Who just saw Kanye West on the NBC Concert for Hurricane Relief???

[Divamomto3]

He was standing with Mike Myers and they had a script they were supposed to be reading from and suddenly KanYe West started going off on how horrible the whole handling of the situation was....how the world doesn't care about black people, how the rest of the country needs to send money to the poorest stuck down there, and then at the end he yells "George Bush doesn't care about Black People!!" Mike Myers looked like he was going to fall over and they cut away quick to a different speaker. Aaron Neville sang a second song where KanYe would have sung.

I know we are all entitled to our opinion, but a Red Cross Telethon is not the place.

[drgnfly30]

He was standing with Mike Myers and they had a script they were supposed to be reading from and suddenly KanYe West started going off on how horrible the whole handling of the situation was....how the world doesn't care about black people, how the rest of the country needs to send money to the poorest stuck down there, and then at the end he yells "George Bush doesn't care about Black People!!" Mike Myers looked like he was going to fall over and they cut away quick to a different speaker. Aaron Neville sang a second song where KanYe would have sung.

I know we are all entitled to our opinion, but a Red Cross Telethon is not the place.

Posted this on another thread but it was like watching a train wreck!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I was getting the kids into bed and missed that.

I knew it was trouble when he brought up the pictures. Which someone posted yesterday--that upon further research...was not a ploy by Yahoo after all...that the one photo--the people really did find the food.

[babar]

I hope he can get his foot out of his mouth when he realizes how much aid the American people and the rest of the world are giving. :rolleyes:

yes, i know it was out of my emotion, my first emotion when I heard it was anger at him and I don't even know why!!

I just don't think right then was the time for it.

[Divamomto3]

It was the worst thing I've ever seen. It made my sister so nervous her heart started pounding. LOL. It was uncalled for. He did not look good.

[tiggersmom2]

He made himself look like a first class jerk!

[Nancy]

Rants like that will really encourage people to donate!

[stacy347]

I think I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after watching that :( Poor Mike Myers.

[mom2boys]

He did so much damage to the relief effort. It is such a shame.

[TTFN]

Cut the guy a break....emotions are high and he (and a lot of others) feel that the poorest of the poor have been disproportionately harmed in this catastrophe. He may have chosen a harsh way to speak his mind, and perhaps even an inappropriate forum, but if that's the worst thing you've ever seen you haven't seen the images I've seen the last few days!

[WebmasterKathy]

I thought Mike Myers handled it well. He kept a very neutral expression and stayed quiet. No way I would have been able to do that! :sad2:

[Pugdog007]

I'll bet the other celebrities that put their heart and soul into the relief concert would like to kick his butt. Disastrous and not likely to encourage donations.

[MinnieM3]

Posted a thread on this, too. My eyes popped right outta my head! :earseek:

[Nancy]

Cut the guy a break....emotions are high and he (and a lot of others) feel that the poorest of the poor have been disproportionately harmed in this catastrophe. He may have chosen a harsh way to speak his mind, and perhaps even an inappropriate forum, but if that's the worst thing you've ever seen you haven't seen the images I've seen the last few days!


sorry...he doesn't deserve a break, that was totally uncalled for. There are many who feel the same way but a fundraiser is NOT the place for outbursts. I really hope his outburst did not stop people from donating.

[lizanne]

I felt bad for Mike Myers. He handled it well though

[beattyfamily]

:rolleyes: It was horrible. I couldn't believe it. So the false info Yahoo photos really got around, huh?

It's such a shame he had to do that at a fund raising event. :sad2:

[Jen D]

Watching someone lose their temper on live tv is never comfortable, but on the list of shocking things I've seen on television this week, I'd put this one at, oh, number 789. :rolleyes1

[Hillbeans]

Two words:

Dixie Chicks

[Lessa of Pern]

I understand his frustration and his anger, but his rant was not appropriate..and I'm glad they cut away from him when they did. Matt Lauer, always the gentleman, had very calm and soothing words about "emotions running high".

[Shutterbug]

What concert? all I'm getting on NBC is Dateline :confused3

[Divamomto3]

What concert? all I'm getting on NBC is Dateline :confused3

It was on from 8-9pm EST

[lovingthemouse]

My husband, daughter and I were watching and although we understand how disastrous all these newscasts have been, this was not the forum to make the comments he did. We hoped, also, that more donations were not withheld as a result of his statement. It is easy for emotions to run high, but choose words wisely!

[Pete's Mom]

Two words:

Dixie Chicks Yup! ::yes::

[luvmy2sams]

Two words:

Dixie Chicks

:rotfl2: Who? :)

[Sirius]

Maybe he should have said "poor black people."

[Mickey Mouse Kid]

I was so suprised when he said that 0_0

[tiggersmom2]

Maybe he should have said "poor black people."

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[snowiit]

Cut the guy a break....emotions are high and he (and a lot of others) feel that the poorest of the poor have been disproportionately harmed in this catastrophe. He may have chosen a harsh way to speak his mind, and perhaps even an inappropriate forum, but if that's the worst thing you've ever seen you haven't seen the images I've seen the last few days!

I agree somewhat... emotions do run high.. but I copied this from the web..


While allowing that "the Red Cross is doing everything they can," West — who delivered an emotional outburst at the American Music Awards after he was snubbed for an award — declared that government authorities are intentionally dragging their feet on aid to the Gulf Coast. Without getting specific, he added, "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

that is just BIZARRE and uncalled for! I was suprised that no one had remarked on this statement of his. I looked at my 20 yr old daughter who was watching with me and said.. WHAT?????? I couldn't believe my ears.
Nancy

[sotoalf]

I'm glad he said it. It made a perfectly inoffensive liberal broadcast that much more tense. He rubbed the most galling subtext in people's faces and made the sanctimonious doners think twice. It's about time an entertainer pissed somebody off. Better Kanye West, whose great new album chronicles the paradoxes of being an entertainer caught between satisfying hip-hop stereotypes and white ideas about hip-hop stereotypes, than the bland Harry Connick, Jr and Mike Meyers.

