Hurricane Katrina..The Crisis continues...Disastrous damage and flooding

[mickeyfan2]

I don't think there are any reporters at the Superdome.

I think it is FOX, but could be CNN, they have a reporter who will be staying at the Superdome.

[Free4Life11]

I feel the exact same way. :guilty:

I will admit I do get a little worked up over things, a little overdramatic, but I just feel awful about this!

[MagicKingdom05]

Free4Life11,

Heck I'm in the Chicago area and I'm very scared about this not so much for what it's going to do to this town, but unless something changes soon, the loss of life is going to be unbelieveable.

[phorsenuf]

There's going to be a point where people are just going to have to drop anything unnecessary to speed this up

Well, if people didn't feel a need to bring in their alcohol and FIREARMS maybe it would go quicker. They've said they have already confiscated firearms. What the heck is with that? Why would anybody bring that with them knowing they can't bring them in. They should make those people go to the back of the line!
Not to be mean or heartless but its idiots like that that are making this such a long process.

[Free4Life11]

This is going to have a huge effect on the whole country -- in terms of loss of lives, the recovery efforts, and the economy, I fear the implications are going to be huge.

[MagicKingdom05]

phorsenuf,

I can just see it now. The mother says to the son forget the food and water and bring the firearms.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I think it is FOX, but could be CNN, they have a reporter who will be staying at the Superdome.

you're kidding!!!!

Why am I not surprised?

[cynsaun]

Free4Life11,

Heck I'm in the Chicago area and I'm very scared about this not so much for what it's going to do to this town, but unless something changes soon, the loss of life is going to be unbelieveable.


This is what is getting me to as well. The buildings can be rebuilt, but we can't bring back those that lose their lives.

[Free4Life11]

Well, if people didn't feel a need to bring in their alcohol and FIREARMS maybe it would go quicker. They've said they have already confiscated firearms. What the heck is with that? Why would anybody bring that with them knowing they can't bring them in. They should make those people go to the back of the line!
Not to be mean or heartless but its idiots like that that are making this such a long process.

I know. I mean you have to give them some break as it is a stressfull situation, but still, bringing a FIREARM? Come on... :confused3

[MagicKingdom05]

Free4Life11,

Actually the whole world is going to feel this because of the loss of oil will send oil prices up up up which has already begun.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well, if people didn't feel a need to bring in their alcohol and FIREARMS maybe it would go quicker. They've said they have already confiscated firearms. What the heck is with that? Why would anybody bring that with them knowing they can't bring them in. They should make those people go to the back of the line!
Not to be mean or heartless but its idiots like that that are making this such a long process.

I'm there with you.


The interview that just took place on the news--he made no indication that there was a long line of people or anything.

[Free4Life11]

That's true. People think gas prices are bad now....it's going to be interesting seeing how high they go.

[bengalbelle]

It's really nice to see so many people concerned. We are sitting around waiting. I have my brothers family here as well as a friend of ours. We are riding it out. We are about 60 miles north of NO. It is really quiet here. We had two really quick showers but thats it. I think we are going to mix up a couple of drinks. We will probably be up most of the night at least me and SIL.

Thanks again for all of your well wishes. I will check in when I can, depends on our power situation. We do have a generator, so maybe I will be able to early and keep you guys posted of what I know.
:wave2: If you're where I think you are, I'm 20 miles from you. It's just like any typical Sunday night here. Just think if we didn't have the technology today, we'd have no clue. Instead we're just sitting here waiting.

If any other Diser's from LA, MS or AL are reading here, please check in. Unless you'd rather start a check-in thread, Shutterbug.

WBRZ in BR is saying the models are coming together and they do believe it will be a Category 5 when it hits. Earlier they thought it might downgrade to a Category 4.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Free4Life11,

Heck I'm in the Chicago area and I'm very scared about this not so much for what it's going to do to this town, but unless something changes soon, the loss of life is going to be unbelieveable.


i'm confused--what should change?

[mickeyfan2]

you're kidding!!!!

Nope, he said he was staying. You could not get me to stay.

[Danvers]

http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/nph-cachecam.cgi?camid=paradecam&ols=nolalive&ts=20050828215212&ct=20

http://www.nola.com/cgi-bin/nph-cachecam.cgi?camid=bead&ols=nolalive&ts=20050828215315&ct=20

It's so quiet :(

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Sorry about that. I ment unless the hurricane changes direction the loss of life is going to be unbelieveable.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Nope, he said he was staying. You could not get me to stay.

Well heck--if he was going to stay--he should have picked the hotel with a full bar on bourbon street--live it up!!!

Never have seen reporters evacuate before--and the national newsgroups send them into new orleans. Crazy people!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Sorry about that. I ment unless the hurricane changes direction the loss of life is going to be unbelieveable.

you know--I read it three times...and then I got it.

They did show a wobble north again....what WESH orlando is showing.

[LisaNJ25]

That's true. People think gas prices are bad now....it's going to be interesting seeing how high they go.

The mayor said earlier it could go up $1 or $2 per gallon :guilty:

[phorsenuf]

I don't know quite how it all works but since there are all those oil rigs (which I know have been evacuated) are there pipelines that feed to the mainland? Will those hold up or are we looking at some major oil spills as well?

[Free4Life11]

i'm confused--what should change?

I think he meant if some miracle occurs and the storm is downgraded or disappates (sp?).

[MinnieM3]

When the two anchors signed off at WDSU it was really sad. They both thanked each other and said how much they appreciated each other, etc. Almost as if they would never see each other again...:(

That is a scary thing to see. When they go, you know it's bad. :(

[MinnieM3]

So who else is going to be up most of the night? I can't even imagine going to sleep. I may cat nap here and there, but the TV will be on all night.

I was just going to posst the same thing! I know I won't be able to sleep at all tonight. DH said the same. It'll be terrible not knowing tomorrow at school. I'll get to watch TV at 11:40 til noon while they are recess.

[Free4Life11]

I just saw a report on the Superdome on WLLTV.com -- looked pretty chaotic near the entrance. They mentioned the "amnesty box," and I am glad they aren't wasting time giving citations for weapons and stuff.

[mickeyfan2]

I don't know quite how it all works but since there are all those oil rigs (which I know have been evacuated) are there pipelines that feed to the mainland? Will those hold up or are we looking at some major oil spills as well?

They secured the rigs before evacuating. The chance of a spill is minimal.

[Free4Life11]

They are pulling reporters out! You know it's serious...

Apparently WWLTV.com is one of the few ways to get any transmissions out of NO.

[phorsenuf]

They secured the rigs before evacuating. The chance of a spill is minimal.

What about the pipelines though? Could they be churned up by the storn surge?

[Free4Life11]

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/829_page1.pdf

Wow. This is truly history in the making...

[madge]

you're kidding!!!!

Why am I not surprised?

it's a reporter from Fox News.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

They are pulling reporters out! You know it's serious...

Apparently WWLTV.com is one of the few ways to get any transmissions out of NO.


I think they still all can--they are just opting to shut down. earlier WWL said that they will shut down at midnight and their station (sisterstation??) in baton rouge will take over for them.

[Talking Hands]

Found out that one of my daughter's best friend's is a grad student at Tulane. I hope she evacualted and is safe. She went through Andrew so should understand the danger of a Cat 5 storm.

[MinnieM3]

Anyone else who's been through a major hurricane having a really hard time with this? I'm near tears here. It's like re-living it.

If there was any way I could miss work tomorrow, I would.

I feel sooooo bad for all those there. They're going to go through a nightmare. I feel so helpless just watching. So sad. Will continue to pray.

[TXTink]

:wave2: If you're where I think you are, I'm 20 miles from you. It's just like any typical Sunday night here. Just think if we didn't have the technology today, we'd have no clue. Instead we're just sitting here waiting.

If any other Diser's from LA, MS or AL are reading here, please check in. Unless you'd rather start a check-in thread, Shutterbug.

WBRZ in BR is saying the models are coming together and they do believe it will be a Category 5 when it hits. Earlier they thought it might downgrade to a Category 4.

