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Joan Rivers
09-23-2005, 09:40 AM
I am listening to the radio and there seems to be another small breach in the levee. They are claiming that it's under control........we'll see, I guess.

Geoff_M
09-23-2005, 09:43 AM
Ah, nuts....

ducklite
09-23-2005, 09:49 AM
Just when you think it couldn't get any worse...

God Bless the ACE guys. My cousin is a commercial architect (as opposed to residential) with ACE, and has already been told that he will be given orders to the Gulf Coast, but not for a month or two. He can't start doing his thing until levees are stabalized and the area is cleaned up, and the engineers have determined what can be saved as oppsoed to what needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They must feel like Hans Brinker these days.

Anne

Shutterbug
09-23-2005, 10:14 AM
I have heard numerous reports that if they get 3-5 inches of rain there may be numerous new breaches in the levee system

JimB.
09-23-2005, 02:53 PM
I recently saw that the "chunks of stuff" plugging the "Katrina" breaches is still there, but they are having difficulty keeping the soil from washing away.

This will set back the "drying out" of NO some.

I guess the only "good" thing is that it most likely will not cause any NEW property damage. Everything in the previously flooded areas was pretty much toast anyway........................

chadfromdallas
09-23-2005, 02:55 PM
That 9th ward area is completely flooded again with the 30 ft. wide break.

Charade
09-23-2005, 03:04 PM
oh crap!

M:SteveO
09-23-2005, 04:55 PM
And just think of what might have happened if the Mayor got his way and there were people back in New Orleans.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-23-2005, 05:38 PM
It looks like post Katrina now.

:(

Lisa loves Pooh
09-23-2005, 05:40 PM
And just think of what might have happened if the Mayor got his way and there were people back in New Orleans.

You might check your facts.

9th ward wasn't even on the agenda for reentry. It was areas that had stayed dry first....and then those that receded water first.

The only ones permitted back on Monday were in Algiers---and businesses in downtown.

And he ultimately did make the call that day and cancelled the reentry.

I'm only commenting--b/c I don't think you are suspecting worse case..but more your disagreement with the entry plan.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-23-2005, 05:42 PM
That 9th ward area is completely flooded again with the 30 ft. wide break.


Do you know if it is the same breech, or a new one?

M:SteveO
09-23-2005, 05:44 PM
You might check your facts.

9th ward wasn't even on the agenda for reentry. It was areas that had stayed dry first....and then those that receded water first.

The only ones permitted back on Monday were in Algiers---and businesses in downtown.

And he ultimately did make the call that day and cancelled the reentry.

I'm only commenting--b/c I don't think you are suspecting worse case..but more your disagreement with the entry plan.

I stand corrected, I did not check which communitites would be allowed in. I was just commenting on the overall plan by the mayor to let people back in to a city that, as this incident shows, is still not safe.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-23-2005, 05:49 PM
I stand corrected, I did not check which communitites would be allowed in. I was just commenting on the overall plan by the mayor to let people back in to a city that, as this incident shows, is still not safe.

I agree...just was making sure you new the plan...and that the risky areas...9th ward and over by Lake Ponchetrain...New Orleans east I belive...were still under water and definitely reentry was not permitted.

Thankfully--the city was kept close as long as it was...and that the reentry had just started. All that was to have been in the city (in the "bowl") were those who could prove they had a business in the areas that were part of the reentry plan. How that actually worked out, I don't know. But not really anybody who was just a resident....with no business to open or report to in the opening area.

Algiers on the westbank was the only purely residential reentry on Monday.

I can see what you are saying though.

:)

bsnyder
09-23-2005, 07:37 PM
With this latest levee break, I wonder what should happen next. I asked this a few weeks ago.

Should New Orleans fix the levees first, before they rebuild anything?

We've got over two months left of hurricane season, this year.

seashoreCM
09-24-2005, 09:03 AM
Fixing the levees properly may mean taking some land by eminent domain to make the levees physically thicker and wider. In some parts of the city it may mean building a new levee beside the original levee and then decommissioning the original levee. This could mean taking a strip of land as wide as a block with two rows of townhouses.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

Lisa loves Pooh
09-24-2005, 10:59 AM
Fixing the levees properly may mean taking some land by eminent domain to make the levees physically thicker and wider. In some parts of the city it may mean building a new levee beside the original levee and then decommissioning the original levee. This could mean taking a strip of land as wide as a block with two rows of townhouses.


That makes total sense. I was wondering how they would go about it....very good suggestion!