Hurricane Katrina..The Crisis continues...Disastrous damage and flooding

[Luv2Roam]

I wonder when the shelters close.
I just hope that the SuperDome withstands the weather and potential debris.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hey I'm not knocking the bar owners, but it just seems some people are so irresponsible and then they get mad at the city and whatnot...as far as no place to go, I heard a list of shelters, including the SuperDome, early this morning.

Superdome was listed as a medical needs only shelter this a.m. At some point they changed it.


This is precisely why there is no such thing as suing the government for poor plans---b/c it is ultimately a personal decision....and if they wish to be drunk on bourbon street---at least their death may not be as painful as if they were sober. Sickening thought...but whatever floats their boat!

[totalia]

The carriage rides are all privately owned. So, whatever it is that the owners do with their horses is what they will do lol.

[Free4Life11]

Wouldn't a big arena have back up generators? I can't imagine spending God-knows-what to build that and not have some back up systems...

I just don't like people getting drunk and then getting mad saying they have no where to go. The city is doing everything they can and the last thing they need is a bunch of drunks getting angry at people! I'm sorry but it's not going to help the situation.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

shelters close when they reach capacity.

[floridafam]

LisaLovesPooh,

Wow. I was pregnant during Jeanne so we didn't have to worry about the bottle thing.

We were lucky enough to get a generator and gasoline from DH's employer.

I can't imagine going through this with a baby. Our DD doesn't nurse anymore so I'm out of luck in that area.


Stay safe everyone :grouphug:

[Free4Life11]

Superdome was listed as a medical needs only shelter this a.m. At some point they changed it.

Didn't realize that...thanks for clearing that up. I guess I just can't imagine spending the hours before a hurricane getting drunk. Not my first choice, but like you said, whatever floats your boat.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Wouldn't a big arena have back up generators? I can't imagine spending God-knows-what to build that and not have some back up systems...

I just don't like people getting drunk and then getting mad saying they have no where to go. The city is doing everything they can and the last thing they need is a bunch of drunks getting angry at people! I'm sorry but it's not going to help the situation.

Nothing more than battery operated emergency exits/lights I would imagine.

Schools don't really have them either and they are used for shelters.

Last I checked--a football game was not a necessity--so not a real need to have back up equipment to continue power in the event of an outage.

[phorsenuf]

Regarding that message from NOAA, can anyone confirm that besides going thru that link? I went to NOAA's website directily to find it and couldn't. Its not a hoax is it? I've never heard anything like that before.

[Free4Life11]

I'm sorry, you probably think I'm a nutcase, I just get really worked up about things like this and am not thinking straight! It just makes me sick thinking of people who have nowhere to go! I'm so nervous for these people and scared, so please forgive any stupid comments I make!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

LisaLovesPooh,

Wow. I was pregnant during Jeanne so we didn't have to worry about the bottle thing.

We were lucky enough to get a generator and gasoline from DH's employer.

I can't imagine going through this with a baby. Our DD doesn't nurse anymore so I'm out of luck in that area.


Stay safe everyone :grouphug:


So you would stock up on bottled water and powdered formula--or the individual already made disposable bottels--or liner bottles with disposable liners---reserve water to boil so that you can sanitize your bottles (boil on a grill or propane stove) and voila!

It ain't luxury--but it is camping, hurricane style.

This is why they strongly suggest getting your hurricane kit together for your family and you customize it per your families needs.

[jlbower79]

Hey guys! I made it to my mothers home... even went wal mart shopping this morning before it closed at 12... they marked everything down, there was hardy any meat left... no water... not too crowded. We're ready though, I do get tearly eyed when I think of New Orleans and then of the ppl who couldn't get out or of ppl and their homes... The wind can knock over a "train"... it's going ot be soooooo scarey, so far our wind will be 150mph. I can already hear a little thunder.... She's suppost to come right on top of us...

talk to you guys later.
Jaime

:worried: :worried:

[bengalbelle]

They're now saying Baton Rouge will experience winds of 50+ mph with gusts up to 70.


Saying now if there was such a thing as a category 6 hurricane, this one would probably qualify!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Regarding that message from NOAA, can anyone confirm that besides going thru that link? I went to NOAA's website directily to find it and couldn't. Its not a hoax is it? I've never heard anything like that before.


It's not in that link anymore and you are the 2nd person that has said this.

No idea at all.

[Luv2Roam]

Jaime, you and everyone in the path will be in our thoughts and prayers.
Take care and check in when you can.
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[wednesday]

Hey guys! I made it to my mothers home... even went wal mart shopping this morning before it closed at 12... they marked everything down, there was hardy any meat left... no water... not too crowded. We're ready though, I do get tearly eyed when I think of New Orleans and then of the ppl who couldn't get out or of ppl and their homes... The wind can knock over a "train"... it's going ot be soooooo scarey, so far our wind will be 150mph. I can already hear a little thunder.... She's suppost to come right on top of us...

talk to you guys later.
Jaime

:worried: :worried:
I know how scary it is. Stay Safe..hope you have those cute puppies in your sig with you keeping them safe too. :umbrella:

[phorsenuf]

It's not in that link anymore and you are the 2nd person that has said this.

No idea at all.

Gee....sorry....

[floridafam]

Lisa Loves Pooh,

That's not a bad idea.

We already have water, canned food, batteries, flashlights, plywood, etc. and a few cans of formula but I think I am going to buy some more next week just to be safe.

jlbower79,

I'm glad you are safe. Let us know how you are doing tomorrow. :grouphug:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm sorry, you probably think I'm a nutcase, I just get really worked up about things like this and am not thinking straight! It just makes me sick thinking of people who have nowhere to go! I'm so nervous for these people and scared, so please forgive any stupid comments I make!


No worries--just keeping up with the thread!

No comment is stupid unless you are saying--"standing on bourbon street is the most logical thing to do for the next 12-24 hours"

:teeth:

one can evacuate with the hurricane mix and make some drinks at the motel 6 in iowa :banana: .

[bengalbelle]

Sen. Mary Landrieu saying don't compare Katrina to Betsy or any other hurricane. That was a long time ago and the coastline and marshlands have deteriorated since then. Also much more concrete in New Orleans. This will be much worse. Could be the Storm of the Century for New Orleans, but we're as ready as we can be.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Gee....sorry....

OMG---I dont' mean to sound snippy--wasn't my intent.

The same bulletin was posted way earlier in thread and someone had the same problem. Someone posted the link you saw and then the bulletin again--so I assumed it was real (bulletin appeared in link)--now we are back to wondering if it is a hoax again.

No worries!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hey guys! I made it to my mothers home... even went wal mart shopping this morning before it closed at 12... they marked everything down, there was hardy any meat left... no water... not too crowded. We're ready though, I do get tearly eyed when I think of New Orleans and then of the ppl who couldn't get out or of ppl and their homes... The wind can knock over a "train"... it's going ot be soooooo scarey, so far our wind will be 150mph. I can already hear a little thunder.... She's suppost to come right on top of us...

talk to you guys later.
Jaime

:worried: :worried:

Stay safe! Where did you end up (how far from home) and how long did it take you to get there (and ordinarily).

Keep us posted, but stay safe!

[Free4Life11]

Oh my God! Did anyone just see the kids on Fox news! They were standing on the edge of the pier with the waves crashed off....I'm surprised they didn't get washed over... ::shakes head::

[MagicKingdom05]

bengalbelle,

Yep. On one of the shows, they mentioned how this goes way past being a cat 5 hurricane, but since the system only goes that far, that's what they have to go by. You can't compare this storm to anyother one, because this more than likely is going to be that once in a life time storm that many have been predicting for some time now.

[floridafam]

I can't believe the news channels that continue to show these idiots.