That would be truly catastrophic! I am worried enough even with all this technology!

I like the idea of checking in! I want to hear how everyone is doing...there are many prayers going out for you all.

[Free4Life11]

You can watch coverage on the internet:

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_wwltv&props=livenoad

[mickeyfan2]

What about the pipelines though? Could they be churned up by the storn surge?

I don't think so. They are under the sea floor. Anything is possible.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ken Jones of the Superdome---on loading dock right now.....50 people in his line...he is handling the ambulances and such (infirmed people).

The healthy people were around the front. But he says most everyone is inside already.

And he says it is about the safest building to be in.

[bumcat]

Oh darn, we don't get to see the reporters standing outside leaning backwards with their arms out like superman while the wind is slapping them in the face saying, Don't come outside, this is a dangerous hurricane. :rotfl:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Oh darn, we don't get to see the reporters standing outside leaning backwards with their arms out like superman while the wind is slapping them in the face saying, Don't come outside, this is a dangerous hurricane. :rotfl:

Well that just about sums it up!!
:rotfl2:

[goofygirl]

I am watching CNN's coverage. What they are saying is very scary. I never thought I'd see anything worse than Andrew in my lifetime. What they are predicting reminds me of something I saw on the Galveston, TX flood/storm of 1900.

[Miss Jasmine]

Oh darn, we don't get to see the reporters standing outside leaning backwards with their arms out like superman while the wind is slapping them in the face saying, Don't come outside, this is a dangerous hurricane. :rotfl:
Oh I am sure there will be at least one of them who will be far enough from the hurricane not to be in real danger who will still do this.

[Shutterbug]

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/829_page1.pdf

Wow. This is truly history in the making...


Good find! thanks!

[Miss Jasmine]

Well our second Anchor has arrived in NO, Brian Williams is at the Superdome. NUTS.

[cajunmommy]

WBRZ Baton Rouge just reporting up to 1million people potentially homeless....68% of homes potentially destroyed. This one's going to be ugly. I don't want to sound alarmist, but I don't think anyone can fathom the destruction and devastation that's going to happen in the next 24 hours. The comparison to the tsunami comes close.

[Free4Life11]

I'm sorry if I'm not getting it, but why is it nuts having reporters at the Superdome? I think it's good; maybe we will be able to get a picture of what is going on there.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Oh I am sure there will be at least one of them who will be far enough from the hurricane not to be in real danger who will still do this.


Considering how far up the hurricane force winds will go--I am sure plenty of reporters who do not ordinarily get to surf the hurricane will do just this.

Gotta be cool like the coasters!

On a side note--did you not find it humorous when a reporter last season got hit with debris..he was okay--but they showed it over and over and over again---I wanted to say "serves you right for pulling a 'do as I say, not as I do' moment.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Well our second Anchor has arrived in NO, Brian Williams is at the Superdome. NUTS.

And speaking of the devil--he's on right now :rolleyes: .

[Free4Life11]

WBRZ Baton Rouge just reporting up to 1million people potentially homeless....68% of homes potentially destroyed. This one's going to be ugly. I don't want to sound alarmist, but I don't think anyone can fathom the destruction and devastation that's going to happen in the next 24 hours. The comparison to the tsunami comes close.

And you have to remember the tsunami damage was much more widspread. This is all occuring in a fairly small area...I really don't think the majority of America has any clue how horrible this is going to be. None of my friends or relatives I've talked to online ave a clue! My sister even said, "but it's only a category 1."

[Free4Life11]

Have network news stations picked up the story or is this still strictly cable news fare?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

WBRZ Baton Rouge just reporting up to 1million people potentially homeless....68% of homes potentially destroyed. This one's going to be ugly. I don't want to sound alarmist, but I don't think anyone can fathom the destruction and devastation that's going to happen in the next 24 hours. The comparison to the tsunami comes close.

I hope the people who could afford insurance had flood insurance--b/c if their damage is just flood damage--hurricane coverage doesn't cover that :(.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm sorry if I'm not getting it, but why is it nuts having reporters at the Superdome? I think it's good; maybe we will be able to get a picture of what is going on there.


Part of me wants pictures--but the other part is that they are just grubbing after a news story. Considering that the local stations will go off air and have evacuated their newstrucks and reporters.

I dunno--seems kind of "invincible" like of them.

But I do like pictures.

[Miss Jasmine]

I'm sorry if I'm not getting it, but why is it nuts having reporters at the Superdome? I think it's good; maybe we will be able to get a picture of what is going on there.
What is nuts is National News Anchors coming into NO for this. If they are reporters already in NO that is one thing, I can even almost understand reporters from the big three and cable news channels, but ANCHORS????

[Free4Life11]

Oh I get it. You mean you think its crazy that they would "risk" (I know its a terrible word) their anchors?? I do like the fact that the local news goes off the air...feels more "human" to me.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

What is nuts is National News Anchors coming into NO for this. If they are reporters already in NO that is one thing, I can even almost understand reporters from the big three and cable news channels, but ANCHORS????

Must be first.

Must show compassion.

Must get ratings.

Risk life...priceless :earboy2:

For everyone else...common sense!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I need sleep. going to bed.

Stay safe all in the path.

[MoniqueU]

I heard earlier today on Fox that the oil rigs didn't have time to get secured that they just evacuated them. They said they could just be pummeled and end up sunk or anywhere in the gulf.

People are also still standing outside waiting to get into the Superdome.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ohh--I get it now..the NOLA NBC affiliate locked down their station and they are relocating to Jackson--and when they get there and set up, they will be back on the air.

They aren't hunkering down--they are leaving!

Now that is human and responsible and setting a good example for the audience!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I heard the same thing about the rigs MoniqueU.

[Miss Jasmine]

Oh I get it. You mean you think its crazy that they would "risk" (I know its a terrible word) their anchors?? I do like the fact that the local news goes off the air...feels more "human" to me.
It's not even the risk, it's the "I HAVE TO BE THERE FIRST AND GET THE SCOOP" that gets me. I also think this sets a bad example when you have officials earlier BEGGING people to get out and then you have the media jaunt on down for the "BIG STORY".

[MagicKingdom05]

Unless your following this like we are, I really don't think anyone will really understands what devistation is about to hit New Orleans in the next 10 hours or so. Also knowing what's probably going to happen and seeing what's going to happen two different things.

[Miss Jasmine]

Ohh--I get it now..the NOLA NBC affiliate locked down their station and they are relocating to Jackson--and when they get there and set up, they will be back on the air.

They aren't hunkering down--they are leaving!

Now that is human and responsible and setting a good example for the audience!
Unlike its NATIONAL AFFILIATE with having Brian Williams swoop onto the scene. UGH can ya tell that is bugging me?????

[Nancy]

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I've been watching the coverage all day too and will probably be up all night.. I know I won't be able to sleep knowing that so many people may lose their lives in one fell swoop.. :(

I feel the same. I was just at my SIL's and my DD and MIL were watching TV. I asked to change to the weather Channel for a minute. MIL wanted to know why???? :confused3 . I told her because I wanted to see what the hurricane was doing. Another why from MIL. :confused3 So I said because it's a Catagory 5 with winds over 170 miles and headed right for New Orleans. She says "so!" :confused3 :confused3 . So I say well by tomorrow at this time NO might not be there anymore. Her comment was then "oh do you know people there or something? :confused3 . Me..."No, but many people are going to get hurt or die when this hits so I'm worried." Her response..oh I see, yeah I guess.

I just don't get it? My SIL, and others that were there had no clue what was even going on...what do they do live in a vacuum???

[Donalds_best_pal]

Please pray for us! We are in mississippi. It suppose to go right through our home which is inland but we are suppose to get major hurricane winds. As you know we moved to florida kinda. My dad still is there with our new house that was built that has all our stuff and all our assets our there. My dad was planning on staying there this whole next year so thats why everything is there until we sell it. God only knows when we can sell it there. Our home is surrounded by big tall pine trees. I will pray for everyone else also. Keep us also in your prayers. I will keep ya updated.

