View Full Version : Sick and tired of 2000 ribbon dancer pins on lanyards check this out.
Swamp_Fox
09-26-2005, 12:37 AM
So you go to the parks looking for that diamond in the rough pin :banana: on some CM's lanyard and all you find are those dang blasted 2000 ribbon dancer pins :scared:. Well my friends you're in luck, should I say you're not in luck check out the next wave of lanyard choking pins :eek: :headache: :sad2:
Ebay Auction #6564973721
Swamp_Fox
AZ JazzyJ
09-26-2005, 01:11 AM
I never realized that lanyards were a choking hazard. I kind of get the impression that you don't think this is such a Kodak moment. While it may be frustrating to see so many of the same pin everywhere, I think much of the blame for this has to fall on the shoulders of Disney. If they would attempt to come out with a minimal priced set of pins that family's could afford the buying public would not be inclined to look for these batches of the same pin. But with the price of common rack pins now between 6 and 8 dollars it is almost prohibitive for anyone to get into this hobby to trade with cast members. Instead of constantly trying to one-up themselves by coming out with spinning, light-up, sparkling bejeweled pins that are as large as coasters; Disney should come out with smaller simpler pins at the $3 price point that can be traded all around the parks. The sets that they came up with for the Disney Store were prime examples. Many of those could be found for $4 new or $2 on clearance. And see how many different pins there were on the lanyards then. In fact, many times I actually traded for the Disney Store pins because they were new and different. I realize that the collectors may not be interested in these so-called "cheap pins" and if not they are free to pass them by. But for those who love to trade with cast members or other guests in a non-pressure lanyard situation this may be just the ticket.
Jeff
meandtheguys2
09-26-2005, 11:14 AM
Would anyone ever trade for a Kodak pin, though? Trader, pro, or novice. I just don't see it happening.
NJBlackBerry
09-26-2005, 12:27 PM
I was at HPCOE and traded with Scoop Sanderson for a Mystery Pin. Got a Kodak pin.
Disney's objective is to make money, not to make discount priced pins for families.
If someone wants to buy 500 pins that will be very difficult to trade, that is their choice.
doombuggy
09-26-2005, 02:36 PM
Here's a different point of view...
I have both styles of the 2000 pin that swampfox discribes. We CMs don't particulary care for them either. :) If we get rid of it (no one wants it for a trade), then we just end up with another one. It's a never ending cycle.
We see those pins that were made in Spain ALL the time. Some are not so bad - and some people have actually traded me for them (off my cast lanyard).
I always have a tough time keeping the cast pins on my lanyard. Saturday, the pin I put on there lasted maybe an hour. Sunday, it lasted 8 minutes. I so wanted to give that Tinkerbell pin to a little girl. :sad1:
Trading is fun, and it has turned into a booming business. I agree with the posteer who commented on TDS pins. They are nice quality, and I do have at least one currently on my cast lanyard (and plenty in my pin bags at home). :)
AZ JazzyJ
09-26-2005, 04:14 PM
I was at HPCOE
We're all adults here, you don't have to spell it.
NJBlackBerry
09-26-2005, 04:20 PM
Please explain what I did wrong?????
AZ JazzyJ
09-26-2005, 04:46 PM
Please explain what I did wrong?????
Sorry, I think you may have mis-intrepreted my comment. I am not familiar with the acronym HPCOA. All I could come up with was Happy People Can't Open Epcot but that's probably not what you meant. I guess it could be Huge Planes Carry Orange Aardvarks but I am not sure why Scoop would care about orange aardvarks. Not that Scoop has anything against orange aardvarks. In fact I think some of his best friends are orange aardvarks, just not sure where Kodak plays into this unless they are taking pictures of the aardvarks while they are riding Magical Express from the Orlando airport to the Animal Kingdom. Yeah I guess I can see that. So what were the aardvarks wearing? I know when I used to be in school my mom would dress me really nicely for school pictures. I can only assume that momma aardvark would do the same since this is a Kodak moment. And did you ever notice that Kodak spelled backwards is Kadok which I think is from the Inca word "ka doka" which means aardvark loving people.
I'm sorry, what was your question again?
Jeff
Parkhopper
09-26-2005, 04:50 PM
Jeff, HPCOA = Happiest Pin Celebration on Earth (the September Pin Event).
Suzi
AZ JazzyJ
09-26-2005, 04:55 PM
Thanks Suzi. So I guess that means there were no aardvarks huh?
So am I the only one picturing little orange aardvarks lined up along Main Street wearing little Mickey ears and eating frozen bananas with tiny disposable cameras around their neck?