Your children SHOULD be watching. This is reality.

[MagicKingdom05]

I agree. What he said was uncalled for in that type of forum. If he wanted to say something like that, he should have called a press conference and done it that way.

[Free4Life11]

I had to work but I DVR'd this...may have to fast forward to see it.

[HappyMommy2]

I sincerely hope that, as inappropriate as it was for this man to blow his top at a fundraiser, absolutely no one will be in any way deterred from making their donation. I can't imagine how anyone could be so shallow as to withold a donation from people who are obviously in great need just because they are offended by one spokesperson's comments.

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

I am very angry with Kanye! What a @&*#@#@). I am mad at myself for buying his CD when it came out Tuesday. I DEFINITELY would not buy it if it came out today.

As I posted earlier I definitely have strong feelings similar to Kanye's, but the forum was entirely inappropriate. I don't think that George Bush "doesn't care about black people." That's rubbish, but I do think a lot of people would care a lot more if it were white people dying. Just my opinion.

However Kayne really made such a divisive statement at a horrible place and time. That REALLY discourages any Republicans or Bush supporters from donating. Kayne DEFINITELY HURT those poor black people that he says Bush doesn't care about.

I'd ask Kanye if he cared about them, because from what he said, he DOES NOT. I'm sure the cause lost thousands upon thousands of dollars of potential contributors who were turned off by his childish rant.

Kayne grew up as a priveliged member of the upper middle class, he does not know these people's plight firsthand.

I really think Kanye is playing himself up as the rapper with a conscience and it is increasingly appearing phony. His CDs, while very good, may have some positive uplifting or social message but it's followed by a song telling girls to get in shape by performing oral sex, etc. Bottom line is he takes himself too seriously.

[tiggersmom2]

I sincerely hope that, as inappropriate as it was for this man to blow his top at a fundraiser, absolutely no one will be in any way deterred from making their donation.


I am sure there are MANY that will not make a donation b/c of this. I can just imagine some old hard-core republicans watching that and being shocked and horrified. I hope people DO look past his asinine ways...but I honestly think he hurt the donation drive.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

NBC issued a statement to the affect of not letting one person who departed from script to overshadow the efforts and intents of the program.

[foolishmortal]

Cut the guy a break....emotions are high and he (and a lot of others) feel that the poorest of the poor have been disproportionately harmed in this catastrophe. He may have chosen a harsh way to speak his mind, and perhaps even an inappropriate forum, but if that's the worst thing you've ever seen you haven't seen the images I've seen the last few days!

You do realize this is also the same Kanye West that blasted the media because he los the grammy for new artist, he made himself look like a fool and a sore loser...so this really doesn't surprise me much.

Listen to one of his main songs..it talks about how he survived a bad beating and look at him now...well yes look at you now..you almost got killed because of your mouth yet it is still running!!!!

[WaltD4Me]

His whole "speech" was bizarre.

Babbling about how he went shopping and he was going to call his business manager? :confused3

[Alaska DogCat]

I'm an affluent white guy and I think he was right on the mark. I've joined Mr. West in giving as much as I can. Kanye is the hero of the day for me!

[AuntieM03]

I wonder if he had any idea that he was going to give his off-script speech. If so, he might want to have rehearsed because unfortunately even if he had a valid point (I don't agree with him) it was lost in his rambling.

[KelNottAt]

It was neither the time nor the place. What a jerk. I had never heard of him before last night. Now I hope I never hear him again at all.

Mike Meyers handled it pretty well.

As for the Dixie Chicks...someone please refresh my memory...didn't they make their rant in front of their own fans at a concert? I don't think it was a fundraiser. Was it? I honestly can't remember.

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

There's a time and a place for everything -- this definitely was not the time and the place for comments like that. The fundraiser should have been for bringing people together, not drive them apart.

I saw it last night, and missed the opening credit for that segment. I don't know who Kanye West is and didn't recognize him. To be perfectly honest, I thought he was a hurricane survivor the producers might have flown in from Houston or somewhere to put a human face on the tragedy. He started rambling and did not sound professional at all, but it was the comment that "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us" that made me think that.

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

As for the Dixie Chicks...someone please refresh my memory...didn't they make their rant in front of their own fans at a concert? I don't think it was a fundraiser. Was it? I honestly can't remember.

IIRC, it was at a concert in England. I don't think it was just that they made a comment about GWB, but that they made the comment overseas.

[Rock'n Robin]

I didn't bother with the concert as I had 4 13 year old girls at a HS football game. I don't recognize him either, although I see DD#1 has "Jesus Walks" on the computer. I can't stand hip-hop. The only clip I saw on the 11 o'clock news was just him saying "George Bush doesn't like black people." I don't think anyone will boycott him or anything. The reason the Dixie Chicks got into trouble is that their core audience (country) is more conservative than usual. I was just thinking of this the other day--DD#1 and DH listen to the country station, and I can't remember the last time I heard a song by them--they were one of the few groups I liked! But the top 40 stations and the urban stations (which I don't listen to anyhow) won't stop playing someone for slamming GW, as their audience is younger and more liberal. They'll probably bump him up further into the rotation.
Robin M.

[Sirius]

People who refuse to donate to hurricane relief because of the comments of one person are extremely shallow and have no compassion for those suffering.

[momof2inPA]

People who refuse to donate to hurricane relief because of the comments of one person are extremely shallow and have no compassion for those suffering.

True. They'll just use his comments as an excuse, "I'm not giving because I don't care about black people. I'm not giving because of Kanye West."

[Mermaid02]

People who refuse to donate to hurricane relief because of the comments of one person are extremely shallow and have no compassion for those suffering.

I agree- those people weren't going to donate anyway. Agree with him or disagree with him, people hit by Katrina still need our help.

[snoopy]

I am sure there are MANY that will not make a donation b/c of this. I can just imagine some old hard-core republicans watching that and being shocked and horrified. I hope people DO look past
his asinine ways...but I honestly think he hurt the donation drive.