Matt

[Free4Life11]

Ohh--I get it now..the NOLA NBC affiliate locked down their station and they are relocating to Jackson--and when they get there and set up, they will be back on the air.

They aren't hunkering down--they are leaving!

Now that is human and responsible and setting a good example for the audience!

Yep, the local news seems to have the most common sense.

It's not even the risk, it's the "I HAVE TO BE THERE FIRST AND GET THE SCOOP" that gets me. I also think this sets a bad example when you have officials earlier BEGGING people to get out and then you have the media jaunt on down for the "BIG STORY".

I get it now and I agree with you.

[Free4Life11]

I feel the same. I was just at my SIL's and my DD and MIL were watching TV. I asked to change to the weather Channel for a minute. MIL wanted to know why???? :confused3 . I told her because I wanted to see what the hurricane was doing. Another why from MIL. :confused3 So I said because it's a Catagory 5 with winds over 170 miles and headed right for New Orleans. She says "so!" :confused3 :confused3 . So I say well by tomorrow at this time NO might not be there anymore. Her comment was then "oh do you know people there or something? :confused3 . Me..."No, but many people are going to get hurt or die when this hits so I'm worried." Her response..oh I see, yeah I guess.

I just don't get it? My SIL, and others that were there had no clue what was even going on...what do they do live in a vacuum???

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL! I don't know what it is, but some people just DON'T seem to care. I understand not everyone craves news or has to watch it 24/7, but surely you'd want to at least know what is going on?

[MagicKingdom05]

I guess some people don't worry about things unless it has something directly to do with them.

[ladycollector]

I feel the same. I was just at my SIL's and my DD and MIL were watching TV. I asked to change to the weather Channel for a minute. MIL wanted to know why???? :confused3 . I told her because I wanted to see what the hurricane was doing. Another why from MIL. :confused3 So I said because it's a Catagory 5 with winds over 170 miles and headed right for New Orleans. She says "so!" :confused3 :confused3 . So I say well by tomorrow at this time NO might not be there anymore. Her comment was then "oh do you know people there or something? :confused3 . Me..."No, but many people are going to get hurt or die when this hits so I'm worried." Her response..oh I see, yeah I guess.

I just don't get it? My SIL, and others that were there had no clue what was even going on...what do they do live in a vacuum???

It is very, very sad. So selfish. Many people don't care, and it gets my blood boiling!!

[Shutterbug]

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL! I don't know what it is, but some people just DON'T seem to care. I understand not everyone craves news or has to watch it 24/7, but surely you'd want to at least know what is going on?

Oh yes I have run into those too...they only care with whats going on in their on little world.

The neighbors that were living next door at the time on 9/11 were complaining about football and baseball cancelled cause of "that thing in New York" :rolleyes:

[LoraJ]

Unlike its NATIONAL AFFILIATE with having Brian Williams swoop onto the scene. UGH can ya tell that is bugging me?????

Oh No! I have such a crush on him! (I have a thing for newscasters).

[paigevz]

I don't think they really understand what might happen. Even many who are there just "don't get it". And you would think they would with all their coverage. Some folks still have that invincible attitude they had as teens...........it wouldn't really happen. It's all abstract. There will be many people in shock afterwards........all over the country...........when they see what really can happen to anyone.

[Nancy]

Well, even my 12 year old knows what is going on. She has weatherbug on the computer and she's been checking the models all day right along with me and DH. His family though...they are a piece of cake, too wrapped up in their own little lives to worry about the rest. I only "know" people in that area through the internet...and anywhere that storm hits is going to horrendous. I'm not a very religious person, but I've been praying for everyone down there.

[Miss Jasmine]

Oh yes I have run into those too...they only care with whats going on in their on little world.

The neighbors that were living next door at the time on 9/11 were complaining about football and baseball cancelled cause of "that thing in New York" :rolleyes:
Okay that is just sick. :crazy2:

[cvemom]

It's so sad to watch. I suppose all we can do is watch and pray for tall those in Katrina's path. :grouphug:

[Tiggerlover91]

Just started raining here in Crestview. I'm so scared...to death! I've been through 4 major hurricanes, Hugo, Opal, Ivan, and Dennis, but Katrina has me scared to death as though I was right there in NO. :( I don't wish this storm on anyone, but if she would just take another WNW turn, she would miss NO and then maybe, just maybe, they could come out of this on top.

I know gas prices are going to be nasty...pure nasty, but you know what, I'll pay those gas prices and drive to NO to do what I can to help if I could. Think I'll go watch a couple of movies now as being here has my stomach in a knot! :guilty:

[kilee]

I think too many people just don't "get it". I know I've been sitting up in my room a better part of the evening flipping between the news stations. I don't think DH quite understands it. He seems concerned, but he looks at me like I'm obssessed when it's really concern for all those people.

[arminnie]

Well our evacuee from New Orleans missed a turn in Tallulah and is spending the night at a shelter in Northern LA at a Baptist Church. Much better than the SuperDome - she will have a/c, food, and water.

She will finish the drive to LR tomorrow morning. We were able to get hold of her sisters and mother and let them know that she was okay. She had originally refused to evacuate when they left. She doesn't have a cell phone so they had no way of contacting her, and she couldn't get through to them.

My condo (that I closed on a week ago!!) is on the 6th floor of a building on St. Charles. I don't have much in it yet - thank you Dillard's for messing up the furniture delivery last week. I left New Orleans on Wednesday when everything was still normal.

I have so many, many friends in New Orleans, and I don't know where most of them are. The one I was the most worried about who is almost 80 and is on oxygen did manage to get a plane out to her son's home in Dallas.

I'm not nearly as worried about my new home being destroyed as I am that my favorite city in the whole world may be destroyed.

[Miss Jasmine]

The 10 CDT Discussion is out.


Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on August 28, 2005



there are conflicting signals regarding the intensity of Katrina.
The NOAA aircraft near 00z reported a peak flight level wind of 155
kt...which would normally correspond to 140 kt at the surface. The
pressure remains extremely low...904 mb at last report. On the
other hand...the stepped-frequency microwave radiometer...or
SFMR...suggested winds were in the 120-130 kt range...and limited
dropsonde data also suggested something a little below 140 kt.
There are enough questions about the performance of the SFMR at
these speeds for ME to stick with the Standard 90 percent
adjustment for now.
There have been some modest changes in the structure of Katrina over
the last several hours. Recent microwave passes show that an outer
eyewall is in the formative stages...and the latest IR images show
a less well-defined eyewall with more evidence of outer banding.
The NOAA hurricane hunters also reported an erosion of the eyewall
in the southwest quadrant. These observations suggest that there
could be some weakening of Katrina prior to landfall. All this is
relative...however...and Katrina is still expected to be of at
least category four intensity when it reaches the coast. An eyewall
replacement at this point is not all good news...as they are
generally accompanied by a broadening of the wind field...so that
even as Katrina weakens there could be an increase in the area that
experiences major hurricane force winds.
There has been no significant change to the track forecast. The
initial motion is 335/9. Katrina is expected to gradually turn
northward into a break in the subtropical ridge associated with a
large mid-latitude cyclone near the Great Lakes. Model guidance
remains tightly clustered...with the NOGAPS shifting just a bit
east of its previous track. While there is great significance for
the city of New Orleans in the details of the track...track
anomolies of 30-50 miles are still possible even 12-18 hours out.
Forecaster Franklin


forecast positions and Max winds

initial 29/0300z 27.6n 89.4w 140 kt
12hr VT 29/1200z 29.2n 89.7w 135 kt
24hr VT 30/0000z 31.8n 89.5w 85 kt...inland
36hr VT 30/1200z 34.8n 88.1w 45 kt...inland
48hr VT 31/0000z 37.7n 85.9w 30 kt...inland
72hr VT 01/0000z 43.5n 78.5w 25 kt...inland
96hr VT 02/0000z 50.0n 70.0w 25 kt...extratropical
120hr VT 03/0000z...absorbed

[Shutterbug]

Geraldo is in communication with Maj John Gordon on a hurricane hunter aircraft that is flying in the hurricane right now!

