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chimera
09-18-2005, 09:02 AM
Hello everyone!

For those new to us, we're a group of people who are planning to participate in the 2006 and/or 2007 Disney Half or Full marathons. We range from non-running beginners to triathletes. Come join us!

Here's the Marathon FAQ, a great place to answer your marathon questions:
Disney Marathon FAQ (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=725285)
And some websites for further running/walking info:
http://www.runnersworld.com
http://www.coolrunning.com
http://www.halhigdon.com
http://www.running4women.com/
http://www.runnergirl.com/index.shtml
http://www.katherineswitzer.com/fitness.html
The John Bingham site:
http://www.waddleon.com/
Jeff Galloway's site:
http://www.jeffgalloway.com/

Pacing Calculator (http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm)

Not much to report here today. I think I'm going to count two hours of dancing around at a Journey concert last night as cross-training. :teeth: Could y'all talk a little louder today...I still can't quite hear right ;)

Krista...wtg on your 5K :banana: :banana: Fabulous pace! :Pinkbounc

Lynne...mudbiking sounds like fun! I envy your stamina...how many races do you have planned between now and Disney?

Heather...wtg on your 4-miler! :banana: I'll be right on your heels...my time was 59:09. My goal is to W3/R2 for the half. That starts in my training program in a couple weeks.

Lily...the member cruise sounds fun! What great stuff...my family wants to go on the next one! Sorry it got cut diverted by the weather.

Colleen...great pace!! :banana:

MelR...you're amazing...have you always been an athlete?

Craig...great to hear from you!

Sunny...carbo-loading must be contagious. I've been eating everything that's not tied down this week. Love the story about Grammie!

chersheyb...I think most people recommend staying on the monorail line since that's the best way to get transportation during the race.

Carrie...sounds like a busy schedule! How did it go?

Helen...looking forward to your shiny attire. If you can't wear it for the race, how 'bout for dinner at TE?

Cam...how was your 5K?

Burning question...what corral did you register for? I'll be hanging out in the 3:00 group for the half.

I'll be making ressies for TE in a couple weeks, so get your counts in now!

plutosmyfav
09-18-2005, 12:22 PM
I've had a GREAT running weekend! :cool1:

I did a "mini" goofy!

Yesterday I drove up to the Applefest course and took a stab at it. Its a figurine with one large loop and one small. I was pressed for time so I only did the large loop (9.2 miles) with an average pace of 9:29.

I did my LR this morning but opted to not make it too long since I had to go home and pick of DD for her wog right afterwards. So the LR was 15 miles at an average pace of 9:29. I don't know what's up with this pace but I'll take it :banana: DD and I did a 3.5 mile wog with an avg pace of 14:07. All together I put in 27.7 miles in under 24 hours!

I did a comparison of my bikepath altitude profile with the Applefest loop and decided the Applefest hills aren't that bad. (I didn't hit one really bad short hill that's onthe small loop). I'll post my splits and altitude profiles:



Sept 17
Applefest major loop 9.2 miles
1 9:31
2 9:40
3 9:38
4 8:59
5 9:11
6 9:47
7 9:58
8 9:17
9 9:18
.2 8:38

overall avg pace: 9:29


Sept 18 BP
1 9:27
2 9:11
3 9:30
4 9:10
5 9:15
6 9:14
7 9:01
8 10:29 (water stop)
9 9:03
10 9:10
11 9:17
12 9:53
13 9:07
14 10:06
15 10:25

overall pace: 9:29

Applefest large loop Altitude Profile
http://livinglively.com/clipart/applefestlargeloop.jpg

BP Altitude Profile
http://livinglively.com/clipart/bpaltitude.jpg



Note the MAJOR incline around mile 7-8.5 on the Applefest. In the real race that is mile 9. UGH!

I don't think that is an accurate profile for the bikepath, my Garmin got weak signals several times. I might update that pic with a more accurate one.

kathcoll
09-18-2005, 01:12 PM
I've been training for the Marine Corps marathon October 30, and then the Goofy challenge in January. So far I've just been working on the MCM training (I did a 20 miler yesterday). Come November I have to start thinking of my training schedule for Disney. Although I've done a marathon before I've never done the back-to-back races. What training schedule are you using? How do you alter the training to prep for both races?

princessmomma
09-18-2005, 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger Lily 03
We are staying in BWV and I am thinking my family may be there as I am leaving MGM going toward EPCOT. That would leave them enough time to get to the finish line out front of EPCOT maybe...not sure there.



Hi Lily,

Would your family be taking buses or driving to the finish line out in front of EPCOT? I am wondering if my family could see me on the Broadwalk and then get over to the finish line in time.

Colleen

gatorphipps
09-18-2005, 03:13 PM
Quote:Would your family be taking buses or driving to the finish line out in front of EPCOT? I am wondering if my family could see me on the Broadwalk and then get over to the finish line in time.
Colleen - Just a note to you and who ever else was asking about this. My DH met me in MGM (2004 Matathon) and then had to BOOK over to the Matathon finish. :Pinkbounc He almost did not make it. Just warn your scream team of this. Also, I live in Charlotte, NC. Where do you live? Maybe we could meet and do some training runs together if you want.

Everyone - If you have never run the WDW 1/2 or full, just let your scream team know this is a VERY HARD race to support. My DH knows all the back ways through WDW and still had a hard time meeting me in 2004. We carried a phone to keep him updated. :confused3

Colleen & Melissa - My LR/marathon pace is around 10 - 10:30 right now. I would love to run some of the marathon with you 2. However, I am doing Goofy so I may be REAL SLOW! :hourglass

Training going well. We have had to alter our schedule somewhat b/c we are running the Charlotte Marathon in December! :earseek: But we start double LR this week! :earseek: :earseek: Bree is reading but not posting so she is still around. She went back to work full time.:guilty: Work does always get in the way!
Christa

princessmomma
09-18-2005, 08:08 PM
Colleen & Melissa - My LR/marathon pace is around 10 - 10:30 right now. I would love to run some of the marathon with you 2. However, I am doing Goofy so I may be REAL SLOW! :hourglass

Christa

Hey Christa, it would be great to have you join us!! This is my first marathon, so I want to start running about the same pace you will be running! I ran the first 10K in my 1/2 marathon way too fast, about 57 min and I really felt it in that last half. I really don't want to make that mistake again. I live in Hickory, about 45 minutes NW of Charlotte. Maybe I could make the drive in for one of my longer runs.

I hope Bree is doing well.

Colleen

TiffJ
09-18-2005, 09:05 PM
I can't believe so many of you are doing multiple marathons. I guess I really am hanging with the BIG :dog:

Pluto-you are a great inspiration! I cant believe how much you have done this weekend, you rock!

Well I have now had my 1st official "stonker" And it taught me a very important lesson. You should never do your LR (or LW in my case) with nothing in your stomach but a diet coke & sinus pill. I did 4 miles & the last 2 were awful. I was lightheaded & tingly & thought I was going to pass out. So of course I had to slow down which was very disappointing. But at least I finished. My pace was 16 min/mile. I guess it could have been worse considering how bad I felt.

Oh-guess what. My wonderful mother (who is doing the 1/2 with me & paying for us all to stay at WL) had now ordered me a Garmin! She called me yesterday & said it was a neat training toy, that I should have one & that she was going to order me one. Mom rocks too! I can't wait to get it.

Keep up the good work everyone. I'm going to be a couch potato for the rest of the night. In addition to my 4 miles I mowed the whole yard with a push mower (approx 1/2 acre) and I hurt & I'm tired.

MelRhoads
09-18-2005, 10:40 PM
Christa and Colleen - I was actually contemplating my ability to do a 10:30 pace after doing the 1/2 the day before. I think I'm like Christa, I might be REAL SLOW!!! I was planning on doing the 1/2 pretty slow so I would not be wasted for my very first marathon ever. Who knows... I just want to finish the whole in under 5 hours. I cannot stand to run alone, so I might be motivated to keep up with you guys just for the company and i'll plan to crash for the rest of the day. Maybe craig can hang with us, he is doing goofy too!