They keep showing the people walking in knee high water around downed power poles, too. :rolleyes:

I'm waiting for the first post hurricane "my cable is out" story. One of the stations in Orlando ran a story last year 2 days after Frances interviewing some guy who was ticked his cable was still out. Most of his neighbors didn't even have power yet. :rolleyes1

[Lisa loves Pooh]

What's a minimum Cat 5.

Watching fox news at the airport when I dropped off hubby---they were calling it a 5 and a half. Not that there is such a rating.

[kbkids]

Oh my God! Did anyone just see the kids on Fox news! They were standing on the edge of the pier with the waves crashed off....I'm surprised they didn't get washed over... ::shakes head::

Yeh - they were showing them earlier today. Really scary part - that's in Orange Beach, AL (Gulf Shores). If it was that bad there earlier today - just think?

[MagicKingdom05]

Free4Life11,

I saw that earlier and my reaction was the same. Apparently some people think this is a party. Reminds me of that scene in Indepenance Day where they all go up to the top of the roof to great the aliens and they all get blasted away.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I can't believe the news channels that continue to show these idiots.

They keep showing the people walking in knee high water around downed power poles, too. :rolleyes:

I'm waiting for the first post hurricane "my cable is out" story. One of the stations in Orlando ran a story last year 2 days after Frances interviewing some guy who was ticked his cable was still out. Most of his neighbors didn't even have power yet. :rolleyes1

With all the critters--I'm sure the next complaint is why they haven't heard from Orkin, yet?

[kbkids]

What's a minimum Cat 5.

Watching fox news at the airport when I dropped off hubby---they were calling it a 5 and a half. Not that there is such a rating.



150 and above

[floridafam]

There was a movie out a few years ago about the power being out for a really long time. People got really crazy. I think it had Elizabeth Shue in it.

I kept thinking of that movie last year. I know most people are decent but some people will do crazy things if they don't have basic needs like food and water.

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Anything with sustained wins of 155+ is considered a cat 5. As this gets closer somebody will come up with something to show how this is not a cat 5, but much much worse.

[Free4Life11]

People just don't get it. We grew up in Duluth, MN and my mom told me a story of how some kids got washed right over the edge of the pier in a big storm. Where are their parents?? There's still time to get out....

[MagicKingdom05]

Who says that want to get out. It's fun and game time for them and the are in New Orleans so what's more fun to party or to leave and save your life. I'm sure some of the people at the bars are college students whose parents don't have a clue to where they are and won't know until it's to late when they get a call on the phone saying that there son or daughters body has just been found.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Who says that want to get out. It's fun and game time for them and the are in New Orleans so what's more fun to party or to leave and save your life.

In all fairness--one or two idiots on bourbon street does not provide a great sampling of why they are all down there.

Hotels and guests are not under mandatory evac--they could just be goofing off until they get holed up in their hotel room.

[cynsaun]

Who says that want to get out. It's fun and game time for them and the are in New Orleans so what's more fun to party or to leave and save your life.


It is just crazy! I can't even imagine. Here's what scares me now. These people chose not to leave, but to drink instead. Now, they will be drunk when the hurricane hits, and they may not have their wits about them to try to stay as safe as they can.

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

I know that I'm being hard on them, but I have a feeling there are alot more people down there drinking and having a good time who could leave then those who can't. I could be wrong, but I just have a feeling that I'm not.

[MinnieM3]

So you would stock up on bottled water and powdered formula--or the individual already made disposable bottels--or liner bottles with disposable liners---reserve water to boil so that you can sanitize your bottles (boil on a grill or propane stove) and voila!

It ain't luxury--but it is camping, hurricane style.

This is why they strongly suggest getting your hurricane kit together for your family and you customize it per your families needs.

With Hugo, my Ds was 10 months and i used disposable bottle liners and the cans of formula. unfortunately, in the hurrying to get out, I brought the bottles and no liners! UGH! We were able to find some later, but he was eating some solid food by then, too. I also forgot to being underwear for myself. Sheesh! I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I can only imagine and pray, pray, pray that God holds these people in his hands during the storm and keeps them safe. God bless you!

[Talking Hands]

Cat 5 starts as at 155mph Each Cat seems to go up abpout 20 mph so Katrina would have hit Cat 6 at 175mph if there was a Cat 6.

[MagicKingdom05]

Talking Hands,

That's where it was for most of the day until just a little while ago when it went down to 165-167 MPH.

[mamalle]

we all have to say our prayers- as this will be devastating to all that are in its path tomorrow morning.

[TXTink]

This is the start of a long night, God bless to all those in harms way if this storm. I really feel for all of those in NO right now! Mississippi is going to get hit hard too. Oh my......

[Shutterbug]

From the 5pm Discussion

000
WTNT42 KNHC 282047
TCDAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 24
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SUN AUG 28 2005

KATRINA IS MAINTAINING A CLASSIC PRESENTATION ON SATELLITE
IMAGES...AND CATEGORY 5 INTENSITY. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED
BY A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE AT 1755Z AND 1923Z WAS 902
MB...WHICH IS THE FOURTH LOWEST ON RECORD IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN
BEHIND HURRICANE GILBERT OF 1988...THE LABOR DAY HURRICANE OF
1935...AND HURRICANE ALLEN OF 1980. HAVING SAID THAT...DATA FROM
THE STEPPED-FREQUENCY MICROWAVE RADIOMETER INSTRUMENT ON BOARD THE
AIRCRAFT SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE TO 700 MB FLIGHT LEVEL WIND RATIO
IS NOT QUITE AS LARGE AS WE TYPICALLY USE...AND THE INITIAL
INTENSITY IS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO 145 KT. HURRICANES DO NOT
MAINTAIN SUCH GREAT INTENSITY FOR VERY LONG. HOWEVER THERE ARE NO
OBVIOUS LARGE-SCALE MECHANISMS...SUCH AS INCREASED VERTICAL
SHEAR...TO WEAKEN KATRINA. THE HURRICANE IS LIKELY TO MAKE
LANDFALL WITH CATEGORY 4 OR 5 INTENSITY.

THERE IS NOT MUCH CHANGE TO THE TRACK FORECAST PHILOSOPHY. INITIAL
MOTION IS ABOUT 315/11. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY TURN
NORTHWARD INTO A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ASSOCIATED WITH A
LARGE MID-LATITUDE CYCLONE NEAR THE GREAT LAKES. THE 12Z GFDL
HURRICANE MODEL'S TRACK HAS SHIFTED A LITTLE WESTWARD...AS HAS THE
LATEST NOGAPS RUN. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST
AND SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS NHC TRACK. THIS IS VERY
CLOSE TO BOTH THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS... AND TO THE LATEST
FSU SUPERENSEMBLE TRACK. AMONG OUR MOST RELIABLE MODELS...ONLY THE
U.K. MET. OFFICE IS SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE EAST OF THE OFFICIAL
FORECAST TRACK. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SMALL CHANGE IN THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS ESSENTIALLY AT THE NOISE LEVEL. ONE
SHOULD NOT FOCUS ON THE EXACT TRACK...PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF A
HURRICANE AS LARGE AS THIS ONE. DESTRUCTIVE EFFECTS WILL LIKELY BE
FELT WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER AND IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SPECIFY
WHICH COUNTIES OR PARISHES WILL EXPERIENCE THE WORST CONDITIONS.

ON THE BASIS OF AIRCRAFT FLIGHT LEVEL AND SFMR SURFACE WIND
DATA...THE WIND RADII HAVE BEEN EXPANDED EVEN MORE OVER THE
NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE FORECAST TO SPREAD
AT LEAST 150 N MI INLAND ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA. CONSULT INLAND
HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS ISSUED BY NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE FORECAST OFFICES.

