHback_1.jpg

[wtpclc]

Thanks for posting Craig! I was wondering how you did. Woo hooo for Martha! Glad you learned such valuable lessons and shared. I am so with you on the heat and humidity. Those are killers!

I hope I have my normal kick at the end. I do believe that if I have anythign at all left, I will start to sprint as soon as I enter the boardwalk area! Then again, I should probably hold myslef back a bit. It'd stink to lose it all so close.

Thanks again!

solo - It's amazing how we fall into the new paces. It feels so good. Pixie dust for your aRace to the COntemporary Friday! We'll be doing our Saturday in Hillville! :(

Chrsitine - I wish I knew what book you meant, but Marathoning for Mortals teh only book I know. That's more than just teh mental aspect, though.

[aladdinsgirl]

Good morning, everyone. :sunny: Ugh, my heart is still pounding after last night's game. The Steelers won, but we may have lost our quarterback for the time being. Sending Roethlisberger :wizard: :wizard: :wizard:

I did 35 minutes yesterday--3.03 miles. I set the lap function on my Garmin for miles, it is very helpful to see what each mile is, instead of an averaged pace, but it is also discouraging because I can see that I slow down with each mile. My first mile was 11:16, my second was 11:24--okay, I can live with that, and my third was 12:12. Grrr. It is nice to know where I need to make my improvements, but hard to break bad habits!!

Craig--Sorry the 10K and the 5K were disappointing to you. But at least you learned what it's like to race on back to back days. Much better to have a yucky 10K/5K than a yucky 13.1 miles/26.2 miles. Tell Martha that she rocks! I think she'll definitely hit her goal for the half! :cheer2:

Christine--Welcome! So glad that you found us! I truly believe that preparing yourself mentally for a half or full marathon is just as important as preparing yourself phyiscally. I'm not an expert and this is my first run of any distance, but this is what I do to help myself. 1. I imagine my foot and my leg running without the skin--so I imagine the heel bone hitting the ground, the foot striking and my calf muscles pushing themselves up to push the leg forward. This is especially helpful on hills. 2. I just keeping telling myself "just put one foot in front of the other, that's all I have to do" and then when I get halfway and I need turn around I tell myself, "all you're doing is running home, you have to get home, so you might as well run and get there faster". 3. I imagine myself on the half marathon course. I watch myself running along the road, through Cinderella Castle, past the Poly, and into Epcot. And then I imagine myself crossing the finish line with a big smile on my face and probably a tear or two on my cheeks. I honestly believe these mental images will help me on January 7th.

I really want to take the time to say hello to everyone, but I'm afraid this post is already too long. :) So just know that I'm thinking about you all and sending you lots of . :wizard: I don't say it enough, but I am SO thankful for this amazing support group that I have. You guys rock! :banana: :banana:

Krista princess:

[aladdinsgirl]

Sunny--The shirt looks awesome!!!

Carrie--I forgot to tell you, :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: to the Lions! I know you're not a huge fan, but I appreciate them beating the one team in the NFL I truly hate: The Baltimore Ravens!! And for the record, I don't really hate the Patriots and Tom Brady, I just get very frustrated because they are a HUGE thorn in the Steelers side!! :teeth:

Krista princess:

[wtpclc]

Sunny - Our replies crossed in virtual space, I believe. Love the design! Your understanding is the same as mine.

[murcor]

You must MAINTAIN a 16 minute per mile pace for the entire race. At anytime you fall off of that pace...you are subject to being swept and prevented from continuing and finishing the race.

Here's the sweep pickup times--if you do not reach a particular point by a particular time--you will be swept. It is clear by these times that this is the elapsed time from race start and NOT the elapsed time from when you cross the start line. So plan accordingly :):
Mile Mark: Location Description: Time Allowed:
3.5 WALT DISNEY WORLD® Speedway 1:11:00
6.3 Magic Kingdom® Park Security Gate 1:56:00
8.1 Magic Kingdom® Parking Lot (Daisy) 2:25:00
10.2 World Drive Ramp to EPCOT® Center
Drive 2:58:00


A question for those of you that can help clear this up for me, considering the sweep pickup times are from elapsed time from race start and NOT the elapsed time from when you cross the start line.......

What is the approx time span from the 1st person crossing the start line and last person crossing the start line?

How fast does the last runner have to run to avoid being swept?

Thanks in advance

Angela

[wtpclc]

Thanks Krista! It's hard to be a huge fan of the Lions. To top it off, all of their wins this year have ocurred when U of M loses. I like to see the Lion's win, but don't hold my breath. If I have to pick btwn the 2, though, I'd rather see U of M win.

[keenercam]

Christa and Bree -- your pix are so amazing and inspiring! Thank you, Carrie, for providing the link!

Craig -- Thank you for sharing the experience you and Martha had this past weekend. I am only glad you weren't subjected to the flooding we had here,though I can't imagine functioning in that heat and humidity. I am glad you are okay. Congrats to Martha, too, for an awesome finish.

eeyoresmom -- welcome! The book "First Marathons" seems to be very inspiring for my husband -- it may be what you are looking for. I'd suggest going to amazon.com and putting in the search word "marathon" and taking a look at the text of a few of the books.

I agree with what everyone here says about the process being important and the mental preparation aspect being critical. I have learned more about myself in this process than in my entire life leading up to now. However, I also am so grateful for so many people on this thread (Craig, Sunny, Melissa, Lisa, Carrie, just to name very, very few) because I could not have even found it in myself to continue at times without the assurance that it IS a process and that progress would come with time and effort.

Even today, I am often intimidated (especially after Howard finished a 15K on Sunday in 83: something and I wondered if I could ever "go that distance" much less beat the sweepers). But every time I wonder, I come here for a fix and a boost and it feels do-able. As Craig has reminded me, I would not have been able to do it in March or June or September, but I WILL be able to do it on January 7. :teeth:

Speaking of which, I did my 30 minutes walking last night (MfMWtH week 2) and covered 2.1 miles. Here's my journal post from last night (I was a bit exhilarated ;) )

Did my 30 minutes "walking" tonight at the Y on the treadmill. Covered 2.1 miles. That is a 14:17 pace -- well ahead of the sweepers! The question is whether I could sustain that pace. I did the following intervals:
warm up to 5:00
jog at 5.5 mph to 6:00
walk at 4 mph to 10:00
jog at 5 mph to 11:30
walk at 4 mph to 15:00
jog at 5.0 mph to 16:20
walk at 4 mph to 20:00
jog at 5 mph to 21:20
walk at 4 mph to 25:00
jog at 5 mph to 26:00
walk at 4 mph to 30:00

I was dripping sweat when I was done. My hair was soaked. I was so proud of myself. That was the most I've jogged in 30 minutes before. Can't believe I was able to jog at a 12 minute mile pace or faster for 90 seconds. It really wasn't much harder than doing a slower pace jog. I'll have to try to push myself a bit on that.

I LOVE my ipod. It makes such a HUGE difference!


Sunny -- I LOVE the designs you have come up with. I think they are perfect! Thank you so much for sharing your talent with us! :worship:

[NCRedding]

murcor: I believe that the time from the first person the start line to the last person crossed in 2005 was about 10-12 minutes--I could be a little high on the minutes.

There are clocks set at some (maybe all--I don't remember) mile markers that indicate what the time is in reference to the first person crossing. This way you can pace yourself. Conventional wisdom has it that a 15 minute pace is very safe to prevent being swept.

From 2005 experience: Watch out for the guys on the bicycles if you can also see Disney buses parked on the side of the road. We barely missed being swept before MK. We could see 3-4 buses parked in the median, then we saw the bike guy, who pulled his bike into the line of walker and told the people behind us "I am very sorry, but all of you need to get on the buses". We took off running, and didn't stop til we had passed at least 100 people. I know some of the people just ignored him.

[keenercam]

From 2005 experience: Watch out for the guys on the bicycles if you can also see Disney buses parked on the side of the road. We barely missed being swept before MK. We could see 3-4 buses parked in the median, then we saw the bike guy, who pulled his bike into the line of walker and told the people behind us "I am very sorry, but all of you need to get on the buses". We took off running, and didn't stop til we had passed at least 100 people. I know some of the people just ignored him.

That is absolutely scary to me. I was actually shaking when I read it. I know I am going to bust my butt over the next 12 weeks and I am going to have such a negative feeling about :moped: ! :earseek:

[zoegirl]

Hey you guys!!

I'm glad you guys have been enjoying our pictures from our 1st WDW marathon. As you can see from the pics we weren't exactly the fastest in the pack but we weren't the slowest, and we had an absolute BLAST every step of the way. What you guys have been saying about the race being a journey is so true. If you let it scare you then you won't try and even worse you won't have a good time. I have spent way too much time being scared of what life is going to throw at me. I didn't do well in sports growing up b/c I would always stop short of following through with something for fear of "so in so" beating me or being faster or better than me. Running in marathons (at least for those of us not running to win prize money) enables you to compete with yourself. You are the only one that can get yourself to the finish line. yeah it's great to have running partners, encouragers, coaches, and evil queens but when it comes down to it, you are the only one that can make yourself take those steps to finish. I can not even begin to explain the pride you feel when you cross that finish line. The sense of accomplishment is so overwhelming..well for me it was anyway....and the medal is just icing...

Well this week is not starting off well - I was sick all weekend, and layed out of church Sunday and work yesterday. I haven't been sick for two years, but I guess running in all this damp weather did a number on my immune system. It has rained for about 6 days straight here...YUCK!! I want some sunshine!!! I didn't run yesterday and I may not work out tonight either just to make sure I'm completely better for the LR Friday. Sometimes you just have to admit defeat and let yourself get better..this cold has kicked my tail...and hard!

Well must get back to work, the lunch break is over :sad2:

until later,
~bree~

[keenercam]

Bree -- Feel better, kiddo! So glad you are being smart about letting your body recover. Sending you :goodvibes: and :wizard: that you'll feel better for your LR!

[sara]

Craig, I hope you don't mind me saying this...your 10K story gave me a chuckle. Been there, done that and will probably do it again sometime. :rolleyes1 Just glad I'm not the only one.

Having afterthoughts from my marathon on Sunday, and I really think what saved me is the Pacers. (not the basketball team :rotfl: ) The beginning felt too easy, but I stayed with them. After the halfway point I broke away, but not too far. :earboy2: I felt like I could relax ( :confused3 ) and enjoy, not having to worry about speed. It really helped me.

The Goofy medal sounds too cool. I guess I better buck up and start training for it. Not this week, though, still attached to the ice bags. ;)

Oh and I think I'm going to join the Garmin club. My question, is it very big? With all the data is holds, I imagine it to be bigger than a sports watch? :confused3

Good job with the training. :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Sara

[TXBelle]

Sunny- Love the design for the shirts.

I did not want to get out of bed this morning, but I heard Lily's words in my head: "You have to put in the steps." So I got up and went to the gym for 55 minutes of walk 3/run 2. Thanks Lily for the inspiration and motivation. :flower:

[wtpclc]

sara - The Garmin's size is the quality I like least. It's about 2.5 to 3 inches wide about 1.5 inches high. That being said, I have a very small wrist and it did not take long to get used to it. The big screen makes it easy to see 3 reading at one. Typically, pace time and distance, although there ar sevral options, plus a custom screen. I love it!

[Calcio]

Cam

That's a lot to be proud of. As you said, 6 months ago you never would have believed you could do that pace.

Also, do yourself a favor with the sweepers. Remember they start the 16 minute per mile clock when the last person goes over the start. I don't want you to start in the front or middle and get trampled, but don't start in the far back either. When you get to the starting corrals look carefully and the crowd and estimate a place you can jump in which will put you in the right place for the start, but not put you in the way back.

If you can get across the starting line just 3 minutes before the last person, you've bought yourself 3 minutes of cushion with the sweeper. At the 10 mile point you're really talking 20 second per mile, which means your 15 minutes per mile pace gives you 80 seconds vs. the sweepers. If you can hold that pace for 10 miles you will be 800 seconds ahead of them, over 13 minutes. At that point you'll be home free and no matter what you won't get swept.

Keep it up, you're going to do yourself proud.

