I want to take my parents with me to WDW, but I need some suggestions please.

[*Fantasia*]

I tried posting this earlier, but it didn't go through. Sorry if this is double post.

I want to take my parents to WDW Dec 28- Jan 3. My children of course is coming too. So there will be 5 of us. I am on a budget. My parents are old. My mom has walking problems (non wheelchair bound) but will not be able to get around easily if things are too spread out. Transportation needs to be easy.

I have booked 1 room at POR for Dec 28- Jan 1. Non-smoking, Bldg 14 or 18, 1st floor. This is the only moderate that will hold 5 people in the room. I could book 2 room at the value, but it will cost me more money. We can take the boat to DD to just walk around for a little bit. Then on our last 2 nights, I was thinking to try BC so we can just take the boat to Epcot and MGM for easy access to both parks. At BC, it would be during value season and I can get my AAA discount there, but not POR.

I think we are mainly going to do Epcot WS and some shows at MGM and probably do AK for a couple of shows and do Kamilanjaro Safari... and that's it. Walking for them is the problem, especially my mother, so we can only do so much walking.

I need your suggestion as to where we can stay and what parks/attractions we can see in their condition. I was thinking of renting ECV, but it will be too crowded in the park for her to use it. What do you guys think? Thanks for any help or suggestions you guys can give me.

Sincerely,
Telly

[DIS-NH]

Consider Corando Springs. They have mini suites that consisit of (2) full size rooms (one bedroom, and one living room with a drop down bed). They also have (2) bathrooms. We stayed in these suites once, and we knew we could not go back to a normal size room.

Corandp Springs is the only moderate resort with suites, and they have limited availability

Good Luck

[*Fantasia*]

Sounds great.. but to rent that room would cost me $435 + $15 more per night for extra adult and this is without tax during the Holiday season. POR will cost me $221 including tax including extra adult. Thanks for your suggestion.

[*Fantasia*]

Please... anyone else have a suggestion... or share your thoughts... TIA!

[Disney5Mom]

We rented a wheelchair for MIL and she was able to see most of MK,MGM and Epcot.At the time she was able to walk with a cane but we wanted her to save her energy to come with us as much as she could. We went with 4 other adults and 7 kids and we took turns pushing Gramma.We took turns fetching breakfast from the food courts and we enjoyed a sit down dinner at night time.We were able to enter rides through a special entrance. She enjoyed IASW, the 3D shows,POC, the Jungle Cruise etc.(Some of the rides with a moving sidewalk were too difficult to manage and of course we did not take her on the thrill rides). We had a wonderful time, lots of great memories, and are so glad we went together while she was able, as now she is in a wheelchair full time and the trip would be too difficult for her. This sounds like a wonderful idea for you and your family!! Have a great time.
We stayed at the All Star resorts and used the buses with no problems. I think POR sounds fun for your whole trip.

[Cheshire Figment]

I would say to rent an ECV from an off-site location.

First of all it will give your mother more of a sense of freedom rather than being a burden if in a wc which needs pushing.

Second, as you say it will be crowded. The parks only have a finite number of wcs or ECVs which can be rented. Especially if you arrive more than an hour after park opening there is a pretty good chance that one may not be available.

Third, have her "practice" in a WalMart or large grocery store where they have loaners available. Be aware, and be sure she is aware, that the shopping ECVs are much larger and more difficult to maneuver than the rentals.

Actually, MK is the one most likely to be crowded with difficulty driving; the other parks are larger and more spread out. Also the ECV can be used in places other than the parks.

You did not mention if you were driving or using WDW transportation. If you are driving be sure to bring a handicap hand tag as Orange County Sheriff's Office patrols the Medical Parking lots and it is a $250 ticket for illegal parking.

[*Fantasia*]

Cheshire Figment, Thanks for the tips and suggestions. Do you think it would be better for me to rent a car? But I just don't know how I would fit the ECV in the car. I read that you can take it apart... but that would be too much of a hassle for me and will take too much time and I may not even be able to put it back.

Is taking the Disney bus with the ECV difficult? I am thinking if I am going to rent an ECV that I think I will rent it off-site. I am wondering what my chances to actually get one since we are going during the Holiday.

How about the resort I have picked out? Is that good for my parents? Anyways.. my choice is very limited due to money issue. Is renting points from DVC owners feasible during the holiday? I wish I can take the kids out early Dec, but I promise my son that he will not miss a day from school. He doesn't like to miss even a day of school.