FORECASTER PASCH

[Free4Life11]

Say a prayer for the Natl. Guard too. They've got tens of thousands of people to get into the Superdome as fast as possible and after standing in line for hours, people could get pretty uneasy. Just pray for peace and safety.

[ca859093]

There was a movie out a few years ago about the power being out for a really long time. People got really crazy. I think it had Elizabeth Shue in it.

I kept thinking of that movie last year. I know most people are decent but some people will do crazy things if they don't have basic needs like food and water.


Well speaking from experience (at least my DH experience) alot of people are not decent after a hurricane and have no power. My DH is a lineman and when he worked the Florida hurricanes last year, they had to have a national gaurdsman or cop follow them everywhere, because people were trying to harm them. I am not saying everyone was like that, but he said the people just got crazy. He said it couldn't imagine all that he saw last year, he is not looking forward to what he will see with this, when he goes out.
Anyone that loses power please be patient, most of these guys are working 20 hour days, running on 4 hours of sleep and risking their lives to turn on your power. (lack of sleep + electricity can = death)
So give some slack to all the people that are working to help you out. (police, national gaurd, fire, ect.)
Stay safe all that are in the area of Katrina. :goodvibes

[Lisa loves Pooh]

This is the scariest thing I have ever read in regards to weather.

DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED

HURRICANE KATRINA
A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!

This blip in question was just read on the news---it is not a hoax update.

[wednesday]

I noticed on NOAA's website that there is now a tropical depression 13 and another suspect area. I am seriously hoping that we don't end up with another hurricane or two on Katrina's heels. :sad2:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Katrina's evil step-siblings can just stay depressions!

[floridafam]

ca859093,

I'm sorry your Dh had to deal with people like that. DH had to deal with a few, too and he doesn't even work for the power company.

We were so happy when a crew hooked up power that we took them some food. They were just down the street and they were very happy to have it.

There were power trucks here from almost every state in the US. It was really amazing.

[Shutterbug]

http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/archive/forecast/AL122005lts.gif

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Slidell area--law enforcement officials being pulled of the streets when winds reach 40-50 mph (a little varied--depends on what the conditions are at that time). No services until wind speeds fall below that point.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

NOLA mayor on WWL right now--he says evacuations have picked up and he is filling more comfortable about the status of evacuations.

[cynsaun]

Wow! Fox News is interviewing a guy from Austrailia, and a lady from England, both waiting to get in to the Superdome. What a great vacation!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

6pm last bus pickups at the 12 stops---curfew in place, limited police, no EMS. He says winds will be starting to pick up.


cynsaun--hope they take pictures for the scrapbook. I'm wondering what they heck they are going to do for food. Did they bring any?

[cynsaun]

No kidding, Lisa! They had big backpacks, so I am hoping they had supplies in there.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

a week or two to get water out if (when) the levvies break.

6 week estimation for power.

[wednesday]

I saw them, LOL when asked about the American hospitality the Aussie said "He reckoned it was good" He was in Miami when Katrina hit there and had just arrived in New Orleans...talk about bad luck (hope he isn't planning on visiting central FL)

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I saw them, LOL when asked about the American hospitality the Aussie said "He reckoned it was good" He was in Miami when Katrina hit there and had just arrived in New Orleans...talk about bad luck (hope he isn't planning on visiting central FL)

WTH---his travel agent wasn't named Katrina, too--was she?

Wow! What a story. That tops the wedding from yesterday with the bride named Katrina who had a thought earlier in the year that her hurricane would come on her wedding day.

[Free4Life11]

What makes me mad is I am talking to my friend online and they don't seem to care! Hello, we're talking about a catastrophe here! Some people can just be so selfish...

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

As far as the power goes, they are saying that it just won't be power lines that go down, but the grid itself will be completely wiped out and will need to be rebuilt.

[Free4Life11]

This reminds me of that movie "The Day After Tommorow" minus the cold.

I heard on the TV that they could have one million + "refugees" with nowhere to go...where will they put them all? Does FEMA have the resources to provide for this number of people??

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Lisa loves Pooh,

As far as the power goes, they are saying that it just won't be power lines that go down, but the grid itself will be completely wiped out and will need to be rebuilt.

hadn't even thought of that--I thought that the water would delay the restoration of power anyway--and can't restore until you *****--and you can't asssess if the power was underwater. Yikes!

They had to rebuild some of the grid after Charlie too in the Orlando area---cannot imagine an incredibly larger area.

ETA: evidently a synomym for "check the damage"----looks like a plural profane word for tushy. :blush:

[cynsaun]

What makes me mad is I am talking to my friend online and they don't seem to care! Hello, we're talking about a catastrophe here! Some people can just be so selfish...

It's so stupid! They all seem to be taking for granted that this hurricane will turn, or lose intensity. There are going to be a lot of fatalities because people chose not to evacuate.

I just can't understand this reasoning!

[HayGan]

I can't get over the size of this storm. That Katrina is a big girl! She takes up more than half of the gulf. :earseek:

[wednesday]

WTH---his travel agent wasn't named Katrina, too--was she?

Wow! What a story. That tops the wedding from yesterday with the bride named Katrina who had a thought earlier in the year that her hurricane would come on her wedding day.

Probably, LOL I am just dissapointed Wendy isn't on the list this year because we are well on our way to making it to W. Speaking of Aussies my friend from over there IM'd me this morning all worried because he saw it on the news and it looked like it was heading right for me... makes you wonder about the foreign tourists families, they must be worried sick and are probably not getting the full news story that we are.

[MagicKingdom05]

They won't even beable to esses the damages until the water gets pumped out if it needs to be and that could take weeks to figure out how to do that. Once that is done then they will beable to see what kind of damage was done to the grid and if it can be saved which it probably won't.

[HayGan]

This reminds me of that movie "The Day After Tommorow" minus the cold.

I heard on the TV that they could have one million + "refugees" with nowhere to go...where will they put them all? Does FEMA have the resources to provide for this number of people??

FEMA has been preparing for years for a catastrophy of this magnitude but even all the planning in the world can't prepare you to deal with 500,000+ homeless people overnight in an area still riddled with water and devistation.

[MagicKingdom05]

HayGan,

They said the size of the storm is atleast 400 miles wide which form what they said is about the same size as driving from New Orleans to Atlanta.

[snappy]

They won't even beable to esses the damages until the water gets pumped out if it needs to be and that could take weeks to figure out how to do that. Once that is done then they will beable to see what kind of damage was done to the grid and if it can be saved which it probably won't.


It will take a while INHO. The existing pumps will be under water.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

This reminds me of that movie "The Day After Tommorow" minus the cold.


I was thinking of the same movie.

[cynsaun]

HayGan,

They said the size of the storm is atleast 400 miles wide which form what they said is about the same size as driving from New Orleans to Atlanta.

:earseek:

[MagicKingdom05]

snappy,

Yep. There talking that if there is 20+ ft of water in New Orleans, they may need to breach the levei to get the water out.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Sorry to jump ahead--but man--Mard Gras :(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

snappy,

Yep. There talking that if there is 20+ ft of water in New Orleans, they may need to breach the levei to get the water out.

There was other talk that the levvies will just break.

[MagicKingdom05]

My bad now they are saying it's 460 miles wide and 210 miles from the center to the start of the outer band. Which means that the outerband to the end of it is 250 miles wide.

[HayGan]

Sorry to jump ahead--but man--Mard Gras :(

DH and I are still planning on going to Mardi Gras next year!!! I'm confident that NO will recover from this terrible devistation!!!

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

True, but even then with the pumps under water there is no way to get it out unless they can pump it out another way.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Lisa loves Pooh,

True, but even then with the pumps under water there is no way to get it out unless they can pump it out another way.