I was a mountain biking queen this weekend. I HATE IT. I am so bruised and beaten. It is because I am a huge chicken and I clip out on one side whenever the trails get technical. Then, I always touch down and ram the clipped out pedal into the back of my leg. OUCH. I did about 15 miles of single track mt. bike sat. and ran 3 miles tonight. I was really slow!!! I am probably going to do a little mt. biking on tues and and a 6 mile trail run and that is all since i have the 100 mile torture fest, oops, I mean adventure race this weekend. I am on a 4 man team and this time I am not the only girl. The team is a couple, with whom we are good friends and my husband and I. If we take any pics during the race, I'll post them! The race has a 36 hour cut off, but I hope we make it in around 24. that may be wishful thinking. Did I mention I'm going to die????

Sunny - the garmin info is really cool!!! I just have the 101 so mine does not do the elevation profile. It would really be interesting to see it though, because we have some big long hills (nothing like Monte). I think I am going to make my EC use her garmin to do the elevation profile because she has the cool one that will link to to computer. She is doing the adventure race with us this weekend. She vows not to yell at me but to sing happy, encouraging songs to keep me moving. I'm not sure which is worse. I'll have to tell you about EC's rendition of encouraging songs on our 21mile summer trail run sometime!!! The only reason the songs kept me moving is because I wanted to catch up with her to put my hand over her mouth!! Sometimes the EC might be worse than the IC. I guess it all depends on your taste in music :teeth:

kaf7878
09-19-2005, 07:14 AM
Hi Everyone,

Well I *think* I am back in action after almost a month!!! My calf seems to be healing somewhat. Still a little sore but nowhere near what it was. I had already registered for a 5K on Saturday so I went ahead and ran it. My time was 30:45 which is only abt 10 seconds slower than my normal 5K times so I was happy. Honeslty I was happy to be able to run at all!!!

Today starts the Hal Higdon 16 week plan. No more treadmill for me either--I'm taking it on the road! Its still super hot but I'll just deal with it.

Great job everybody on your 5K PRs!!!!

aladdinsgirl
09-19-2005, 08:38 AM
Good morning! :sunny: How is everyone today? Well, I got my first running injury and it's a really stupid one. I was running my 5 miles yesterday at a running park, well when I run I kind of space out and let my mind wonder. I wasn't paying attention and my foot slipped off path, my ankle turned and I wiped out BIG TIME, completely busted up my left knee. I was so mad at myself!! :mad: I don't think I did any permanent damage to my knee, but I think I'll be out of commission for a couple of days since I can't bend my knee and 14 hours later my knee is still bleeding. So I've learned my lesson--run in the MIDDLE of the path!! :rotfl2: But that's okay because my Steelers rocked yesterday afternoon!!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Susan and Mel-- :cheer2: :cheer2: Go Panther and Bucs!! :cheer2: :cheer2:

MelR--You are going to ride your bike for 24 hours?? :earseek: Do you sleep any time during the ride? More power to you!!! :wizard:

Kaf--Glad that your leg is feeling better! Great time on your 5K! I would LOVE to see a 30 minute 5K, only 6 minutes to go! :goodvibes

Tiff--What an awesome Mom you have! How nice of her to get you a Garmin. I love my Garmin :lovestruc I couldn't imagine training without it. Even little puppies need cool toys! :pug: :teeth:

Sunny--You truly amaze me! I think your nuts, but you're definitely a big dog! :dog: When I grow up, I want to be just like you! ;)

I better get to work, talk to y'all later!! Happy training and watch where you're running!! :teeth:

Krista princess:

gatorphipps
09-19-2005, 08:57 AM
Christa and Colleen - I was actually contemplating my ability to do a 10:30 pace after doing the 1/2 the day before. I think I'm like Christa, I might be REAL SLOW!!! I was planning on doing the 1/2 pretty slow so I would not be wasted for my very first marathon ever. Who knows... I just want to finish the whole in under 5 hours. I cannot stand to run alone, so I might be motivated to keep up with you guys just for the company and i'll plan to crash for the rest of the day. Maybe craig can hang with us, he is doing goofy too!
:cheer2: I am right there with you Melissa. :cheer2: My plan is to go slow on the half so I won't be so wasted for the full. I am normally not sore after a 13 mile run if I do not blow it out. I just don't want to get up the morning of the full and be so stiff. We will see. I am not trying to PR at all during the Goofy.

Like I have said, we are starting our double long runs this weekend. Not to long though. Six on Thursday and 12 on Friday. However, if you throw the Charlotte hills in on that, it will not be so easy. :earseek:

Krista - I have done that so many times. I once fell at the beginning (mile 3) of a 20 mile run! OUCH! I did finish, but my knees were all bloody and I had to rip my NEW pants off at the knee so it would not rub. They were ripped already pretty bad. :guilty: And it was COLD outside!

Christa

MelRhoads
09-19-2005, 09:26 AM
Krista - I am so sorry that you fell!!! I hope your knee and ankle get better soon!

I'm not actually going to ride my bike for 24 hours. The adventure race consists of multiple disciplines. We will canoe, trek, orienteer, rappel (ususally) and mt. bike for 100 miles! The course is given to our 4 person coed team in map coordinates and our navigator (not me) uses a map and compass to find the checkpoints along the course. We have to travel in the means specified to each checkpoint. Did I mention I'm going to die???

TXBelle
09-19-2005, 09:57 AM
Melissa- I can't wait to hear all about it next week (if you survive ;) )! That sounds so cool.

Krista- Sorry to hear about your knee and ankle. Here's some PD for a quick recovery. :wizard:

I had a fun Sunday. I rode 15 miles on my mountain bike (a new PR). Then I went road bike shopping. Of course I fell in love with the most expensive one I tried. :rolleyes: I managed to fall over while test riding one bike and bruised my left leg and knee nicely. Of course, my first thought was "Did I scratch the bike? Is the bike okay?" It was a $2000 bike that I was not ready to take home with me. No scratch on the bike, my knee on the other hand . . .not so lucky. Then last night I took the big plunge and installed clipless pedals on my bike. These allow you to lock your feet onto the bike pedals. My first attempt to unclip and stop was successful. Unfortunately, I put my weight on the side that was not unclipped and I fell like a tree in the woods. Timber! Lucky for me because the concrete of the driveway broke my fall. So there I am laying on my side in a huge puddle of water caused by the neighbor's sprinkler system with my bike on top of me laughing hysterically as my kids are yelling "Mommy are you okay?" My dad said "Maybe we should go get your helmet" which of course I had forgotten to put on. I got up and tried again several times, learning my lesson from the first time. I did not fall again. It was so fun to have my girls running down the sidewalk next to me while I pedaled in the street and then my attempting to stop as they coached me. One of my DDs kept yelling "Take out the foot that you are going to fall on!" It was a great night. :flower:

As for this morning, I have a huge welt and bruise on my um back side. I did 40 minutes on the TM at the gym. Still no problems with the ankle. I look forward to going home tonight and practicing more on my bike. Maybe I'll practice in the grass this time.

Happy Monday everyone!

plutosmyfav
09-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Krista and Healther :grouphug: So sorry you both fell. I hope you heal real quick.

Kaf-- great to see you back. Sounds like you're right back on track with your pace and training.

MelR-- I have a question for you... Are you going to die????? :earboy2: Your adventures sound so exciting. I can't wait to hear the recap. I didin't realize this is your first marathon. Its mine, too!

Christa-- when in Dec are you doing a marathon? How much recovery time will you have? you ROCK!

Tiffj-- sorry your had a bad learning experience. I think half of the reason we train is to learn all the things that work and don't work, not just the muscle strength buildup. Your Mom sounds great... is she adopting? JK, my Mom is great, too, she just doesn't run! I'm starting to get excited about my daughter's running. I almost bought her an mp3 player like mine last night just for fun. She has my old mini-disk player right now. I'm excited and worried at the same time. Running addiction costs TIMES two!!!!! Yikes! BUt its worth every penny if she gets hooked.