Please... anymore advice or any thoughts... greatly appreciated!! :)

[BelleNBama]

I know others may feel differently, but I have one heck of a time trying to load a bus with the ecv (I always rent offsite with Walkers). I've had some really ugly CM's and it's gotten to the point that I will only stay at one of the Epcot resorts or one of the monorail resorts. Boarding the friendship boats are very easy. The monorail is a little more difficult if you have to back off it but it's sooo much easier than the buses. Animal Kingdom? I haven't been there in a year and a half. The last time I went there, the bus driver was so hateful and had me almost in tears trying to board. That's when I decided I wasn't going to try to load a bus with an ecv again. I know this isn't very encouraging.

Before I started renting ECV's I would request a wheelchair from the resort. They are limited but they're free (you do have to give your credit card as a deposit but aren't charged if you return the chair). I even took mine into the parks with me. And.......they are so much easier to load onto a bus!

[*Fantasia*]

Thanks Belle for that insight. So the wheelchair from the resort is easier to go on the bus than the ECV and I can take it to the park. Is that correct? Is it hard to push someone on the manual wheelchair?

As far as the boat from BC going to Epcot and MGM, is it easy to just slide the wheelchair or ECV on to the boat? :Sigh: I really don't have the money to stay at BC the whole time... I mean I could save... but it's going to be a real "tight" budget.

Would I still be okay at POR for the first half.. and the last 2 night at BC? I am so sorry for all this questions. I just want to make this happen. I would like to take them during at least regular season... but it is too hot for them during that time. And I surely don't want to risk their health during heat. Do you think it would be better if I do it in Feb 23-27.. kind of short trip. Or do it during Easter/it's also falls during my Birthday week. What do you think is better? I would really prefer during the Holiday and this will be my Xmas present for them. I apreciate any help.. any tips I can get. Thanks!

Sincerely,
Telly
:)

[Nik's Mom]

Hi, Fantasia! I was surprised to see you on our beloved DisAbilities forum. Welcom! We are taking my Mom and DH's Dad with us on our next trip. I'm thinking of renting an ecv for Mom and wheelchair for FIL. We're staying at BC because there's lots to do there, in case they end up not wanting to go to the parks. We're going in the summer, so I wanted plenty of non-park things to do for them to relax. I suggest reading through every ecv/wheelchair thread. That's what I did. There is a trip report on this page from a Dis'er who just got back using an ecv.

Boy, I'm worried about the rude bus drivers though. That's something I'll have to ponder. Maybe 2 wheel chairs would be better for our family.
I'm sure your family will have a wonderful trip! Keep reading on this forum and you'll soon be an DisAbility expert! Have a great trip!

[Cheshire Figment]

More and more of the buses have ramps instead of lifts which are easier to use. I have never run accross a driver who was not helpful. Since you will be going during a busy time, if you rent from off-site you are guaranteed having the ECV. If you rely on borrowing a wc from your resort you are subject to a first-come, first-served and they do not take reservations.

The problem with renting DVC points during the holiday period is there are five "seasons" for DVC, with that time of year with the hightest number of points charged per day. Also the DVC reservations for the Christmas period are normally all claimed by the end of January.

[Nanajo1]

Things to consider are: Who would be the wheelchair pusher? It can be very tiring to push a wheelchair. Epcot and MGM are flat but AK and MK are not as wheelchair friendly. Is your mother able to drive an ECV? Folks suggest going to a store that has ECVs and practicing but they usually are big 4 wheelers. The off site ECVs are 3 wheelers and easier (IMO) to drive than the 4 wheeler park ECVs. Most of the bus drivers I have met are very helpful. Please don't be frightened of using Disney transportation. We don't rent a car anymore we use Disney transportation to go all around the property. I really like having my ECV at Downtown Disney.
Best wishes for a great trip.

[SueM in MN]

POR:
We have stayed there a number of times. It is a large resort, but pretty easy to get around. The food court is very good (even though we are DVC members and don't stay there anymore, we usually have one supper at POR each trip). I'm not positive where they "5 fit in a room" accomidations are - they may not be in buildings 14 or 18. I don't know.
BC:
We've stayed there too. Very nice resort. Close to walk to Epcot and MGM and you would have use of SAB swimming area if the weather is nice.
Wheelchair vs ECV:
Normally, I'd be agreeing with the posters recommending an ECV, but this time, I think a wheelchair might be better, at least IMHO.
That is assuming you have someone to push a wheelchair.