:confused3

It will be a PITA in any case.

[cynsaun]

Ok, Shepard Smith is reporting via video phone from Bourbon Street, and none of the windows around him are boarded up!

[bengalbelle]

An update from the Baton Rouge area,
It's starting to get cloudy here. We haven't seen the sun for a while. No rain yet. Livingston and Ascension Parishes (border E. Baton Rouge Parish) are under tornado warnings and a flood watch. Actually, almost every parish in the southeast is under a flood watch.

[HayGan]

An update from the Baton Rouge area,
It's starting to get cloudy here. We haven't seen the sun for a while. No rain yet. Livingston and Ascension Parishes (border E. Baton Rouge Parish) are under tornado warnings and a flood watch.


Please take care and be safe :hug:

[bengalbelle]

Predicting 4-6 weeks with no electricity :(. 20+ foot storm surges.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ok, Shepard Smith is reporting via video phone from Bourbon Street, and none of the windows around him are boarded up!


Cat 5---windows boarded or not boarded--it really doesn't matter.

And they were too busy selling alcholol to run to Home Depot---gotta live up to the name, ya know ;) All about priorities! :earboy2:

[cynsaun]

Cat 5---windows boarded or not boarded--it really doesn't matter.

And they were too busy selling alcholol to run to Home Depot---gotta live up to the name, ya know ;) All about priorities! :earboy2:


Good point.

[HayGan]

I'm heading to fill up my gas tank as soon as DH gets home. Gas is going to go thru the roof!!!

[drgnfly30]

Just saw the news & it sounds really scary.. please be safe! :umbrella:

[Luv2Roam]

I don't know how many here use Google Earth. But this is a great tool. And it gave me more perspective when taking a close up look at NO.

[Talking Hands]

Cat 5---windows boarded or not boarded--it really doesn't matter.
Actually it does matter. Having hurricane shutters was one of the reasons we had as little damage as we did with Andrew. Oue home went through the eye of Andrew and survived fairly well while neighbors without shutters had to be rebuilt.

[Aurora63]

Question: At what time do they believe the eye wall will come ashore? I keep seeing "Early Monday," but does that mean 12am (about six hours from now) or, say, 5am?

[Luv2Roam]

I heard on one channel 2 AM. Another said 11 AM.
And one station did mention a 6 hour window of when it could land.
But I think this one is so bad, who s going to be able to tell the difference without looking at a satellite?
Be hit by a semi, or get hit by a train? Which is worse? Bad is bad.

[MagicKingdom05]

There talking 7 am est. So in about 12:30 hours we will start getting the first glimps of what is actually happening.

[bsnyder]

At it's present speed, eyewall landfall along the extreme southern coastline of LA in about 12 hours, and about 18 hours before it reaches New Orleans.

[HayGan]

Actually it does matter. Having hurricane shutters was one of the reasons we had as little damage as we did with Andrew. Oue home went through the eye of Andrew and survived fairly well while neighbors without shutters had to be rebuilt.

Agree but the winds are less likely to be as devistating to NO as the water will be.

[cynsaun]

Ok, here's my question: there is a mandatory evacuation order, yet the bars are still open. Aren't there law enforcement officals demanding they leave?

[Free4Life11]

Well they say mandatory, but I think people have the right to say; I believe they ask them to sign a form or something?? Maybe they'd have to declare martial law or something to be able to actually FORCE people out?? I wouldn't have a clue...all I know is what I've seen in movies.

[Free4Life11]

I just can't get over the SIZE of this thing:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/050828/n_katrina_update10a_050828.ss_h.jpg

[Lisa loves Pooh]

6pm--streets are closed--curfew in effect. If you have chosen to stay, cannot go outside.

Just said on news that if after curfew--they will be challenged and if no legitimate reason to be outside, they will be arrested.

[cynsaun]

6pm--streets are closed--curfew in effect. If you have chosen to stay, cannot go outside.

Just said on news that if after curfew--they will be challenged and if no legitimate reason to be outside, they will be arrested.


OMG! That is a scary thought! Where would they detain someone not following curfew? :earseek:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

911 in NOLA is shut down. the building they are housed in cannot sustain 80mph winds. So no 911.

ETA: This is in Jefferson Parish on the west bank.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OMG! That is a scary thought! Where would they detain someone not following curfew? :earseek:

Jail.

Jails were exempt from evacuation and none have been evacuated.

[Free4Life11]

No 911...that is a scary thought. It's pouring on all the people waiting to get into the Superdome...hopefully they can get them in ASAP.

[cynsaun]

Jail.

Jails were exempt from evacuation and none have been evacuated.

So, they would put them in a jail that could be under water?

[HayGan]

Wow, they are still calling for Katrina to be a Level 4 Hurricane as it continues on thru TN on Tuesday morning. Mother Nature is unbelievable:sad2:

[cynsaun]

Wow, they are still calling for Katrina to be a Level 4 Hurricane as it continues on thru TN on Tuesday morning. Mother Nature is unbelievable:sad2:

Wow, that is scary!

[Free4Life11]

I've got to go to work in a bit and there is no TV! I don't know what I am going to do. I've lost the links -- does anyone know the links to the live TV feeds??

[chrissyk]

Actually it does matter. Having hurricane shutters was one of the reasons we had as little damage as we did with Andrew. Oue home went through the eye of Andrew and survived fairly well while neighbors without shutters had to be rebuilt.

Shutters prevent a breech in the windows that would allow the winds to suck the roof off your house. The storm surge is the bigger concern in this storm than the winds though, I guess :( There may be nothing left to protect from the flying debris once the storm surge is there.

[MagicKingdom05]

Did I just hear on fox news not to long ago that they aren't really sure that the roof on the superdome can withstand these type of winds.

Oh this whole thing is getting worse and worse as the day goes on.

[Free4Life11]

Well the roof has never been tested...they just don't know.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

So, they would put them in a jail that could be under water?


I don't know where the jail is or the logistics--just know that it is not in the evacuation--so they must have some kind of facility that they can reasonably expect to keep the inmates as a last resort.

[wednesday]

My Mom lives in Mobile and is not leaving. I am starting to worry that she is going to see some really really rough weather.

[Free4Life11]

Ok I found some links to the live feeds:

http://www.wdsu.com and http://www.wwltv.com

[cynsaun]

I don't know where the jail is or the logistics--just know that it is not in the evacuation--so they must have some kind of facility that they can reasonably expect to keep the inmates as a last resort.

I can't even imagine being in one of those facilities, including hospitals, that aren't evacuated. How scary!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Did I just hear on fox news not to long ago that they aren't really sure that the roof on the superdome can withstand these type of winds.

Oh this whole thing is getting worse and worse as the day goes on.

Teh superdome can certainly withstand more than the alternatives.

the goal is to keep them alive. They never said it was to keep them snuggly and warm and dry.

It was the largest facility that was their best option for people who cannot get out of town.

It is a viable solution given the alternative.

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Very very true and I understand why they put them in there. I just hope that the roof doesn't get breeched because if it does, oh boy.

[Free4Life11]

Unbelieveable. Fox News just showed a guy walking with a surfer. Some people literally have no common sense. Insane...

[HayGan]

Anybody else just see the IDIOT down in Alabama out surfing. I can't believe how STUPID some people are! I really hope no one else is hurt or killed trying to save these morons!!!!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Funny hurricane protection moment....

In lowlying LA---a reporter drove past a home---and a homeowner....put his lawnmower on cinderblocks...and covered it with a tarp. :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

He gets an "A" for effort. ;)

[cynsaun]

OMH I hope to heck that the superdome roof holds, because if it doesn't all those people may not make it.

Me too. So, if NO floods, the Superdome will more than likely floos as well, right? So, the people will be on the upper levels, but the water could fill the first several stories, right?