WDW veterans, what is the best strategy to get my Dx and DS to the finish line. They won't be supported me through the race, but I'd like to have them at the finish in a reasonable window to when I should cross. Dx isn't a crowds person and DS is wild so I don't want to direct them there too early. Do they walk from Epcot's parking lot? I'm not exactly sure how its laid out.

Thanks!
Sunny

keenercam
09-19-2005, 10:43 AM
Hi, everyone! My training has been non-existent and I have been coming here to be inspired by all of you, even though I haven't been posting. It sounds like everyone is moving right along, though I am hoping we are all very quick learners so that our "learning experience" injuries become much fewer and farther between! :teeth: (My biggest injury so far was banging my knee on the coffee table yesterday as I went to the kitchen for dessert! :( )

Did my 5K yesterday with only one "workout" this past week, so I shouldn't be surprised that there wasn't much of an improvement. But, my "performances" seem to be improving each time and I think by the time I start the MFM "walk the 1/2" plan on 10/2, my pace will be low enough that I can really focus on form and endurance. I am going to add some inclined TM work for the next couple of weeks, too.

So, here is my performance record to date:

DATE-----TIME-----PACE

3/5/05-----54:40-----17:36
7/4/05-----50:12-----16:09
7/23/05-----49:47-----16:01
9/3/05-----47:24-----15:15
9/18/05-----46:21-----14:55

wtpclc
09-19-2005, 02:29 PM
HI all! Did my 6 on Sat. Didn't feel great, but averaged about a 10:45 - 10:45 pace, so woo hoo for me!

Mel - WTG on your pace. HOPE YOUR HEARING COMES BACK SOON!

chersheyb - I'm a first-time marathoner too!

krista - Hope you heal soon!

Sorry to everyone I've missed! This is going to be a week from you know where and I've got to get back to it! Happy training all!

perfectmatch300
09-19-2005, 03:05 PM
I just posted on last week's thread by mistake. Shows what moving will do for you!

Checking in to say that we are finally in our house. Don't have time to catch up now - have to get back to unpacking boxes. Haven't done much of anything else lately but pack boxes, move boxes and unpack boxes. Not even any time to swim in the "noodle soup"! If anyone ever hears me mention moving again, please lock me up somewhere! Ugh! I hate moving! Now that I am back on line, I'll get back as soon as I can to catch up. Hopefully the unpacking will go smoothly and I can get into some kind of regular training routine soon. Right now I'm thinking that training will be a whole lot easier than all this moving!

MelRhoads
09-19-2005, 03:12 PM
Heather - I have been riding clipless for several years and I STILL do the low speed fall occasionally. As far as road bike shopping, I got my frame and fork and a few other parts off ebay and then used my local bike shop for the components. They put it together for me. There are a ton of good used road bikes on e-bay!!!! I think I ended up paying about half of the new price for my bike and it is only 2 yrs old. My advice would be to get the best bike you can buy. I rode a bike for about 4 years that was made of cromolly steel and had few gears. I usually pull the boy behind it. I kept telling myself I was content with it, until I actually test rode a nice bike this summer. It was like driving a luxury car (not that I would know - I have a subaru)!!!!

Sunny - This is a year of firsts for me. First 100 mile adventure race (Did I mention....well you know), first century ride (again with the dying concept), and 1st marathon (so intelligently preceeded by a half, no doubt, I'm going to die!) I'm pretty excited about the marathon, but since I said I would "never do a marathon" I have to refer to the event as goofy. I'm not expecting a very good time, but since I've never done one and since I'm doing goofy, I'm guaranteed a new PR! :rolleyes:

solotraveler
09-19-2005, 04:17 PM
Hi all!

Not too much time to post at the moment, but...

Still feeling the effects of this minor cold that I have. I have been sucking on cough drops for the past couple of days and feel quite a bit better. I decided that I would take yesterday off and then run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of this week--- so of course I get antsy and did a couple of miles last night. Today I did my 45 minute run (3/2) and it was just one of those runs that felt "off." My Garmin froze up before I got started, so I was stuck just using my stopwatch. Then I never felt like I got a good pace going--felt fairly sluggish. It was overcast and humid--- You get the idea. But hey, I got it done and that's a good thing.

Happy training all!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

kathcoll
09-19-2005, 07:01 PM
I've been training for the Marine Corps marathon October 30, and then the Goofy challenge in January. So far I've just been working on the MCM training (I did a 20 miler yesterday). Come November I have to start thinking of my training schedule for Disney. Although I've done a marathon before I've never done the back-to-back races. What training schedule are you using? How do you alter the training to prep for both races?

gatorphipps
09-19-2005, 07:35 PM
I've been training for the Marine Corps marathon October 30, and then the Goofy challenge in January. So far I've just been working on the MCM training (I did a 20 miler yesterday). Come November I have to start thinking of my training schedule for Disney. Although I've done a marathon before I've never done the back-to-back races. What training schedule are you using? How do you alter the training to prep for both races?
Look at the tricharlotte.com (www.tricharlotte.com) site I so often quote. It will show the training I am doing for the WDW Goofy. :banana:

Sunny - I am running the Charlotte on Dec 3rd. I have a scheduled 22 mile run that day anyway so what is 4 more miles? :goodvibes My DD5 and DD7 are doing their last mile of the Kids Marathon that day and Dh will be there to cheer them on. The Kids Marathon is where children run 26.2 miles from Oct to Dec. The girls are REALLY excited. They think they are big :dog:s.

Christa

TiffJ
09-19-2005, 07:45 PM
Christa-that kids marathon sounds so cool , my DS would love to do that

Sunny-DS7 has been getting into the walking/running thing since I have too. He hopes to do the 5k at WDW with his cousins. However even that has a min 16 minute mile. So he's in training for it. He bought a MP3 with his own money shortly after I got mine (cheap one from Wal Mart) Now he's bugging me for his own Garmin. (he's only 7)

perfectmatch- I'm in the process of getting my house ready to sell. I've already found the house I want so if everything goes as planned I will be moving not only during my key training time but during the holidays :earseek:
I feel your pain & am dreading mine!

Melissa-that is some adventure race you are doing. Good luck. If it were me doing all that I would be afraid I was going to die :rotfl2:

Everyone get healthy & stop banging up those legs!

TEK224
09-19-2005, 08:24 PM
Did my three miles tonight and kept it uner 12 min/mile pace (34:06).

Next week I'll be upping the miles to 4.

Trying not to sound clueless :confused3 , what is a Garmin?

Terri

Lisa loves Pooh
09-19-2005, 08:57 PM
Hi Lily,

Would your family be taking buses or driving to the finish line out in front of EPCOT? I am wondering if my family could see me on the Broadwalk and then get over to the finish line in time.

Colleen

No---there is only less than 2 miles left in the race. If they have tickets, they can enter the park...and meet you after you finish. There isn't enough time to witness your finish though.

They'll have to pick one or the other.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-19-2005, 09:04 PM
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WDW veterans, what is the best strategy to get my Dx and DS to the finish line. They won't be supported me through the race, but I'd like to have them at the finish in a reasonable window to when I should cross. Dx isn't a crowds person and DS is wild so I don't want to direct them there too early. Do they walk from Epcot's parking lot? I'm not exactly sure how its laid out.

Thanks!
Sunny

You need an estimated finish time...best, okay, and worst case scenario..and a cell phone.

When you get to the halfway point..they will need to make their way to bus transportation.....

If they are on monorail...by the time you get to MK would be good. They can roam the parking lot at EPCOT away from the congestion....and then you can call them when you enter EPCOT.

My mother--stood..when facing the back of the grandstands...all the way to the right...there was a very unpopulated nook...that she stood in and as I came around the corner...there she was. Not quite the finish line (a few feet away....) but a great place for a last second cheering section.

If traveling by bus, your family will need to allow for a minimum of 2 hours traveling time. No idea the allowable time needed for monorail.

I went straight to the med tent after crossing the finish line...so I do not know about reuniting with family at the finish. (I had the flu...so this is not indicative of a healthy race!).

Lisa loves Pooh
09-19-2005, 09:09 PM
Trying not to sound clueless :confused3 , what is a Garmin?

Terri


A wrist-wearable GPS.

It calculates your time, but also your distance, and pacing.