If these old hard-core Republicans don't donate because of what some hip hop star said in the heat of emotions, they are a lot more asinine then he could ever be. :crazy2:

Bottom line is there are lots of poor black people that are in a lock down mode and in dire need of help. I'm not sure what forum would have been an appropriate one for this guy to call it like he sees it, this one seems as good as any other. Yes, he might have expressed himself more articulately, but I think his message was one of desperation and truly reflective of the urgency he feels.

[peachgirl]

Bottom line is there are lots of poor black people that are in a lock down mode and in dire need of help.

Bingo!

I'm amazed that while there are still thousands being forced to stay where they are...many of them still not receiving food and water and this is what some want to spend their outrage on???

I note that it has been the main focus of Faux News this morning. While I understand his outrage, he only fed the beast with his comments.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Bottom line is there are lots of poor black people that are in a lock down mode and in dire need of help. I'm not sure what forum would have been an appropriate one for this guy to call it like he sees it, this one seems as good as any other. Yes, he might have expressed himself more articulately, but I think his message was one of desperation and truly reflective of the urgency he feels.

The morning shows

The national news

anything but a forum where you are fundraising to help people.

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

I am SURE this will affect his career. The vast majority of his audience is middle and upper class white kids, a lot of whom like Bush.

And also those who said that it would be so horrible to let this effect whether you donate or not. I am sure that in large part the people who this effected were planning on watching the telecast and were so disgusted that they changed the channel. Therefore, they wouldn't watch any longer and the potential for donation goes through the window. It's not like a conscience decision, "Kayne is an idiot, I don't care about the people suffering anymore." More like "I can't watch this crap anymore!"

[snoopy]

The morning shows

The national news

anything but a forum where you are fundraising to help people.

Obviously his attempt at helping people. He clearly seemed beside himself and wanted to convey a message to people, what better place to make an emotional plea than a fundraiser? There might have been people turned off, but then again, perhaps some were turned on and made the decision to contribute based on his plea.

[babar]

Obviously his attempt at helping people. He clearly seemed beside himself and wanted to convey a message to people, what better place to make an emotional plea than a fundraiser? There might have been people turned off, but then again, perhaps some were turned on and made the decision to contribute based on his plea.


what it did to some people is shock them into thinking about....why are all the poor always mostly minorities, actually mostly african-americans. it sure does seem like nobody cares about them. maybe we should really start looking at things in this country...i know people like to say "oh, the poor are lazy, they don't want to work".....maybe in some cases, but do you really think that's the case for everyone, don't you think there are some deep underlying issues that need to be brought to the surface no matter how uncomfortable? I do.

But i still say it was the wrong forum to bring it up, while I can see why he did it, it took focus away.

[Mermaid02]

I am SURE this will affect his career. The vast majority of his audience is middle and upper class white kids, a lot of whom like Bush.

And also those who said that it would be so horrible to let this effect whether you donate or not. I am sure that in large part the people who this effected were planning on watching the telecast and were so disgusted that they changed the channel. Therefore, they wouldn't watch any longer and the potential for donation goes through the window. It's not like a conscience decision, "Kayne is an idiot, I don't care about the people suffering anymore." More like "I can't watch this crap anymore!"

I don't think this will affect his career at all.

While some may have turned the channel- if they were going to give to that particular charity and didn't- I'm sure they will give to another fund to help the people devestated by Katrina. If they said, "To heck with it, I'm not giving ANYWHERE because of Kanye West." They are idiots and REALLY didn't WANT to give anyway. Let them keep their money- I hope they enjoy it in hell.

[LoraJ]

I don't think this will affect his career at all.

While some may have turned the channel- if they were going to give to that particular charity and didn't- I'm sure they will give to another fund to help the people devestated by Katrina. If they said, "To heck with it, I'm not giving ANYWHERE because of Kanye West." They are idiots and REALLY didn't WANT to give anyway. Let them keep their money- I hope they enjoy it in hell.


Exactly!!!!!

And this is giving the charity event more publicity. Maybe it will actually get people who weren't planning on donating to do so.

[Mermaid02]

Exactly!!!!!

And this is giving the charity event more publicity. Maybe it will actually get people who weren't planning on donating to do so.

Yeah! Let's all prove Kanye wrong! America DOES care! Black, white, blue, green, yellow, young, old, sick, well, poor, middle class, rich.... we need to help those who right now CAN'T help themselves. They have no "bootstraps" to pull themselves up by.

[wvrevy]

:rolleyes: Can't believe people actually think this will hurt his career. Since when has disrespecting the powers that be ever hurt a musician's career ? Other than a country artist, at least, and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal if it hadn't been an election year where the redneck contingent needed someone to make into a bad guy. Sorry, but he won't even see a blip in sales, unless it's upwards.

You could tell he was off the script when he started talking and Mike Myers got this look like, "Oh, crap...what's going on?!?" :rotfl: Hey, I hope it actually starts a serious discussion about race in this country. We could certainly use it, particularly considering the current Supreme Court nominee seems to think that it's not necessary.

[theSurlyMermaid]

To show how throroughly unhip I am, I had NO CLUE who Kanye West was (I've heard the name, but didn't recognize him because I am quite sure he doesn't ordinarily dress that way). As he was rambling on, I thought, "That cannot be the script!" and I felt bad for shellshocked Mike Myers, who did a very good job holding it together.

I didn't feel his comments were appropriate in that forum, but I don't hold it against Kanye. He's obviously emotional and upset, like many people. I hope I don't know the type of person who would withhold a contribution on the basis of that rant. If so, I need to reevaluate my friends!

[LindsayDunn228]

I flipped it on and watched a few minutes of it right when Harry was finishing up. Then went to Myers and Kanye. I sat there with my mouth open. As my grandmother would say, "Poor guy can't say s*** with his mouth full." He stumbled and stuttered through the whole segment. Apparently I turned it off right before he pitched his fit.

[MosMom]

I want to see a clip of it just to see the look on Mike Myers face.

[Nancy]

I don't think this will affect his career at all.