He said the eye is 30 miles across!!!!
He is calling it a monster of a storm!!!!

He also confirmed the 140kts...which still translates to 160mph
Still a Cat 5.


God Bless those hurricane hunters!!!!!!!!!!

.

[Free4Life11]

Thanks for the update.

arminnie - I hope you're friends are all safe! Must be pretty scary not knowing...

[MagicKingdom05]

Well here we go the storm has just started hitting New Orleans.

[ktink]

Just a prayer for all of those in the path of this storm. :grouphug:

[bengalbelle]

Coming from a reporter at the Office of Emerg. Prep.
Some wind gusts registered at 190 mph :earseek:

Damage reports are coming in already. There is no electricity in Grand Isle or Buras and property has already been damaged. They have had winds there of 70-80 mph.

[bengalbelle]

WAFB in BR:
SW wall of eye may collapse, may go through replacement. They say it may be weakening a little, but if it does the winds will extend farther.

[Feralpeg]

They've been talking to people on the phone who've decided to stay in NO. One guy said he would just go upstairs. He thought he'd be safe because his house is concrete block and he would have a floor below him and an attic above him. I can't believe he thinks he will be safe. The roof will blow off and he won't have anywhere to go. This kind of thinking will cause many deaths.

[MagicKingdom05]

They just said the New Orleans will have hurricane winds for atleast the next 12 hours or so.

[Free4Life11]

Please pray for us! We are in mississippi. It suppose to go right through our home which is inland but we are suppose to get major hurricane winds. As you know we moved to florida kinda. My dad still is there with our new house that was built that has all our stuff and all our assets our there. My dad was planning on staying there this whole next year so thats why everything is there until we sell it. God only knows when we can sell it there. Our home is surrounded by big tall pine trees. I will pray for everyone else also. Keep us also in your prayers. I will keep ya updated.

Matt

Stay safe! Good luck and God bless!

[Tiggerlover91]

Please don't think me strange, but I sat right here at my computer with my eyes closed asking, pleading with the Father to weaken that hurricane! I asked Him to drop Katrina to a 3 a 2 anything that NO can handle and for the most part I asked Him to turn that storm and weaken it immensely at landfall. Can anyone else pray that same prayer too?

Blessings to all of you! I know what all of you are going through....I did it recently with Dennis, he took my home, :( and I've been through it with Ivan. Opal didn't phase us much, but Hugo was pretty scary. I'm more inland now here in Crestview, but still feel the pain of so many of you in NO. I hate this feeling, I just wish this storm would come and go or just disappear on there in the center of the Gulf somewhere.

Blessings again,

Denise

[CrazedDisFan]

Good night everyone, may the residents of the Gulf and their families be safe.

God bless us all. :grouphug:

[Free4Life11]

Fox News camera is shaking. This is going to be one long night for those in the path of Katrina. Good luck and God bless!

[bengalbelle]

WAFB in BR:
SW wall of eye may collapse, may go through replacement. They say it may be weakening a little, but if it does the winds will extend farther.
She's also slowing a bit which is not good.

[bengalbelle]

Please don't think me strange, but I sat right here at my computer with my eyes closed asking, pleading with the Father to weaken that hurricane! I asked Him to drop Katrina to a 3 a 2 anything that NO can handle and for the most part I asked Him to turn that storm and weaken it immensely at landfall. Can anyone else pray that same prayer too?

Blessings to all of you! I know what all of you are going through....I did it recently with Dennis, he took my home, :( and I've been through it with Ivan. Opal didn't phase us much, but Hugo was pretty scary. I'm more inland now here in Crestview, but still feel the pain of so many of you in NO. I hate this feeling, I just wish this storm would come and go or just disappear on there in the center of the Gulf somewhere.

Blessings again,

Denise

I remember your post about your home. I'm sure this is just reliving that nightmare for you. Thanks for all of the prayers.

[DisneyLovingMama]

Fox News is reporting that Katrina will be a CAT 4 upon landfall now, based on the 11:00 update. I only pray that it's true.

[MagicKingdom05]

Great that is all we need now is for the eye to go through another replacement cycle and pick up strength right before it goes on shore. However if what the 11 pm report said is correct then this might hit as a cat 4 instead. I know not much difference, but it is a smaller punch.

[Shutterbug]

Fox News is reporting that Katrina will be a CAT 4 upon landfall now, based on the 11:00 update. I only pray that it's true.

It will be a very strong cat 4 if does....they will still get hard....very very hard.

[Free4Life11]

Who all is planning on staying up tonight? I'll be on for a few more hours, but I need to get some sleep tonight. This is very scary.

[Tiggerlover91]

Great that is all we need now is for the eye to go through another replacement cycle and pick up strength right before it goes on shore. However if what the 11 pm report said is correct then this might hit as a cat 4 instead. I know not much difference, but it is a smaller punch.

Don't even speak it Jason...don't even think it. Instead do what I've been doing all day....pray...ask the Father to weaken Katrina or just simply make her disappear!

Isn't it heart-wrenching Jason?? I've been through this, as mentioned earlier, Dennis took my home, blessedly however Ivan and Dennis were only 3s. Had then been 5s however, we would have had a much better chance of survival here in Northwest FL than they do in NO....we aren't 6 feet BELOW sea level. :( Hitting a 4 is a tad better isn't it??? I just hope the Father heard my prayers for this storm to become a 3.

Blessings to you Jason!

Denise

[Miss Jasmine]

It will be a very strong cat 4 if does....they will still get hard....very very hard.
Anything over a 3 (and even a 3 is VERY IFFY) will be devestating for NO. And a 4 is plenty devestating, just ask the people who were hit by Charley last year. A lot of them are still in FEMA trailers. :(

[MagicKingdom05]

I will be for a while, but I know that tommorrow I will be up late getting the lates updates on this.

[kbkids]

Who all is planning on staying up tonight? I'll be on for a few more hours, but I need to get some sleep tonight. This is very scary.


I'll be up. DH just left for work, and I never sleep good when he's gone at night. I'm so behind on laundry and housework that I just thought I'd stay up. DH just called to get a number for Emergency Operations here because he's afraid that he won't be able to get back home when he gets off work in the morning, so he's trying to figure out if they are going to be closing the roads here. He saw several deputies sitting at the bridge that he will need to go back across.

[Shutterbug]

Great that is all we need now is for the eye to go through another replacement cycle and pick up strength right before it goes on shore. However if what the 11 pm report said is correct then this might hit as a cat 4 instead. I know not much difference, but it is a smaller punch.

Yes if she is starting her eye replacement now, she will be wound up and stronger when she pounds NO....sort of like a fighter winding up to deliver a knock out blow to his oppenent.

[Miss Jasmine]

Great that is all we need now is for the eye to go through another replacement cycle and pick up strength right before it goes on shore. However if what the 11 pm report said is correct then this might hit as a cat 4 instead. I know not much difference, but it is a smaller punch.
ERCs usually take six hours. six hours from now will be 5:00AM, it would complete ERC before landfall if it is actually going through one. :( They say it could be weakening, but knowing this scares me. They are the experts though.

[tekmom]

Everyone we knew in and around NO got out in time. All my family is in Mississippi, so I worry about the destruction through there as well. My husband's cousin, in Biloxi, left this morning and finally reached Tallahassee about an hour ago. I'll be up most of tonight watching the reports. :guilty:

[Miss Jasmine]

Well I am signing off. Will watch continuing coverage from bed. My continued prayers for everyone affected by Katrina. A special prayer goes out to the emergency workers.

[cynsaun]

Latest update from The Weather Channel said that the pressure was up to 908mb. This is awful. :guilty:

[Free4Life11]

What does that pressure reading mean??

[madge]

the lower the pressure, the worse the storm. 908 is extremely low pressure for a hurricane. I don't have the scientific links to explain it, pressure drops are bad.