Craig

[keenercam]

Thanks, Craig! That is awesome advice! I had no idea there could be that big a difference. I really appreciate you taking the time to share all these precious tidbits of information. Every one gives me a bit more comfort and confidence. :hug:

[sara]

Thanks Carrie! I have a small wrist, too. I'm going to look into getting one! :flower:

Sara

[littlegreydonkey]

Hi all - I was going to say what Craig said. Most of us, especially in a first event, have a tendency to hide at the back (I call it gym class syndrome) but when there are 14,000 people in front of you, you want to try and be as ahead of as many as possible right at the get go. So, get into your corrall - and, in the immortal words of Dory, swim down - ie turn left not right (assuming they're set up the same way round as two years ago).

I didn't have a great run Monday night - first 6km with my normal running buddy was great, then I switched partners (only wanted to do another 6km, not a 10km) and ended up with a friend who runs much faster than me, and skips back to meet me, making me feel unfit, useless and pathetic, so I feigned exhaustion at 2km and turned round, annoying but less demoralising that continuing.

The Race For the Taste sounds great (well except for Craigs boinking) - curry at the end is my kind of event!!! Happy training. Helen

[PCFriar80]

Hi!
Just hopping on board with this thread for some motivation and information!
My DW and I are running the 1/2 for the first time this year (actually next). I've run two 1/2s before, but that was back in '95 and '96 (my younger days). My DW is concerned with the sweep but I have reassured her that she'll be fine. We've be running 4/5 miles a day diligently for the llast 5 years and need to increase our distance(s) over the next few months.

I'm trying to get psyched, but get anxious about things going wrong.....twisted ankle while training, the flu or head cold at race time or a snowstorm in the northeast that impacts our travel plans!! I know! Get over it!!

Anyway, some race and race expo logistic questions..... since we go off at 6:00 AM how is the course lighting? Can anyone tell me what we get in our packages at the expo? Should I bring gels? What about the water/food stations along the course? Any other general race info would be appreciated!

I realize these may be petty questions, but it's raining here now and any thing to settle me down will be helpful!!

Thanks so much for the help!! ;)

[Lisa loves Pooh]

A question for those of you that can help clear this up for me, considering the sweep pickup times are from elapsed time from race start and NOT the elapsed time from when you cross the start line.......

What is the approx time span from the 1st person crossing the start line and last person crossing the start line?

How fast does the last runner have to run to avoid being swept?

Thanks in advance

Angela

Won't know until race day--but for the full marathon--the mats were shut off at 7:13..indicating that it took 13 minutes from first to last person. I was 30 seconds or so past that. Once you passed one final check point, they pretty much allowed you to finish.

Since the field is about 50-100% larger....not sure what they will do. But I believe the sweep times should be taken as written.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Thanks Carrie! I have a small wrist, too. I'm going to look into getting one! :flower:

Sara

I have tiny wrists as well. I wear it fine.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I am not a happy camper. My knee has slight swelling (more like puffiness) above the knee cap. Source unknown. Sidelined for one week (xtraining okay--hello chilly swimming pool!).

I may switch to a walk-run plan. I have 2 weeks to decide what to do....but to say I am miffed is an understatement. Last week went so well and I am following the coaches advice. I am supremely disappointed and have lost track of the number of times I have cried today over it.

I walk so slow--I don't even begin to know how to cross over at this point to walking the full.

[plutosmyfav]

Craig-- I'm so sorry to hear your race weekend wasn't so pleasant. Here's to better weather for Goofy :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: Congrats to Martha!

Bree-- Hope you get better real soon. :grouphug:

Cam-- your the best :grouphug: Grab hold of Dumbo's feather and FLY!!!!!!!

Well I just sunk another $50 into the "free" sport. I officially registered for the Run To Remember Half in Boston, March 11th. That should keep me on my toes in the post-marathon blues season.

I did a 6.8 mile TM run today. It wasn't bad, 5 minutes slow warmup, then 50 minutes at 6.7 mph, then 5 at 7.2 mph then down for some comfortable cooldown. I have finally committed myself to Hal Higdon's Intermediate II training schedule. It was easy to jump in at this point since my LRs and weekly mileage was already a bit above the schedule. I just spent an hour working each and every workout into a busy fall/Christmas lineup! It requires vacation time, swapping hours on days, jumping through hoops... ok, you get the picture. The worst part is I am going to have to do 2 5AM runs mid week, every week :earseek: I guess we should all be independently wealthy to run marathons :confused3 Ok, ok, I'll stop griping now!!!!

Now its off to the gym for lower body weights.

Colleen suggested centering the first lines on the t-shirt back. Here's the centered version. I think it looks better, too.

http://livinglively.com/WISHback2.jpg

[NCRedding]

PCFriar80: The bags that you pick up at the expo contain a shirt, your number, 4 large safety pins, and event guide and schedule. This year, they also had pamphlets from other marathons, and some trial size tylenol.

According to the 2005 event guide, there were 22 beverage stations set up along the 26.2 miles of the marathon. Fruit was available at miles9.1; 13.2 and 19. Nestle snacks were available at Miles 9, 13, and 23. Power gels were available at miles 9 and 16.

Disney brought in portable lights so once the race started, I had no difficulty in seeing. Walking thru World Showcase just before dawn, with the torches on and the lights on the building was awesome--I wish we still had an opportunity to do that, but the route has changed.

[PCFriar80]

Thanks NCRedding!! ;)

[chimera]

Welcome Christine! :wave: The book I liked for the mental aspects of training was the Non-Runners Marathon Trainer. Got mine from Amazon!

Welcome back, Renee, Angela, Sara and PCFriar! Great to see all of you again!

Sunny...LOVE the shirt design! Will we be able to add our screen names and/or real names as well?

Carrie...thanks for doing the pricing on the shirts!

Craig...sorry about the weather :guilty: It's a more gooey outside than normal for this time of year. I love your math when it comes to these races...I always feel a bit less nervous when I see some numbers. So it's good to not be in the last corral cause you get a cushion from the sweepers?

Lisa...sorry to hear about the knee! That must be frustrating!

Cam...we saw Blast twice at EPCOT, then caught the whole show when they were here in town a few years ago. Very cool! DH was on the drumline at his high school, I was in the guard at mine, so we both really went back in years watching Blast.

Krista...glad the Steelers pulled it out last night. What was up with the Chargers uniforms? I was wondering if they'd lost a bet or something ;)

Had a glorious 'run' last night, but then was disappointed. Thought my pace would be better cause it felt so good, but ended up with a 15:04. I've really got to get better about cross-training. I'm committed to heading to the Y on Friday!

[TiffJ]

I can't wait to proudly wear my WISH shirt. I think they look awesome :banana: You have done a great job Sunny!

Welcome to all the new people. Always great to add to our WISH team.

You guys are right-this whole process is very exciting for me. Never in a million years would I have attempted something like this. Just registering was exciting. Training is going well & I can't wait to see what happens 1/7. I don't plan on getting swept, but even if I do, having the courage to start this adventure is pretty cool all by itself.

I'm looking forward to getting my packet later this month. Just puts us one step closer to the real thing.

What is also funny is I am a huge Christmas fan. It is my favorite time of year, I go all out & enjoy the whole season. Now I keep looking right past it to the marathon weekend.

[TEK224]

I took the poll in another thread and gave my size. I love Sunny's design. How/when are we going to pay for these? I don't want to miss a post and not get a chance to get a shirt. Sometimes it's easy to miss a post in a 100+ thread).

Terri

[Minnie]

I was in MAJOR PAIN this evening during my run. My sciatic starting acting up with a piercing pain in the section below my hip and at the panty line in the front. The pain continued down into the right side of my knee. My upper thigh area was also throbbing but it didn't have the piercing pain as with the others.

I was able to finish my wog at an okay pace but had to drop back to a walk because any running at all brought the pain back severely.

I've been to the chiropractor with little success. Any suggestions?????????

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I just looked on the Runner's World injury forum and they recommed a tennis ball on the tushy around that spot where the sciatic nerve starts.

I use a trigger point therapy ball (though not for sciatic) and fell I get better pressur out of it. you can go to http://www.tpmassageball.com/ . I got my ball at the Disney Expo last marathon...and I use it ALL the time.

[wtpclc]

Shirts
WHen I get all of my ducks in a row, I will post on this thread in bold and post on the Shirt thread at the very least. If you posted on either of the previous shirt polls, I will pm you if I do not hear from you. After today, things should get a little lighter for me and I will crunch numbers, get final costs and give final time lines.

[eeyoresmom]

Mel, thanks for the name of the book,I believe I saw it yesterday at B&N.It will make good reading material while I'm still nursing this muscle strain(very frustrating,I injured it 2 weeks ago doing some speed work :guilty: ) Not gonna let it stop me though,once I get this frustrated it lights a fire under my butt! Although I am running the full,my 18 yo daughter is running the 1/2,will I be able to meet her at the finish and anywhere along the route to cheer her on?(Im not sure if the finish is in the park or the parking lot)I will have a car,is there anywhere I can meet up with her along the route? :sunny: One more question.Do we use the restrooms in the park should the need arise? :blush: Thanks for all your help everyone,happy training :sunny:
Christine

[plutosmyfav]

Well I survived my first weekday 5AM run. It was not very much fun. Pitch black, rainy, wet leaves and pine needles everywhere, ankle deep puddles I couldn't see to avoid in the dark. So I'm thinking I need to get me one of those "head lights" like Mel had for her Adventure race. But returning home before 6AM and being wide awake and already exercised was great! I'll probably fall asleep at my desk, though :faint:

As far as screen names on the shirts-- I believe everyone would be responsible for their own shirts on that, it costs $70 per screen set up and I doubt anyone wants to pay that for one shirt!!!!!! I am pretty sure you can have an iron transfer made and iron on your own (but I don't know how well that would work and if the shirts can handle iron heat, etc.). I might try researching it a bit.

Sunny

[TXBelle]

Mel, thanks for the name of the book,I believe I saw it yesterday at B&N.It will make good reading material while I'm still nursing this muscle strain(very frustrating,I injured it 2 weeks ago doing some speed work :guilty: ) Not gonna let it stop me though,once I get this frustrated it lights a fire under my butt! Although I am running the full,my 18 yo daughter is running the 1/2,will I be able to meet her at the finish and anywhere along the route to cheer her on?(Im not sure if the finish is in the park or the parking lot)I will have a car,is there anywhere I can meet up with her along the route? :sunny: One more question.Do we use the restrooms in the park should the need arise? :blush: Thanks for all your help everyone,happy training :sunny:
Christine

The finish line for both the 1/2 and the full marathon is in the EPCOT parking lot. There are port-a-potties located along the race route. In addition, the rest rooms are open inside the parks and at the Transportation and Ticket Center near the Magic Kingdom.

[princessmomma]

I was in MAJOR PAIN this evening during my run. My sciatic starting acting up with a piercing pain in the section below my hip and at the panty line in the front. The pain continued down into the right side of my knee. My upper thigh area was also throbbing but it didn't have the piercing pain as with the others.

I was able to finish my wog at an okay pace but had to drop back to a walk because any running at all brought the pain back severely.

I've been to the chiropractor with little success. Any suggestions?????????

Minnie, sometimes after I have pulled all my tricks out my bag to help an injury, I go see a massage therapist. They are so good to just loosen everything up and sometimes diagnose the problem. It works for me because my muscles get so tight even though I stretch and stretch and stretch some more. I usually have to go twice in 3 or 4 days and it really seems to help. He/she should be able to give you exercises or stretches to help the problem.

[Calcio]

Mel

Yes, too bad about the weather at WDW last weekend. It's almost worse to hear that it's usually much nicer and less humid. Last night I was able to do something I could not do on Sunday; run a relaxed, strong, and even 10K. It was cold and raining, so I was on the College's indoor track. My plan was somewhere between 4 and 5, but I felt strong, so did 10,000 meters. Needless to say I felt redemption after Sunday's flop.

Regarding those powder blue San Diego Chargers' home uniforms, easily the best looking uniform in North American professional sports. They are the classics from the original AFL, matched with the stark white helmets with the lightning bolt and number on the sides. I don't understand why the team doesn't junk those horrible navy blue things from the 1980's. Retro is cool.

For Everyone Who Is Concerned That The Sweeper Will Get You, I have thought of some hints to give you a few more minutes and increase your change of getting to the finish successfully.

1. Hydrate the night before, lots of water and non-caffinated drinks, maybe one beer or glass of wine, but no more. When you wake up don't drink much, little sips, but little coffee and don't drink lots of juice. You should already be hydrated, so shouldn't need to fill up in the early morning.