It is--shall I say...a REALLY cool gadget even for the non-techno weenie :). First gadget and probably the last I'll ever ask for.

No more--having to drive the car plotting paths or to figure out what I did.

This weekend...we were on a course with the last season team who was doing their 20 mile...we had a couple of people miss a water stop (didn't see it for some reason) and kept on going...and probably ended up doing a half marathon instead of just an 8-mile training day. OOPS!

For me--it helps me monitor my pace b/c I very easily drop of my pace..and during the race, I leave the gate too fast and I can see that and I will slow up a bit.

kathcoll
09-20-2005, 01:13 AM
Christa,

Thank you! I've been looking all over for a workable training for the double!

TEK224
09-20-2005, 08:38 AM
Also, where exactly is the fininsh line area? I know it's in the Epcot parking area, but how far from, say, the front entrance where the buses would normally drop you off if going into Epcot?

Trying to plan where friends will be able to catch a glimpse of me.

Terri

plutosmyfav
09-20-2005, 09:04 AM
Trying not to sound clueless :confused3 , what is a Garmin?

Terri

Oh you'll be sorry you asked! (or at least your pocket book will be!). You'll soon "just gotta have it"!!!!

In addition to what Lisa wrote, the 201 and 301 Forerunners compute your calorie burn (estimated) and will give you altitude profiles for your runs (scroll back to the beginning of this thread and you'll see the altitude profiles for two of my paths). The 301 will also keep track of your heart rate. I have the 201 and love it. You can set it to automatically keep track of laps (what ever distance you want a lap to be). You can also set it to "virtual trainer" where a little guy runs on the screen showing you if you are behind or ahead of your goal pace. Its just toooooooo fun!

I wasn't up for any running or ct yesterday. I did upper body weights. I'm not sure if I'll do my lower body weights today. The left knee was calling "timeout" yesterday, not sure how it feels yet today. I might opts for rowing for my cardio today. The weekend caught up with me!

Sunny

panthergirl
09-20-2005, 10:44 AM
Good morning. Sorry to hear we have a few "owies" from the weekend. Krista, your experience sounds scary and could have been so much worse! Gald you are doing OK. Congrats on the big Steelers win Sunday :) !

I did my long run on Saturday - 6.6 miles in 1:34 but it was pure torture. The humidity jumped way up last weekend and I sure felt it. This Saturday I'll do 7.2 miles. My plan is to get to 10.5 miles by the first week of November then just hold there and work on speed. As of now I am well ahead of the sweeper. (thanks to whoever posted a link to the info for the pacing requirements!)

Christa and Bree - Did you guys run Saturday morning? I passed a couple of runners and one looked like Christa from the picture you posted a few weeks ago. Just wondered if it might have been you guys. I was in Myers Park on the road that cuts through to Providence where the water station is around 8:15 or so.

Lisa - I am curious about how to tell my group to find me at the finish as well. We are at the Beach Club. Is there a bus that will take them to the area? I also am wondering how I can get to WWOS to pick up my packet on Friday. We won't have a car. Worse comes to worst we can cab it.

Have a great week everybody. Panthers at Dolphins this weekend. GO PANTHERS! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Susan

murcor
09-20-2005, 10:57 AM
In what range do you keep your heartrate low, mid or in the upper range? For training, 1/2 or the full?

Thanks

Angela

plutosmyfav
09-20-2005, 12:38 PM
Lisa, if my family is at Epcot, can they exit the main gate and walk to the finish (or near finish as you described) easily?

I decided to do lower body weigths and abs. No knee pain at all, yeah! BUT I managed to pull my back. I can't remember the last time I had back pain (I used to have chronic back pain before losing weight). Ouch. I took Advil and hope it goes away ASAP.

Angela-- I only check my heart rate on the TM since there's a built in bar to hold and do it. I generally am high according to my age heart rate zone unless I'm doing an easy run then I am usually low. I don't hit middle too often.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-20-2005, 01:16 PM
Also, where exactly is the fininsh line area? I know it's in the Epcot parking area, but how far from, say, the front entrance where the buses would normally drop you off if going into Epcot?

Trying to plan where friends will be able to catch a glimpse of me.

Terri

Lisa - I am curious about how to tell my group to find me at the finish as well. We are at the Beach Club. Is there a bus that will take them to the area? I also am wondering how I can get to WWOS to pick up my packet on Friday. We won't have a car. Worse comes to worst we can cab it.


The finish....if you were to exit the park through the turnstiles....instead of exiting..you run to the right...behind the building that houses the kennel (and I think the wheelchairs...you come out in a backstage area that crosses right into the parking lot.

Arriving by bus....guests will be on the OPPOSITE end of the parking lot...and will proceed walking by the turnstiles and by the kennel...into the parking lot area. They may have to cross the tram area to get into the actual parking area. The finish is located adjacent to wear guests dropping off pets for the kennel would park. (Very easy to walk to BTW as cabs will still have to drop you off in designated areas)

Busses all over WDW will be running...but they will take a long time. However--by the "finish time"...the roads that the busses would use from beach club....shouldn't have any trouble driving around. But lots of buffer is wise in the travel time.

Basically knowing your pace--and where you are at is very important. You can use your phone call to report if you are ahead of or behind pace.

My hubby was supposed to see me at MK...and I didn't see him at all. I didn't have a phone, but used my sisters phone at a water stop. She had told me that they were still en route (stuck on a bus for well over an hour...probably close to 2)....basically gave the "abort mission" command...and they just hopped onto the monorail at wherever he ended up (TTC or MK, don't recall) to get to EPCOT.

Your pace will be the paramount--how you finishe your longest training run is your baseline to figure out when you expect to finish. The race starts at 6am. You expect a 5 hour finish....(11am), you want your group at the finish line by about 10:45am.

The cell phone contacts should be minimum...and used only if you find yourself way behind..or somehow way ahead of your anticipated pacing.

just my opinion..take it for what it is worth :)

My family ended up waiting a long time b/c I just basically crashed and burned due to the flu. I was almost 2 hours after my anticipated finish :(.


Lisa, if my family is at Epcot, can they exit the main gate and walk to the finish (or near finish as you described) easily?

They should. They would probalby walk to the LEFT upon entered World Showcase (going by way of Britain and Canada---b/c the runners go to the right and the travel paths are a bit tight)....upon exiting the main gate..they walk past the kennel (to the right)....and then over into the parking lot. They should be able to see grandstands and then walk just towards that.

Very easy.

TEK224
09-20-2005, 01:40 PM
[QUOTE=plutosmyfav]Oh you'll be sorry you asked! (or at least your pocket book will be!). You'll soon "just gotta have it"!!!!

Just what I need - another gadget! :rolleyes:
I'd probably be interested in the 301 so I can keep track of HR. Any idea what these cost and where I can check one out?

Terri

xterratri
09-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Got out of class yesterday afternoon and went and did a 10+ miler. That's the max long run for the half marathon plan so I shouldn't have a problem getting through that in less than 2 weeks. I had never been to the Kennebunk Bridle Path before and was expecting a fairly wide rails-to-trails type path. Wrong, it more closely resembled single track with rocks, roots, and less than shoulder width wide in places so the Garmin was not a happy camper most of the time. I know I did over 10 and possibly closer to 10.3-10.5. I also didn't worry about pacing as it was a far different running surface than being on the roads or even most multi-use trails.

My swimmer buddy and I rode this morning(32 mi) and it took until about 22 miles into it for my legs to stop feeling yucky. We actually timed it perfectly as it started thundering as we were putting the bikes away(they both live in my apartment) and it was raining within 5 minutes. We had actually cut the ride from the planned distance so it was good that we did. Someone was questioning using clipless pedals on a mtn bike. I ride cross country so I ride with them but I also joke that it's not a good ride if I don't finish up dirty and bloody(often bruised too). I haven't spent near the time on a mtn bike that I used to before starting med school and I have a nice mtn bike. I feel bad to see it just sitting there not being ridden.

MelR- what type of doc is your husband? How does he find time to train, etc? Did that effect his specialty choice?

Keep training everyone. X-mas(and then the marathon/half/goofy) is coming.