While some may have turned the channel- if they were going to give to that particular charity and didn't- I'm sure they will give to another fund to help the people devestated by Katrina. If they said, "To heck with it, I'm not giving ANYWHERE because of Kanye West." They are idiots and REALLY didn't WANT to give anyway. Let them keep their money- I hope they enjoy it in hell.

Off topic a bit but in response to one of your statements..about people not wanting to donate (which is their right I guess).

We are a collection site for the red cross, so we are asking each and everyone of our customers if they want to donate $1.00 (yep only 1.00) to the hurricane disaster fund. This one woman went off on me about how if she even wanted to donate she would do it on her own and didn't want it shoved down her throat at a grocery store. All she had to do was so no..which luckily most are not doing. I very nicely said to her as I handed her the receipt "well thank you and you have a real nice weekend" In my head I was thinking...yep you have a nice weekend while you are at home cooking your dinner and watching tv and sleeping in a nice soft bed.

[lizanne]

Whether you agree with him or not, it was pure emotion that poured out of him. The man was in pain and it came out as anger.

MSNBC is reruning the program at noon. If you're going to watch-remember to send a donation. That is the purpose of the whole thing.

[snoopy]

I want to see a clip of it just to see the look on Mike Myers face.

Here ya go...the first clip is of Shep Smith and Geraldo Rivera's emotional outbursts in response to the devastating conditions in NOLA. Scroll down a little further to hear from Kanye West and see Mike Meyer's reaction (I think he was taken off guard more than anything, we really don't know what his personal beliefs are):

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

[Not so Dumbo]

It completely turned me off. My first thought was if they are going to make this into a race issue than I'm not going to help at all. My second thought was it's not the victims fault that he feels this way. I just hope that his opinon is not at popular one. I'm sure everyone is doing all they can to help ALL people.

[Buzzfanmom]

First off, let me beg you all not to flame me. I have been glued to the TV all week and my heart goes out to everyone in the Gulf area. Everyone affected has been in my thougths and prayers.
I am not a Kayne West fan. I'm not a George Bush fan either but I try to support the president no matter which party is in office. I didn't vote for GW but I do respect his chioces. I just try to be a good American and I hate the feeling that the country is so often divided. Having said that......

Didn't anybody think that Kayne West's comments were HILARIOUS???!!!! Thank God for DVR! I was watching upstairs alone when he came on and it was so obvious he was going off script. I ran down to get my husband because I knew it was going to be good. So I rewound it a bit and played it from the beginning. The look on Mike Meyers face alone was priceless. He did handle it very well but I would love to know what was going through his head! And then when he said that GW doesn't like black people, I lost it. I felt bad for laughing especially after being in tears most of the week. But then we rewound it again and watched it over and over just looking at poor Mike Meyers face! And then when they cut to Chris Tucker and his facial expression was like "Hey, don't look at me!".
I know I'll get flamed for this, but for my husband and I it was some much needed comic relief.
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[battricia]

We are a collection site for the red cross, so we are asking each and everyone of our customers if they want to donate $1.00 (yep only 1.00) to the hurricane disaster fund. This one woman went off on me about how if she even wanted to donate she would do it on her own and didn't want it shoved down her throat at a grocery store. All she had to do was so no..which luckily most are not doing. I very nicely said to her as I handed her the receipt "well thank you and you have a real nice weekend" In my head I was thinking...yep you have a nice weekend while you are at home cooking your dinner and watching tv and sleeping in a nice soft bed.

Did you ever think this is exactly why she was upset? Nobody wants to be the ******* that says no to donating a dollar for victims of a disaster, when in reality maybe she's donated all she has already, but now everyone in the line with her, as well as you, the cashier all think she's just a greedy selfish ingrateful snob. Well done!

tricia.

[maddiel]

My sister works at a call centre where they did a volunteer shift to answer phones for the Red Cross during the broadcast. They didn't have a television to watch the concert. All of a sudden people started calling and ranting at the poor volunteers who had no idea why! She said the Red Cross emailed out a statement after about five minutes for them to read to the callers, but those poor folks answering the phones were taken completely by surprise. Some of the callers were very nasty.

M.

[txSleepingBeauty]

Didn't anybody think that Kayne West's comments were HILARIOUS???!!!!
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who busted a gut watching that!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. The pat, unaffected way Kanye said "George Bush hates black people" and the look of *** did he just say on Mike Meyers face was freaking hilarious!

do I think this is going to hurt donations? no, if that's the excuse you're using to not donate, well that's just sad. Is it going to hurt his sales? no way, his audience doesn't give a rat's **** and chances are they don't like GWB anyway. Chances are the people who are offended have never heard of Kanye West before and hell would freeze over before they bought one of his cd's.

And I think it was a great place to say it. It's nice to see some honest emotions on stuff like that. the man was deeply affected by this tragedy and needed to say something that would be heard by the maximum amount of people.

Flame away if you'd like, I'm a little chilly anyway.

[VistaLeigh'smommy]

I didn't read this whole thread because everyone is saying the same thing over and over but I know that Kanye hasn't pulled a "dixie chicks" He is a rapper and a large amount of his audience is the south. I can almost put money on the fact that people in shelters aren't singing George Bush's praises.

I didn't see the show, but I know how awkward Kanye can be... even more so when he wants to make an important point. But I learned about the speech through EVERYONE on my AIM buddy list... everyone's away messages are saying how amazing he is... and I, as well as most of my buddy list are white new englanders between the ages of 20 and 25... his audience isn't going anywhere even if his comments were in the wrong forum

[KMH1]

I'm sorry, but he's an immature fool. Don't you all remember the fit he pitched at last year's Video Music Awards, because he didn't win? I don't take this kid seriously at all.

[Free4Life11]

I went to bed last night before I had a chance to watch...and whoever said it was funny was right!! :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

When he said "George Bush doesn't like black people," it was so funny how they just cut away and the look on the guys face was priceless. Kanye is an immature idiot. How can anyone take him seriously?

I heard that NBC edited out his comments for the West Coast feed.