Can you imagine how scary that would be to look over the edges and see water in the middle of the dome?

[HayGan]

Funny hurricane protection moment....

In lowlying LA---a reporter drove past a home---and a homeowner....put his lawnmower on cinderblocks...and covered it with a tarp. :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

He gets an "A" for effort. ;)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[bsnyder]

Katrina's eye is now visible on N.O. radar:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/lix_N0Z_lp.shtml

[Free4Life11]

Anybody else just see the IDIOT down in Alabama out surfing. I can't believe how STUPID some people are! I really hope no one else is hurt or killed trying to save these morons!!!!

Isn't it just ridiculous?? Why would anyone put their life at risk like that?!

Also, I heard that the Superdome is 25 feet above sea level, but who knows what's going to happen.

[MagicKingdom05]

Free4Life11,

Did you see the people in Alamaba on the rock wall that prevents the sand from going out. Those people have to be the stupidest people on the plannet. Like they said it only takes one wave and out you go.

[Free4Life11]

Free4Life11,

Did you see the people in Alamaba on the rock wall that prevents the sand from going out. Those people have to be the stupidest people on the plannet. Like they said it only takes one wave and out you go.

Yes its nuts! One wave is right and you're gone...hate to say it but it's not even worth it jumping in to save them...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Katrina's eye is now visible on N.O. radar:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/lix_N0Z_lp.shtml

It won't come up.

[MagicKingdom05]

Free4Life11,

True, but if they are right and you have a wave of water going through New Orleans that is 20-25 feet deep, something has to give especially with the wind.

[Luv2Roam]

The NOAA link worked for me. But it does have this message on the top:
"This experimental product may experience delays or outages"

[bengalbelle]

I-10 east is closed toward Mississippi to give Ms. time to clear their roadways. They're sandbagging Kenner. I-10 in Baton Rouge is at a crawl (people trying to go west). They've stopped loading contraflow lanes, but evacuation has not ended. Hwy 61 and I-10 eastbound to Slidell are only roads out of NO that are closed at this time.

[Mickey Mouse Kid]

I live in Louisiana but luckily not on the side it is hitting on... but still our living room tv has been on the news channel all day.
Hopfully it won't hit too bad.

[Mskanga]

I've got to go to work in a bit and there is no TV! I don't know what I am going to do. I've lost the links -- does anyone know the links to the live TV feeds??


http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_wwltv&props=livenoad

Hope that helps.

[Miss Jasmine]

Me too. So, if NO floods, the Superdome will more than likely floos as well, right? So, the people will be on the upper levels, but the water could fill the first several stories, right?

Can you imagine how scary that would be to look over the edges and see water in the middle of the dome?
Well the Superdome is 25 feet above sea level, but depending, yes it could take on some water.

[bengalbelle]

Governor Blanco thanking President Bush, also Mississippi's governor for helping La. evacuate when they had their own people to worry about. Also to governor's of bordering states who have offered help.

Just wanted to post this because it made me feel good :goodvibes

[TXTink]

I-10 east is closed toward Mississippi to give Ms. time to clear their roadways. They're sandbagging Kenner. I-10 in Baton Rouge is at a crawl (people trying to go west). They've stopped loading contraflow lanes, but evacuation has not ended. Hwy 61 and I-10 eastbound to Slidell are only roads out of NO that are closed at this time.
I hope you are safe! Keep us informed on how you are doing!

[bengalbelle]

I hope you are safe! Keep us informed on how you are doing!
I'm cleaning house when I'm not glued to the TV, lol.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Governor Blanco thanking President Bush, also Mississippi's governor for helping La. evacuate when they had their own people to worry about. Also to governor's of bordering states who have offered help.

Just wanted to post this because it made me feel good :goodvibes

That is a :goodvibes !

[MagicKingdom05]

I love to see other states help each other out in a time of need. Especially Miss when they have there own people to get out.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I JUST realized--on the forecast map on WWL---that the entire state of Mississippi will be experiencing this hurricane!

[MagicKingdom05]

They are now asking for donations at the red cross.

You can call 1800-HELP-NOW or http://www.redcross.org/

[Lisa loves Pooh]

southernmost part of LA (Boothville)---sustained 30mph winds...40mph gusts....

28mph gusts in Kenner.

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Yep as much as New Orleans is going to get hit Mississippi is in a world of hurt its self.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

They are now asking for donations at the red cross.

You can call 1800-HELP-NOW or http://www.redcross.org/

Wanna post that on a separate thread--it'll get lost in here.

:)

[Free4Life11]

On our local news (Nebraska), they said our local Red Cross is for the first time opening up something...I think they are looking for help manning call centers and many other things. Glad to see that they are already soliciting help.

[MagicKingdom05]

Lisa loves Pooh,

Thanks for reminding me. I just took care of it.

[Luv2Roam]

Some SuperDome info:
Opened Aug 3, 1975
Covers 52 acres (including buildings, grounds, etc.
9.7 acres of roof
20,000 tons of structural steel

SuperDome and Arena:
51 Women's and 51 Men's Restrooms

[bengalbelle]

Jay Grimes (CBS affiliate, WAFB) saying Katrina showing no signs of elongating, which would suggest weakening, and no steering currents to make it take a last minute turn. Says don't expect much weakening, if any, and she's coming our way :(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

At this point she would need a miracle weakening--she's just way too strong and the water is just getting warmer which gives her more energy. :(

[Free4Life11]

Will there be any effect in plumbing? With 30K+ ppl I would imagine the bathrooms will be getting a lot of us...if the plumbing were to fail that would be a mess!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't know why it strikes me as funny--but this woman is reading a book called "daily life in chaucer's england". Looks really big!

http://ap.wwltv.com/photos/L/LAMW10108282310-big.jpg
http://ap.wwltv.com/dynamic/galleries/305-4.html?SITE=WWL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=USHEADS.html

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Will there be any effect in plumbing? With 30K+ ppl I would imagine the bathrooms will be getting a lot of us...if the plumbing were to fail that would be a mess!

They were told that plumbing and power will fail at the superdome.

Again--the priority is life--not comfort.

[tiggersmom2]

I don't know why it strikes me as funny--but this woman is reading a book called "daily life in chaucer's england". Looks really big!

http://ap.wwltv.com/photos/L/LAMW10108282310-big.jpg
http://ap.wwltv.com/dynamic/galleries/305-4.html?SITE=WWL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=USHEADS.html


LOL....I bet she is getting some graphic images (in her head from reading it) if it is the Chaucer that wrote Canteburry tales!!!! :rotfl2:

[Free4Life11]

They were told that plumbing and power will fail at the superdome.

Again--the priority is life--not comfort.

Ok. Wasn't sure if it would just...flow into the streets? I know when we had a flood, all of our sewage ended up in the basement...Hopefully any potential sickness wont be life-threatening...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ok. Wasn't sure if it would just...flow into the streets? I know when we had a flood, all of our sewage ended up in the basement...Hopefully any potential sickness wont be life-threatening...

Oh--I thought you were talking about just the Superdome---the streets of New Orleans will be a cess pool from sewage, chemicals and additives and creatures from all over the city.

[Luv2Roam]

Sewage backing up is one concern they have stated will happen if the flooding occurs.