DavidandDenise
09-20-2005, 02:21 PM
Okay, I guess I'd better post here. My wife and I are both training for our first marathon. A friend of hers talked us into going down with her and her boyfriend to give it a go. We've always had an interest in doing some sort of competitive running ourselves (We are both cross country coaches after all), but I guess we needed a nudge to get into it. I'm sure she'll be on here to post frequently once I let her know I broke the ice. It's great to see so many people supporting each other on such a great endeavor. We're currently in week 3 of a personalized program that a former marathon coach gave us. It's been a bit rough teaching (yup, we're both teachers), going out for practice, and then coming home for our runs. The heat has also lingered a bit too long for my liking. Oh well, the end will be worth it, and I'm sure you'll hear much from us in the coming weeks. Keep at it everyone!

David

kaf7878
09-20-2005, 02:24 PM
Hey guys--

Well I did my first "official" run yesterday to kick of the Hal Higdon Marathon Plan. 3 miles but I did it outdoors--whew, it kicked my butt! Haven't run in a while with my injury plus add the heat and being used to a TM. Big reality check!

I did 4m today and it was still difficult but I made it. I bought some Adidas Supernovas and wore them only to get a blister--they just don't fit my feet right. So took those back and got some Mizuno Nirvana's--hoping these work out--cost me $40 extra too! Believe it or not, after running for over two years I finally went to a real running store where they look at your stride and walk so you buy proper shoes. I've been buying nuetral shoes forever but I actually pronate inward drastically on my left foot (didn't know!). So now I'm wearing stability shoes.

So a couple questions--how do you guys keep sweat from dripping into your eyes while running. This was a BIG issue for me at the half in January--I think I was blind most of the race!

Second question, do you use a "fanny" pack while running?? I need to use one since I'm running outdoors to hold my keys and cell phone (while DD is in nursury). The pack is constantly moving, chafing, bouncing, etc. Anyone have a solution for this???

solotraveler
09-20-2005, 02:59 PM
Hey guys--

I bought some Adidas Supernovas and wore them only to get a blister--they just don't fit my feet right. So took those back.....



I wear Adidas Supernovas and they fit me perfectly--- BUT my model has aparently been retired. :guilty: So now I have to go and get fitted again and make sure the new model fits as well before buying a new pair. (sigh)

In better news, my Garmin works again!! :banana: :banana: Yippee!! I was starting to think I lost her last night (Screen froze before my run yesterday and I couldn't do anything to it, including turn in off...) So, I let the battery run out and Voila! it fixed itself! I took a quick 2-mile run just to test it out and worked like a charm. Whew.

I also seem to have developed a bit of tendonitis in my right foot. So, per the handy athletic trainer at work, I get to ice down the sore spot after each and every run. :rolleyes: I was worried it was something more serious, but luckily it wasn't. Hee, I it's been years since I've had a real sports injury, LOL!

Welcome to all the newcomers!! Glad to see our little group growing again.

Happy training all!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

MelRhoads
09-20-2005, 04:02 PM
kaf7878 - on the sweat issue, which is a big one in arkansas, I use a baby rag tucked into the waist of my running shorts. It is small and soft. I also wear a terrycloth visor.

Lynn - Phil does Med/Peds. We have really just gotten into the adventure races. He started rock climbing in his last year of residency. Before that, he had an occasional weight lift program. Now he is able to keep a pretty good schedule. he generally lifts several times/week and mt. bikes single track at least once/week. We can kayak as a family (meaning with the boy) so we do that during the week. He tries to climb a couple of times a month. He does not really like to run and is not supposed to because of a previous ankle injury, but he usually does that a couple of times a week when we are getting ready for a big adventure race. In residency, it would have been a ton harder to keep up that schedule. Now he has one day where he does not see clinic patients (tues) so that is a good day to work out. I think 3 and 4 yr. of med school was pretty good as far as time. I'll bet if you asked him about residency and time, in addition to payoff, he would probably choose family medicine rather than med/peds. he now works in a family med clinic and is on the same pay scale. The residency would have been 1yr shorter and much less time consuming! All I can tell you about it is that I'm glad he is out of residency!!!! :Pinkbounc

princessmomma
09-20-2005, 04:47 PM
Lisa, thanks for all the info about getting around for a families on race day. Sounds like it can get nasty.

I had my 40 minute tempo run today. I wore my new Mizuno waveriders and they felt great. I did 4.4 miles in 40 minutes, that is a new PR for
me. :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc I have a little twinge in my back now, hoping advil, stretching and ice will take care of that.

Must get back to help DS with his homework... 3rd grade homework, blah!!

Colleen

gatorphipps
09-20-2005, 07:54 PM
Christa and Bree - Did you guys run Saturday morning? I passed a couple of runners and one looked like Christa from the picture you posted a few weeks ago. Just wondered if it might have been you guys. I was in Myers Park on the road that cuts through to Providence where the water station is around 8:15 or so.
Susan - How bout those Panthers! :banana: We ran on Friday, but that is where we run. Do you do your LRs on Saturday? I run the LRs with Bree and my DH. I have actually lost about 20 lbs since that picture was taken. :cool1: Hope to see you sometime.

Ran 3 today in 27 min. Do not have the splits b/c I am poor and do not own a Garmin (I call it a Grimlin :rotfl: ). Will bike or swim easy tomorrow b/c of LRs.
Christa

skfulkers
09-20-2005, 07:58 PM
Hey everybody! I haven't posted in awhile, so I thought I'd let everyone know I was still alive. I know Krista has been posting quite a bit and I see my name mentioned every once in awhile in her posts, but I still feel bad that I haven't kept up with the boards and everyone's progress lately. From the looks of this week's/last week's threads, it looks like everyone is moving along pretty well. Good job!

Well, I'm back running again after nursing my knee injury for a few weeks. I'm in week 3 of my training program, and I seem to be able to run without too much pain in the knee (as long as I don't push it too hard on hills). I've been doing a lot of strength training for my legs, so I think that helps. And I've become close friends with the ice pack. :)

Is it just me, or is it getting more exciting as the weeks tick away to January? Especially now that most everyone has started some sort of official training. And are we the only ones who have already decided on our entire wardrobes for race day?

David and Denise--welcome! I'm sure you'll find this is a great group of people here. Six months ago, I never would have thought I'd be planning to meet a group of total strangers in WDW for at least one get-together dinner and possibly more, but these guys really are a great bunch.

Ok, I'm not going to post too much since I don't have any extraordinary stories to tell (unlike Krista who manages to skin up her entire leg falling on completely flat stretches of road). :) Hope everyone is having a great week and happy training!

Oh, and by the way--sorry Craig, but I was THRILLED to see the Patriots lose this weekend. Too bad that'll be two losses in a row for them since they face my boys this coming weekend. ;)

Steve

princessmomma
09-20-2005, 08:44 PM
And I've become close friends with the ice pack. :)
Steve

LOL, welcome to my world. I have been spending more time stretching and icing than I am running. Is it suppose to be that way??

Good to hear from you Steve, keep up the good work, and keep Krista from hurting herself. ;)

Christa, great pace on the three miler. It must have felt like a walk in the park for you!

Solo, glad you got the Garmin working again!

David and Denise, welcome! Come by here often, it is really a good place to be!

Sunny, I hope you get rested up! You have really done great in past few weeks. As everyone says, you are amazing, I wish I had your willpower.

Colleen

Lisa loves Pooh
09-20-2005, 09:12 PM
So a couple questions--how do you guys keep sweat from dripping into your eyes while running. This was a BIG issue for me at the half in January--I think I was blind most of the race!

Second question, do you use a "fanny" pack while running?? I need to use one since I'm running outdoors to hold my keys and cell phone (while DD is in nursury). The pack is constantly moving, chafing, bouncing, etc. Anyone have a solution for this???

I wipe it on any material that will reach my face...sports bra strap if I have to.

I used a fanny pack...I tighten it as tight as possible to minimize the chafing and practiced with it in all outdoor runs in excess of 4 miles. I also wear the pack part in the back...and then just rotate it up front when I need something.