2. Do not start at the very end (as previously posted). Do not start at the front or in the middle either, remember the serious runners will blow out at the start and they aren't very forgiving to walkers or slow movers. Seriously, you could get pushed, knocked over, etc. It happens. Fine, avoid that bunch, but get into the starting corrals in an area that you feel comfortable in, that is in the back half, but not at the back. You'll save a few minutes vs. the sweeper here.

3. Start at your target pace. You've trained and know what, say 15 minute miles, feel like. You cannot start slowly, warm up, and hit that stride. You need to be there right away. Of course, you need to hold this pace for the entire distance, so you must concentrate every minute. If you let your mind wander into the ethernet you may slow down and not be aware of it.

4. Start your watch when you go under the starting banner, and carefully monitor each mile. Some watches will show you each mile split, others don't so you need to calculate it in your head. If you hit mile 2 in 30:20, then be looking for mile 3 in about 45:30. Sooner and you've picked up pace, later and you've slipped. A slower mile can be corrected right away if you are tracking each mile's pace. The mile markers are big, tall, and whimsical. You'll have no trouble seeing them. Use them to make sure each and every mile is what you need.

5. Keep moving. Moving along with others doing the same pace is great, it makes the distance go faster and you pull each other along. Having said that, if your "group" begins to slow down, you must say goodbye and keep your pace. You cannot afford to slow down with them. You've worked too hard to get to the finish to put yourself in danger of getting swept. Helping others is great, but don't let others slow your pace. In this case it is all about me.

6. Don't stop EVER. And I mean EVER. At the water stops, slide over to the tables, get your drink, and drink while walking. You don't need to drink huge volumes at the stops anyway. Drink down your little cup while walking, and then get back to your target pace right away.

7. Bathroom breaks are to be avoided at all costs. Yes, when you gotta go you gotta go. Thus avoid coffee in the morning. A sure way to get swept is to spend time standing in line during the race, and then emptying the tanks. If you've been prudent with fluids in the early morning you'll be fine. The danger of this year's half course is the first real bathrooms you'll see are probably at mile 5.5, inside the Magic Kingdom, in tomorrow land. Guaranteed there will be a line there. If you have to go, wait until you are in Frontierland. There are bathrooms on the left between the Diamond Horseshoe Review and the Shooting Gallery. These will hopefully be non-line facilities, as all will stop at the first bathroom. If you come across a port-a-potty with no line, fine. Unfortunately, the probability of that is close to zero.

8. Be efficient in your course. This means do not take wide corners. At first in the crowds you will be forced to stay wide on some, tight on others, but after the crowd thins out, save valuable steps. You need to take the shortest possible route whenever possible. If you're on a sweeping curve, you want to act just like a race car. Start high, follow a straight line to the bottow of the curve, then follow a straight line to the top. Effectively you are running tangents instead of arcs. The distance saved over 13.1 or 26.2 miles on a turning and twisty course like WDW is huge.

I suppose this sounds like the rantings of a compulsive-obsessive personality (guilty :rotfl2: ), but if you can save yourself an average of just 6.5 minutes over the half then you've bought yourself 30 seconds per mile of cushion.

My last bit of advice paraphrases the pre-show to Soarin' (the gentleman who is the voice of Kronk in Emporer's New Groove), have fun. The training is the work. The race is the fun.

If anyone has other hints and tricks, please post them.

Craig

[Lisa loves Pooh]

As far as screen names on the shirts-- I believe everyone would be responsible for their own shirts on that, it costs $70 per screen set up and I doubt anyone wants to pay that for one shirt!!!!!! I am pretty sure you can have an iron transfer made and iron on your own (but I don't know how well that would work and if the shirts can handle iron heat, etc.). I might try researching it a bit.

Sunny

Team in Training does washable puffy paint--this works very well!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Mel


For Everyone Who Is Concerned That The Sweeper Will Get You, I have thought of some hints to give you a few more minutes and increase your change of getting to the finish successfully.


If anyone has other hints and tricks, please post them.

Craig

An add on to the start at your race pace...

Use the waiting time as your warm--up--walk around the parking lot (you'll walk from the busses)...walk around while listening to the band)...you'll be walking to the corral...perhaps use this as a very light time to wog a little just for warming up...do some jumping jacks or marching in place in the corral...and then once everyone starts moving...do your best to hit the ground running or walking at your pace. :flower:

Coach recommended, tested tried and true...do the potty line exercise: Stand in line, pee, repeat....do this 3-4 times....visit again on the walk to the corral. Do this even if you do not have to go. Sit and you will find that you do have to go. This helps to prevents sudden--gotta pee now problems while in the corral and in the first few miles.

If you gotta go--you gotta go, but whatever you do do NOT do NOT do NOT DO NOT stop at the first potties at the first water stop....precious minutes will be lost and this are the only ones with a line!
(well--a big long line anyway).

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Visited the chiropractor today for the knees and while I was there got a tune up on the spine for which it was truly grateful :).

The knees---the GOOD news..he had me try somethings...and since I could do them, the chances of a serious knee problem are slim to none. YEAH! He adjusted the knees. Has no clue what the puffiness is...it could be as simple as I'm just getting fat knees. Oh joy! NOT!

Went to sports authority to donate more money to this industry! Hah!

Bought a life preserver as I had read that will help keep me upright completely for deep water running. since my one size fits all jogging belt does not fit (grrrr!)...when i saw this suggestion I jumped on it. Unfortunately I had to pay $40 b/c it was the only small size (everything else was XXL or oversized). The good news is, I didn't have to by the $100 vests. Not like I'm taking up water skiing as a sport!

I have 2 weeks to make a decision for the full or the half...so hopefully I will get in some good medical advice to make the proper decision.

Toodles--time to play in the pool!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

HEY calcio--it might be just that time to start a race day tips thread....that way all the tips will be in one place, and everyone can do their best to start practicing them.

:)

[MelRhoads]

Sunny - wearing a headlamp will only make you cooler than you already are!!!! They have pretty inexpensive ones at Wal-Mart in the sporting goods section. It is nice to move and have light hands-free. The problem is that you will find new needs for it and you will be caught working out in your yard in the evening with a flashlight on your head! :rotfl2: I'm sure the IC would love to have you running in the early morning darkness with a light on your head

I did a 3 mile run on monday and am resting for the remainder of the week as we have an adventure race saturday (it starts somewhere bet. 3 and 5 am!) I have not been on my mountain bike since the last adventure race but I think it should be fine. I can't imagine them having more than 6 miles of single track. I don't think it is going to hurt me too badly anyway because I think my rear is still numb from the 100 miles on my skinny road bike seat this past weekend!!!!!

[plutosmyfav]

Sunny - wearing a headlamp will only make you cooler than you already are!!!! They have pretty inexpensive ones at Wal-Mart in the sporting goods section. It is nice to move and have light hands-free. The problem is that you will find new needs for it and you will be caught working out in your yard in the evening with a flashlight on your head! :rotfl2: I'm sure the IC would love to have you running in the early morning darkness with a light on your head




Yes, I already thought about it. If the family caught me running with a light fixed to my head they'd have me committed for sure :rotfl: Luckily there aren't too many people out gawking at 5AM!!!! But the yard workouts could be tempting...

Good luck on your next adventure :wizard:

[gatorphipps]

regarding shirts - There is some question as to how to handle 2006 WDW Marathon/Half Marathon.

1. We cannot have "Disney" on there. Not sure about WDW. Any thoughts?
2. The set-up fees are ~$70 per screen. Having 2 different screens (one for half, one for full) per back may be alittle more pricey. I'll try to run numbers based on teh responses so far and let you know this week. However, if you have a great idea on how to handle that, I'd appreciate it!
I have a quick question about the shirts. Will there be a Goofy too? I am only getting 1 shirt. Others may not want a goofy b/c of $$, but it would be nice to have that option. Maybe do a poll or something.

Melissa & Sunny - Bree and I sometimes start our runs around 0300 or 0400 so the head lamp really seems like a cool idea. Every Evil Queen needs one.

Melissa - :wizard: sent to you on your bike race!

Advice on potty breaks and stopping - For the Marathon last year and the year b/4 there were plenty of them b/4 and during the race. I used the potty many time and never had to wait in line. Always go to the last port-a-jon, they are the least crowded. Don't go in the parks. they are very crowded...I know this from using them in 2004. As you will see, the woods are always an option too. :rolleyes: Bree and I also stopped to take lots of pictures too. We were way ahead of the sweepers. So I guess if you are near the sweeping time, don't stop to do this.
WARNING: Stupid story time - I did a 1/2 November 2004 (to get in a higher corral @ WDW2005). It was @ one of the YMCAs down town and there were not port-a-jons. I had to pee VERY BAD! I never got to. I started running and by the time I found a jon, I was ahead of schedule and did not want to stop. I did PR that day and got into a higher corral. I think @ the end, I was running to the potty and not to the finish line. That may have made me go faster. :rotfl:

Sunny - You signed up fo a 1/2 on march 11? Cool! I am trying my 1st Tri that day. Cannot sign up until Jan 1st though. Send me :wizard: :wizard: to get in. My sis may do it with me.

We are getting so close! :hourglass
Christa

[wtpclc]

I have a quick question about the shirts. Will there be a Goofy too? I am only getting 1 shirt. Others may not want a goofy b/c of $$, but it would be nice to have that option. Maybe do a poll or something.

Right now Sunny's design just says WDW MArathon Weekend Jan 7 and 8, not exact, but you get the drift. I'll add that to my number crunching and let you know. My world should be right-side up tomorrow. (I hope.) :confused3

[MelRhoads]

Christa - are you not going to FREEZE to death doing a tri in march????? :confused3 BURRRRRRRRR

[chimera]

If anyone is still interested in joining us and didn't get a chance to vote in the original poll, please post to the Marathon Dinner thread. We may have some extra seats available!

[xterratri]

Did my first tempo run on the MFM plan tonight and discovered when I got back and looked at the pace chart I was cruising over 1 minute/mile faster than I should have been. Ooops. I knew it felt kind of hard but I attributed that to the weekend at the World, exams yesterday and today, not running since the half oct 2, and oh yeah 20+ mph winds.

Someone from the Coastal Carolinas posted what they wouldn't give for a nice cool clear New England day. We've had exactly one so far this year in coastal Maine and that was the day a group of us rode 50 miles so we actually started out in either arm warmers or long sleeve jerseys. The weather is especially hard to take after spending the weekend in Orlando.

Mom and I walked the Race for the Cure. We didn't see crzy4pooh but as she posted there were over 5000 people there. They delayed the start of the race 10 minutes because of late arrivals just like Craig/calcio said they did the next morning for Race for the Taste. We had to get there early to do packet pickup as United had tried stranding us at Washington Dulles so we got in later Friday than we had expected. We got up at 0430 Friday morning because we were told to give at least and hour for security and the flight was scheduled to leave at 0605. They boarded the plane, started taxiing and then the pilot announced we were no. 2 for departure to IAD but there were some delays due to weather there. It then became a ground stop in washington so we parked and sat at the end of the taxiway for an hour. Okay, ground stop, everything should be delayed and that was the assurance being given as we headed into DC. We hit the ground at 0818 and our connected left ON TIME at 0825. Customer service for United at the airport then put us( and over 30 others that we knew about) on standby for a full 1220 flight. The first seats they could guarantee us were on Sat. I was not a happy camper as we had tickets for MNSSHP for that evening. So I called United customer service and that person got us confirmed seats on a US Air flight leaving at 1:10 going to Charlotte and we would hit Orlando at about 5:30. We would have missed our ADR for LTT but still made most of that party so I said we would take it. We thought we had plenty of time to kill so we went over to the terminal(Z) for the Charlotte flight to get our boarding passes printed. The only US Air staff there were working on boarding a flight to Pittsburgh. I explained what I needed and why and this is where it got surreal.