Yes, she will give up some independence with a wheelchair, but unless she is really comfortable operating an ECV, I don't think that 12/28 thru 1/3 is a good time to go with one. I have been at WDW 3 times during that time period and it is really busy. The morning of 1/1 is kind of slow (everyone stayed up late on 12/31!) and 1/3 is very quiet, but the other days are very busy. You are wise not to go to MK because that will be the busiest, most congested park.
This past New Years Eve, DH, I and another couple stayed at BWV. We went to Epcot on NYE. It was actually hard to walk. Practically everywhere we went, you literally could not reach out your hand without hitting someone. And, you pretty much had to follow where ever the crowd was going.
We left the park in the late afternoon, intending to go back to our room, have a snack and a rest and then go back to the park. We ended up taking some drinks and snacks to the porch area that overlooks the Boardwalk. A DJ was just setting up and it was so nice sitting there that we elected not to go back to the park. We spent the evening and New Year's countdown there and actually never went back to the park.
Buses:Our experiences with the bus have been generally positive and I would not worry that much about the buses, whether you have a wheelchair or ECV. If you choose to go with an ecv, have her practice with it until she feels comfortable. As was already mentioned, the hardest are the lift buses, but those are the older buses and there are more of the new ramp buses. If she doesn't want to/feel comfortable driving on, someone else in your party can do it for her or it can be put into a free-wheeling mode and rolled onto the b us (just be sure it is not in freewheeling while on a lift or when it is tied down on the bus. If it is free-wheeling at those times, it could roll away!

At that time of year, I would take the buses, rather than driving. If the parks are busy, the parking lots are busy and may fill up. When that happens, that park is closed to guests who are driving. It is still open to people using WDW transportation (some parks -specifically MK, get so busy that the park might close to people who are staying at WDW resorts and taking WDW transportation).
Boats
The Epcot area boats are easy to drive onto. The boat CMs will help you to pull on. It's actually usually faster to walk to the Epcot or MGM from BC than to take the boat.

[*Fantasia*]

Great infos and suggestions! Thanks everyone for your time to reply and you have given me a lot of insights.

Would it be better if I do it during Winter break in February or maybe Easter week? Or maybe just stick with December so they can experience the beauty of the Holiday in Disney?

My parents are early risers... So maybe if we go very early to the park, they will be okay and not encounter elbow to elbow crowds? And then go back to the resort around noon.

I suppose my Dad and I can take turn wheeling her if we do the wheelchair. I asked my Mom today if she ever tried using the ECV and she said she has at the airport and at first she couldn't maneuver it, but my nephew helped her and she said she did fine after that.

I told her that when we go to Disney, that it will help her get around without too much stress. I didn't tell her that we're actually going or that it's definite, but I was just planting the seed in her mind that I want her to come. I haven't told my Dad yet.

Thank you Sue for making me feel comfortable with the ECV and taking the bus. I really would love to stay at BC, but the price is just beyond my reach during the Holiday. I know I can do Jan 1-3 because it's value season and I can apply my AAA.

So you're saying that it would be faster to walk/ride ECV to Epcot rather than boating? But would it be easier to take the boat? So it will be less walk for us?

I know Dec is still far... and I have to see if I have enough money to take my parents in Dec. If not... I guess my other option might have to be in Feb or during Easter. I prefer Easter.. it's my birthday week.

They have done so much for me.. and they have been there for me when my life was flipped over and things were really bad. I just want to do something special for them in return. I know this is going to be a once in a life time with my parents. I just want to make wonderful memories that I can cherish forever and with my children. My Dad is 85 and my Mom is 75. I am the youngest of the 7 children. My Mom has been the Homemaker/SAHM and my Dad retired many years ago from 21 years of serving the US Military. I think they dererve to be at the "Happiest Place on Earth." :) I love them dearly.

Again.. thanks for everyone's help. And please... if there is anything else I need to know or any suggestion or thoughts or if you want to share your experience, you are so very welcome to chime in. I could use all the tips and take in all the infos I can get. Thanks!

Telly
:)

[MomOf2DisneyKids]

Hi Telly! :wave:

I don't have any experience with the ECV, so I can't offer any advice about that, but I just wanted to say HI and to tell you that I think it is so sweet of you to plan this for them. :)

[Nik's Mom]

Life is short. Take your parents and have a great time. I just lost my Dad to cancer 5 months ago and took my Mom in when Dad died. She'l be coming with us for the same reasons you stated. Cherish every moment on your trip!