I'm sure they were PISSED! I wonder what people said to him right after this...

[Jen D]

It was funny, in a way.... that bizarre tangent he went off on about how he felt guilty for shopping and wanted to call his business manager.

And I can't believe no one was mentioned, but the first time Mike Myers cut in to get back on script (right after the "they're shooting us on sight" statement) Myers sang "unsubtle!" before launching into his speech.

[Free4Life11]

I just DVR'ed it and he DID say unsubtle!!

[drgnfly30]

I heard that NBC edited out his comments for the West Coast feed.

I'm sure they were PISSED! I wonder what people said to him right after this...

They replayed the ENTIRE broadcast again on MSNBC this afternoon... even Kanye's segment... I though for sure, with them issuing a statement & all, that they would have edited it out?!?!

[Free4Life11]

Did they really?? That's so strange.

[Nancy]

Did you ever think this is exactly why she was upset? Nobody wants to be the ******* that says no to donating a dollar for victims of a disaster, when in reality maybe she's donated all she has already, but now everyone in the line with her, as well as you, the cashier all think she's just a greedy selfish ingrateful snob. Well done!

tricia.

No, she was very mean and nasty when she said it. I had many people tell me no, I had many say they already donated. I only had one person scream at me and say IF I was going to donate at all and that was her. If she just would have said no I would have said thank you and handed her the change and receipt like I did for everyone else that said no. ...it was her tone and pure nastiness in the way she said it that made me angry enough to mention it here, sorry you took personal offense to it. And as a matter of fact the person directly behind her said no and so did the one in front of her. I do know that not everyone can afford to donate. But you know what? I'm just doing my job. We are all told to ask each and every customer, that's what I've been doing. I'm not shoving it down their throats like she accused me of. I say "would you like to donate 1.00 to the disaster relief fund" If they so no fine,I go on to the next customer. This particular person was just way overboard that is why I mentioned her. I had one worman give me her change, it was 42 cents, because that was all the extra she had with her. I was just making a comment about some of the attitudes and how not everyone is jumping all over themselves to donate. And THAT was in response to those that are saying if the Kanye incident is making people say that won't donate they probably wouldn't have anyway.

[sydally9367]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was a little funny :blush: I didn't think his actual comments were amusing, but the look on Mike Myers' face was absolutely PRICELESS!
I live on the West Coast, but it was simulcast on MSNBC here at the same time it was broadcast on the East Coast. I am SO glad I watched it then because when they showed it on it's actual time, they edited out the portion where he made that last remark. I felt so bad for Mike Myers, but the look on his face will keep me laughing for a few days at least! :rotfl:

[MinnieM3]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was a little funny :blush: I didn't think his actual comments were amusing, but the look on Mike Myers' face was absolutely PRICELESS!
I live on the West Coast, but it was simulcast on MSNBC here at the same time it was broadcast on the East Coast. I am SO glad I watched it then because when they showed it on it's actual time, they edited out the portion where he made that last remark. I felt so bad for Mike Myers, but the look on his face will keep me laughing for a few days at least! :rotfl:

I re-watch it JUST for Mike Myers expression and the guy after him scrambling! I'd never heard of this Kanye guy. Guess I didn't miss much! What a jerk.

[Towncrier]

They replayed the ENTIRE broadcast again on MSNBC this afternoon... even Kanye's segment... I though for sure, with them issuing a statement & all, that they would have edited it out?!?!

I saw a rebroadcast on the Sci-Fi channel this morning, and Kanye's statement had been skillfully edited out. At least the last part about the President.

[DisneyLovingMama]

Just downloaded and watched it. I'm sorry, but he was so funny! The poor people of New Orelans are "his people", but he has to call his business manager to ask about donating? Hah! I don't think anyone will be turned off--he wasn't articulate, intelligent or moving. He sounded like an idiot and it was laughable. Chris Tucker looked utterly bewildered and Mike Myers' "unsubtle" was classic.

:rotfl2:

[Hillbeans]

I didn't see the show, but I know how awkward Kanye can be... even more so when he wants to make an important point. But I learned about the speech through EVERYONE on my AIM buddy list... everyone's away messages are saying how amazing he is... and I, as well as most of my buddy list are white new englanders between the ages of 20 and 25... his audience isn't going anywhere even if his comments were in the wrong forum

I won't debate whether you think he's "amazing" or not, however the first time I even ever heard of Kayne was after his verbal outburst at Gretchen Wilson for winning an award for Best New Artist - he went off on her in a very public forum for no reason whatsoever because he felt he deserved this award more than her - real mature.

I know I sure won't be buying one of his records anytime soon, nor the Chicks whom I used to love, but grew tired of their outbursts and overspoken views on everything. You're a singer - sing. Save the political speeches for the DNC.

[Island_Lauri]

It is Amazing! at how upset some people get at an entertainer's statement at a fundraising event and yet no one appears to bothered by Pres. Bush's inappropriate quip about helping to rebuild Sen. Trent Lott's home while he was being brief on how the government was handling (or not handling) this tragedy. Or when Pres. Bush told Diane Sawyer that no one imagined a levee breaking in New Orleans. Where is your outage at those statements?

[drgnfly30]

I saw a rebroadcast on the Sci-Fi channel this morning, and Kanye's statement had been skillfully edited out. At least the last part about the President.
You may be right about the Bush/Black people statement right before they cut away from him... but the remainder was there & just as uncomfortable as the first time around... NBC/Universal would have been better served if they had just cut the whole thing out....

[drgnfly30]

It is Amazing! at how upset some people get at an entertainer's statement at a fundraising event and yet no one appears to bothered by Pres. Bush's inappropriate quip about helping to rebuild Sen. Trent Lott's home while he was being brief on how the government was handling (or not handling) this tragedy. Or when Pres. Bush told Diane Sawyer that no one imagined a levee breaking in New Orleans. Where is your outage at those statements?