They figured the person count for the puddle jumper at 28 out of 32 seats and were going to close the doors. Apparently while this was being done the rep was doing some magic finger thing because we're suddenly being told to that since we have our luggage(carry ons for short trips) to go get on the plane. No boarding passes, unsure of the flight number we were switching to in Pitt or when it left. We landed in Pitt at 1103, rapidly discovered that the flight number was 459(not the 439 I thought she had told us as we were being pushed out the door to the plane)
and that it was scheduled to depart at 1120 from the other end of a different terminal. Airport sprint number 2 of the day(we had tried catching the earlier United flight). We walk(okay ran) up to gate with me arriving first, I hand over my driver's license and sure enough we're listed on the manifest and she had the boarding passes printed by the time mom and erin arrive. It was 1108. We even had exit row seating with leg room and were in Orlando before 2, checked in at OKW, and headed to the parks shortly after 3. This is the second time in 2 trips to Disney that US Air has saved the day for us because they had our tickets flagged for the july trip due to the flight being delayed and we would have missed our connector. They put erin and I on an earlier flight that we had to sweet talk TSA to make but actually got us home over an hour earlier. We were already ticketed to fly back to Hartford on US Air and I think that in the future I may make a point of booking on them(we're already booked on Air Tran for X-mas and Delta-uhoh for the marathon). US Air really saved the day on Friday as we made both the MNSSHP and our LTT ADR. Enough of my transportation rant.

Sunny- I love the shirt design. I like that we'll be in a more unique color as we couldn't find crzy4pooh in 5000 so we talked about how much worse it will be with 14000-15000 people.

Question time: how do the corrals work? I forget what race and time I used for a seed time so I'm wondering if I should send the time from the half Oct 2. I know I'm not going to run a Boston time but I still want to finish in the 4-4:30 range so I want to make sure I don't end up in the last corral. Also what about if you want to run with a pace group(the Clif people) that is faster than the corral you get put into? Are the corrals just suggestion or are they enforced?

[disneybelle]

Sounds like everyone is chugging right along. I've been derailed by an unexpected root canal, but expect to be contributing shortly.

Anyone seen the info on the inaugural Minnie Marathon Weekend. Looks like my daughter (11) and I will be spending some Mommy and me time together doing a 15K in WDW come May.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Question time: how do the corrals work? I forget what race and time I used for a seed time so I'm wondering if I should send the time from the half Oct 2. I know I'm not going to run a Boston time but I still want to finish in the 4-4:30 range so I want to make sure I don't end up in the last corral. Also what about if you want to run with a pace group(the Clif people) that is faster than the corral you get put into? Are the corrals just suggestion or are they enforced?

You can call to see if you can resubmit--my understanding is the time you submit is the one you get...and you have to provide proof. Sub 5:30 requires proof. I would call immediately and find out what you need to do. Submitting a proof-required time without the proof places you in the last corral :(.

self-destructed message..but it's quoted below...so that messed up my point of posting that it would self destruct.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Sounds like everyone is chugging right along. I've been derailed by an unexpected root canal, but expect to be contributing shortly.

Anyone seen the info on the inaugural Minnie Marathon Weekend. Looks like my daughter (11) and I will be spending some Mommy and me time together doing a 15K in WDW come May.

Yes--I would LOVE to do this! (The minnie..not the root canal. ;))

[gatorphipps]

Christa - are you not going to FREEZE to death doing a tri in march????? :confused3 BURRRRRRRRR
The swim part is indoors and last year the weather was beautiful. Now it could be snowing too. You never know. Normally it is nice.
Christa

[gatorphipps]

Question time: how do the corrals work? I forget what race and time I used for a seed time so I'm wondering if I should send the time from the half Oct 2. I know I'm not going to run a Boston time but I still want to finish in the 4-4:30 range so I want to make sure I don't end up in the last corral. Also what about if you want to run with a pace group(the Clif people) that is faster than the corral you get put into? Are the corrals just suggestion or are they enforced?
I resubmitted my time last year. Under 5:00 has to have proof of time. What I did was take a printout of the race I ran to the expo (it was too late to send it by mail) and they changed my corral. This is what they told me to do.
You can hop out of the corral as lots did to go potty in the median--just get your bearings straight and you can go get in the corral you want...best to do this when it gets how shall we say crowded....not that I suggest doing this. But corrals are very much enforced, especially the quicker ones.
I would not suggest trying to sneek into a different corral. In 2004 and 2005, they were very good about checking who goes in and comes out @ the marathon. I do not know about the 1/2. I guess if you go under the ropes. But it is so easy to get it changed and I would not want to be in a corral that is too fast for me. You time does not start until you pass the start anyway, and all corrals are crowded. :confused3

[Tiger Lily 03]

I did not want to get out of bed this morning, but I heard Lily's words in my head: "You have to put in the steps." So I got up and went to the gym for 55 minutes of walk 3/run 2. Thanks Lily for the inspiration and motivation. :flower:I thought I "heard" my name! Oh so glad to be of service!
:cool1:
Race tips, great idea.
Sorry for MIA, I cannot believe I am just now checking in. Where did I go? :confused3

I am trying to read it all. We have become quite a group. This is great!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I resubmitted my time last year. Under 5:00 has to have proof of time. What I did was take a printout of the race I ran to the expo (it was too late to send it by mail) and they changed my corral. This is what they told me to do.

I would not suggest trying to sneek into a different corral. In 2004 and 2005, they were very good about checking who goes in and comes out @ the marathon. I do not know about the 1/2. I guess if you go under the ropes. But it is so easy to get it changed and I would not want to be in a corral that is too fast for me. You time does not start until you pass the start anyway, and all corrals are crowded. :confused3

I'm self destructing that tidbit...but at a certain time it gets to a certain point--and there was nobody checking those taking potty breaks who were hopping back in.

[Tiger Lily 03]

We have new people! Welcome new folks. Come often, post lots!

I love the headlamp idea. I will not run as it gets dark and that saddens me. I am afraid of finding that “bad” spot along the road and injuring myself.

Wish they had a lighted place to run outdoors as it gets dark.

I have not seen the info about the Inaugural Minnie. Oh I must find it!

Lisa, thanks for posting that info regarding the pacing. I remembered it somewhat from before, I am actually in a better position to have tried it some now. When I do “my” pace I understand why I coined the term “Wog” now. I cannot quite sustain a 90 strike pace, but when I was going in the 80’s my HR was cranking beyond what I would be able to sustain for long. When I moved downward toward the 60’s I felt I was going too slow for me and would never make the finish line in time. Hence—Wogging! I think I am going to incorporate my during the week stuff at the goal toward 90 and the lr way way less than that. The good news is that I am finding that I am able to feel much better at this time than I did earlier so progress is occurring.

I don’t know what it is that seems to be going on with me. I’ve suddenly developed different pains. One ankle feels like I need to pop it like people do their knuckles and the other has some slight pain on the outside of the heel as near the Achilles tendon. Sigh. Wondering what to do with myself.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Tigerlily--the walking pace is not 90, it is 70...so your wogging is probably a bit like race walking. :) So in the 60s...you are in a good zone!

[xterratri]

I have the more recent proof of time and definitely am not trying to do something outside of my ability so I will contact them and see about submitting it.
I'm mad at the Mouse!!!!
Disney seems to delight in figuring out ways to separate me from my money and get some of it for themselves(they must be in league with the airlines as co-conspirators). So the surgeon said Erin can't run the 2006 race so I was looking to see if her half entry could be transferred to me(no) or rolled over(still have to register and pay again, what's the point?) and I go to the main endurance page to look at the triathlon schedule. Minnie Marathon Weekend??? What's that? Oh, a 15K called Women Run the World, you say? On my birthday(The 5K by the spa and shopping, excuse me, DTD and SSR)? I wonder what my exam schedule is? Hmmm, 3 exams the week before but only confirmed the following week are Emergency Medicine which I could pass now and ACLS which can be intimidating the first time through but not the 3rd. What are the airline tickets? Oh, that's high(see, co-conspirators) but they'll come down. I'll try and get a BRP rate for ASMo seeing as we will be flying in for about a 48 hour stay. Not to worry Disney planners, you can separate me from more of my money when I'm back later in the month for 8 nights. See, very bad Mouse!!! I just going to have to visit again soon to tell the Mouse that.

[MelRhoads]

I have never done a race that was so big there are timing corls. I submitted my half time when I registered. Do they automatically put me in one based on that? If so, when do I know where I am????

[TiffJ]

O.K. where are you guys seeing the info about the Minnie in May. That would be so cool. It would also give me the next thing to work towards so I don't become a couch potato on Jan 9th. I am hoping to keep up this racing thing. I went to the marathon website & didnt' see anything about it.

Glad everyone is doing good. Last night wasnt. I am much better if I get my walks in the a.m. but the kids are on fall break this week & entertaining them is getting in the way of my training so I had to wait until DH got home last night. I didnt want to go but I also had that little voice in my head ...Just put in the steps, you've got to put in the steps!

As you all know that little voice can be quite annoying but it did get me through the walk. My pace wasnt what it usually is but not as bad as I thought. I was glad when I finished that I had at least put in the steps!

[disneybelle]

The info for the Minnie Marathon Weekend is here (not sure how to post links or if its permissible):

http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/endurance/events/detail?name=EnduranceMinnieMarathonWeekendEventInf oEventDetailPage

It looks like so much fun and a girls weekend away is never a bad thing, especially paired with Mouse time!

[TiffJ]

Ooohhh!!!! Thanks Disneybelle! I want to go to that. It looks like alot of fun, especially going thru all the parks.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I have never done a race that was so big there are timing corls. I submitted my half time when I registered. Do they automatically put me in one based on that? If so, when do I know where I am????
What did you say you would finish--full or half and in what time.

What was your proof of time from the half.

They accept proof of time for races of 10K and higher. You need not use a previous marathon as proof of time if I understand your question correctly.

[plutosmyfav]

When I registered I put down 4:30 for my time and TBD for my proof. Then I emailed them with my July 4th 10K results and asked to change my time to 4:20 . I received a reply saying it had been done so I think I'm good to go. If you end up in a chorral that is too slow for you, how hard is it to catch up? Can you? I can't imagine running with so many people.

Christa-- I knew you'd be the next Tri among us :cheer2: You ROCK!

[eeyoresmom]

Lisalovespooh, If I registered for the full,can I switch to the half? Unfortunately for me,my quad injury does not seem to be getting any better and I know I need to rest it for a bit.(yesterday I could only run for 3 min before the pain got really uncomfortable.I finished the session with really fast walking) If I get too far behind in my training... I don't want to attempt the full if I'm less than 100 per cent :confused3 My daughter is running the half and I've already run that distance several times in my training so I should be able to run that(as long as this injury subsides in time) Do we have an option to switch races? Thanks for all your help and happy training everyone.

[wfloyd]

Lisalovespooh, If I registered for the full,can I switch to the half? Unfortunately for me,my quad injury does not seem to be getting any better and I know I need to rest it for a bit.(yesterday I could only run for 3 min before the pain got really uncomfortable.I finished the session with really fast walking) If I get too far behind in my training... I don't want to attempt the full if I'm less than 100 per cent :confused3 My daughter is running the half and I've already run that distance several times in my training so I should be able to run that(as long as this injury subsides in time) Do we have an option to switch races? Thanks for all your help and happy training everyone.

According to their website, transfers between races are not allowed. They will allow you to defer it a year though.

[welovedis]

Wow, it took me quite some time to read this week's post! You guys are amazing! :)

Been a long time since I've checked in here, started out the year full of enthusiasm, ran some great 5K & 10K races over the year so far, but got sidelined by a back injury and some surgery as well.

I've got the ok to start training again, started the MFM Walk/Run 1/2 schedule and while I am doing ok with it, I'm not doing the 11-12 minute miles I was before the surgery--bit bummed about that.

DH was planning on doing the 1/2 w/me but is now sidelined himself with his own back issues, so he's going to plan on running the 5K with our DS, I'll see how I feel after the 1/2 & either run or cheer them on! :)

Good to see so many here from way back in January, looking forward to seeing alot of green shirts (you are wearing green shirts right?) in the corrals in the early morning hours. :sunny:

[welovedis]

Sorry for the 2nd post, but wondering what you put down as your anticipated finish time for the half? I put mine at 2:20 (bwahahahaha) but that is really out of reach now with my surgery rehab. :teeth:

[welovedis]

Is there another link to the WISH marathon logo for 2006? I tried the link of the FAQ thread and it wasn't working......just curious!