[Free4Life11]

Just want to say thanks to everyone who has been active in this thread! It's nice being able to talk to people about this as it develops.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hey cynsaun--looks like someone decided to board up after all on bourbon street:
http://ap.wwltv.com/photos/L/LAEG10108282124-medium.jpg
http://ap.wwltv.com/dynamic/galleries/305-25.html?SITE=WWL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=USHEADS.html]

ETA: Just noticed the sign they were walking past--I guess there are things worth protecting on bourbon street. :banana:

[cynsaun]

Hey cynsaun--looks like someone decided to board up after all on bourbon street:
http://ap.wwltv.com/photos/L/LAEG10108282124-medium.jpg
http://ap.wwltv.com/dynamic/galleries/305-25.html?SITE=WWL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=USHEADS.html

Yes, I can understand why it would be so important to board up the bottomless, topless bar! :rotfl: :rotfl:

[HayGan]

Oh--I thought you were talking about just the Superdome---the streets of New Orleans will be a cess pool from sewage, chemicals and additives and creatures from all over the city.

Not to mention the problems they will have with bodies from gravesites all over the city. NO has had problems with floods and the deceased before. Not pretty :sad2:

[Free4Life11]

Not to mention the problems they will have with bodies from gravesites all over the city. NO has had problems with floods and the deceased before. Not pretty :sad2:

I never even thought of that! Very creepy....I wonder if they will have any video feeds when this thing hits....

[skuttle]

Hi everyone! We're here in Baton Rouge waiting it out. No rain or anything yet here. My mom and grandparent came up here...they live south of New Orleans. We're expecting to lose power, so I'm not looking forward to that! DS has been sick, but is finally getting better. And now I'm sick and not getting better so it will be really fun when the power goes out. :rolleyes:

[Luv2Roam]

Tomorrow when Katrina hits I wonder what the stations will be able to show.
I suppose mostly satellite feed and if a street cam is working. :confused3
The rain will probably be so bad anyway there won't be anything much to see.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Not to mention the problems they will have with bodies from gravesites all over the city. NO has had problems with floods and the deceased before. Not pretty :sad2:

They do not bury in the ground (at least that is what I was told when I lived there)--they are buried above ground...I'm not certain that is going to be as big a problem as it seems.

[Free4Life11]

Hi everyone! We're here in Baton Rouge waiting it out. No rain or anything yet here. My mom and grandparent came up here...they live south of New Orleans. We're expecting to lose power, so I'm not looking forward to that! DS has been sick, but is finally getting better. And now I'm sick and not getting better so it will be really fun when the power goes out. :rolleyes:

Good luck and stay safe! Make sure you check in here and let us know how things are going! Thoughts and prayers are with you.

[CrazedDisFan]

My cousin is working at a Healthcare facility. She is an LPN. She is smack in between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. :( This does not look good for her. :(

Here's a map. You may need to pan out to see the river, but her work is the red star.

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=2200%20Jefferson%20Hwy&city=Jefferson&state=LA&zip=70121&country=us&Get*Map=Get+Map

[Lisa loves Pooh]

My cousin is working at a Healthcare facility. She is an LPN. She is smack in between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. :( This does not look good for her. :(

Here's a map. You may need to pan out to see the river, but her work is the red star.

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=2200%20Jefferson%20Hwy&city=Jefferson&state=LA&zip=70121&country=us&Get*Map=Get+Map

:( I'm sorry.

[Free4Life11]

Oh no CrazedDisFan! I pray she remains safe! How scary it must be for both her and the patients. Is it a multi-level facility?

[Miss Jasmine]

My cousin is working at a Healthcare facility. She is an LPN. She is smack in between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. :( This does not look good for her. :(

Here's a map. You may need to pan out to see the river, but her work is the red star.

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=2200%20Jefferson%20Hwy&city=Jefferson&state=LA&zip=70121&country=us&Get*Map=Get+Map
I will say a prayer for her.

And a big thank you and prayers to those workers who can't leave when the rest of us flee.

[bumcat]

If the below website worked, it is a live cam of the french quarter. You may have to type it in if it didn't work. There are others at nola.com, one of the river and the causeway.



http://www.nola.com/fqcam/

[skuttle]

Good luck and stay safe! Make sure you check in here and let us know how things are going! Thoughts and prayers are with you.

Thanks! We just started getting rain. So the fun begins. :guilty:

[Planogirl]

If the below website worked, it is a live cam of the french quarter. You may have to type it in if it didn't work. There are others at nola.com, one of the river and the causeway.



http://www.nola.com/fqcam/
It looks like they've taken the Bourbon cam down. The river cam is still working though.

[Free4Life11]

Front page of MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.com):

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/050828/MEGA_Katrina.jpg

Gave me chills...

[Free4Life11]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9076525/

Read "Citizen Journalist" reports on MSNBC.

[bumcat]

[QUOTE=CrazedDisFan]My cousin is working at a Healthcare facility. She is an LPN. She is smack in between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. :( This does not look good for her. :(




CrazedDisFan - The nursing home co. I work for use to own or manage Jefferson Healthcare. The co. use to be Mariner Health Care. I hope everyone stays safe! We have 6 other healthcare facilities in Mississippi but I don't know exactly where they are located. They use to evacuate and place everyone in other facilities some years back.

[ladycollector]

Note- Highway 98 (Okaloosa) has been closed. The water is getting very, very high. Looks like we will lose the highway again, six weeks from the last time.

Prayers said for New Orleans.

[Free4Life11]

This is sort of related to the person who asked about jails earlier.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/ -- if you go to this link and click on the picture slideshow, picture 7 shows inmates filling sandbags. Guess they are using their manpower to do some good.

[232271]

MY husbands 90 year old grandma is still in New Orleans!! she refused to
evacuate. Pray the Lord keeps her safe!!

I am worried more about no power and phones and therefore, no lights or food, or cooking. She cannot get around well and we are fearful for her.
We live in Dallas Texas so we couldnt go and get her in time either!!!

thanks for all your prayers!!!

[ladycollector]

I am wondering, when do they close the doors to the Superdome? They wouldn't just say "We're filled, sorry" would they?

And what happens if there are still lines to get inside while the hurricane is making itself more known? Eventually the conditions will get too bad. Will they just leave the people who are left, out there?

This is just devastating.

[bengalbelle]

MY husbands 90 year old grandma is still in New Orleans!! she refused to
evacuate. Pray the Lord keeps her safe!!

I am worried more about no power and phones and therefore, no lights or food, or cooking. She cannot get around well and we are fearful for her.
We live in Dallas Texas so we couldnt go and get her in time either!!!

thanks for all your prayers!!!
I have said a prayer for her.

Nothing much new to report from east of Baton Rouge. We're under a tornado watch and it has been raining for about the last hour.

[Free4Life11]

The Superdome can hold 72K people. I doubt they'd just shut the doors, maybe they'd just rush everyone in. I'm sure they are going as fast as possible.

Just heard about a hospital in NO -- they have enough supplies to last for an entire week. The Natl. Guard is guarding it to prevent people from going to the hospital to use it as a shelter or who might try and steal supplies...

[bengalbelle]

In case other Diser's are reading this that are riding it out, don't forget to take pictures of your home, cars, roof, fences, etc. to help for insurance purposes.

[bengalbelle]

The Superdome can hold 72K people. I doubt they'd just shut the doors, maybe they'd just rush everyone in. I'm sure they are going as fast as possible.

Just heard about a hospital in NO -- they have enough supplies to last for an entire week. The Natl. Guard is guarding it to prevent people from going to the hospital to use it as a shelter or who might try and steal supplies...
Too bad the Saints can't pack 'em in like the hurricane can :rotfl: . Sorry everyone, just needed to joke a little.

Seriously, I think the news just said there were 30,000 people there now.

[Miss Jasmine]

In case other Diser's are reading this that are riding it out, don't forget to take pictures of your home, cars, roof, fences, etc. to help for insurance purposes.
In addition to that, make sure you have a list of all your liabilities and assets (including account numbers and amount). This will be needed to fill out FEMA paperwork.

[232271]

I am wondering, when do they close the doors to the Superdome? They wouldn't just say "We're filled, sorry" would they?