Jeff
Eeyore's Pal
09-27-2005, 04:02 PM
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NJBlackBerry
09-27-2005, 04:13 PM
We're all adults here, you don't have to spell it.
After reading this thread, I am surprised you can make that claim.
meandtheguys2
09-27-2005, 04:32 PM
We're all adults here, you don't have to spell it.
:goodvibes Too funny. Once I was trying to decifer the acronyms while medicated. They were much more interesting, I thought! I managed not to be banned...
Obi-Wan Pinobi
09-27-2005, 04:53 PM
Heat Prostration in 2002 Cured Obi-Wan Pinobi of wanting to go to another Epcot Pin event
Okay, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. :earboy2:
Eeyore's Pal
09-27-2005, 05:37 PM
We're all adults here, you don't have to spell it.
After reading this thread, I am surprised you can make that claim.
NJBB: I see it didn't take you long to assess our resident jester. :earboy2:
AZ JazzyJ
09-27-2005, 07:48 PM
NJBB: I see it didn't take you long to assess our resident jester. :earboy2:
I think this is where I am supposed to say, "I resemble that remark."
I vote for next year's pin event we all get hats that look like Aardvark heads and go visit Scoop. Maybe he'll give us Kodak pins wrapped in ribbons with 2000 dancing cast members. Then we can package all those pins up and send to Larry to thank him for starting this madness with his post which we immediately hijacked. We will officially be known as the PTWAHFS which means Pin Traders With Aardvark Heads For Scoop. Incidently, PTWAHFS is also the Mayan word for "man who dances with pickles". You can look it up if you don't believe me.
What we need is a dentist. You can't have this much fun and not have someone who has their own supply of laughing gas.
Jeff
AZ JazzyJ
10-02-2005, 05:29 PM
I was at HPCOE and traded with Scoop Sanderson for a Mystery Pin. Got a Kodak pin.
While I can't speak for Scoop (I failed my ventriloquist test when the judges couldn't tell which one was the dummy) I do know that he sometimes uses pins like the Kodak pin in his games such as find a match since they are so easily identified that even I can figure out if it matched or not. The other thing is Scoop probably trades hundreds of pins per day and at times I would guess that a pin such as the Kodak pin remains in circulation just because he has not had time to swap it out for something different.
Then again, it may be Scoop's way of honoring the orange Aardvarks or if you ask my son Dakota he would probably say Scoop has that pin because it was Licorice or Butterscotch's favorite pin (how strange is it that the number one memory my eight year old has from his only trip to Disney World is that of a man dressed in plaid that can make wooden dogs do tricks in the street?)
While these Kodak pins are frustrating when they overtake all the lanyards, they are acceptible for trading and we will have to live with the fact that they are around. If we collectors are so bothered by them, perhaps we can do our part to help the Cast Members by trading for 2 of these pins per day and take them out of circulation. It may reduce our personal collection by a few pins but it will do a tremendous amount to help the hobby that we all love. And when we collect enough of them, we can melt them down and create a replica of Expo Hall complete with a little statue of Scoop doing a pin talk.
Jeff
rapriebe
10-03-2005, 07:53 AM
Anybody been to the parks lately to know if the Dancer pins are still on all the CM lanyards? Hopefully they are starting to die out!!!! Have the Kodak pins replaced the Dancers in "popularity"?
CarnotaurDad
10-03-2005, 08:30 AM
Love the idea of trading for them to take them off of the lanyards! I'll have to remember that one when we are down next.
Scoop is one of our DD's favorite parts of the Magic Kingdom. She even has her own "Pin Talks" at home with her collection. He really goes out of his way to make everyone feel special.
NHMickey
10-03-2005, 09:11 AM
I saw that auction and thought the same thing... These are going to be everplace. But what I want to know is how does someone get that many pins in the bags? Disney might need a new inventory control person.
Cheshire Figment
10-03-2005, 12:41 PM
They are maked as 2004 on them. Apparantly all of the leftovers were sold in bulk, probably by Kodak.
Buzz2001
10-03-2005, 12:53 PM
If someone wants to buy 500 pins that will be very difficult to trade, that is their choice.I think the point is that the person that purchased these pins will used them to trade for lanyard pins and that all 500 will be on WDW lanyards in the near future.
doombuggy
10-04-2005, 01:48 PM
Anybody been to the parks lately to know if the Dancer pins are still on all the CM lanyards? Hopefully they are starting to die out!!!! Have the Kodak pins replaced the Dancers in "popularity
Everyone in my shop has at least 1 of the two styles of these pins on their lanyard. I have both styles (the square pin and the wavy one). Someone tried to trade me the other day and give me one, but I had to say no, since I already have it on there (she gave me a different pin instead).