[aladdinsgirl]

I am SO jealous, my Mom got a personal e-mail from John Bingham!!!! :worship: My Mom is signed up for the half, started her training back in the summer, well in the end of August she was having trouble breathing and was coughing. She went to the doctor and they told her that she had pneumonia--no running, no walking, no exericising for at least a month. She finally got the okay from her doctor last week that it would be okay to start walking, but after over a month off, she's lost some of her training. She e-mailed John Bingham and asked his opinion if she had time to get ready for the half. He wrote back and said to start slow, build up distance and endurance at her pace, and she'd be more than ready in January to walk to half. John Bingham also said that getting to the start line is the victory, crossing the finish line is just the icing on the cake. :goodvibes I thought my fellow penguins would love that!!

Krista princess:

[wtpclc]

Krista - That is so cool! Thansk fro sharing!

Karen - Welcome back! Here's some pixie dust for you and your hubby! :wizard:

[sara]

Krista, that's a cool story!!! How fun to have your mom training, too. :sunny:

All this corral talk. This year with the race having more runners and pacers, I'm not sure what they are going to do. Last year...corral A was sub 4:00. Not sure exact numbers, but with proof of 8:XX and lower, you were placed in A. Corral B was 4:00-4:30. I pretty sure proof was 9-10 min/miles. I e-mailed them enough and this was my understanding. :teeth: The elite/sub elite were placed in front of A. Like someone said, you can change your corral when you get to the expo. And, if it matters, there's no problem going to a lower corral if you want to run with a friend.

To all those injured :wizard: get well quickly, pixie!!!

Beautiful day here. Too bad I'm not running. :guilty:

Sara

[zoegirl]

Hey guys :wave2:
I finally feel human again! I have basically taken the whole week off to get past this cold, so I'll either be fresh for my LR tomorrow or I'll bonk. Either way it has to be done so it's "suck it up and get it done time". At least I haven't been sick during a double LR week.

I didn't really have time to go over the past couple day's posts but I did see the link to the minnie marathon. That is SOOO cool! Is it for girls only?

Well I must go for now. Hope you all are doing well.

~bree~

[plutosmyfav]

Krista-- love the JB info :flower: He's the greatest. What a nice treat for your Mom.

Thansk for all the info on corrals. I will bring my proof of time with me to the expo (wouldn't have thought of that before) just incase they don't have me in the right corral. If its the same as before I want to be in corral B (and have proof).

I did 7 miles on the TM in 65:20. The good part about running on the TM is that it is so boring I go fast!!!!!! I am forcing DD out for a wog tonight. We need to get her ready for our 5K. Tomorrow is a rest day. Boy I need it.

Sunny

[Lisa loves Pooh]

When I registered I put down 4:30 for my time and TBD for my proof. Then I emailed them with my July 4th 10K results and asked to change my time to 4:20 . I received a reply saying it had been done so I think I'm good to go. If you end up in a chorral that is too slow for you, how hard is it to catch up? Can you? I can't imagine running with so many people.

Christa-- I knew you'd be the next Tri among us :cheer2: You ROCK!


Well--if you are one corral behind..you just line up at the front of that corral and it wouldn't be too hard at all...If there's a whole corral in between..you don't want to burn yourself out playing catch up.

But you will still be able to run on pace as your chip time will be your result...your official time will be off though.

[MelRhoads]

Lisa - I think I have them 5:15 as a projected time (which I totally pulled out or the air!) I have never done a full and I am doing goofy so I figured I'd be significantly slower than my half mar pace. I submitted a time of 2:10 which is a pace of 9:59 from a half I did in February. Does that mean they already have a corral assigned?

Still resting for the race this weekend :-( Getting caught up on laundry and dusting Double :-(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

If you submitted your time and proof together, then yes. I thought the time for proof was 5:30..but someone posted 5. I'm pretty sure it is 5:30. If so, your proof will be sufficient to keep you in the appropriate 5:15 corral. Since they were submitted at the same time, I'm not certain you could request to move into an even more quick corral.

[crzy4pooh]

I have to say a great big "THANKS!!!" to all of you! I was reading through the posts after lunch, making my usual excuses about why I don't feel like running, I'll do it later, it's too hot, blah, blah.... And you all motivated me to get up, get my running clothes on, get DS in the jogging stroller and run! Yea!!! It was overcast, humid, and still a bit too hot for comfort, but it was good. :cool1: Of course, listening to "Go faster Mommy, go faster, go faster..." helped spur me along! ;) I did 3.5 and will try to do some light biking tonight. Thanks again! :goodvibes

I went to the running store today and picked up several varieties of power gel, gu, and one other brand to try on our long runs. Does anyone have any favorite brands/flavors for the gels? What works for you?

I am also looking at the 15K Minnie. It would be awesome to be in an inaugural women's event with my fellow DISers! :flower: For anyone interested - I asked this past weekend what the dates for the Danskin triathlon were going to be since they haven't been posted anywhere. The Disney rep said that it was set for Sunday, May 14 (Mother's Day) - a week after the Minnie weekend. I'm definitely planning on that! (THe 15K would be a great warm-up...) ;) If you have ever considered a triathlon - it's supposed to be one of the best for beginners. The swim is 400yds (I think) starting/ending on the beach in front of MK, 12 miles on the bike, and two miles running (through MK). I volunteered last year with one of my friends, and wished I had done it then. There were women of all fitness levels and sizes. Anyone else interested??? :teeth:

Well, got to get ready for work. I'll check in with you all later!

[TiffJ]

O.k. you guys are trying to turn me into a real athlete. I never even thought about doing a 1/2 marathon & here I am. I thought that would be as far as it would go. Now the info on the Danskin traithalon has me interested. I would never in a million years considered that but it actually sound doable. Especially by next May :rolleyes:

I also like the idea of the Minnie. What to do...what to do....

[crzy4pooh]

Now the info on the Danskin traithalon has me interested. I would never in a million years considered that but it actually sound doable. Especially by next May :rolleyes:

I also like the idea of the Minnie. What to do...what to do....


You could always make a week of it and do both!!! :teeth:

[plutosmyfav]

I am also looking at the 15K Minnie. It would be awesome to be in an inaugural women's event with my fellow DISers! :flower: For anyone interested - I asked this past weekend what the dates for the Danskin triathlon were going to be since they haven't been posted anywhere. The Disney rep said that it was set for Sunday, May 14 (Mother's Day) - a week after the Minnie weekend. I'm definitely planning on that! (THe 15K would be a great warm-up...) ;) If you have ever considered a triathlon - it's supposed to be one of the best for beginners. The swim is 400yds (I think) starting/ending on the beach in front of MK, 12 miles on the bike, and two miles running (through MK). I volunteered last year with one of my friends, and wished I had done it then. There were women of all fitness levels and sizes. Anyone else interested??? :teeth:




Oh you guys are killing me!!!! My friends and family already think I'm totally nuts for my Disney addiction. I couldn't possibly pull off another trip so close to the January one, but it sounds oooooooh so tempting! Maybe I can get DD hooked enough to want to do Minnie.... Maybe our next thread should be dedicated to creative financing for this dual running/Disney addiction we share :rotfl: Afterall, NEITHER are cheap!!!! :crazy2:

[gatorphipps]

I think I have them 5:15 as a projected time (which I totally pulled out or the air!) I have never done a full and I am doing goofy so I figured I'd be significantly slower than my half mar pace. I submitted a time of 2:10 which is a pace of 9:59 from a half I did in February. Does that mean they already have a corral assigned?

Melissa - 2:10 is the same time I turned in. :cheer2:

Everything I know about corrals - I was in B last year. Started out in C but turned in a lower time and got to B. They would not let my buddies come down with me, so I stayed in C. I was wanting to enjoy the race with them. Anyway.....In 2004, the corrals were totally different. I haven't checked, but b/c the race is only a marathon or 1/2, I bet they will be changed again (I could be wrong).
I did not plan to sound mean when I said not to try to sneak into another corral. I just feel like they are going to put you into the corral you need to be and I would hate to be caught doing that. B/c with my luck, I would be caught. :teeth:
All I am telling you is from my 2 WDW marathon experiences. If anyone has run it and has another opinion that is great. :goodvibes

Christa-- I knew you'd be the next Tri among us You ROCK!
Sunny - You are so AWESOME! I don't rock....I think my head is full of rocks though. :rotfl:

LR tomorrow, but only 10. :sunny:
Christa

[chimera]

Sorry for the 2nd post, but wondering what you put down as your anticipated finish time for the half? I put mine at 2:20 (bwahahahaha) but that is really out of reach now with my surgery rehab. :teeth:

KAREN!!!! Great to see you again!

I put down 3:00 for my finish time. We're in the process of ordering green shirts, so check out the shirt thread if you're interested. And pop into the Trails End dinner thread...we have seats available if you and your family would like to join us! Oh...and right-click on the WISH team in my siggie, then copy the location to yours. It should work!


I totally want to do the Minnie marathon ::MinnieMo I definitely won't be able to make the Disneyland half, so being in the inaugural Minnie would be fabulous :earsgirl: We were thinking about scheduling a weekend trip then anyway :love:

ETA: Today's pace: 14:24 :maleficen :dancer: Woohoo! :banana: That's my best pace ever outside of a race. This W3/R2 thing is hard, but must be working! And I think the ASICS have officially edged out the Nikes for half marathon race shoe!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Just had a thought....

I keep having days where I feel like I am training for a pie-eating contest instead of a marathon. Why is that?

[eeyoresmom]

Hi everyone, can someone please tell me about the post race celebration at DTD after the marathon? Is it a must do? My daughter and I only have the full day on Monday to enjoy the parks and we're wondering if we should attend this or spend the evening at a park? :rolleyes:

[littlegreydonkey]

Hi guys - just read 5 pages straight so can't remember much, but weighing in on the bathroom conversation. I've done 13 halves now and never had to go during the race (and I'm a 2+ hour runner remember) because of the Queue, Pee, Repeat rule Lisa spoke about (tee hee, just realised that's the same initials as boyfriends favourite Uk soccer team). However, one word of warning, no matter how many times you visit the bathroom, as soon as you start running you will decide you need the bathroom again - you don't, Not sure if it's psychological or just things moving around when you run, but it soon goes away. That's my lot today as between work and running I'm a bit low in spare time. 15 miles for me tomorrow (gulp). Helen

[Tiger Lily 03]

eeyoresmom, For the awards ceremony answer...go to this link (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=929866) where I gave my rendition. You might make your decision after reading that.

I so wish I couldget the time and dollars to go play in the Minnie. That will be so fun. Sunny, I'm liking your fundraising thoughts. Not a fundraiser here though. sigh.

crzy4pooh, wat a great idea of using Minnie as the warmup for the next weekend. Hey Sunny......
:teeth:
I use gu, I do a half packet at a time and carry the other half until I can choke it down. Seems to be the only way it works for me. I don't mind most of the flavors. I can't remember the one I used that Liz bought for me in Chicago, but it was a caffienated one that I took early on so I didn't get my lack of coffee headache as we began. It worked for me.

Lisa, stop eating pies! :rotfl2:

Bree, glad you are among the living again.

Helen, 13 halves wow you are the big :dog2: :dog: :pug: :earseek:

All the talk of the potty breaks has me wanting to go now. I really had to go as we were doing the half in Chicago and to my dismay, not a potty until almost the finish line. I spotted that mecca and it felt oh so good.

Corral talk, I started in almost the last one. It took me 9 minutes to cross the start line. Even with the sweeper times clearly marked, they clearly state the last person over the line will have a 16 min mile pace. It seems like those times posted earlier for the sweeper took that into consideration. Just do as we've been advising and strive for that 15 min pace. You will even have time for some photo ops along the way. I did.

It can be done!

Today I went out and put in those steps. I must say I don't know what got into me, but I had a great thing going. I managed 5.2 miles and my pace averaged to 12:48. (Thanks to the Garmn info I didn't have to calculate it.) I will NOT be sustaining that on the BIG weekend, but I feel good about this and will hope to be able to stretch this out and manage that full distance. Still stressing about that some. Having the pain in the heel area and not liking this. Not sure what to do about it. I think our running store has a podiatrist help with people on Wednesdays and I may drop in to look see next week.

[wtpclc]

Just had a thought....

I keep having days where I feel like I am training for a pie-eating contest instead of a marathon. Why is that?
So that's my problem...

Helen, I'll remind myself during my 10 that you're doing 15 this week. Maybe that will help. Good luck!

[plutosmyfav]

Just had a thought....

I keep having days where I feel like I am training for a pie-eating contest instead of a marathon. Why is that?