Using body glide on sensitive areas will help reduce/eliminate chafing.

keenercam
09-20-2005, 09:29 PM
Hi, David & Denise! Welcome! Sounds like you guys are definitely gonna be running with the big dogs! You are going to love it here. Everyone is so incredibly supportive and full of helpful information, regardless of your level of performance. Looking forward to seeing you guys around here!

Tiger Lily 03
09-20-2005, 10:10 PM
Hi WISH Team!

Whoo Hooo! Lots of folks checking in! Can't wait til everyone comes back to the fold!

Sorry to all those who are nursing injuries. Hey! Be careful! No injuries now.

Welcome to the newbies. Glad you can join in. Looking forward to hear of your progress.

Everyone is making great progress. I loved catching up on things.

I won't address everyone, but a couple of things really stuck in my mind.

Cam, what great progress. I think you have it all going the right way now.

Lisa, as always, thanks for your wealth of information. I guess I will have to suggest to family that they will not want to see me pass by them at BW. I didn't realize it would be so near the finish by then.

Sunny, wow! you are on a major exercise program. I am amazed. I think I would be dead by now if I tried all that.

Same thing for all you doing all those super long bikes, swims, runs....

For those who asked, I am doing my first full marathon...I think. I am actually now registered for both half and full in case I need the security of the half. DS is definitely doing the half, definitely that is unless he bails on that one now too.

Who is asking for the HR info. I train with my monitor ALL the time. I train well in the high range for me. Old lady that I am, if I go according to the HR formula of 220 minus age and 80% I think I would be going snail's pace. I figure that I am doing the slow mode as I do the LRs however. I train at a higher rate during my week shorter runs. I think that basic info is in many of the books that we have linked here at WISH.

I went tonight for a 4 miler and did a nice job I am thinking. I pressed up a bit for me...ok all you quick ones look the other way...I did 4.21 miles in 55:40! For me, that is great! I also need to get a lot more dedicated. I have found that after reviewing my calendar log that I have really slipped in my training. I hope to have a better handle on this now. My head is back in the game I think.

More later, have fun training! We can do it!

TXBelle
09-20-2005, 10:54 PM
Keeping a close eye on Hurricane Rita. It looks like my long run may not happen this weekend. Today I rode 6.4 miles on the stationary bike. Tomorrow is a rest day. If the hurricane continues to make a B-line for Houston, I will be headed out of town by Friday. :moped:

aladdinsgirl
09-21-2005, 08:41 AM
Heather--Be careful!!!! :wizard: That you stay safe!

Denise & David--Welcome!! :wave: You'll be so glad that you found these boards.

Lily--Awesome pace on your 4 miles! Are you going Goofy?

Thanks everyone for your well wishes, I hate it that I'm such a klutz! When I was a little girl my parents were so frustrated with me because I would always fall and skinned up my knees and in the process scratched up the lens on my glasses. My poor parents had to replace so many pairs of glasses! :goodvibes I didn't run Monday or Tuesday, although I probably could have ran last night, but I choose to plan out our Disney vacation instead. :teeth: 31 days from now Stephen and I will be on the plane headed to WDW!! :cheer2:

Happy training, everyone and STAY SAFE!!! ;)

Krista princess:

Minnie
09-21-2005, 09:39 AM
Hi everyone!

I'm back from the land of no training as I am now able to sit and walk with no pain the ole sciatica or pain in the hinny is really a pain in the hinny :rotfl2:

Last night I wogged for 30 minutes as per my training plan. Yes it is actually time to start the real training plan so I am motivated to get my hinny off the couch :rotfl:

Question - Does anyone know of good stretching exercises for the sciatica? During my wog last night the walk section was fine but the jog brought back the pain which was pretty severe. Any ideas?

Tonight is a cross train day and I plan to go golfing with some friends. This really works the sciatica so we'll see how it goes.

Happy training everyone :goodvibes

keenercam
09-21-2005, 09:43 AM
Hi WISH Team!


I won't address everyone, but a couple of things really stuck in my mind.

Cam, what great progress. I think you have it all going the right way now.

. . . . .

More later, have fun training! We can do it!

Thank you so much, Lily! So glad you are back, and so glad to hear that you are doing great! That pace ROCKS!!! :cool1:

I am really excited to have hit my sub-15:00 pace and am so determined to keep it there while I add miles. Am worried that when I start the MFM plan on 10/2, I might be taking a step backwards. But I think I am going to do the "walk the half" plan, but do it with some jogging intervals. The walk/run plan is too strenuous for me, so this might be a good compromise.

Minnie
09-21-2005, 09:45 AM
TXBelle - I noticed you asked if anyone else is planning to r/w the 1/2 marathon - Well that's my plan. My asthma and knee won't allow a continual run at this point so a wogging I will go. I am following Jeff Galloway's plan that incorporates walk breaks.

Calcio
09-21-2005, 11:41 AM
Steve

That's cool, I do watch a little football, including the patsies, but my true passion is the true football, oddly called soccer here.

My daughter and I have season's tickets to the NE REvolution (also owned by the Kraft family) on the field, literally 2 meters from the sideline. When you're that close you really appreciate the speed and technical skill of the game at the professional level.

We also have been able to watch the U.S. Men's National Team play 4 times this year, and the game at that level is so much faster and more skilled.

If you heckled me about my beloved US Men losing, I would not take that well at all. I'm hoping or praying to get tickets for Germany in 2006 so I can travel and watch the World Cup matches.



Kaf7878

I wear a running hat, which you can buy at any good running store. They are cool max, so they breathe, and the band keeps the sweat from pouring into my eyes. If it's hot and humid like this year I'll also wear a big wrist band so I can wipe the area around my eyes with it. I run in my contacts, so it's really key to keep the sweat out.

Cam

You're great on pace, sub-15 minutes is gold, creating lots of cushion with the sweeper. Now build that distance!

My training? Pretty darn good these days. 9.5 last Friday, and some mile repeats at 8:40 pace yesterday. Hope to get 10 Saturday morning. I'd feel smug about this, but my wife is already out to 10.8 on her last long run. She's a machine, running precisely the same pace on all of her long runs.

2 weeks from tomorrow we're off to WDW for the Run for the Taste 10K. The course is very similar to the last 10K of the marathon, so I'll literally get a "taste" of what I'm facing on January 8.

Craig

perfectmatch300
09-21-2005, 11:42 AM
Time for me to start getting back on some kind of training program! Most of our move is done. Just some clean-up at the old house and one last box to move, but still a LOT of unpacking and organizing to do here!

TiffJ, hope you're not a packrat like both DH and I are! We managed to get rid of a lot of "stuff" 2 years ago before we moved from CT to FL, but we still have a lot we can't seem to part with! The one thing I can suggest that helped was starting to pack early!

Lily, it was great seeing you and DH while you were here! I'm really impressed that you kept up your wogging even while you were at WDW!

Cam, I am so impressed with your improvement! I think we were at about the same pace when you started and, well, I'm still pretty much there! I mean, I have improves some, but no where near as much as you have. Hopefully I will get a little faster now that I am almost through with the distraction of moving.

Heather and anyone else in Rita's path - stay safe!

Time to get back to the boxes. Walked about 2 miles last night. Plan to get out there again tonight. I'm trying to let DH set the pace because he naturally walks at the pace I'd like to be going. :sunny:

solotraveler
09-21-2005, 06:56 PM
Ugh.... :guilty:

Is anyone else out these getting bored with running yet?? (Anyone?? Just me?? OK...) For some reason, I could NOT get excited to run today. I really wanted to exersice and EVERYTHING sounded good-- weights, stairclimbing, swimming, biking-- everything EXCEPT running. I manage to get out the door but I cut it short after about 20 minutes. I just felt sore and I could seem to... get my brain into it, maybe?? I used to get really psyched about the idea of getting out there and getting my run in, but now.... not so much. I figure I have about 36 hours to get myself really psyched up for my 8-miler Friday. Right now, the idea makes me want to take a nap :)

Everyone looks like they are doing SO WELL right now. Keep up the good work!

Happy training everyone!
Solotraveler :earsboy:

kathcoll
09-21-2005, 07:10 PM
Hi everyone!