And what happens if there are still lines to get inside while the hurricane is making itself more known? Eventually the conditions will get too bad. Will they just leave the people who are left, out there?

This is just devastating.

the weather channel interview someone in charge who said they would close
when the last person was in, however, they said it would only hold about 20,000 (becaue of flooding reasons) and right now it has about 12,000 in it. and they think it is most definatally going to flood on the floor of it.

[jlaspoq]

The Superdome can hold 72K people. I doubt they'd just shut the doors, maybe they'd just rush everyone in. I'm sure they are going as fast as possible.

Just heard about a hospital in NO -- they have enough supplies to last for an entire week. The Natl. Guard is guarding it to prevent people from going to the hospital to use it as a shelter or who might try and steal supplies...

Anyone know whether most of the hospitals are staying open or have evacuated? I work for a healthcare organization, and while everyone else is going home or leaving town, our folks are headed into work - sometimes with families in tow. I always feel for the folks whose job is the public interest, and can't go with their family to safety as you know most of their friends and neighbors are doing.

[gradtchr]

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone who lives there or who has family there. I'm hoping my sis in law is going to be ok. They've left N.O. but not sure they are out of the storm path.

[mickeyfan33]

:grouphug: my prayers are with everyone in N.O and the gulf coast.

Did anybody see on Fox News this afternoon the 4 idiots who were surfing in Gulf Shores,Ala?

[Rozzie]

The Superdome can hold 72K people. I doubt they'd just shut the doors, maybe they'd just rush everyone in. I'm sure they are going as fast as possible.

Just heard about a hospital in NO -- they have enough supplies to last for an entire week. The Natl. Guard is guarding it to prevent people from going to the hospital to use it as a shelter or who might try and steal supplies...

Our hospital learned the hard way to do this. During Ivan, we had the whole neighborhood it was in (uh, not the nicest neighborhood at that) come to the hospital for shelter. They were sleeping everywhere. On floors, prayer rooms, waiting rooms. It was horrible and especially dangerous. Now we are allowed to have our family members bunk with us, but they wear a blue arm band to id themselves as "legal". It might seem mean to do it, but the influx of people were depleting the hospitals supplies and we did have one day where we had to ration water. Talk about eerie, I thought I was on a MASH episode. We also had no power, running water or.... sewer...I won't even go into that story....

[232271]

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone who lives there or who has family there. I'm hoping my sis in law is going to be ok. They've left N.O. but not sure they are out of the storm path.

did they go north or east, then they might still be in the path,
west was the way to go they said. the storm will head north through LA
and the east side will cause lots of wind/rain to those states next to/near
LA

[damo]

My heart goes out to you all. I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through.

[Luv2Roam]

Luckily we have never had to go to a shelter.
I know for the hurricanes here they announced when they would shut the doors at a set time. And they said No Exceptions. They said allowing people to enter would only bring potential harm to those inside.
But a school is different than a SuperDome.
:confused3
It will get to the point no one can walk or stand outside anyway.
Sitting in a shelter and knowing you may be there for days, and not knowing what has happened to your house or loved ones would be horrible.
Hopefully they can use cell phones. But I imagine the towers may go too.
We lost some towers during our hurricanes.

[Free4Life11]

Even if the towers don't go down, I imagine the circuits may be overloaded.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

MY husbands 90 year old grandma is still in New Orleans!! she refused to
evacuate. Pray the Lord keeps her safe!!



Sorry about your grandma :(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Even if the towers don't go down, I imagine the circuits may be overloaded.


They did say they were having trouble earlier :(.

[PatsGirl]

:grouphug: Here's one for Grandma. God, they can be stubborn :flower:

[Luv2Roam]

That's one thing people don't think of. With our hurricanes, many house phones did not work for days.
The cell phones were iffy, and not to be used unless of an emergency.
So really no contact for many if they had no power too.

[Shutterbug]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT/VIS/20.jpg

[Lisa loves Pooh]

shutterbug--these pics are getting more scary!!!!

[totalia]

Ok, he's out of New Orleans now. I feel a little better. He's heading to Tennessee with his aunt to go see his parents.

The next worry is whether there's going to be anything left after the hurricane is over. If the hurricane takes things out, he may not have a home or job to go back to.

He and I really need to talk about the weather issue.

[Free4Life11]

On WDSU.com -- 7 semi trucks JUST arrived at the Superdome FULL of food and water!

[Free4Life11]

WDSU in New Orleans just signed off. They are handing off coverage to MSNBC and their sister station in Orlando. View it live at http://www.wdsu.com

[bengalbelle]

shutterbug--these pics are getting more scary!!!!
No kidding. I literally felt sick when I scrolled by that picture.

[MoniqueU]

Geraldos on fox now, oh brother.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

wwl is going off at midnight and transferring to their baton rouge station.

So weird---the media closing up shop!

[dvcfamily41801]

Prayers to all in the path of this storm. :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

MSNBC just showed a model--of what a storm surge would do to Jackson Square ---base of the statue covered and half way up a tree.....flooded!

[Free4Life11]

When the two anchors signed off at WDSU it was really sad. They both thanked each other and said how much they appreciated each other, etc. Almost as if they would never see each other again...:(

[Lisa loves Pooh]

When the two anchors signed off at WDSU it was really sad. They both thanked each other and said how much they appreciated each other, etc. Almost as if they would never see each other again...:(

:sad1:

It is almost Titanic like---with the quartet--though they ended up continuing to play.

[Planogirl]

Geraldos on fox now, oh brother.
Geraldo is nutty but he's good at covering big events. So that may not be all bad.

I've been watching the streetcar cam on and off. It's weird to see how quiet St Charles is.

[minkydog]

Well, some good news! :sunny: My Dear Mom finally decided to leave Mobile even though she "has plenty of water and flashlights." :rotfl: It seems that all 5 of her kids had called her, her two sisters and some of the nephews have called and begged her to leave. So she decided that "if its gonna upset everyone this much" she'll go to my sister's house in Fairhope, abouty 60 miles east of Mobile. Hope they'll be alright. :umbrella:

[CrazedDisFan]

:(

I was able to speak to my cousin who is in Jefferson, LA working as a nurse. I didn't ask how tall her building was, as I didn't really want the answer. :( We have had our differences over the years, she has made some poor choices, but still we are family. I told her I love her and she said the same. I just hope and pray it's not the last time.

God bless us all. :grouphug:

[Planogirl]

I just read that animal shelters have packed up all of their animals and headed to shelters in Houston. I know that they're only animals but still...

[Free4Life11]

Well, some good news! :sunny: My Dear Mom finally decided to leave Mobile even though she "has plenty of water and flashlights." :rotfl: It seems that all 5 of her kids had called her, her two sisters and some of the nephews have called and begged her to leave. So she decided that "if its gonna upset everyone this much" she'll go to my sister's house in Fairhope, abouty 60 miles east of Mobile. Hope they'll be alright. :umbrella:

Glad she had a change of heart! I tell you, those older folks can be so stubborn!

[bengalbelle]

God bless us all. :grouphug:
:grouphug:

[Shutterbug]

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GIFS/GULFIR.JPG

[Free4Life11]

:(

I was able to speak to my cousin who is in Jefferson, LA working as a nurse. I didn't ask how tall her building was, as I didn't really want the answer. :( We have had our differences over the years, she has made some poor choices, but still we are family. I told her I love her and she said the same. I just hope and pray it's not the last time.

God bless us all. :grouphug:

I'm so sad for you! It must be hard when there is nothing you can do. Prayers for you and your family and your cousin. :guilty:

[CrazedDisFan]

Minkydog,

I am glad your mom finally gave in! :grouphug:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I just read that animal shelters have packed up all of their animals and headed to shelters in Houston. I know that they're only animals but still...