You signed up for the pie-eating contest? I apparently signed on for the donut-eating contest. :rolleyes: Never in my life have I craved donuts like I have since I started LDR! What gives??? I've decided its not physically possible for me to outrun my appetite :confused3 But I'll keep trying ;)


http://www.livinglively.com/clipart/director.gif
STEP AWAY FROM THE PIE AND NOBODY GETS HURT :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[TEK224]

Pies, donuts... not good for me (And my mother LOVES to bake!) :) I try to tell her I'm in training, but she just looks at me like I'm nuts! :rotfl:

Forget just the desserts, I feel like I could eat a cow! I did an hour on the elliptical tonight and came home to eat dinner. Ate average size portion of meat, veggies and a salad. Felt comfortable, not overstuffed. By the time I was done the dishes I was starving. Felt like I hadn't eaten a thing.

Sometimes I think I'm running just so I can eat :earboy2:

Terri

[crzy4pooh]

You guys are killing me with all the food talk!!!! I already ate dinner, and am trying desparately to stay out of the snacks!!! :blush: I did make the comment to a coworker tonight that I am feeling the stress and strain from the (many) extra pounds I have put on since last year's half. The extra weight really makes a difference on your knees and ankles (and breathing)! Put down your pies and donuts!! And tell me to do the same!!!! ;) Actually it's the pop-tarts for me... DS and I may have to do without them until after the marathon... :teeth:

Tiger Lily - thanks for the info on the gu! I got four flavors of each kind of gel, so I'll let you all know our recommendations...

Tomorrow is a light day and Saturday is 10 miles. Hopefully this cold (cool) front we are supposed to get will make it pleasant on Sat. morning! :sunny:

Happy training! :cheer2:

[zoegirl]

You signed up for the pie-eating contest? I apparently signed on for the donut-eating contest. :rolleyes: Never in my life have I craved donuts like I have since I started LDR! What gives??? I've decided its not physically possible for me to outrun my appetite :confused3 But I'll keep trying ;)


http://www.livinglively.com/clipart/director.gif
STEP AWAY FROM THE PIE AND NOBODY GETS HURT :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:


Oh My Gosh!!! I thought I was the ONLY one experiencing this this week!!! Except I'd be at the chip eating contest!! Love salty stuff.
I told my mom last night that I feel like I can not get full no matter how much I eat. She said me too..I thought "Um ok mom you're not training for a marathon, but hey misery loves company, pass me that candy" Glad to know that I'm not alone in this :rotfl:

I would love to do the minnie marathon and the tri.....I just need to figure out a way to do all that if I'm pregnant :teeth: I've promised DH that we can try to start our family next year. I've been giving him the "one more marathon" excuse for almost three years, he might leave me if I try to put it off any more :blush: I really do want kids (actually I just want Christa's kids, I wonder if she's willing to let me borrow them?), I just don't want to slow down for pregnancy....I'm so selfish, my poor husband.

Well guys send me a little pixie dust this morning for the LR. I slept about 3 hours last night. Layed awake listening to the dog snore, until about 2am. My mom slept over last night and she was up at 5am, so that meant I was up at 5am. I think this just must be my off week. It seems one thing after another keeps happening, first I was sick, then I couldn't sleep hardly all week, now my dad's in the hospital having his gall bladder removed, I can't quit eating junk and lots of it...AAAAAHHHHHHH poor me!!!!! That's the end of my pity party. It could be SOOO much worse couldn't it?

Will check in later,
~bree~

[wtpclc]

Ok, I admit it. It's not really just pie. It's anythign I can put in my mouth!

Shirt Update
I had a few size availability and time frame questions and contacted alertshirt. We can get ss, sleeveless and long sleeve. There does not appear to be minimums for anything, even if not shown on website. It looks like we may need to special order some sizes so it could take up to 4 weeks. I hope to have all details and sizing specifics next week (Sunday if all goes well and I do not need to reconfigure parents VCR) and order end of the month.

[eeyoresmom]

Lily,thanks for your reply about the post race celebration :sunny:

[plutosmyfav]

I have to exercise my "Bragging rights, twice removed". My friend's son (the one I told you about who runs marathons sub 2:30), just placed 2nd in the Steamtown Marathon 2:22:22 (5:26), a PR! :earseek: He won $1,000.

Onto another topic. I was walking across the parking lot this morning, in the rain of course, and a thought was rattling around in my head... "Did Bree and Christa say they run 0300 - 0400??????" You do mean Oh-Three-Hundred, as in 3AM, right????? OK, you take the "truly insane" award!!!!! But it gives me hope to think if push comes to shove, I can just head out earlier to get the mid-week, semi-LRs in. phew.

OK, I had my first Marathon nightmare. I dreamt that I got a letter from Disney informing me that they had too many people registered for the marathon and therefore some people were going to have to run it on their own training courses and just report in their times!!!! I was one of the ones they selected to run at home. I was devestated and desparately trying to rearrange my travel plans accordingly. :rotfl2:

Today is rest. (by this point in the post you are probably thinking 'she needs more than just rest' :rotfl: ) I left the house without my gym bag. It was a little scarey but I did it :teeth: I have an umbrella so I can always go for a walk at lunchtime if the rest is getting to intense :p

Sunny

[eeyoresmom]

Hi everyone. I've read in a few posts thet we should be receiving "a packet" :confused3 in a few weeks.What is this? TIA

[Minnie]

I've got to get my tail in gear! A crazy schedule as led to me doing no training except for the one earlier in the week when I was hurting so badly. Kind of nervous to get out there again so I've let my schedule run right over me :moped:

I've got a chiropractor appointment tonight to look at my sciatica again and then I'm going to do an easy walk this evening to loosen things up and then my lr tomorrow morning (4mile). I've decided I'm going to put the steps in some how some way even if it means walking instead of running.

Good luck to everyone on their lr this weekend!

[gatorphipps]

I have to exercise my "Bragging rights, twice removed". My friend's son (the one I told you about who runs marathons sub 2:30), just placed 2nd in the Steamtown Marathon 2:22:22 (5:26), a PR! :earseek: He won $1,000.

Onto another topic. I was walking across the parking lot this morning, in the rain of course, and a thought was rattling around in my head... "Did Bree and Christa say they run 0300 - 0400??????" You do mean Oh-Three-Hundred, as in 3AM, right????? OK, you take the "truly insane" award!!!!! But it gives me hope to think if push comes to shove, I can just head out earlier to get the mid-week, semi-LRs in. phew.

OK, I had my first Marathon nightmare. I dreamt that I got a letter from Disney informing me that they had too many people registered for the marathon and therefore some people were going to have to run it on their own training courses and just report in their times!!!! I was one of the ones they selected to run at home. I was devestated and desparately trying to rearrange my travel plans accordingly. :rotfl2:
I told you I had rocks in my head. Yes that is 3am. :earseek: We are crazy, but as you all know, the Holiday season is crazzzzzy, and that LR has to be run. :rotfl2:
Sunny, your dream had me :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:.

Did LR today. Did 11 miles. Felt nice and cool today so the run was easy. Trying to talk DH into goinging swimming with me this afternoon, but he is not really wanting to. I told him the "girls" would LOVE it. The girls being me, DD5, and DD7.5. :earboy2:
Hey all this talking about eating......I eat SOOOOOO much you all would :earseek:. Training makes me crazy for food! I can outeat my DH who is 6'4'', 210lbs. :teeth:

On that note, later all, Christa

[Jodi]

Hey Guys!!! :wave:

I know, it's been a loooong time since I posted, but I've been reading all along. You guys are sooo funny. My husband was looking over my shoulder the other day & cracking up. It sounds as if everyone has been training like crazy! Goodness! I can't believe it's almost here :bounce: .

If you remember, last postings my knee was bothering me. I gave it a rest, started running again, & it's "ok". I ice both my knees after exercise, & heat them @ night. They usually hurt the day I run, & the day after, but by the next time they're ok. I see my visions of running the 1/2 in 130 minutes fading slowly. We'll see.

Last night I had some wicked pain in both knees while laying (lieing? you know what I mean) in bed. Sharp pain intermittently that I've never experienced before. Yaaayyy, new pains. Tomorrow I go to my massage thereapist/accupunturist guy. More pain :earseek: :rotfl: . Sweet!

Has anybody in the northeast finished building their ark yet? I'm finishing up tonight & loading the family in tomorrow. I've been forced on to a treadmill 2x b/c of this weather, hopefully we'll get some relief tomorrow.

Keep goin' everyone, we're almost there!!! I'll make it across that darn line if I have to crawl.

Jodi

[Tiger Lily 03]

I would love to do the minnie marathon and the tri.....I just need to figure out a way to do all that if I'm pregnant :teeth: I've promised DH that we can try to start our family next year. I've been giving him the "one more marathon" excuse for almost three years, he might leave me if I try to put it off any more :blush: I really do want kids (actually I just want Christa's kids, I wonder if she's willing to let me borrow them?), I just don't want to slow down for pregnancy....I'm so selfish, my poor husband.
~bree~Bree, you can do it all! Yup, there was a very nice young lady that we walked with at the Chicago half from Team in Training in Atlanta. I think she was in charge of that in some capacity. Well anyway, she was preggo and had a sign whilst she was walking the half that she was doing it for 2. She said that she was going to take the medal from the event and place it in the baby's room. You can do that too!
:teeth:

Rest day here too. I am loving that. I already went out at lunch for a stroll, as in really a stroll. It is lovely here and I have to be out.
:sunny:


gotta chug...more later

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hey Guys!!! :wave:

I know, it's been a loooong time since I posted, but I've been reading all along. You guys are sooo funny. My husband was looking over my shoulder the other day & cracking up. It sounds as if everyone has been training like crazy! Goodness! I can't believe it's almost here :bounce: .

If you remember, last postings my knee was bothering me. I gave it a rest, started running again, & it's "ok". I ice both my knees after exercise, & heat them @ night. They usually hurt the day I run, & the day after, but by the next time they're ok. I see my visions of running the 1/2 in 130 minutes fading slowly. We'll see.

Last night I had some wicked pain in both knees while laying (lieing? you know what I mean) in bed. Sharp pain intermittently that I've never experienced before. Yaaayyy, new pains. Tomorrow I go to my massage thereapist/accupunturist guy. More pain :earseek: :rotfl: . Sweet!

Has anybody in the northeast finished building their ark yet? I'm finishing up tonight & loading the family in tomorrow. I've been forced on to a treadmill 2x b/c of this weather, hopefully we'll get some relief tomorrow.

Keep goin' everyone, we're almost there!!! I'll make it across that darn line if I have to crawl.

Jodi

You are not helping, Miss Jodi!!!! :earboy2: :wave: ;) Seriously--what has been your diagnosis and your modification to training?

Here's my...umm...story!

I have less than 2 weeks to make a decision---full or half. The knee thing is bugging me. At this point--I would love to hear that I either have weak muscles (that can be strengthened) or arthritis. Why arthritis? B/c it is a disease and not a freakin' broken or otherwised damaged knee. I have to tell you how distraught I am. Last year, it was the stupid flu...then I had a sacrum problem---so while I'm fixing that....and still running btw...a jack in the box rear ended me while I was at 45mph and he was about double that....and then I get achy knees....and then I get a cold...and then the knees are better...and then they are doing this.

So who ever I T'd off in any of my former lives....or any sins I have committed----I've learned my lesson...just knock it off buddy! How can you tease me with an awesome week and then debilitate me????

I feel like somebody upstairs is messing with my head!!! Higher purpose .... HAH!!! Did you see the medal, God??? Did you see it!!!!! Purpose--schmurpose.....a Disney medal!!! C'mon now...cut me some slack!!!

Okay--I feel better now. As you can see...my knee pain has affected my brain.

This is your knee....this is your brain on your knee. Any questions??? :rotfl2:

I'm going AMA and walk/running or run/walking or walking my mileage tomorrow. Water running in a pool for 2 hours....just doesn't seem so...scenic, KWIM?

The looney lady is getting of the DIS now. I promised you know who upstairs--and I'm sure I'm about to get busted with a lightening bolt any minute now. :badpc: :earboy2:


edited for a "what the heck moment".

I have my 3yo on my lap--and thus, my quads...complete, complete relief of knee symptoms...what is up with that???????

[plutosmyfav]

but as you all know, the Holiday season is crazzzzzy, and that LR has to be run. :rotfl2:


I made sure to color holiday days pink on my training schedule so I don't forget to celebrate them :rotfl: Christmas Eve will be a 4AM run I think. Like others have said, usually I'm fanatical about Christmas but this year I am too busy looking past it to WDW to think about it!

Jodi and Lisa-- :grouphug: :wizard: :sunny: :goodvibes and any other good vibe I can send along to help with the knees. I hope they clear up for you.

An Ark is a good idea :umbrella: I'VE HAD ENOUGH :umbrella:

Hoping for :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: soooooooon!

[MelanieC]

Hi everyone,

This weather really sucks and with DH being gone for 2 weeks and being so busy with work and getting the kids to this and to that and doing everything else DH helps me with I haven't done that well with training.

I'm feeling so disgusted I'm even having second thoughts of going to Disney for the marathon this year. I don't have my room or air booked yet and ever since my mom canceled on me I can't get excited to think about it. I'm hoping that once DH is back next week and I get out of this funk (and the rain stops and the sun comes back) that maybe I'll feel better about going.

Sorry to post such a negative post I'm just feeling gloomy!

[chimera]

Just booked BCV for the Minnie marathon :cool1:

Thanks for letting us know about it, Lynne! I tried to get the DVC registration form, but the marathon people don't seem to have one ready yet :guilty: Maybe someday we can be on the Perfect 12 list for Minnie. BTW, did anyone notice that Jeff Galloway is on that list for the marathon?

When I told DH about Minnie, he said 15K sounded like a long run. I told him that was only 9.3 miles! Never, ever thought I would be able to say ONLY 9.3 miles. :rotfl:

And I'm very proud of myself today. I actually went to the Y for cross-training. :goodvibes

Y'all can register me for the cookie eating contest. I'm glad it's not just me that's seriously got the munchies lately :cake: :mickeybar

:wizard: For sunny weather to those that need it :sunny: and magic healing :wizard: pixie dust to zap away injuries. We're almost there guys! :moped:

[eeyoresmom]

Melanie and Lisa,I know just how you feel.I too am feeling very discouraged right now :sad2: I'm supposed to be running the full(my first!) but I injured myself doing speedwork over 2 weeks ago and it doesn't seem to be getting any better with rest and ice,etc. If I can't do my LR this Monday I'll be behind in my training and not sure how I'll catch up! I'm also in the process of interviewing for the job of my dreams and the suspense is killing me(this has been going on for 2 weeks too.) I just got off the phone with the woman I'm intervewing with and she wants me to come in again on Wed or maybe Friday,so it looks like I won't know anything for at least another week.Sorry to ramble,just want to let you know I feel your pain! ...BTW,did I mention I have 4 kids :crazy2:

[Jodi]

WOW! Everyone seems to bumming out today. It'll be ok, I know it's because the :sunny: hasn't shined in about 9 days. Everyone's struggling w/ injuries, it sucks, I know.

Melanie - there are days I can't get excited about anything, it'll pass, it always does.

Eeyores mom - don't worry about falling behind. If you injured yourself doing speedwork, obviously you're a pretty accomplished athlete, right? You'll finish the marathon, it just may not be at the clip you wanted to be at. My knees are shot & my dream to run the 1/2 is almost gone, but at this point, it's ok too if I just walk it w/ my mom. I'll finish (and heck, we'll be at Disney World!!!) and have a margarita @ Mexico in EPCOT that night whether I finish in 2 hours or 31/2.

Lisa Loves Pooh - I've been diagnosed with MALS (middle-aged loser syndrome) :banana: Just watching that bananna move like that hurts my knees! Seriously, though, I just think I over-trained that one time back in August, rested for 10 days by not running, & just haven't fully gotten over it yet. I'll get more info tomorrow from my massage guru/therapist :worship: You should see a Dr., no?

My LR tomorrow is only 3 miles, I'm in between the weeks where LR are 5 & 6 miles in my MFM training program. I anyone in the same week I am for running a 1/2? Am I even on schedule? What the heck am I doing? I just strap on my garmin, stumble out the door & run (if you could call it that) until the thing on my wrist beeps to let me know that I'm done. Hopefully it's not too far a walk back home from wherever I am. My knees have gotten so bad that when I come to a decline I have to do this funky shuffle thing down the hill like Tim Conway in the old Carol Burnett shows. Anyone know what I'm talking about out there?

Ok, it's obvious I'm losing it, I'll check in with ya'll tomorrow.

Bye
:umbrella: Jodi :umbrella:

[NYcpa]

I did my 30 min of cross training today on the stationary bike. Tomorrow is supposed to be a 3 mile walk. Hopefully my lower back will feel better. It has hurt since doing the Race for the Cure at WDW last weekend. It seem I developed blisters on both little toes and the ball of my right foot while walking around on Friday. Because of them, I changed my gait to take the pressure off the blisters for the time at WDW. Now that the blisters no longer hurt, I can go back to walking normal.

I will probably use the treadmill for my 3 miles as it is supposed to continue raining tomorrow and maybe clear off by next Tuesday. I am also going to work so it may be dark when I walk.

Went to PT 2 days this week for my shoulder and neck. It will be another month if not longer before I can begin strengthening the shoulder. The surgeon I wanted to do the surgery (but she was on leave) said it could take anywhere from 4 - 6 months before the pain finally goes away and up to a year before I have the strength back. The surgeon that did my shoulder is the same one she had do the carpel tunnel surgery on both her hands. Lynne said she must have felt he was the best since her hands are her livelihood. I won't be doing much upper body strengthening before the half.

Everyone, good luck on your LR's tomorrow.

[princessmomma]

Had a busy week this week! Managed a 12 mile long run this morning. Awk, it was a tough go! Note to self....do not do 45 minutes on the stairclimber for cross-training the day before a long run. I usually just do resistance training, but with Wednesday a rest day, I was anxious to get doing something. DO NOT DO STAIRCLIMBER!!

All this talk about eating snacks, my problem snacks are the salty ones...chips, pretzels, etc. I also crave Bloody Mary's!

eyeoresmom :wizard: for that injury. I hope you feel better.

MelanieC I know you will get out of that "funk" you are in!! All the best to you. :flower:

Christa, good job on your 11 miles today. I couldn't even think about swimming after my LR, I did get to watch DS8 play soccer tonight. I like :cheer2: being a soccer mom!

Bree, glad you are feeling better. Do you or Christa know anything about the half- marathon in Charlotte on November 19th? Is it pretty hilly? Is it well run? I am thinking about trying to better my time so I am in a higher corral. Right now I have a 2:14 half time that I summitted, but I would like to get under 2:10, if 2:10 is the cutoff for the "B corral".

Colleen

[TiffJ]

O.k. everyone-out of the funk. You didnt let me quit so I'm not going to let you quit. If I can get my big butt across that finish line anyone can! We've come this far, no looking back now!!!!!!

I've had trouble focusing this week on my training(took 1 extra off day) because the boys are home on fall break. If I dont exercise in the a.m. it's hard for me to get it done.

Lisa-your story was hilarious!

Minnie-that's right, just get those steps in

Mel-So cool you've already signed up for the Minnie. I'm hoping to be there. I'll have to wait & see how things go. I was the same way when I told DH about it & that it was "only" 9 miles. No biggie right :bitelip:

Jodi-My LR this weekend is supposed to be 3 miles, but since I have time I think I'm going to repeat the 5 miler. I'm coming from behind athletically speaking & want to catch up.

Colleen- 5 min on the stairclimber has me walking bow legged the next day

Good luck to everyone in getting healthy, injury free & putting in those all important steps!

[TiffJ]

OH, and I told my mom that I had our next 2 events lined up so we dont start slacking after January(she's doing the 1/2 with me) When I mentioned the Minnie she was o.k. with that but when I told her about the Tri she said "what do you think I am, I'm an old lady remember!" She's never been a good swimmer so I think it's definately out.

I'm considering it but I have a thing about lake water. It really grosses me out. Not to mention that swimming 400 yds would probably kill me. Do they realize how hot it is there in May?

[TEK224]

Tiff- I know what you mean about the lake water. Gross! :eek:
I did the 1/2 ironman triathlon in 2004. We had to swim in the lake off FW.
Green, with seaweed (or kelp or whatever!) It was freaking me out.
I want to try another tri, though. Maybe the shorter one in May would be better since I'm just starting out. (The 1/2 IM was my first ever tri and unfortunately I got leg cramps about 25 miles into the bike and ended up not finishing :sad1:

Terri

[TEK224]

I just the website to get info on the MinnieMarathon. Found out I won't be able to go. I work a ten-mile race and it's that same weekend :sad2:

The Danskin tri is the following weekend, but I don't know if I want to be away on Mother's Day.

Thought about the DL 1/2 next Sept. and then saw the WDW triathlon is also in Sept. Too many choices!

Terri

[eeyoresmom]

Hi everyone.Thanks to all for the encouragement.Im suppossed to do a LR of 10 on Monday( This is actually backtracking for me because I was 3 weeks ahead in training),but this quad injury is persisting. I'm going to try 3 on the treadmill today and see how it goes.Wish me luck and happy training to all of you :sunny:

[plutosmyfav]

OK I've had enough :umbrella: :umbrella: :umbrella:

I'm having Garmin Withdrawal :crazy2: two LRS without Gramin now!

I ran through pouring rain that tapered to heavy rain near the end of my LR.

I think the IC is part Gremlin. Once she got soaked she kicked my butt. Hal called for a 10 miler today, I already upped it to 12, then mid run the IC said, "well we're already drenched so might as well make it worth it". I finally waddled back to my car after 16 miles, drenched to the bone.

I also decided bike path traffic is a pretty good indicator of one's level of sanity. There was none. I finally saw 4 or 5 people by mile 12. There was a point where the adorable little babbling brook had swelled to a monster river, engulfing the bp which I had to run through. Uphill it was like running with 20lb weights strapped to my legs. Each footfall brought water up to my waist! I risked my mp3 player this time (put it in a plastic bag) but the chorus in my head drowned out the music. It went something like this: "I'm insane, I'm insane, I'm insane".

My pace for the first 12 miles was dead on 10:00, I incorporated some walk intervals in the last 4 miles brining my overall pace to 10:26.

Please, please, please NO MORE LRs in the RAIN!!!!!!!!

Sunny

[plutosmyfav]

I've been diagnosed with MALS (middle-aged loser syndrome) :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Hey I've got that, too! Mine has different symptoms though :rotfl:

[chimera]

I also decided bike path traffic is a pretty good indicator of one's level of sanity. There was none. I finally saw 4 or 5 people by mile 12. There was a point where the adorable little babbling brook had swelled to a monster river, engulfing the bp which I had to run through. Uphill it was like running with 20lb weights strapped to my legs. Each footfall brought water up to my waist! Sunny

Ok, so you ran through waist-deep water on a bike path? Sounds like a triathlon to me :rotfl:

Great pace, Sunny! :banana:

[gatorphipps]

Do you or Christa know anything about the half- marathon in Charlotte on November 19th? Is it pretty hilly? Is it well run? I am thinking about trying to better my time so I am in a higher corral. Right now I have a 2:14 half time that I summitted, but I would like to get under 2:10, if 2:10 is the cutoff for the "B corral".
Colleen - I did this 1/2 last year to get into a higher corral. Like everything in Charlotte, it is hilly. I don't know if they are using the same course though. Last year, we ran down Morehead, up Providence and it was alot of up hill. I will not do it this year b/c the Charlotte Marathon is 2 or 3 weeks after that and I am tapering for that. DH is running it and I will be his scream team with DDs. :goodvibes It is a fun race and well run (except for the lack of port-a-jons :rotfl: )! Last year, it was the Outback 1/2. This year it is the Down YMCA 1/2. So not Outback @ the end.:guilty: If they are doing the corrals the same this year, 2:14 should put you in "B". But I don't know if they are or not. :confused3
Christa

[Tiger Lily 03]

Hi everyone. I've read in a few posts thet we should be receiving "a packet" :confused3 in a few weeks.What is this? TIAThis will be a sheet of paper you are required to bring with you that you will sign as the release form. The other part is a brochure with some info. The other stuff is picked up at the expo. Hope your aches settle down and all is going to get better. Take it as easy as you must to keep putting steps in. Backtracking is not always a bad thing. Slower if you must is not always a bad thing either.
Sending :wizard: PD your way along with prayers that the job comes through.