[MoniqueU]

The hurricane continues to be a category 5. :earseek:
I just heard that on FOX

[cynsaun]

the lower the pressure, the worse the storm. 908 is extremely low pressure for a hurricane. I don't have the scientific links to explain it, pressure drops are bad.

Exactly. I tried to find a link, but I can't find one to better explain it.

[MoniqueU]

908 MBS makes this (if it holds up) the 2nd strongest hurricane (in terms of pressure) in history.

[madge]

908 MBS makes this (if it holds up) the 2nd strongest hurricane (in terms of pressure) in history.

this storm has lower pressure than Andrew & Camille. I believe I heard Mitch (?) is the storm that had lower pressure than Katrina. Not sure about that, though.

edited to add: Mitch had a pressure of 905mb.

[MagicKingdom05]

According to MSNBC it is now at 904 MBS which means it's falling more :( :( :( :(

[S. C.]

Please pray for us! We are in mississippi. It suppose to go right through our home which is inland but we are suppose to get major hurricane winds. As you know we moved to florida kinda. My dad still is there with our new house that was built that has all our stuff and all our assets our there. My dad was planning on staying there this whole next year so thats why everything is there until we sell it. God only knows when we can sell it there. Our home is surrounded by big tall pine trees. I will pray for everyone else also. Keep us also in your prayers. I will keep ya updated.

Matt
:grouphug: I just said a prayer for your family & everyone in the storms path. I will keep you all in my prayers.

[Nik's Mom]

I'm praying for the people in the path of this hurricaine!

[ktink]

They are saying on the Weather Channel that there will be a tornado threat as far north as Nashville, TN :earseek: We are just south of Nashville and normally we get rain from the hurricanes but I think that this proves how powerful this storm truly is. I pray for all of those in the direct path of this storm, it is truly a scary thing.

[ilovepcot]

They are saying on the Weather Channel that there will be a tornado threat as far north as Nashville, TN :earseek: We are just south of Nashville and normally we get rain from the hurricanes but I think that this proves how powerful this storm truly is. I pray for all of those in the direct path of this storm, it is truly a scary thing.



We have family in Spring Hill....you anywhere close to that?

[tekmom]

I believe that the only other hurricane in US history to have lower pressure was in 1935...forgot the name. Up until now, Camille was the one with the second lowest. Prayers for everyone in NO, Mississippi and Alabama coastal areas and beyond.

[MagicKingdom05]

Yes we forget about the Alabama and Mississippi areas, but they are going to get hit really hard by this storm as well.

[ktink]

We have family in Spring Hill....you anywhere close to that?


Well probably 60 miles or so south, we're in Shelbyville. :wave2:

[mt2]

Please stay safe everyone. Check in when you all get a chance. My prayers are with all of you in the area.

mt2

[ilovepcot]

Well probably 60 miles or so south, we're in Shelbyville. :wave2:


Oh, okay..... I'm familiar with it. Very pretty place! ::yes::

[Free4Life11]

The storm is expected to make landfall around 8 a.m. Eastern near New Orleans.

[MoniqueU]

Latest update has it at 161 mph and 908 mbs.

[Free4Life11]

Don't forget, gusts up to 191 MPH.

[MagicKingdom05]

Well, I'm off to bed. Please everyone who is in the storms path especially those who decided to stay home, be safe, stay inside and ride the storm out the best you can.

[Disneycrazymom]

Can anyone tell me how close Tunica is to NO? My inlaws left today for a little getaway at the casino. Until I sat down tonight to watch the news I didn't realize how awful this is going to be. They are on a bus tour and would not have access to any news.

To those in NO may God watch over you and protect you. Be brave and stay safe!

[Geoff_M]

I believe that the only other hurricane in US history to have lower pressure was in 1935...forgot the name. Up until now, Camille was the one with the second lowest.Naming hurricanes is a fairly "recent" convention. Back in 1935 they were probably still using the old naming convention of "The Great Hurricane of 1935".

Here's some wild data on this hurricane... It's from a wavebouy that's 64 nm South of Dauphin Island, AL. Twenty minutes ago it was showing 32ft swells: http://magicseaweed.com/Wave-Buoy/42040

[staci]

Mapquest.com says it is about 133 miles from Tunica to NO. I am from Iowa, I dont know if that is a good distance away in a hurricane such as this or not. I pray for everyones safety!

[magicfan]

To those in NO may God watch over you and protect you. Be brave and stay safe!

Prayers from us here, for the humans and animals. And may everyone have food and water and shelter.

[crazee4mickey]

We just cannot turn away from the TV has this horrific event approaches the Gulf coast--to all in the path of Hurricane Katrina our prayers are with you all--try to keep safe--our prayers and thoughts are with you all

[Disneycrazymom]

133 miles is too close for my comfort zone. Dh just got home and told me they wouldn't have taken the cell phone so there is no way to talk to them!

[Planogirl]

Live cam in New Orleans that appears to still be working for those interested:
http://www.nola.com/paradecam/index.ssf?video

[Free4Life11]

Well I am signing off for the night, I need to take a break from this as it's getting pretty heavy. To everyone in the path, stay safe, good luck, and God bless! To everyone who has friends and family in the area, keep the faith and stay strong! Will be waking up early to see what has happened...going to be a long night for a lot of people. My prayers are with them.

[MoniqueU]

MSNBC: The Holiday Inn Express in the French Quarter of NO is completely booked with families
You know pray for those poor kids. I can't even imagine why or how they are still there. This is just nuts. They should of gone to the Superdome at the least for the night!

[CourtasanSatine]

Any news on LSU? I just got a email from my friend and he has just gotten into Dallas(has family in DFW) and I'm trying to update him as I can. Also looking for info on Tulane(asking for same friend and he's not from NO)

[bengalbelle]

Any news on LSU? I just got a email from my friend and he has just gotten into Dallas(has family in DFW) and I'm trying to update him as I can. Also looking for info on Tulane(asking for same friend and he's not from NO)
Things are still pretty quiet in Baton Rouge. Don't know about Tulane.

[Planogirl]

All I found about Tulane was this bit about it closing:
Tulane University will close as of 5 p.m. Saturday. Classes will resume on Thursday, September 1

[Shutterbug]

Night all and to those in the path....take care, be safe......

[MoniqueU]

The first casulties have been reported. :( 3 senior citizens trying to flee New Orleans.
Also the line of traffic to get out of New Orleans is still heavy and stop and go. I hope people do not get stuck on the roads but it is becoming more and more likely.
Oil is also trading at 70 dollars a barrel overnight.

[Tinkerbelle739]

Pixie Dust and Prayers coming your way :wizard:

[shellbell]

I am from the UK and just wanted to stop by and send a lot of pixie dust your way. My thoughts and prayers are going out to everyone in Katrinas path. It makes me realise how lucky I am.

Michelle

[CourtasanSatine]

Thanks for the LSU/Tulane info. I'll keep checking in

[PixieDust32]

Amazing Image!


http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0508/katrina_goes12.jpg

[Tigger&Tink]

May God be watching over them all!



Tink

[totalia]

Well, I just spent a while talking to my fiance on the phone. He and his aunt are heading for Tuscaloosa Alabama and are going to stay the night. Neither one has slept much for the last couple days out of worry.

After that, they are headed out to Cooksville Tennessee to their family.

He's totally worried though. And so am I. He may have nothing to go back to. I mean, what if his apartment and his place of work are wiped off the map? It looks like the hurricane is going to land full force in the downtown area. The home office of his company is in the Corporate area only a couple blocks from the French Quarter. If its wiped out (or the French Quarter) it's going to affect his job and he may be out of work.

Totally worried. At least his physical life isn't in danger (well most likely anyway. Thinking maybe he should have just gone straight up to Tennessee since Tuscaloosa is going to catch part of the hurricane). But then, everything he owns and his job is.

This is so scarey. He says the last hurricane that was this bad was in the 60's.

Man, he and I have to have a little chat on where to live. I don't think NO is a good idea. I love the city very much. But the weather is too unpredictable. The last two years its just gotten worse and worse every year. And the chance of losing everything a person owns to a hurricane is just too high for my tolerance. Even if I go to the US instead of him coming to Canada, staying in NO isn't a good idea. And apparently he's thinking the same thing.

[MoniqueU]

Hang in there Totalia. I am still hoping that the damage won't be as bad as expected. As of right now the cam is still working. Thats got to be somewhat good news I think. http://www.nola.com/fqcam/ There is still some power on there somewhere at least.

[ladycollector]

I am thinking it will be difficult to get any information after the eye makes landfall. At least till the damage can be assesed.

We were supposed to be in New Orleans this weekend - we wanted to go to the aquarium and Audubon Zoo. That got me thinking, what do you think they did with all the animals and butterflies? I sure do hoped they shipped all of them out.

:guilty:

[MoniqueU]

As of now the levees are still holding. They just had a guy on Fox was live.
Now they are saying on fox that they are cautiously optimistic that maybe, just maybe the worst of the flooding they were expecting may not come!!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

They keep showing live shots of the superdome--will you believe there appears to be cars on the highway?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

some guy riding out the storm---calling into the station--says his neighbors roof has blown off.

[PixieDust32]

omg! :guilty:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

First deaths are in from last night--3 people that were being evacuated from a Nursing Home. They think maybe dehydration--but do not know the cause of death.

Just sharing--b/c earlier so many people said evacuate the nursing homes---this is why the decision should not be made lightly.

[Planogirl]

Good morning Lisa.

Unfortunately, the streetcar cam I was watching is now offline. So I presume that at least a part of the Garden District has lost power. At least I guess it was in that area since there were trees in the picture.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Try refresh--it went out for me and I refreshed and it came back.

I lost WDSU station--but I think it is my PC. I had to refresh the video but clicked cancel instead of okay---and lost my video :(.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

never mind--it's gone.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8004316/

msnbc live video (after they make you watch a commercial of course--tehn it is free.)

[MoniqueU]

Power still on in all areas of New Orleans, Power still on in Gulfport. Sheperard Smith on Fox saying he doesnt think this is going to be as bad as forecast for anyone. I sure hope he is right.

[Luv2Roam]

Well it is a Cat 4 now. Which is good, but still very bad.
There are ALWAYS people who freak at the last minute and try to run. Often they become fatalities.

[Shutterbug]

This buoy at 4:50am recorded a wave of 47 ft!!!!!!

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42040

[ducklite]

Good morning Lisa.

Unfortunately, the streetcar cam I was watching is now offline. So I presume that at least a part of the Garden District has lost power. At least I guess it was in that area since there were trees in the picture.

I tried calling my friends parents home, the machine didn't pick up which is a pretty good indication the power is out. They are on St. Charles near Louisiana Ave.

Anne

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Street lights are off on the superdome cam being showed on our news.

[ducklite]

First deaths are in from last night--3 people that were being evacuated from a Nursing Home. They think maybe dehydration--but do not know the cause of death.

Just sharing--b/c earlier so many people said evacuate the nursing homes---this is why the decision should not be made lightly.

Oh, that's inexcusable. One simply doesn't die from dehydration in a matter of hours. It can take days, even in an elderly or ill person. If indeed it was from dehydration I hope someone on the staff is brought up on criminal charges.

Anne

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Oh, that's inexcusable. One simply doesn't die from dehydration in a matter of hours. It can take days, even in an elderly or ill person. If indeed it was from dehydration I hope someone on the staff is brought up on criminal charges.

Anne

:confused3

They don't know what caused it---and if you are stuck in hours of traffic and are elderly....who knows.

They died b/c of the evacuation due to katrina.

[MoniqueU]

They say they have lost power at the Superdome.
Edited to add the emergency generators did kick in though.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Katrina has made landfall.

It is in Boothville now.

it is 50 miles south of Lake Ponchetrain

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Not sure my geography--but east jefferson county hospital has a foot of water and have already begun upwards evacuation.

[ducklite]

Not sure my geography--but east jefferson county hospital has a foot of water and have already begun upwards evacuation.

With all due respect, wouldn't it be "Jefferson Parish Hospital"? I think they have parishes, not counties in LA.

Anne

[Lisa loves Pooh]

With all due respect, wouldn't it be "Jefferson Parish Hospital"? I think they have parishes, not counties in LA.

Anne

I know it is parishes--I typed quickly and typed what they said on the news.

Very likely--it was not a person in louisiana saying this--so I dunno.

Jefferson---Hospital--the important detail.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

bankhead tunnel (I guess in Alabama) is already getting flooded with water--a shallow stream flowing through.

This is on channel 15 that they are showing a feed from on MSNBC

[MoniqueU]

Windows starting to blow out, air conditioners getting pulled out, alarms going off, shutters starting to blow off all in the french quarter now.
Lights still on though because the lights are all underground in the FQ. Not so in other areas of New Orleans.
They are expecting winds up to 120 MPH.

[Free4Life11]

Just woke up and turned on thew new. Fox has some idiot outside :shakes head:...looks bad. I couldn't sleep much.

[TXTink]

I'll be glad when this day is over!

Take care everyone!

[Free4Life11]

What channel is everyone watching? I'm switching between Fox and MSNBC, but neither are showing anything from NO, if that's even possible. CNN just said that there are only 8 to 9000 people in the Superdome??? The power failed at 5:02 a.m. Eastern time; the geneators kicked on limited lights, but no air conditioning.

How did everyone sleep? I slept alright, very lightly, but had HORRIBLE dreams. In fact the more I think about my dream the more creepy it was. Only woke up once.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I slept well--but I also slept through Hugo until my brother woke me up. Went out during the eye (not recommended of course)--and came back in and went to sleep just after the tree fell on our house (we knew it hit---but thought it hit in another portion--woke up to find it fell over where we were sleeping.)

CNN has got to be wrong with their numbers. The man in charge of the superdome has been interviewed several times.

I am wathching whoever is filling in for WWL and MSNBC--but both video links misbehaved, so now I'm watching nothing.

[Kitty 34]

What channel is everyone watching? I'm switching between Fox and MSNBC, but neither are showing anything from NO, if that's even possible. CNN just said that there are only 8 to 9000 people in the Superdome??? The power failed at 5:02 a.m. Eastern time; the geneators kicked on limited lights, but no air conditioning.

How did everyone sleep? I slept alright, very lightly, but had HORRIBLE dreams. In fact the more I think about my dream the more creepy it was. Only woke up once.


I keep switching between MSNBC, Weather Channel and CNN.

[MoniqueU]

Watching Foxnews.
No power now in the FQ even though the power lines are burried. Windows are still popping out.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Oh my--just got my homeschool group e-mail this morning...one of the members...her cousin lives in LA in one one of the evacuated parishes--and her due date is TODAY.

She didn't know what to do. Not sure what happened.

[Microcell]

FOX news has picture still. I am praying.

[Virgo10]

I thought this was interesting.

Hurricane Date - Pressure Peak Winds - Total no. of hours at Cat 5 - Total no. of hours winds 155+ knots

Gilbert Sep 13, 1988 888 mb (26.22 in) 160 knots 18 hours 6 hours

Florida Keys Sep 3, 1935 892 mb (26.34 in) 140 knots 3 hours 0 hours

Allen Aug 7, 1980 899 mb (26.55 in) 165 knots 24 / 24 /12 hours* 3 / 12 / 3 hours*

Mitch Oct 26, 1998 905 mb (26.73 in) 155 knots 33 hours 15 hours

Camille Aug 17, 1969 905 mb (26.73 in) 165 knots 24 hours 18 hours

Sorry this is a bit of a confusing layout. It was a graff and didn't copy very well. You get the idea. :)

[Free4Life11]

There's a lot of conflicting information the number of people in the superdome.

Fox has quite a few people out in the storm; seems crazy, the guy needs to just get inside. You could see in the background some cars driving -- insane because those wind gusts could just flip a car over or make you lose control! But then again so is standing out to report in a storm!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

WWL crews---and the mayor and emergency personnel--in the Hyatt Ballroom in NOLA.

[Free4Life11]

Has there been any news from Shepard Smith? Last I knew he was staying in a hotel in the French Quarter...?? Who is confirming that power is out and windows are blowing out??

[Lisa loves Pooh]

There's a lot of conflicting information the number of people in the superdome.

Fox has quite a few people out in the storm; seems crazy, the guy needs to just get inside. You could see in the background some cars driving -- insane because those wind gusts could just flip a car over or make you lose control! But then again so is standing out to report in a storm!

Crazy.

I do understand why the reporters go out--they do it to prove a point. When they get stupid though....then that isnt right.

I think people are just clueless despite warnings--and the sad thing is....they'll have they're story of how it was "nothing"--or they'll be the guest of honor at their funeral.

[MoniqueU]

Has there been any news from Shepard Smith? Last I knew he was staying in a hotel in the French Quarter...?? Who is confirming that power is out and windows are blowing out??
That is Shepard Smith reporting that from the Royal Sonesta. Sorry, should have been more clear.

[Free4Life11]

I agree Lisa! I don't care if it were a Category 1, I'd be worried! You can't play around with mother Nature. It truly is amazing how some people are so stubborn and refuse to listen to the experts -- they aren't called experts for a reason.

[Free4Life11]

That is Shepard Smith reporting that from the Royal Sonesta. Sorry, should have been more clear.

Thanks. Is his cellphone/satelite phone working?? I know he has a video phone, has he been able to get anything out?? I doube it...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

-- they aren't called experts for a reason.

They may have gotten their degree by mail meterology degree. :banana:

We must never assume that they are dumb as bricks.

They could be only just as dumb as rocks. :earboy2:

[Free4Life11]

:lol: very true, hehe. What's really scary is when the "experts" are all saying different things.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

:lol: very true, hehe. What's really scary is when the "experts" are all saying different things.

Don't worry--the one who "guessed" right--will have an ego the size of Texas and every station promo for the next 1 year will let people know that he or she got it right.

When really--it's just the lottery. They don't add in that promo the "we think" "they show" stuff---just the one little blip of "I think it will..." and then snippet the part that went on to say---"or do this....or we don't know, I've been wrong so far". :teeth:

[Free4Life11]

I'm interested to see how the networks will be covering this when the news starts at 7. I'm disappointed that they don't seem to have caught the story...at least I didn't see much from them. Something that has the potential to be so horrific, you'd think they'd be all over it!

[Free4Life11]

Msnbc Has Live Video Of New Orleans Right Now Turn It On!

ETA - looks like some of the street lights are still on, the sky looks blue, very little visibilitiy, rain looks bad, didn't seem like the street lights were shaking much.

Now they are showing Houma, LA and they are showing the roof of some large building that is starting to shake...looks like it may come loose.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

grr---gotta watch my benadryl commercial first. Grrr!

[Free4Life11]

I am kind of upset with our local news. They aren't giving this storm much coverage. Talking about the daily temp. here :rolleyes:. One station is focusing on it a lot, the other two are acting like it's just "another storm"...

[Free4Life11]

Fox News is having an interview with a Natl. Guard member in the Superdome. Things are calm inside, they got a decent supper last night. When the lights went out it flickered, then went dark for a second, backup power came on, people clapped for bit, everyone was pretty much expecting it to go at some point. I'm glad things are staying calm. The lack of air conditioning hasn't had too much of an effect so yet, but could get worse as the day goes on. There is "ambient" lighting now, but it isn't dark.

ETA - they got a good army meal last night; he said they have quite enough food and water to last for a good time, but no idea how long they could last in there.

ETA - the Superdome closed its doors last night at 11PM Central time.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

They are saying the pumps are failing. And they aren't even under water yet.

(homeland security in NOLA is saying this)

[Free4Life11]

Network news coverage has begun.

[Southern4sure]

They are saying the pumps are failing. And they aren't even under water yet.

(homeland security in NOLA is saying this)


This is horrible news! Lisa, where did you find this info?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

This is horrible news! Lisa, where did you find this info?


MSNBC live feed on the internet--whichever local station had it...they just switched to whoever channel 16 is (I think in Jackson) and they repeated what was said. I heard it--but when it was repeated, then I knew I heard right.

[MoniqueU]

Thanks. Is his cellphone/satelite phone working?? I know he has a video phone, has he been able to get anything out?? I doube it...
Yes, all the info I am reporting from the FQ is coming from Shepard Smith.

[Southern4sure]

MSNBC live feed on the internet--whichever local station had it...they just switched to whoever channel 16 is (I think in Jackson) and they repeated what was said. I heard it--but when it was repeated, then I knew I heard right.


A hurricane board I frequent just said the same thing. This is completely unexpected.

[bengalbelle]

Our electricity is flickering, so I'm just checking in.
I can't believe the wind we're having already. Trees look like they're about to snap in half. We've mainly had steady but not too heavy rain so far.

[arminnie]

I tried calling my friends parents home, the machine didn't pick up which is a pretty good indication the power is out. They are on St. Charles near Louisiana Ave.

Anne

My new home is on St. Charles between Louisiana and Napoleon. I don't have a clue what is going on there as I am in Little Rock (as is all of my stuff).

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Footage of new orleans--trees down by the hilton and a street sign. I suppose in close vicinity to whereever CBS' John Roberts is located.

[Free4Life11]

Our electricity is flickering, so I'm just checking in.
I can't believe the wind we're having already. Trees look like they're about to snap in half. We've mainly had steady but not too heavy rain so far.

Hang in there and stay safe!

[Southern4sure]

I've heard that at the Hyatt in New Orleans guests were moved down to the ball rooms because the windows are being blown out.

[SEAlla]

:hug: :angel: :grouphug:

[Free4Life11]

Some areas have had Tornado Warnings, indicating there has been a sighting or radar has shown what appears to be tornadic winds.

[Southern4sure]

My family is in Mobile. So far it isnt too bad, just alot of rain and gusts but they are told to expect conditions to get bad within a few hours and to expect to loose power.

[arminnie]

Just heard on the NBC feed that the SuperDome roof has just started leaking. There's water on the inside now.

[Free4Life11]

They are now saying the NE corner of the eye (apparently the worst) is going to be VERY close to Biloxi.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Strange sounds in the Superdome and "raining" in the dome--the waterproof layer might be "slapping" and not holding up. No "open sky"--but definitely a giving way of the protective means for the water to be kept out.

Ed Reams on the phone with channel 16 on MSNBC reporting this. He feels water on his head, like if standing outside in a sprinkling of rain. All just occurred as he was talking on the phone. Occurring only in one corner of the superdome at this time.

A possible shifting of people--but no imminent danger. Definitely not good at all. They will put people under the stands if necessary.

[Southern4sure]

They are now saying the NE corner of the eye (apparently the worst) is going to be VERY close to Biloxi.


Yup..just heard that.

[Free4Life11]

Just heard on the NBC feed that the SuperDome roof has just started leaking. There's water on the inside now.

Uh oh, that can't be good. Haven't heard anything yet....was that on WWLTV.com??

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Uh oh, that can't be good. Haven't heard anything yet....was that on WWLTV.com??

MSNBC had it with their feed......


And an important note--it is a REFUGE--and not a shelter....REFUGE of last resort. They are emphasizing this now. (was emphasized before--but the news media didn't empasize it this way).

[Miss Jasmine]

Our electricity is flickering, so I'm just checking in.
I can't believe the wind we're having already. Trees look like they're about to snap in half. We've mainly had steady but not too heavy rain so far.
I know how scary this can be. :hug:

[Free4Life11]

It's hard to keep up with this; all the channels are reporting different things.

There is going to be a press conferece at 7:30 a.m. with the New Orleans mayor.

317K people without power as of 6 a.m. this morning.

[Miss Jasmine]

Thanks for all the updates you all. This will be my only source for a little bit as I am preparing for a 9:00 meeting and can't scan all the sites.

[Free4Life11]

MSNBC had it with their feed......


And an important note--it is a REFUGE--and not a shelter....REFUGE of last resort. They are emphasizing this now. (was emphasized before--but the news media didn't empasize it this way).

Yeah, they don't seem to be emphasizing this. CNN was talking about food and I was thinking that they don't need to be worrying about food until this thing is OVER.

[Southern4sure]

MSNBC had it with their feed......


And an important note--it is a REFUGE--and not a shelter....REFUGE of last resort. They are emphasizing this now. (was emphasized before--but the news media didn't empasize it this way).


::yes::

Quote from flhurricane.com

WAPT in Jackson is streaming it's coverage. They have a reporter doing a live report right now from the SuperDome. He has just reported that something on the roof has given way and water is now coming into the building from the roof. He said people are moving from the stands to more protected areas. The reporter said he is very nervous and has covered storms for many years. He just said he can feel water falling on his head. Like a sprinking now, but getting heavier. It is only in one section of the Dome, but it is very worrying. "People are trying to remain calm. They are trying to make their way from the plaza level to where the concrete reinforced concessions are. The sprinkling is now more like a thunderstorm getting ready to come."

[Miss Jasmine]

ack that is not good, once a roof is compromised, well ya know. :(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Yeah, they don't seem to be emphasizing this. CNN was talking about food and I was thinking that they don't need to be worrying about food until this thing is OVER.


The anchors on MSNBC is emphasizing that--I think whoever they spoke with was the inside link. If you don't have an "in"--you don't know what is going on yet. In the mean time--they do look silly talking about the cuisine.

[Free4Life11]

Good thing they are emphasizing that. MSNBC has been having a live view of a bridge in N.O. and it looks pretty bad; visibility couldn't be more than a few hundred feet...it's errie because it looks like the bridge just goes into the fog...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

NBC has a reporter in a parking garage doing a live from NOLA video feed right now. It is HOWLING!!!!!

[Free4Life11]

Word from the mayor is that some pumps HAVE stopped working. The storm wont hit N.O. head on as expected, but still going to be bad.

MSNBC just said 8K in the Superdome...not sure where this number came from, because yesterday they kept saying 20-30K.

[ducklite]

Oh my--just got my homeschool group e-mail this morning...one of the members...her cousin lives in LA in one one of the evacuated parishes--and her due date is TODAY.

She didn't know what to do. Not sure what happened.

First off, don't panic. Many babies come early or late, especially when times are stressful. Babies have been born outside of hospitals with no problem for all of time, and it's quite safe except in high risk pregnancies. There are shelters set up specifically for people with special needs. They are generally less crowded, and staffed with folks who have training in first aid and caregiving. Often in cases like this, patients are directed by their doctors or the shelters to go to hospitals in a safe area, where they will stay until the danger has passed.

Anne

[Southern4sure]

NBC has a reporter in a parking garage doing a live from NOLA video feed right now. It is HOWLING!!!!!


It that the Hyatt?

[Free4Life11]

NBC has a reporter in a parking garage doing a live from NOLA video feed right now. It is HOWLING!!!!!

OMG. That is severe....I would be terrified if I were that reported! He is going ot get some serious hazard pay I hope! Wow! I hope the networks don't put their employees at risk just trying to get some video...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OMG. That is severe....I would be terrified if I were that reported! He is going ot get some serious hazard pay I hope! Wow! I hope the networks don't put their employees at risk just trying to get some video...


I don't really think so---I think it is usually up to the reporter to assess the feasibility of a shot.

[Free4Life11]

Julie Chen of CBS' "The Early Show" was just interviewing "Kitchen Makeover Winners." Give me a break. :rolleyes:

ETA - now they are doing some other story. They don't even have a radar in the corner on anything!! Are they not aware of the situation?

[Free4Life11]

I don't really think so---I think it is usually up to the reporter to assess the feasibility of a shot.

Ok good. I'd hate to see someone get hurt just trying to report...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Julie Chen of CBS' "The Early Show" was just interviewing "Kitchen Makeover Winners." Give me a break. :rolleyes:

That's okay--yesterday under mandatory evac---WWL was showing car commercials :teeth: .

Though--I wouldn't be buying a car from a dealership in NOLA anytime soon.

[LoraJ]

This is so horrible. :(

I really hope there is something left of my boyfriend's parent's home. They never got a chance to put up boards or shutters and take their valuables.

But at least they are safe in TX.

[Free4Life11]

I'm wondering when Fox's Steve Harrigan will take cover. It's looking really treacherous.

LoraJ - I'm glad they are safe; hopefully they will have something to return to!

[Free4Life11]

ABC News has someone in the Superdome. They are telling people to move quickly to the endzones....Natl. guard members are using megaphones to tell people to move. Apparently the water is rushing in now and sounds like a waterfall; the reporter said it is like a waterfall.

ETA - windows in the hotels are being blown out and people are very scared; they are movings guests into the hallways. ABC REALLY has to fix their live news graphic...it's confusing.

[Claire L]

I'm wondering when Fox's Steve Harrigan will take cover. It's looking really treacherous.


He really is getting a battering, thought the guttering nearly hit him as well!!!

Claire

[Free4Life11]

Bryan Williams is on the phone on NBC from the Superdome.

ETA - they have been hearing a banging, and watching the roof panels lifting up and coming down. They can see daylight sometimes. There is a 1-2 foot section that is peeled open; water is pouring in. People were sleeping and starting running towards the cement overhangs. NBC cameras were rolling when it happened, but they can't transmit anything; they are going to try and e-mail a photo.

[lazarru]

Is there any on-line coverage that anyone is able to pick up?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

not on msnbc right now.

[Free4Life11]

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

[Free4Life11]

There is mist swirling in the air in the Superdome. God help those people, they must be scared to death. Those poor kids...NBC is still reporting 9K people....what happened to the other 11K-21K people?!?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

they are talking about the superdome.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

There is mist swirling in the air in the Superdome. God help those people, they must be scared to death. Those poor kids...NBC is still reporting 9K people....what happened to the other 11K-21K people?!?


:confused3

They say they have MRE's--maybe they are estimating based on what they've distributed.

They have 350,000 MRE's

[Lisa loves Pooh]

winds have slowed to 135mph.

[Free4Life11]

MSNBC video - Mobile, AL is flooding. Looks to be at least a few feet of water rushing down the streets...video looks to be from overnight and is it dark out.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

WWL now are clueless--they are downplaying the superdome trying to say that it might be something really simple. Their producer really needs to be checking all their feeds!

[Free4Life11]

Bryan Williams is talking with MSNBC right now. There are now at least two holes along one seam in the roof. They head a terrible noise as the roof panels were being lifted...about 6 minutes ago the wind peeled one section and now another section has opened. Low level cameras are taking video and they are taking still photos, still trying to e-mail one. Quote: "A heck of a lot of precipitation" is coming in and the mists are still circulating all around. Bryan Williams does not think anyone is in great danger.

ETA - the facilities are overwhelmed, but the Natl. Guard is going to start distruibuting water and MRE's. Their main concern though is the holes in the roof.

ETA - another small section just opened up; this brings it to three holes in the roof.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm sure they will be fine--but raining in the superdome...is a little more than "nothing" LOL!

[Claire L]

www.wdsu.com is reporting that the Superdome roof may come in, not good :(
Claire

[Free4Life11]

I'm sure they will be fine--but raining in the superdome...is a little more than "nothing" LOL!

Yeah really. I hope that it doesn't get worse; I just hope Katrina moves quickly.

BREAKING NEWS -- I believe MSNBC just received a still image of the Superdome!!!

[Free4Life11]

Yes MSNBC right now has a still photo! You can cleary see two bright spots at the top of the picture; these are the holes. There is one weak seam where it is opening up...

[diznygirl]

Hi guys - been checking this thread for updates as my kids only want to see cartoons.

I am sooo concerned about those people in the Superdome.