Vickie46
10-04-2005, 02:03 PM
we just got back and my little girl traded for a mystery pin close to the pooh ride on a cm.. well.. it was a KODAK pin.. think about how boring for a cute little princess.... she said Mom why is that a mystery and what is it?? I was disappointed for her but we traded it as soon as we found someone that didn't have it....
We had a ball!
pandamom
10-12-2005, 04:19 PM
Just got back and my dd5 traded for both the 2000 dancer pin AND the Kodak 2004 pin! She picked the 2000 pin because she was born in 2000 -- the cm she traded with was shocked and kept asking if she was sure that was the one she wanted. I have no idea why she picked the Kodak one (only saw a handful of these pins -- dancer pins are still on every lanyard). She also picked up about 1/2 dozen sedesma pins and a few propins. Lanyard and LE pins were slim pickings this trip but dd5 and dd7 were happy with the ones they got (Dh and I don't trade or colllect). dd7 also one a AP pin at the Contemporary pin trading night and she had a good time. She even traded with a few of the non cm's there with books and everyone was very nice. (Well, there was one rude older woman who actually pushed my dd7 out of the way because she wanted to trade from the book my dd7 was looking at. dd7 had already asked if she could look at the book and the owner said yes. )
Kitty-chan
10-13-2005, 05:04 PM
I think the point is that the person that purchased these pins will used them to trade for lanyard pins and that all 500 will be on WDW lanyards in the near future.
Not only that, but it's very discouraging for people who are new to pin trading, and think they're getting a deal, but really they're just getting a whole lot of pins they'll never be able to trade.
I bought 30 of those pins this spring, completely clueless about the fact that they were everywhere. I didn't really think of myself as a pin-trader at the time; my son had about 30 pins total, and I had maybe 10, after a couple visits when we were pin-trading. So, I knew enough to know the 2000 pins were technically tradeable, but not enough to know how incredibly undesirable they were! Since buying those 30, I've spent 2 days each at DL and DLRP, and I've still got 13 of the 2000 pins left. And now I cringe on the odd occasion when I actually can trade one, since I know it means another one of these pins on the poor CM's lanyard, and yet another person knowing they can't trade their 2000 pin.
Plenty of pin-traders don't read any message boards, don't track ebay well enough to see that there are multiple huge lots of these pins, and just think they're getting a bargain, but ultimately are getting ripped off. :(
But one small bit of joy: One time I saw somebody posting about how their DS really wanted a 2000 pin and couldn't wait to get to the parks and trade for one, and I dropped one in the mail to him so he wouldn't have to wait. It felt good to at least be able to spread a little pixie dust. :wizard:
And maybe someday, oh, like in the year 2020, these pins will be tradeable again. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Plus . . . truthfully, with some of the problems in this world, I'm grateful that I have the luxury of complaining about problems like this.
Kitty-chan
10-13-2005, 05:27 PM
Oh man, posting again because I finally looked at the ebay entry that started this thread and it's cracking me up.
"Rare"
"Tradable and highly sought after!"
"Pin lot worth over $3250.00 ($6.50 a pin estimate if just a retail value, worth more in aftermarket)"
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
snowgooseltd
10-17-2005, 10:58 AM
All kidding aside, and I do enjoy reading the stuff you guys come up with....where does an ebayer come up with 200+ of the same pin? Does Disney sell the excess pins somewhere? I would be leary of someone having that many of one pin. It somehow seems illegal or wrong, at best.
corkeyk
10-18-2005, 05:42 PM
All kidding aside,....where does an ebayer come up with 200+ of the same pin? Does Disney sell the excess pins somewhere? .... It somehow seems illegal or wrong, at best.
Funny you should ask where these come from..But Disney wholesales them out to companies that have the highest bid offer. You just need to know how and when the sales are in order to buy these up..I know a few companies that is all they do from Disney and make a small fortune..sometimes they get pins, other times luggage tags and bed sheets..all depends on what they have to sell and how much they ask for it...Just like any other business that has a huge surplus of outdated materials..Disney sells it off and someone buys it...
I do believe Disney has learned after 2000 that they need to really limit how much of a pin they make because this is really coming back to haunt them now with the Millenium dancers pins..Young and dumb in the hobby..Mark it up to the experience for them because now people are dumping these off for pins that disney actually paid to have made(ie the Lanyard series) nd can not recoup the costs..So if they sold 3000 of the Dancer to a wholesaler and they got $100 dollars, Thats 3000 lanyard pins that will disappear for a heck of a deal to some traders.
I also know that everyone had a huge cry when they clearence out pins to CM during the holidays and the CM pin Parties but those are just a cold compared to this epidemic....I would rather get a state Rack pin instead of a Dancers pin any day...
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