Lisa, hope your "falling apart" syndrome stops soon. Is your dismay in wondering if you can complete the full at all or just in a particular timeframe? I hope it all settles for you so you can get that Mickey.

Nancy, great to hear from you. That you are making those steps while recovering from the surgery is an inspiration to me for sure! You are a hero.

Jodi, thanks to you for yor burst of shunshine! :sunny: :grouphug: It seems like we needed that for sure. I appreciate all that you said. You get the cheerleader award this week!
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:
Mel, I am jealous that you have registered for the Minnie. I would really like to afford to be there.

TiffJ, you are such a gem to get your Mom involved. I am liking that she thinks she is old. She is doing it! It sure makes me feel that I will have company then. It is a shorter tri as I am reading from Terri's post. Perhaps that might encourage your Mom. Thanks to you too for boosting us up. You get the cheerleader award this week too!
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Terri, what about a Mother-family trip on Mother's Day weekend to do that tri? I was there this year on a girls get away long weekend and we all had a wonderful time. I left my Mom back home and we celebrated before I left. It was ok.
:earsgirl:
Sunny, all I can say is amazing. I guess your rest day managed you well. I enjoyed our run last week in the rain. It was not slippery where we were as it is compressed fine gravel path. It was not cold, just rainy. No bikes either.

I am waiting on DS to arise from the sleep of the young-who-go-out-and-stay-out-late because he said he would work the trek with me today. So that will be that I am going to do sr today and lr tomorrow. Hey! It almost sounds like I might be working on a Goofy or something.
:earseek:

[princessmomma]

If they are doing the corrals the same this year, 2:14 should put you in "B". But I don't know if they are or not. :confused3
Christa

Thanks Christa for the info. I was thinking about running it so I could try and get in corral B for Disney. I think right now I will be in corral C with my existing 2:14 time. DH thinks I should be fine in corral C, "don't want to start off too fast...blah, blah, blah" I need to listen to him, but ....

Colleen

[aladdinsgirl]

Hello everyone!! I got up early this morning and did my lr of 4 miles. I ran without my mp3 player because I was running before the sun was completely up. I didn't want to look distracted and therefore an easy target, I ran the 4 miles in my neighborhood, but you can never be too careful. Anyway, it was really nice running without my mp3 player, I pretty much just let my mind wonder, not that I want to run everytime without one, but it was nice today. All I kept thinking "one week from today I'll be sitting on the plane headed to WDW", that really got me through!! ::MickeyMo All in all it was a good run, I did 4 miles in 45:57; my first mile was 11:16 (good), my second was 11:24 (okay), my third was 12:20 (bad, bad), and my fourth was 11:10 (good)--overall I was pretty pleased.

I would love to run the Minnie marathon, but I don't think I can. The Flying Pig marathon (in Cincinnati) is Sunday, May 8th, I've been planning on running the half and looking forward to it because it's my hometown. Plus Stephen was planning on running it too.

Lily--you'll have more company with my Mom, she's walk/running the half. I love it when she asks how I'm doing and then says, "well, I do have 30 years on you." I tell her 57 isn't old!! :earboy2:

Sunny--I can't believe you ran 16 miles this morning!! I agree with you, you are :crazy: :teeth:

Bree--your pregnancy dilemma made me laugh because Stephen and I are going through the same thing, but the roles are reversed. Stephen keeps saying, just give me one more year! We've been married almost 5 (our anniversary is next Friday), what more does he want?? :confused3 :)

Well, I better go, I have a very psycho 40 lb puppy crawling all over me, I think I'm going to take him for a walk and try to burn some of his energy. Good luck on your lr's everyone!!

Krista princess:

[plutosmyfav]

Ok, so you ran through waist-deep water on a bike path? Sounds like a triathlon to me :rotfl:

Great pace, Sunny! :banana:

Woah! Let me explain better!!!! The water was moving rapidly in downhill but was only about 4 inches deep. As I stepped in it, the jets reached upto my waist!!!! If the water was waist deep on the bike path we'd be in big trouble around here!!!!

[chimera]

Woah! Let me explain better!!!! The water was moving rapidly in downhill but was only about 4 inches deep. As I stepped in it, the jets reached upto my waist!!!! If the water was waist deep on the bike path we'd be in big trouble around here!!!!


Bummer...that totally changes the whole mental picture ;) Still a fabulous pace for the conditions you were in. Feel free to send some of that rain down here. The weatherman was just excited that we were going to be below 70 this morning for the first time since May :sunny:

Seven miles in the books for me. I'm startin' to think I'm actually going to beat the sweeper...my pace was 14:39 today :bounce: :bounce:

[TXBelle]

Mel- I am so jealous that you got in 7 miles. I just couldn't get out of bed this morning. The thought of 7 miles makes me feel :crazy: . I am trying to motivate myself to do 7 tomorrow, but I just don't want to. It seems like such a long way.

To everyone in the Northeast, here's some :wizard: to help keep the :umbrella: away!

[xterratri]

Sounds like it must be raining harder down in MA than it is up here in ME. My 10 miles today varied from drizzle to actual rain but no downpour. I am however getting rather tired of the 20 mph winds. The 10 today felt more comfortable than the 10 I did 2 weeks before the half so running that plus the half must have done some good. Maybe this thing will go better after all.

Corral issues- I emailed Disney sports becuase I have my own championchip so I figured I should give them the number off it and asked about the corral/told them about my new half time. Their reply was: "You idiot, you gave us your chip number when you registered" well not really but apparently I had, and yes, my 2:09 time will put me in the 4-4:30 corral where I want to be. So Colleen, maybe email them and ask what corral you will be in before making the decision about the Charlotte half unless you want to run it for training anyway.

So school- we've finished the nervous system and the psych systems so far and just started musculoskeletal. My major concerns this year are twofold: passing the boards and deciding what I want to do for residency. I did an OR preceptorship with an ortho doc about a month ago and got really psyched about doing ortho again but was still considering emergency medicine. So last night I go hang out at the ER til after midnight and now I'm seriously considering EM. Other than the fact that ortho is fun and challenging, EM wins in every other category from residency length to lifestyle issues such as hours worked. Oh yeah, EM can be fun and challenging too. So any career counseling anyone???

Good luck training everyone.

[princessmomma]

Seven miles in the books for me. I'm startin' to think I'm actually going to beat the sweeper...my pace was 14:39 today :bounce: :bounce:

Awesome Mel!! :banana: :banana: Wow, 7 miles and great pace, it are doing great!!

Heather, you can do those 7 tomorrow, just tell yourself it is alright to slow right down when you need, LR/LW are suppose to be slower, just get the steps in. You can always pick up the pace on another training day. :Pinkbounc

xterratri, I think I will call them, I think I will be in the 4:30- 5:00 corral, but hoping to finish under 4:30. DH says not to be stressed about it, "lots of miles to make it up...blah, blah..." (Really he does give me great advice, but we train so differently.)

Colleen

[TammyNC]

I haven't been on much in the past couple of weeks but have tried to keep up on reading everyone's post. They all keep me so motivated. I am still on plan with the 1/2 MFM training and I am so excited because last year at this time I was "thinking" that I should be preparing for the 1/2 and didn't. I was able to make it to the end last time but really paid for it in soreness, etc. My plan is to finish in better time and to not feel as rough as I did for days afterward.

Keep up the great work everyone. For those that are in the dumps, pull yourself out and you know that you will fill better once you get back onto your schedule.

For the ones that are dealing with injuries, please take care of yourself.

[keenercam]

Did my 3 mile LW today -- 44:47 (14:56 pace). Looking forward to trying to maintain that pace or improve it each week on the LWs. I may have to get one of those headlamps, though, because it is VERY dark at 6 a.m. (the star-filled sky was absolutely breathtaking!) and it is only going to get darker!

[keenercam]

Seven miles in the books for me. I'm startin' to think I'm actually going to beat the sweeper...my pace was 14:39 today :bounce: :bounce:

Mel -- Very psyched for you!!!! :cool1: :goodvibes: :hug: You sustained that for 7 miles? You really are one of the big :dog: :pug: :dog2:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Lisa Loves Pooh - I've been diagnosed with MALS (middle-aged loser syndrome) :banana: Just watching that bananna move like that hurts my knees! Seriously, though, I just think I over-trained that one time back in August, rested for 10 days by not running, & just haven't fully gotten over it yet. I'll get more info tomorrow from my massage guru/therapist :worship: You should see a Dr., no?


Yes--we are in process...so doctor on Tuesday, Chiropractor on Thursday, and had MRI on Monday....back to regular doc on Tuesday and hope to be passed over to the physical therapists.

I think I have weak quads....or at least something about my quads that causes a knee issue...I wore an "ace bandage-type" knee brace on the left knee and my cho-plat (looks like a double knee strap for above and below the knee) on my right knee. The sensation---it almost feels like my kneecap cannot be pulled up properly when walking (like it is going to slide down and fall off...though not that graphic of a feeling). Just a wild in the ballpark guess. Anyway--the gadgets today minimized or eliminated that phenomenon.

Now riddle me this--riddle me that...today was a not difficult day for me. Got an ache, adjusted the strap and other than that was F-I-N-E. Now without the braces I'd be up the creek...but I just do not get it. I did a full 10 miles today (with my hubby :love: :love: ), 3:2 R/W interval....and used him to make sure my walking pace was well below race pace.

Now--not only is my distance--2 miles longer than last saturday....I had an additional 1 minute interval of walking....so walking more than twice as much as last week. This is per the MTM training book and what was on plan for today.

I SHAVED 5 seconds off per minute. :cheer2:

Okay--now what on the crazy earth is up with that freaky time??????? 12:55 per minute with TWO MINUTE walk breaks???

I just do not get it at all....but I will take it.....all the way to the finish line!!!! :cool1:

I actually think the culprit---my STUPID treadmill. I don't know why--but my problems occur just on that thing...and not on the road. And since I don't run well with the jogging stroller and since I still have knee issues...unless told otherwise, I will be spending during the week splitting workouts between deep-water running and practicing my speed walking with the stroller and getting the girls out.

Call me the cross-training diva as I will be doing more of that than actual running...but hey--you gotta do what you gotta do, right???

I may just keep up with the full--but still have a week and a half to make a decision before I sign on the dotted line with my recommitment paperwork. Though it was very cool to run with hubby.

I have given him permission to be drill sergeant and to get on the phone and tell me to move my ****---if I'm not keeping up! I may just keep him on the phone from mile 14 to the Animal Kingdom :rotfl2: . Luckily we have free phone to phone. Get him back on for when I hit the wall. I think this sounds like a plan! I can have him on speaker phone and everything. :teeth:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

nyCPA :wizard: for a speedy recovery! Are you still training for Disney with all this?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Seven miles in the books for me. I'm startin' to think I'm actually going to beat the sweeper...my pace was 14:39 today :bounce: :bounce:

I second Keenercam!!!

Woof Woof Lady--you're in the club now!!!

Who let Chimera out....woof woof woof woof!

Who let Chimera out....woof woof woof woof!!!

You go girl!!!

[NYcpa]

Tried doing my 3 mile LW today outdoors as it finally quit raining for a while. Only managed 1.2 miles and 22 min before my shin hurt so bad I decided to give up. Will train on the arc-trainer at the gym next week. Probably should have stuck with my original thought of doing the 3 miles on the treadmill. At least that isn't canted.

I will continue training and get the steps in. I know I can do the distance, it is a matter of getting the speed built up. I need Lynne around to pace me even though my legs cramp trying to keep up with her.

[plutosmyfav]

Helen,

Your the one that got me hooked on Scooter :rotfl2: I just resurrected the old music thread for a new poster looking for music and I searched through to see who it was that mentioned Scooter. It was you!

Well I went from a couple of songs to a solid hour of Scooter which I listen to on every long run. I am totally addicted to the nuts. My favorite was "No Pain No Gain" which I sometimes replayed 3-4 times in a row :crazy: But now I am so hooked on Habanera it isn't even funny! Nessaja, Weekend and Maria are all tied, and of course no workout is complete without "Move Your @ss"! Discovering Scooter lead me to O-zone which is great, too.

So I guess I owe you thanks (or should I curse you :rotfl2: ;) )

Any more great "never heard of in the USA" bands you'd like to share????

Sunny

[chimera]

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