Well, there have been plenty of Bush bashing threads as well.. too many to keep up with!!!:confused3

[gabbysmom04]

good lord maybe he should have stood up there and blamed bush for WW2 or maybe tell everyone bush called god and told me to send the hurricaine over to NO. People chose to stay behind! Maybe some people had no choice but some people chose to stay! And as for bush hating black people :wave: hello, there are white people there too! If NO is 65%-70% black it would make sense to see more black people on the news then white. the real heart of the matter is that it is horrible for all the people black white red and blue. We are all americans, I grieve for all the people there, their color does not matter.

[gopherit]

If NO is 65%-70% black it would make sense to see more black people on the news then white. the real heart of the matter is that it is horrible for all the people black white red and blue. We are all americans, I grieve for all the people there, their color does not matter.

ITA! ANd if the people trapped are predominantly black, then it also makes sense that, out of the bad element found in that area, it too would most likely be predominantly black. It doesn't mean there aren't other races looting or pilaging or such -- you can be assured there are. It's just simple math that those numbers would be lower, given those demographics. But I don't see "color" when I see someone looting a plasma TV - I see a person doing a selfish act of crime. Just as I don't see "color" when I see the thousands upon thousands of victims so desperate for help trapped in that city -- I see people in dire need of help.

I am positively disgusted that, in the face of disaster, so many Americans will IMMEDIATELY consume their brains and the public airwaves NOT with ways to help or solve the problem, but instead, with racial popularity contest fodder. I don't see why, at this time of such sadness and need, focus should be on why poverty affects one race more than another, or whether Bush likes your team better than my team, how the system is failing certain groups or races, or whether a white man "finds" and a black man "loots" -- focus should be on SOLVING THE PROBLEM AT HAND -- which of course, is to get those people their basic needs STAT. And that should happen no matter WHAT color they are. They are human -- SAVE THEM. WHen you bring in the race card, IMO, it only slows things down, because instead of an America united, you instantly divide it. When people are truly in crisis, you don't stop to think what color the hand is reaching out to - you reach out and grab it and hold on. Taking time to "remind" America all the ways we "aren't ONE" is not value-adding -- just REACH OUT AND GRAB THAT HAND.

And it's for THAT reason I did NOT appreciate Kanye's comments. It puts his feelings ahead of the true victims - he is promoting HIS agenda. He is stating "It's US against THEM." But he is NOT them - he is NOT trapped in NO. He did NOT lose his home, family members, livelihod. And that fund raiser isn't ABOUT him. As someone pointed out, he was headed home to a good meal, hot shower, soft bed -- the victims aren't.

Bad form in the wrong forum. :( Take it to Larry King Live, Kanye - stay out of the fundraisers.


Island Laurie - I am certain there are plenty of threads for outrage on those topics too. I find just as much to despise in the confusion and slow motion of the govt. as I do in the topic of this thread. I don't think you have to agree with one just to disagree with the other -- you can take issue with both, and many have.

[Divamomto3]

It is Amazing! at how upset some people get at an entertainer's statement at a fundraising event and yet no one appears to bothered by Pres. Bush's inappropriate quip about helping to rebuild Sen. Trent Lott's home while he was being brief on how the government was handling (or not handling) this tragedy. Or when Pres. Bush told Diane Sawyer that no one imagined a levee breaking in New Orleans. Where is your outage at those statements?

Are you kidding? have you actually been reading these boards?
Umm....I'm outraged about all of that this week also.

[bz8bls]

Excuse me...because of his opinion, why would any of you think that would hurt donations? You give from the heart.

[disneyaggie]

I saw the re-run on the CNN news. This loser came across as a highly misinformed moron. He was an embarrassment to himself and all of those hard-working people who were donating their time trying to raise funds.

I was totally confused by his statement that if black people are walking out of stores with items it's looting, yet if they are white, they are stealing to survive.

Um, I saw the CNN clip of a white lady walking out of a store with 4-5 packages of Pampers. This was clearly day 3 or 4 after the hurricane. She looked like she was very uncomfortable taking from the store. You could tell she was so out of her comfort zone. She did not hide her face, she did not try to run from the cameras, or, as we have seen from other clips of what I call the real looters, she did not mug for the media's camera and smile like an idiot with a ridiculous amount of obviously stolen merchandise, none of which could save their lives and be called survival items.

She did not have an armload of clothes while balancing a plasma screen TV on her back. She did not tell her son to grab handfuls of jewlery or try to bust out the ATM. Just diapers, folks. Just diapers. When asked about the Pampers she got she said, "I am just trying to take care of my children". My heart truly broke for her. If she had been black, brown or even blue with pink stripes, I would have had the same compassion.

I never heard of this idiot so-called rapper guy, and quite frankly, don't care to hear of him again. What an embarassment . . . and a LOSER! :flower:

[disneyaggie]

ANd if the people trapped are predominantly black, then it also makes sense that, out of the bad element found in that area, it too would most likely be predominantly black. It doesn't mean there aren't other races looting or pilaging or such -- you can be assured there are. It's just simple math that those numbers would be lower, given those demographics.

Thank you! :flower:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I was totally confused by his statement that if black people are walking out of stores with items it's looting, yet if they are white, they are stealing to survive.


Yahoo had two photos--one of a black young man--and it was captioned as "looting food". The other was a pic of a caucasion-looking man and woman and captioned as "found food".

We had soooo many threads on this---and someone finally found the "story" behind the photos.

As always--there is context...and people are flying off the handle of the captions which is what they did.

The "found food" couple--did indeed find the food...it was floating in front of a store and floating away. So they found it--they didn't go in and take it.

As for the "looted" food--no background info---just one would assume that the photographer must have witnessed it.

So he was flying off the handle for no legitimate reason on these particular photos that were spread around to make it appear that there is a racial divide. While I'm sure there is one--these photos created a false one.

[disneyaggie]

Yahoo had two photos--one of a black young man--and it was captioned as "looting food". The other was a pic of a caucasion-looking man and woman and captioned as "found food".

We had soooo many threads on this---and someone finally found the "story" behind the photos.

As always--there is context...and people are flying off the handle of the captions which is what they did.

The "found food" couple--did indeed find the food...it was floating in front of a store and floating away. So they found it--they didn't go in and take it.

As for the "looted" food--no background info---just one would assume that the photographer must have witnessed it.

So he was flying off the handle for no legitimate reason on these particular photos that were spread around to make it appear that there is a racial divide. While I'm sure there is one--these photos created a false one.


Ahh. Thanks. :wave2:

[Pete's Mom]

I won't debate whether you think he's "amazing" or not, however the first time I even ever heard of Kayne was after his verbal outburst at Gretchen Wilson for winning an award for Best New Artist - he went off on her in a very public forum for no reason whatsoever because he felt he deserved this award more than her - real mature.

I know I sure won't be buying one of his records anytime soon, nor the Chicks whom I used to love, but grew tired of their outbursts and overspoken views on everything. You're a singer - sing. Save the political speeches for the DNC. :cheer2:

[minniepumpernickel]

Cut the guy a break....emotions are high and he (and a lot of others) feel that the poorest of the poor have been disproportionately harmed in this catastrophe. He may have chosen a harsh way to speak his mind, and perhaps even an inappropriate forum, but if that's the worst thing you've ever seen you haven't seen the images I've seen the last few days!

Yes, I totally agree with this! I think that a lot of people that aren't acknowledging this are keeping their eyes closed. :)

[palmtreegirl]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050908/en_music_eo/17315

Kanye Registers on Top
By David Jenison Wed Sep 7, 8:46 PM ET
Kanye West might not be NBC or President Bush's favorite rapper, but they're the exceptions.


The Grammy-winning hip-hop star, who generated controversy last Friday when he appeared on NBC's Concert for Hurricane Relief telethon and stated that the President doesn't care about black people," saw his sophomore release, Late Registration, dominate the pop chart.

According to Nielsen SoundScan figures, the disc sold over 860,000 copies for the week ended Sunday to easily debut at number one on the Billboard 200. Only 50 Cent's The Massacre, which sold 1.14 million first-week copies in March, had a stronger opening this year.

Late Registration benefits from two radio singles, "Diamonds of Sierra Leone" and "Gold Digger," with the latter song currently topping the Billboard Hot 100. The chart-topping track features Oscar winner Jamie Foxx channeling Ray Charles' "I Got a Woman."

"This is a phenomenal moment for everyone who worked so hard to bring Kanye to the top of the charts," Def Jam boss Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter says in a statement. Carter, who helped launch West's career as a producer, served as one of the album's executive producers.

While his album rocketed up the chart, West was caught up in a whirlwind of controversy. Following his live-on-air Bush-basing comments, which were disavowed by NBC and edited out of the tape-delayed West Coast broadcast, several right-wingers, sports-radio hosts and football writers questioned whether the rapper should be allowed to participate in the NFL Opening Kickoff concert special Thursday. The NFL decided to keep West in the lineup, but won't air his performance live on ABC. West also made news in the courts, as his legal team moved to stop a Chicago deejay from selling an album that West recorded in his teens.

Late Registration was one of six new discs in the Top 10. G-Unit rapper Tony Yayo landed at number two, with Thoughts of a Predicate Felon selling nearly 214,000 units. The self-proclaimed "Talk of New York," whose jail stint forced him to sit out G-Unit's initial rise to fame, is the final member of the Fiddy-led crew to release an album. It is also the lowest selling debut by a G-Unit member, a distinction previously claimed by Young Buck.

Country music's most acclaimed duo, Brooks & Dunn, wrangled a number three bow, with Hillbilly Deluxe moving 111,000. In their illustrious career, the Nashville superstars have won countless country music awards, appeared on a Corn Flakes box, played a presidential inauguration concert and have sold more than 28 million albums.

Indie darlings Death Cab for Cutie followed at four with their major label debut, Plans. The Seattle group's fifth disc sold 90,000 copies in its opening week. The other two Top 10 debuts belonged to Christian band Casting Crowns, whose Lifesong sold 71,000 at nine, and Caribbean-born Rihanna's Music of the Sun selling 68,000 at 10.

Filling in the rest of the Top 10 slots were Mariah Carey's The Emancipation of Mimi at five, Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Business at six, Now That's What I Call Music! 19 at seven and Hilary Duff's Most Wanted at eight.

A pair of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers also scored strong debuts. Eric Clapton's Back Home opened at 13, while Bob Dylan's No Direction Home: The Soundtrack--The Bootleg Series Vol. 7 came in at 16. The latter disc is the soundtrack to a documentary by Martin Scorsese, which will debut later this month on PBS.

Other noteworthy debuts included Herbie Hancock's Possibilities at 22, Yolanda Adams' Day by Day at 23, Cold's Different Kind of Pain at 26, 30 Seconds to Mars' Beautiful Lie at 30 and Our Lady Peace's Healthy in Paranoid Times at 45.

Here's a recap of the Top 10 albums for the week ended Sunday:

1. Late Registration, Kanye West
2. Thoughts of a Predicate Felon, Tony Yayo
3. Hillbilly Deluxe, Brooks & Dunn
4. Plans, Death Cab for Cutie
5. The Emancipation of Mimi, Mariah Carey
6. Monkey Business, Black Eyed Peas
7. Now That's What I Call Music! 19, various
8. Most Wanted, Hilary Duff
9. Lifesong, Casting Crowns
10. Music of the Sun, Rihann

[Grand2me]

Yahoo had two photos--one of a black young man--and it was captioned as "looting food". The other was a pic of a caucasion-looking man and woman and captioned as "found food".

The "found food" couple--did indeed find the food...it was floating in front of a store and floating away. So they found it--they didn't go in and take it.

As for the "looted" food--no background info---just one would assume that the photographer must have witnessed it.

So he was flying off the handle for no legitimate reason on these particular photos that were spread around to make it appear that there is a racial divide. While I'm sure there is one--these photos created a false one.