:goodvibes

[Planogirl]

I also read that quite a few tourists are stranded in New Orleans. They couldn't get earlier flights or even find rental cars to get out. That's too bad.

[Miss Jasmine]

So who else is going to be up most of the night? I can't even imagine going to sleep. I may cat nap here and there, but the TV will be on all night.

[Shutterbug]

You know they just showed a highway gridlock again.
I am starting to wonder will they all make it out in time? I heard someone from the red cross say they were in that traffic and it took them 5 hours to go 30 miles!!!!!
What happens if the hurricane hits and they are still there sitting in their cars?

[cynsaun]

So who else is going to be up most of the night? I can't even imagine going to sleep. I may cat nap here and there, but the TV will be on all night.

Yup, me too. I have been sick to my stomach all day watching all this coverage. :guilty:

[Lisa loves Pooh]

You know they just showed a highway gridlock again.
I am starting to wonder what happens if the hurricane hits and there are still cars there?


Where's the gridlock?---as long as they can at some point travel faster than than the storm is--they should be able to get to their destination safely.

They didn't have any gridlocks that I saw in NOLA--but they've stopped showing traffic cams.

[MagicKingdom05]

I will be up all night as well, regardless of the fact I have to be at work a 7am cst Monday. There is no way I could sleep tonight knowing what these people are going through.

[CrazedDisFan]

Shutterbug~

Thank you for your map posts. It is wonderful to have the phots right here in this thread. I do have MSNBC on the television and am flipping between websites, but your info right here is great! Thank you. :grouphug:

[Free4Life11]

So who else is going to be up most of the night? I can't even imagine going to sleep. I may cat nap here and there, but the TV will be on all night.

I don't know how I am going to sleep either. I'm sick to my stomach watching the coverage...I've got so much to do tommorow but don't know how I'm going to be able to focus. I never thought I'd feel this way, I'm far from New Orleans, I just feel horrible about the whole thing.

[Shutterbug]

Where's the gridlock?---as long as they can at some point travel faster than than the storm is--they should be able to get to their destination safely.

They didn't have any gridlocks that I saw in NOLA--but they've stopped showing traffic cams.

Not sure where it was but it was twin bridges and cars were backed up still.

[MagicKingdom05]

How many people are going to be keeping an eye on the storm Monday at work?

[CrazedDisFan]

Anyone else going to need to diet after this storm? I am stress eating. :(

[bengalbelle]

Not sure where it was but it was twin bridges and cars were backed up still.
Sounds like the Mississippi River Bridge in Baton Rouge. Traffic is still really heavy in BR.

[C.Ann]

Yup, me too. I have been sick to my stomach all day watching all this coverage. :guilty:
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I've been watching the coverage all day too and will probably be up all night.. I know I won't be able to sleep knowing that so many people may lose their lives in one fell swoop.. :(

[Shutterbug]

How many people are going to be keeping an eye on the storm Monday at work?

I myself am not feeling all that well....I may need to call off...and stay home in bed...in front of the tv

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Anyone else going to need to diet after this storm? I am stress eating. :(

Already ate Godiva ice cream--sooo not on the marathon eating plan.
And neither is the dorito's, the wheat thins.....

[Miss Jasmine]

How many people are going to be keeping an eye on the storm Monday at work?
Oh I will be. I'll be having my sites going on the computer, plus we have numerous TVs in the office, I'll probably turn on the one in our conference room and leave it on all day.

[Miss Jasmine]

Anyone else going to need to diet after this storm? I am stress eating. :(
I don't even feel like eating. :(

[MagicKingdom05]

CrazedDisFan,

I've already gone through a box of ho ho's a beg of pretzels and bag of snicker bars since 10 am this morning.

[MoniqueU]

So who else is going to be up most of the night? I can't even imagine going to sleep. I may cat nap here and there, but the TV will be on all night.
I have my tivo set just in case I fall asleep. I keep hoping it will change course at the last minute though and go to the west a little bit where it is a little less populated I think.

[cynsaun]

I just looked up Hurricane Betsy's fatalities: 76. Doesn't it seem that with all the preparedness and technology for tracking we have now there should be fewer fatalities than in the 1960's hurricane?

[SunFloridaDisney]

:grouphug: Prayers for everyone affected by the storm.

DD's good college friend is from Baton Rouge, not sure how his parents are doing with all this.

[ash&abby'smom]

It's really nice to see so many people concerned. We are sitting around waiting. I have my brothers family here as well as a friend of ours. We are riding it out. We are about 60 miles north of NO. It is really quiet here. We had two really quick showers but thats it. I think we are going to mix up a couple of drinks. We will probably be up most of the night at least me and SIL.

Thanks again for all of your well wishes. I will check in when I can, depends on our power situation. We do have a generator, so maybe I will be able to early and keep you guys posted of what I know.

[Free4Life11]

Anyone else going to need to diet after this storm? I am stress eating. :(

I haven't felt like eating all day, but went to work and raided the vending machines. I'm sick to my stomach though....

I just can't imagine sleeping well, knowing thousands of people will be going through sheer terror for hours and hours...it's just making me sick. I had to turn the thermostat down a few nothces, as I was starting to get really hot and sweaty...

[MagicKingdom05]

They keep showing pictures of people in a long line at the superdome. Is that old feed or new, because if it's new they really need to get those people in asap.

[Free4Life11]

It's hard to tell if the feeds are live or old, but I think they usually say "live." Is it light out? It's already pretty dark now...

[cynsaun]

They keep showing pictures of people in a long line at the superdome. Is that old feed or new, because if it's new they really need to get those people in asap.

Those people are still out ther in line. The National Guard is searching everyone and their bags for weapons and alcohol.

[MagicKingdom05]

I can understand that. I just figured that with the storm approaching that they would speed it up a bit.

[Free4Life11]

There's going to be a point where people are just going to have to drop anything unnecessary to speed this up....it's going to get very serious soon. I wish WLLTV would show a feed of the Superdome. I'd like to see what's happening there.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Got an update on the dome....

They are still letting people in--not sure if that line is from earlier..but the representative from the Superdome says that some are still coming--so it sounds like your feed might be old.

The Superdome--once the doors are sealed is like a bubble and water cannot get in. This at least is good for flooding purposes.

They have nearly 40,000..there are some light meals, but he said it was bare bones as that many people is a lot for the Army Corps of Engineers to handle. And for those who are interested--the ACOE is station on the 50-yard line.

They are still letting people in and will do so until they have to close the door which is a few more hours.

And they do indeed have generators should the power kick out. He said for the past 2 times the superdome was used--the people there never noticed that the power was gone (I guess they must kick in quickly).

The biggest problem for the most part is the cabin fever that develops.

[Free4Life11]

Thanks for the update! Glad to know they have generators...

[Lisa loves Pooh]

There's going to be a point where people are just going to have to drop anything unnecessary to speed this up....it's going to get very serious soon. I wish WLLTV would show a feed of the Superdome. I'd like to see what's happening there.

I think they evacuated most of the equipment and reporters (the live trucks are hundreds of thousands of dollars). I don't think there are any reporters at the Superdome.

The cams I think were city cams....but not sure.

[Free4Life11]

Yeah that makes sense. It's too bad they don't have any remote cameras, but they are probably expensive as well.

[MagicKingdom05]

Yeah thanks for the update. The next 24-36 are just going to be unbearable if everything goes a badly as they are saying.

[Free4Life11]

You know, this is scary for me and I am not in harms way! I can't imagine how terrifying this must be for people in Katrinas path!

[cynsaun]

You know, this is scary for me and I am not in harms way! I can't imagine how terrifying this must be for people in Katrinas path!

I feel the exact same way. :guilty: