Which is better - New Poseidon's Fury or Original

[johare]

If you've seen both, which version of Poseidon's Fury to you prefer. The original with the Keeper, Poseidon as the villian and the teleportation effect at the end or the new version with the archaeologist as the guide, Poseidon as the hero and a different effect with the final room?

[MrNonacho]

Even though I think that the finale of the old show was better, I have to say the new show is much better overall.

Now, can we move on from this topic? It's just a theme park attraction! Its purpose is to provide entertainment, not be a subject of heated debate.

[MIB999999]

Originally posted by MrNonacho
Even though I think that the finale of the old show was better, I have to say the new show is much better overall.

Now, can we move on from this topic? It's just a theme park attraction! Its purpose is to provide entertainment, not be a subject of heated debate.

one thing i have discovered from this DISBOARD is that my view of IOA since i live in NW orlando is different than someone who lives in Ft. Myers, and the Ft. Myers view is different from some one in New Hampshire, and different than someone from Austria and so on.

All theme park enjoyment is local, that is person by person. I appreciate Mr Goddard entering into the fray and i absolutely love the T2-3D, but i think the preceived good show concept destroyed some of the really good points of the old show that deserve to be kept. :p

[MrNonacho]

MIB999999: I'm originally from Ft. Myers.. Just how much do you know about me!?!? :)

[MIB999999]

you would be surprised what i can know with that flashy thing;)

[Tony M]

I have been to Ft.Myers, think I went to New Hampshire when I was a kid, could find NW orlando on a Map, and would like to go to Austria, etc. but I'll withhold final judgement on the credibility
of "Gary Goddard, Chairman of Landmark" until all of my correspondence to Landmark Entertainment Group through their channels are responded to.
Funny how Coiley the SpringSprite disappears and Mr.Goddard coincidentally finds the DIS site
HAVE FUN

[MIB999999]

Tony M i bet you are an X-File and First Wave fan?????

[JessicaR]

Tony...You may want to read Coiley the SpringSprite 's previous posts. I seriously doubt Mr. Goddard was hired on as a scareactor for Halloween season. That is of course if you were making an intimation that they are one in the same. As for his validating his credibility to you...good luck with that.:)

As for this poll...its a goof. We all know anyone can create many user names and vote accordingly thus making it biased.

[MIB999999]

Hey JessicaR sounds like all the laundry made you cynical:jester:

[MrNonacho]

It's not paranoia when they're really out to get you..

[JessicaR]

MIB's........I'm a hopeful cynic.:p

[MIB999999]

just hoping to get the laundry done!!!!:jester:

[CoileyTheSpringSprite]

I haven't gone anywhere. If you look at the Poseidon thread, I've been posting regularly.

Let me tell you a little about myself: I'm a Disney premium annual passholder, a Universal two-park Annual holder, and currently an employee, as mentioned previously, to work as a scare-actor for HHN XI. I'm currently a freshman at UCF.

I'm just a theme park fan- nothing more, nothing less. And I certainly don't make a habit of impersonating others.

I have, however, met Mr. Goddard before as we have a mutual friend. I can also tell you that by way of that mutual friend, I have been told that it is most definately Gary Goddard who has been posting on this board.
Of course, there's no reason for anyone to believe me, but- hey, whatever.

Come on, people- just because designers rarely speak out on public forums, does not preclude the possibility of it happening. Just as people in the know from Universal post here regularly- no one questions the validity of Earl on this board. Remember that Mr. Goddard is about as high up as they come in a company and therefore has no need to hide his real identity as others do on this board.

[Darkennon]

Originally posted by johare
If you've seen both, which version of Poseidon's Fury to you prefer. The original with the Keeper, Poseidon as the villian and the teleportation effect at the end or the new version with the archaeologist as the guide, Poseidon as the hero and a different effect with the final room?

What are you TALKING about?

The same effect is STILL there. How can you slander the show saying that a good effect is gone, when it is still there, AND improved upon two-fold?

Geez.

C

[MIB999999]

Originally posted by Darkennon


What are you TALKING about?

The same effect is STILL there. How can you slander the show saying that a good effect is gone, when it is still there, AND improved upon two-fold?

Geez.

C

did you go thru the attraction with your eyes closed!!!!

The original show had a pre-vortex room and a post-vortex room. at the end of the show it appeared that i was back in the pre-vortex room.

the new show at the end you merely go from the post-vortex room to the "theater area" the back to the post vortex-room.
According to the new story the post-vortex room is deeper in the temple, not closer to escape. So the question of the storyline is WHY CAN I NOW ESCAPE BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST CAME IN TO THIS ROOM THERE WAS NONE?

Improved like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Glad you like the new show, but stay away from detail oriented tasks. :p

[turbodrop]

Having seen both shows numerous times, it is without any doubt by anyone with any taste that the new show is FAR superior to the old show.

It's even questionable to call the old Poseidon a "Show". The characters wern't established at all, the exposition made NO SENSE and it was BORING.

Those who the old show remember the "moments" that they particularly enjoyed, but who can honestly say they ENJOYED the first two, uneventful rooms.

I have yet to hear a good arguement about what people LIKED about the old show.

Anyone with a taste for theatre or art can appreciate having this new show in a theme park, and is even more thankful that no one will ever see that OLD version again.

We mortals are the key, HUH?

[johare]

Having seen both shows numerous times, it is without any doubt by anyone with any taste that the old show is FAR superior to the new show.

It's even questionable to call the new Poseidon a "Show". The characters aren't established at all, the exposition makes NO SENSE and it is BORING.

Those who enjoy the new show like a couple of the special effects, but who can honestly say they enjoy the first two, uneventful rooms...unless of course you like having a flashlight shined in your face or are impressed by a black light flashlight or are entertained by a no talent screaming fool.

I have yet to hear a good arguement about what people LIKE about the new show.

Anyone with a taste for theatre or art can appreciate having had the opportunity to see the old show and will be very disappointed that we are all stuck with the NEW uninspired version for the near future.

[turbodrop]

It's honeslty sick that 6 people prefered the old show.
Still- more- wisers- prefer the new show.

So, someone who liked the old show, i'm very interested in your logic- please tell me- step by step, room by room, what exactly it is that you ENJOYED about the old show.

Did an old man crawling out of the wall excite you?

Did the leaf pattern gobos overwelm your senses?

Because that's about how eventful the first room was.

What about the second room?

Who can honestly say they enjoyed those cheesy laser projections on the door?

Who can honestly say that anything the Oracle said made perfect sense?

How could you ENJOY being subjected to 4-5 minutes of NONSENSE whereas now it is exciting.

And who can say that Jeremy Irons DESERVED $100,000 to voice the character when they couldn't even advertise or say it was him?

I know what it was, some of you LOVED the laser projections in the final battle. Yes, it was the moment when the green Zeus shot LASERS FROM HIS EYES that won your hearts over. Or was it where Poseidon turned into all the little Poseidons?

For what I understand the new show was done for 1/27 of what the first show cost, and for that it really is a spectacular feat.

[johare]

It's honestly sick that 10 people prefer the new show.
Probably all these first time posters creating new id's to skew the vote.

So, someone who likes the new show, i'm not really interested in your lack of logic- please tell me- step by step, room by room, what exactly it is that you enjoy about the new show.

Does a screaming idiot excite you?

Does a flashlight shinning in your eyes overwelm your senses?

Does a cheap black light effect leave your jaw dropping in awe?

Because that's about how eventful the first room was.

What about the second room?

Who can honestly say they enjoy seeing a bad actress displayed on a 15 inch screen passed off as an oracle?

Who can honestly say that anything the Oracle said made any sense?

Who can honestly say they enjoy seeing that screaming fool pick up that fake looking trident while trying to act scared?

How could you ENJOY being subjected to 4-5 minutes of NONSENSE whereas before this part of the show added drama, suspense and anticipation as to what was coming next.

I know what it was...some of you love that pathetic Star Wars clone that now plays the villian. No, I know...all of you who were so excited to have the flashlight shined in your eyes must go wild with excitement when the BIG flash of light goes off in the final room!

For what I understand the new show was done for 1/27 of what the first show cost which is just about exactly what it's worth when compared to the original.

[Darkennon]

Originally posted by johare
Probably all these first time posters creating new id's to skew the vote.

You know what? Johare, you're just a moron! First of all, if your logical arguement is simply rewording EVERYTHING Taylor says to you, that's hardly a "one-up" in my opinion.

Besides that - Did you even READ what you reworded? People HAVE given exact, specific reasons why the new show is a superior product. People HAVE given reasons why the old show is not. *YOU* have thus far, provided ZERO to support YOUR bogus ideas.

The only one who has done nothing but whine and complain in this thread is YOU. You need to get over it. The show was *not* designed for you. This show was designed for the public at large, who *like the show more than the original.* So - your theoriest have failed.

What is your problem with this situation? Why do you feel that you are the sentinel that must destroy this show? Why are *you* so defensive? Gary has a right to be - it's his show. You have no money, effort or idea behind this show, yet you haven't given up yet!

In closing, I give a hearty "Shut up!" in your direction. Enough is enough- really! Either support your ideas with solid reasons or continue to get ripped apart by myself, Gary, Taylor, and Christian, amongst others.

By the way, how old are you? 15? 16?

-C

[johare]

You know what? Johare, you're just a moron! First of all, if your logical arguement is simply rewording EVERYTHING Taylor says to you, that's hardly a "one-up" in my opinion. Oh ouch...what an insult from someone with 2 whole postings to their credit.

Besides that - Did you even READ what you reworded? People HAVE given exact, specific reasons why the new show is a superior product Yes, did you read what I reworded? I gave reasons why I feel the old show is better. If you are having difficulty with that go ask your parents to read and explain the posting to you.

What is your problem with this situation? Why do you feel that you are the sentinel that must destroy this show? Why are *you* so defensive? Gary has a right to be - it's his show. You have no money, effort or idea behind this show, yet you haven't given up yet! I buy 4 annual passes to Universal every year and spend a lot of money at the parks year round. I feel that I have every right to voice my opinion when I feel the parks have WASTED their money on rehabing something which didn't need it to begin with, especially when the money could have been put to far better use.

In closing, I give a hearty "Shut up!" in your direction. Enough is enough- really! Either support your ideas with solid reasons or continue to get ripped apart by myself, Gary, Taylor, and Christian, amongst others. You all have done nothing to rip me apart. All you've succeeded in doing is to make yourselves look like immature little teenagers. You little boys really need to grow up a bit.
By the way, how old are you? 15? 16? 38.

[Gary Goddard]

At this point Johare, why don't you reveal who you are instead of hiding behind your little fake ID? It is all too easy to cast aspersions on others when you don't have to stand up and actually account for your childish actions. The cut and paste jobs of late - wherein you use other people's comments with slight revisions - is akin to a child's version of repeating everyting someone else says so as to block out anything being said. Your posts are becoming extremely childish and seem to become rantings. What is the point? Your ratings box seems to prove, provided no one goes in now and fills it with fake votes, that you are in the minority. And thats okay. At least, if you are indeed 38 years old, try to make intelligent arguments for your case, instead of creating these mindless cut and paste responses that insult everyone's intelligence.

This started as a discussion about a redo of an existing attraction at Universal. I think you have made whatever points you had wanted to. Many people disagree with you. As do the ratings, which continue to go up, favoring the change. Sorry to have disappointed you.

[johare]

Hey Gary, why don't you go take some time and actually read some of the posts in this thread. I had not said a thing for days and than this ignorant kid comes along and starts making comments like:

"It's honestly sick that 6 people prefered the old show."

or

"it is without any doubt by anyone with any taste that the new show is FAR superior to the old show."

or

"It's even questionable to call the old Poseidon a "Show". "

and then we get to another ignorant poster who's limited intelligence only allows him to resort to calling me a 'moron'.

...and you have the nerve to call my posts childish?

As for the ratings here, remove the fake votes of the people who only created id's to argue this point (ie, YOU, Coily, Darkeneon, turbodrop and the rest of the peanut gallery) and you'll see that the vote would be quite close.

Finally, regarding your comment " At this point Johare, why don't you reveal who you are instead of hiding behind your little fake ID?". Unlike yours, mine is NOT a fake ID. I've used it for a few years and made hundreds of posts. You are the one who should be revealing your real identity instead of hiding behind the name of someone else. I'm not the one created half a dozen fake user id's in order to commandeer a thread and try to make a mediocre attraction rehab look better than it really is. The new Poseidon's is NOT an improvement over the old one. You and your school pals can create all the fake user id's you want for posting here and it won't change that simple fact so why don't you just quit wasting your time here.

[Gary Goddard]

I am Gary Goddard. I designed that attraction and stand behind it.

Go on all you want with your rants. You sound more and more like a lunatic. This is NOT a fake name. It's me. Your name is as artificial as your comments which show a complete and utter lack of understanding anything having to do with theatre, attractions, design or entertainment.

You hide behind your Screen Name because you are a coward.

[WebmasterBarry]

I am stepping in now and reminding everyone to remember the board rules. Please be courteous and respectful to everyone else. This thread is beginning to turn the other way. Please read the board rules on the main DIS page if you are unfamiliar with them.

Thank you.

[johare]

I am Gary Goddard. I designed that attraction and stand behind it. Sure you are. You act just like I would expect the founder and chairman of a major corporation to act. How could you possibly be anyone else.

Go on all you want with your rants. You sound more and more like a lunatic. This is NOT a fake name. It's meBack to the name calling. Do your parents know your using their PC to insult people?

Your name is as artificial as your comments which show a complete and utter lack of understanding anything having to do with theatre, attractions, design or entertainment. Unlike yours, my name is not artificial at all and neither is any of the information in my profile. Your profile on the other hand is empty with the exception of a link to the landmarkusa site. As for your other comments, there are at least two people I know of who have an utter lack of understanding of theatre, attractions, design and entertainment and that's you...and the real Gary Goddard if he did indeed have hand-on involvement in the new Poseidon's Fury.

You hide behind your Screen Name because you are a coward.Let see...I'm a lunatic, a coward and have no understanding of theme park attractions or entertainment? Who's the one ranting and acting immature here?

[MrNonacho]

In the other Poseidon thread johare stated that he tried to get in touch with Gary via Landmark. It seems that all it would take to straighten out this "identity crisis" is one simple email or a phone call to johare from Mr. Goddard. From what I've read here and Usenet I believe that he is the real deal, but it shouldn't be too hard to put the issue to rest.

[WebmasterBarry]

This is everyone's last warning. If future posts to this thread or disrespectful to others, it will be locked. This is the last time I am saying this.

Thank you.

[MIB999999]

as stated in another thread i, like johare, prefered the old show.

i do not think the new show has any more action or excitement in the first room than the old show.

the second room in the new show has a running and ranting and raving taylor and has more accessories to look at but these do not contribute to a more exciting second room experience.

The vortex is the vortex. the first show used this a point of reference and a gotcha effect. the second show has done away with the point of reference aspect since you are not put back in the pre-vortex room.

The new show needs more explaination by taylor for you have the understanding that Gary Goddard has explained in this thread and the other thread. I did not get from Taylor the info that was posted by Gary Goddard. The lines are somewhat away from taylor and the bull horn and head mike do not always transmit well. If any one in the line is talking, you can forget about hearing what taylor says, thus the premise for what follows does not exist for all the attendees.

Louder, clearer, better listening conditions might make a big difference. with the old show you just gently went with the flow up to the finale'. someone with a hearing problem could get the old show. That is not the case for full enjoyment of the new show. :p