OH MY GOD!! I can not believe what I am reading. Were you THERE when the white couple "FOUND" the food?! Were ANY OF US THERE?! Why would you make one assumption about the "LOOTED" photo and not make the same assumption for the other photo?! Are we just THAT trusting of the media all of a sudden :rolleyes: to not believe that there is a "spin" to everything? Is it because in one photo the food was in front of the people and in the other it was behind?! People can not be that blind. He flew off the handle for a VERY legitimate reason. This has been a major problem with the media for years.
True, his venue may not have been the BEST but I understand his anger. I am just disappointed that the point was missed by some folks... :rolleyes:

[Buzzfanmom]

OH MY GOD!! I can not believe what I am reading. Were you THERE when the white couple "FOUND" the food?! Were ANY OF US THERE?! Why would you make one assumption about the "LOOTED" photo and not make the same assumption for the other photo?! Are we just THAT trusting of the media all of a sudden :rolleyes: to not believe that there is a "spin" to everything? Is it because in one photo the food was in front of the people and in the other it was behind?! People can not be that blind. He flew off the handle for a VERY legitimate reason. This has been a major problem with the media for years.
True, his venue may not have been the BEST but I understand his anger. I am just disappointed that the point was missed by some folks... :rolleyes:

I realize that in the picture in question you can't see what's in the bag so it was wrong to say looting. BUT, but I have seen the video and pictures of some taking food, diapers, water etc. and others were taking TVs, video game systems, jewelry and other items that are not life sustaining.. I don't care if you are white or black. If you take jewelry, TV's,video games, YOU ARE LOOTING!!!!!
West's comments were not lost by many of us. I understand his frustration, and I am so sorry for all of the people who lost homes, friends and family. I just think he could have chosen a more appropriate way to express his concern. I think this was more of a publicity stunt. Just my 2 cents.

[beattyfamily]

OH MY GOD!! I can not believe what I am reading. Were you THERE when the white couple "FOUND" the food?! Were ANY OF US THERE?! Why would you make one assumption about the "LOOTED" photo and not make the same assumption for the other photo?! Are we just THAT trusting of the media all of a sudden :rolleyes: to not believe that there is a "spin" to everything? Is it because in one photo the food was in front of the people and in the other it was behind?! People can not be that blind. He flew off the handle for a VERY legitimate reason. This has been a major problem with the media for years.
True, his venue may not have been the BEST but I understand his anger. I am just disappointed that the point was missed by some folks... :rolleyes:

Lisa Loves Pooh was only trying to help clarify. The photos kanye West were referring to were discussed here already. The man that took the photo of the white people witnessed what happened with them. They found the food floating out of a grocery store and took it. The other photo with black people who were supposidly looting was taken by someone else elsewhere. Maybe the photographer saw them loot. Who knows?

Just please don't attack Lisa Loves Pooh for trying to explain the photos based on another thread here with the photographer's own words on what he saw when he took photo of the white couple.

[DawnCt1]

Kanye West's video feed received thunderous boos at the Patriots game last night. I guess a lot of football fans didn't fall for his race card ploy!

www.Drudgereport.com

[Grand2me]

Lisa Loves Pooh was only trying to help clarify. The photos kanye West were referring to were discussed here already. The man that took the photo of the white people witnessed what happened with them. They found the food floating out of a grocery store and took it. The other photo with black people who were supposidly looting was taken by someone else elsewhere. Maybe the photographer saw them loot. Who knows?

Just please don't attack Lisa Loves Pooh for trying to explain the photos based on another thread here with the photographer's own words on what he saw when he took photo of the white couple.

I was not attacking Lisa. I still stand by what I said and the fact is that the media are not the most trustworthy lot around.

I agree with you Buzz. I think that taking TVs and Stereos is looting. There is nothing that TV can do to save your life. They also were not letting people out of the city and on to buses or helicopters with ANY of that stuff. I also think that stealing is stealing. It's not to say that I don't understand. If I was in the situation I have no idea what I would have done.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I was not attacking Lisa. I still stand by what I said and the fact is that the media are not the most trustworthy lot around.


You don't think this is an attack...personally accusing me of twisting something when all I did was convey what someone else had said--the very person who took the pictures...


OH MY GOD!! I can not believe what I am reading. Were you THERE when the white couple "FOUND" the food?!

Let's play nice--it is outbursts like these that are getting threads closed around here.

You made some legitimate points--but this is an attack.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

From snopes regarding the photos in question.....

A Salon article on the photographs by Aaron Kinney suggests the captions were a result of a combination of contexual and stylistic differences:
Jack Stokes, AP's director of media relations, confirmed today that [photographer Dave] Martin says he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store. "He saw the person go into the shop and take the goods," Stokes said, "and that's why he wrote 'looting' in the caption."

Regarding the AFP/Getty "finding" photo by [photographer Chris] Graythen, Getty spokeswoman Bridget Russel said, "This is obviously a big tragedy down there, so we're being careful with how we credit these photos." Russel said that Graythen had discussed the image in question with his editor and that if Graythen didn't witness the two people in the image in the act of looting, then he couldn't say they were looting.
The photographer who took the Getty/AFP picture, Chris Graythen, also posted the reasons behind his caption:
I wrote the caption about the two people who 'found' the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not 'looted' them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. there were a million items floating in the water — we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. it had no doors. the water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water. They would have floated away anyhow.

So before attacking my statement--which was FACT and not opinion...check the facts first.

These photos were cause for displaced anger....but not a legitimate reason which was my opinion.

[Grand2me]

You don't think this is an attack...personally accusing me of twisting something when all I did was convey what someone else had said--the very person who took the pictures...
Let's play nice--it is outbursts like these that are getting threads closed around here.

You made some legitimate points--but this is an attack.

Ah well...such is life. It was not some sort of personal attack on you. I'm kinda sorry that you took it that way but at least you saw the points that I was trying to make. I STILL stand by what I said. That photographer's butt was/is on the line. I'm pretty sure he is going to try and save it. He should have listed that "story" when the picture was printed. Like I said...they are not the most trustworthy lot of people.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well nice to know it wasn't an attack. :)