Question - Does anyone know of good stretching exercises for the sciatica? During my wog last night the walk section was fine but the jog brought back the pain which was pretty severe. Any ideas?

:goodvibes
Actually the sciatic is a nerve and you don't stretch nerves. You can stretch hip, back, and gluteus muscles to help you!
Most of the ileotibial band (ITB) stretches work this area - you can do a google search for dozens of pages to stretch this area.
Try the one listed here - its one of the most often recommended!http://walking.about.com/cs/fitnesswalking/l/blexhipstretch.htm

or look at thestretches on the right of this list - http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/HipsWt.html
kath

plutosmyfav
09-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Ugh.... :guilty:

Is anyone else out these getting bored with running yet??

oh I've been there (and will be back no doubt). Actually, many times when I hit that "dread" zone there's a burst of performance just around the corner... Be patient! You'll get your love back :love:

In the mean time, Just Do It (Nike paid me to say that :earboy2: )

I did 6.1 miles on the TM today. I guess it was a tempo run. I spent 30 minutes in the middle at 6.8 mph. Back pain is gone. Yahoo!

Sunny

kaf7878
09-22-2005, 07:25 AM
Solo, YES, I definately get bored of running!!! I'm okay right now since I just started back after injury but I know the feeling well. When training for the half this past January, I used to dread some of my runs, esp. long ones. The key is to just do it anyway--you feel awesome afterwards! It definately helps to think of yourself in training vs just running for fun.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-22-2005, 07:27 AM
Question - Does anyone know of good stretching exercises for the sciatica? During my wog last night the walk section was fine but the jog brought back the pain which was pretty severe. Any ideas?


If it originates in your glute area...a good stretch for your tushy...and the side of your leg....

While standing (and possibly holding on to something)....bend one leg and rest the other foot on your thigh...and mimic a sitting motion (legs will not be crossed ladylike..but manlike is the best way to describe it). Switch and do other leg.

princessmomma
09-22-2005, 09:03 AM
While standing (and possibly holding on to something)....bend one leg and rest the other foot on your thigh...and mimic a sitting motion (legs will not be crossed ladylike..but manlike is the best way to describe it). Switch and do other leg.


I like doing a version of the stretch above...

stand facing a bed and with your right leg crossed or bent in a man-like fashion, place it on the bed. Your left leg is still on the floor. Be sure your right leg is bent at this 90 degree angle and lying entirely on the bed. Bend over and stretch, I seem to be able to relax the glut muscle more and increase the fexibility.

Jodi
09-22-2005, 10:28 AM
Hey Guys

Real Quick, anyone that's flying from Hartford for the marathon that doesn't have tix yet, Southwest has tix for $45 one way up until Jan 9th!!!

Awesome rate, too bad I already bought mine w/ flysong.

BUT HURRY!! The rate's only good until 1p.m. EST

Jodi

DavidandDenise
09-22-2005, 11:02 AM
Thank you all for the nice welcomes! I knew we wouldn't get anything less from fellow Dis'ers. :sunny: I'm always on the Dis, but I've only lurked on the marathon threads. I guess, as DH said, I'll post now that he "broke the ice". Everyone is doing so well; you can't help but to get inspired here. :Pinkbounc Those of you who are getting bored may want to consider music (if you don't already listen and run). Our IPOD Shuffles have been the greatest running purchase we've made since new shoes and ibuprophen! :rotfl: Those little pills are :wizard: !

Anyway, DH and I went for a 6 mile run last night. Our route actually took us 6.1. We both felt great (it took me a mile and a half, but I felt great after that!).

David - 6.1 miles - 45:40 total time - 7:30 pace
Denise - 6.1 miles - 49:52 total time - 8:11 pace

We're both pleased with this, but I would like to get back down to 8:00 min. pace on these shorter runs. Our training schedule calls for a 12-14 mile run Sat. morning--we're both shooting for 14; I'll post again after that run. We just run 4 tomorrow.

Keep up the great work everyone! :flower:

wtpclc
09-22-2005, 11:43 AM
Hi all! It's been a wild week. I've gotten all my trainig in so far. Today is my hardest day. 45 min after doing 40 plus form running last night kills me.

Then, we go for 8 on Saturday. Yikes! This is where things start scaring me!

solo - FYI, I'm never really excited to run. I just love the feeling after a good run!

TEK224
09-22-2005, 12:29 PM
Getting started for me is the hardest part. Running has never been my fave, but I'm trying to change that.

Even when I get started, I think about cutting my run short. I keep talking to convince myself to keep going. Sometimes I feel like the cartoon where the devil is on one shoulder telling me to stop and take it easy and the angel is on the other encouraging me to keep going. Happens on almost every run.

I figure once my body gets used to running these distances and I build up more stamina, it would be as bad. Until then, I just try to knock that devil off my shoulder. :teeth:

Terri

aladdinsgirl
09-23-2005, 08:10 AM
Good morning everyone!! :sunny: Happy Friday!!! :banana: I am so looking forward to this weekend, I have nothing going on and I'm so excited. All I have to do this weekend is a 5 mile run tomorrow, church on Sunday, and the Steelers game at 4:15. GO STEELERS!!!!! :cheer2: :cheer2:

Let me tell you about my run (well walk/run) last night. It was miserable. I just never got comfortable--when I was walking, it felt like I was crawling and when I was running it felt like I was being clumsy and my ankles were killing me. I almost stop twice, but I did end up finishing my 40 minutes. So I stopped my Garmin at 40 minutes and looked at my milage (I never look at milage when I run during the week, only minutes) and imagine my surprise when I saw that I did 3.38 miles!!! I went into the history to check my pace, I was doing 11:50 miles!! :cheer2: :cheer2: I was so excited, the run I thought was horrible, really wasn't that bad after all. :rotfl:

Solo--I know what you mean about getting tired of running. Some days I love to get out there and go and other days I hate it and I'm miserable the whole time. But nothing can replace the feeling of accomplishment I have when I'm finished. Finishing a 5K feels great, what's it going to be like to finish a half (or a full) marathon?? :goodvibes On my days when I feel bad I just tell myself "just put one foot in front of the other"--giving myself that little pep talk really seems to help.

Mel--I was watching NFL Blitz last night. All I have to say about "Cadillac" Williams is WOW!!! :earseek: You must be so excited to have him!!

MelR--Good luck on your adventure ride this weekend! Stay safe and :wizard: that you don't die!! Tell us all about it on Monday or Tuesday or whenever you get out of bed! :teeth:

Well, I better start working, it's the joy of my life. :rolleyes: Happy training and stay safe!!

Krista princess:

wtpclc
09-23-2005, 08:35 AM
Great job Krista! I was not having an easy time last night either, but my pace was less than fabulous too. This is teh first time I have done all 3 runs during the week and my XT. XT afgain tonight and then 8 tomorrow.

I wish I had your weekend Krista. I have a humane society fundraiser from 9 to 1. Run home shower and teach a scrapbooking clss at 3. Then come home and run 8. Yikes! I'm supposed to go to a party at 6, but it's 40 minutes away and there's no way you'll get me out of teh house when I come home from the run! Sunday will most definitely be a rest day. Well, rest and laundy day.

Good luck to every one!

plutosmyfav
09-23-2005, 08:54 AM
Great job Krista

David & Denise-- you are a couple of gazelles! Great paces.

I did hill work last night. A total of 4.6 miles, 3 sets of hills: 3 minutes at 3% (6.5 mph), 3 minutes at 5% (6.0 mph) followed by 5 minutes 0% at 6.0mph, the second two sets I kept the speed at 6.0mph for the 3%. It was hard but I felt strong. I'm doing short long run tomorrow (12 miles) since my Half is next Saturday. Hopefully DD will want to wog, too.

Happy LRs to all :flower:

MelR :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: what more can I say??????

Sunny

chimera
09-23-2005, 09:13 AM
:dog2: Welcome DavidandDenise! :dog2:

Just a quickie today! Stonker on Mon, but we've had 3 days now of rain/cloud cover from Rita, so not as hot and nasty! Wed was much better.

We're traveling all weekend. DD12 has a soccer tournament in Clearwater with games tonight, tomorrow and Sunday :scared1: .

Need some advice, please.

I'm on my second wk of wk 5 of MFM W/R the half. The long 'run' for this week is supposed to be 3 miles at W3/R1. Last week, I did a long 'run' of 4 miles at W3/R1, so was planning to do 5 miles this week since wk 6 increases to a 6 mile long 'run' next week. But I have a 5K tomorrow morning. I was thinking about doing the 5 miles today, then going ahead with an easy 5K tomorrow. Or should I not worry about the 5 miles? I'm a little nervous about jumping up to 6 miles next week when I've only done 3.5 a day this week. My last 5-miler was two weeks ago.

I hope that makes sense :teeth:

keenercam
09-23-2005, 09:37 AM
Hey Guys

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Awesome rate, too bad I already bought mine w/ flysong.

BUT HURRY!! The rate's only good until 1p.m. EST

Jodi

Hey, Jodi -- thanks for the heads-up on this yesterday. Even though I am flying from PHL, you inspired me to check the rates, and I was able to change to an internet special rate and get a $40 credit toward my next set of tickets. Thanks! :goodvibes: :hug:

wtpclc
09-23-2005, 10:02 AM
:dog2: Welcome DavidandDenise! :dog2:

Just a quickie today! Stonker on Mon, but we've had 3 days now of rain/cloud cover from Rita, so not as hot and nasty! Wed was much better.

We're traveling all weekend. DD12 has a soccer tournament in Clearwater with games tonight, tomorrow and Sunday :scared1: .

Need some advice, please.

I'm on my second wk of wk 5 of MFM W/R the half. The long 'run' for this week is supposed to be 3 miles at W3/R1. Last week, I did a long 'run' of 4 miles at W3/R1, so was planning to do 5 miles this week since wk 6 increases to a 6 mile long 'run' next week. But I have a 5K tomorrow morning. I was thinking about doing the 5 miles today, then going ahead with an easy 5K tomorrow. Or should I not worry about the 5 miles? I'm a little nervous about jumping up to 6 miles next week when I've only done 3.5 a day this week. My last 5-miler was two weeks ago.

I hope that makes sense :teeth:
Mel - Stick to the plan. It has not failed us yet. If it only says 3 this week, but you've done 4 before, you will be fine. DH and I went through the first 8 weeks of w/r the half without a problem. (OK, we always made the distance. It was not always fun, but we always did it) Then we did the first 8 of r/w the half no problem. So far, it has not failed us. Do an easy 5k and call it good. Did you increase your w/r time or ratio during the week this week. Usually when you do that, you ease up on the long run. Remeber, you do not want to increase more than 10% of your total miles during the week. Also, if you look at the schedle, it tends to bouce back and forth from an all time long run to a relatively short run the next week. HTH!

keenercam
09-23-2005, 11:28 AM
Hi, everyone! Glad to hear all the training that is happening, even if some the runs, walks, and wogs are "stonkers"! :teeth:

Not much time to do much this week, but I was able to do a mile on the crosstrainer last night in less than 13 minutes! I know it is not the same as running, but I've never had the stamina for that pace before.

Crazy busy weekend ahead starting with a 5:30 am jaunt to school tomorrow to help set up and run a pancake breakfast and ending with an 8:30 pm Broadway show Sunday night to benefit Katrina victims (still cannot believe we are driving to NY for a Sunday night show -- I'll be a zombie at work Monday). But so excited about all of it! Hoping to get in a long wog Sunday morning before coming in to work for a few hours. Wish I had the nerve to try to walk to my office -- maybe someday.

Have a great training weekend, everyone! My MFM plan starts 10/2 -- I am actually very excited about getting it underway!

TXBelle
09-23-2005, 09:03 PM
Just checking in to let everyone know that we are doing fine in Houston. The wind has started and the rain should start soon. We feel very lucky because it looks like the hurricane is going to miss us. We decided to stay put, and we are glad that we did. I will try to check in tomorrow and provide another update.

aladdinsgirl
09-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Heather--Glad that you are safe! I'll be praying for you and everyone in TX.

Carrie--Wow! Busy weekend--hope you get everything done. I'd love to see your scrapbooks, I scrapbook too, but I haven't been as faithful with it as I'd like to be. I think I'm still back in 2003!! :teeth:

I just back from a 5 mile run. It was a pretty good run, I felt great the entire time and I really think I could have gone further. It took me about a mile to get into a rhythm, but once I got that down I was fine. I finished in 1:03 and my pace was 12:43--that's about 50 seconds slower than my tempo runs, but I'm thinking that's about right for a long run.

Happy training everyone!!

Krista princess:

Lisa loves Pooh
09-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Oh boy a stonker today---twice over the bridge....ran for about 1:40 with a 4:1 w/r interval. ETA: 7.75 miles.

Knee problems meant walking up the bridge the first time--which was killer for the tummy--last nights food not settling well. Way later on..I moved my water holder belt to rest on my rib cage and that feeling went away. Took a few more walk breaks than expected and pacing is not wear I like it--but when you walk that is what happens to the runners pace :).

I think my pace is 13:45 (extra walking and twice across the bridge RT which is a total of 4 crossings). Icing right now--so can't go check the Garmin.

I am going to resort myself to being a Penguin I thought--the running harder/faster stuff is just too hard on my body. I'm not a fast person. Darn physique!

Envious of all you sub-10:00 speedies! ( I would have said speedos---but well...you know... ;)).

TiffJ
09-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Well I did it. I have officially finished my first race ever. And I got my Garmin yesterday just in time for the race. I did a 5K & finished in 46 min (garmin says I went 3.18 miles) Avg pace was 14.30 min/mile. I'll take that. Now that I've done my first I think I am officially overwhelmed with having to go 10 miles further than I went today :earseek: What have I gotten myself into!?

Well-got to go clean the house & other fun stuff.

Hope all of you on the Texas Gulf coast are staying safe!

Happy training everyone!

keenercam
09-24-2005, 12:41 PM
Well I did it. I have officially finished my first race ever. And I got my Garmin yesterday just in time for the race. I did a 5K & finished in 46 min (garmin says I went 3.18 miles) Avg pace was 14.30 min/mile. I'll take that. Now that I've done my first I think I am officially overwhelmed with having to go 10 miles further than I went today :earseek: What have I gotten myself into!?

Well-got to go clean the house & other fun stuff.

Hope all of you on the Texas Gulf coast are staying safe!

Happy training everyone!

Congratulations, Tiff! Awesome, awesome job! Great pace, too! You have to be so proud of yourself for doing that your first time out! Dont' forget we have about 15 weeks or so to build our endurance! Enjoy the accomplishment! :goodvibes

kathcoll
09-24-2005, 01:57 PM
Today I did the Quantico Marine Corps 1/2 marathon as a training run for the MCM. It was an experience I wouldn't repeat anytime soon - the course is nothing but hills - some gentle rolling, some steep...not a flat spot on the course! To make matters worse, the race is run without street closures - granted there wasn't much traffic on the Marine base this morning, but racewalking on the shoulder of the road, with slanted shoulders and cracked blacktop and all those hills...My ITB is speaking evil things to me right now. As I sit here I am icing my thighs and soaking my feet....
But my time was fairly good - I don't have official results yet but my Garmin results said I did 13.27 miles in 2 hours 51 minutes - a 12:54 pace.
And I'm that many more steps closer to Goofy!
kath

TEK224
09-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Way to go!

Terri

TXBelle
09-24-2005, 09:56 PM
Way to go Kath! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: The Goofy is almost yours!

Great job Tiff on your first race! :banana: :banana: You will be ready for the half in January, just keep training.

We made it through Hurricane Rita with no problems. The Houston area was very lucky. We lost power for 12 hours, but it was no big deal.

With the cooler temps that Rita brought, I was able to run 5 miles tonight. I had a steady pace and finished in 1:10. :cool1:

chimera
09-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Come join us for a new week!

Week of Sep 25 - 2006 Half-Full Marathon Info/Training Thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=10040602#post10040602)