[*Fantasia*]

Life is short. Take your parents and have a great time. I just lost my Dad to cancer 5 months ago and took my Mom in when Dad died. She'l be coming with us for the same reasons you stated. Cherish every moment on your trip!
Sorry to hear about your Dad. Yes, life is short. I know so, my husband died at the age of 32. My children were 5 and 2.5 years old. I just want to share my happiness and joy that I feel when I am at Disney. And I hope that they will feel the "Magic" and joy too while there.

[*Fantasia*]

Hi Telly! :wave:

I don't have any experience with the ECV, so I can't offer any advice about that, but I just wanted to say HI and to tell you that I think it is so sweet of you to plan this for them. :)
Thanks! And they deserve every bit of happiness. And what better way to experience that joy and happiness...oh and that "magic" at Disney! :)

[BelleNBama]

It's great to hear others haven't had bad experiences on the buses! Maybe I'm just really uncoordinated! I've been using ECV's for over two years now (drunk driver hit me head on and shattered my right leg) so I've had plenty of experience on them but dang it, the buses are still difficult for me!

And btw, we'll be there during Easter (arriving Easter Sunday). We're staying at BW (we're also DVC members). I don't know if one time is any better than the other as far as crowds, but the decorations during the Christmas holiday season are awesome and the entire holiday atmosphere can't be beat!

[minnie61650]

Hi Telly! :wave:

I don't have any experience with the ECV, so I can't offer any advice about that, but I just wanted to say HI and to tell you that I think it is so sweet of you to plan this for them. :)

It is so sweet of you to want to take your parents to WDW.
What a wonderful experience for all of you!
As others have said if you decide to rent an EVC for your mom have her practice at a Target or Walmart or another store where she can gain some experience. The bus drivers have always been very patient and kind when we load my EVC onto the bus. Also as Sue said someone else in your party can load it for her if the bus is the old style with the lift. Remember if you rent from an offsite company they will deliver right to your resort. Mom can use it to get to the food court or pool or all around resort besides the parks.
Have a great time with your parents. Those memories will be priceless.
Linda ::MinnieMo

[*Fantasia*]

Thanks Linda. I think I will take my Mom to Target and have her practice driving the ECV.

I know my parent will love Epcot, especially the WS. Should I just go for the Dolphin Dec 27- Jan 1. It will cost me about $319 per night including the extra adult. This is one with the balcony and the resort view. Or do the POR for 221 a night including extra adult std view for Dec 27- Jan 1. Or do POR for Dec 29- Jan 1 and then BC from Jan 1-3??

I am going to also post this on the other board. Just to maybe get more replies. Thanks for all your help you have given me!

[jenelope]

I did something similar and convinced my parents to go to Disney with me in Fall of 2002. My parents are in their late 60s and my mom has severe arthritis, so we knew in advance that the usual WDW walking would be impossible for her. I arranged to rent an ECV from an offsite location (I can't remember if it was Walker or Randy's Mobility). They delivered it to the resort the first day and picked it up the last day. It was great having the offsite ECV because Mom could use it to visit DTD and the Boardwalk, too. The only time we had trouble with the ECV was getting off the boat at Fort Wilderness one night. Mom somehow managed to shift it into high gear while we were waiting and hit the accelerator too hard. The arm caught on the side of the boat and she almost slingshotted herself into the lake!

There were times when Mom was a little nervous about parking the ECV on the bus. Dad was a little more confident with it, so we got in the habit of having my Dad actually load the busses with the ECV, and Mom taking over at our destination.

The biggest stumbling block with the ECV is that it took two days to convince my Mom that Disney has their method of dealing with ECVs and wheelchairs and they wanted us to stick with it. Cast Members had to tell her again and again that they did not want to temporarily split up our group so that Dad and I could wait in line and have her catch up through the wheelchair entrance. When the CM says, "wait here," you wait right there; and when they say, "go," you go.

The other point we had to work past, was my Mom feeling like she was slowing us down or depriving me of fun. I just kept telling her that I see all those thrill rides on my other trips, and I wanted to do what she and Dad wanted to do. We compromised a couple of times by splitting up sometimes, so that she and Dad could relax at the resort for a few hours, while I did the commando thing in the parks. We're all people who treasure our alone time, so that worked out very well for us. I never would have thought that I would survive 8 days in a 32 foot motorhome with my parents, but it was the best WDW trip that I've taken so far! :love:

[*Fantasia*]

Thanks for sharing your wonderful story despite of your mom had trouble on the boat at Ft. Wilderness. That's great that you let your parents do and see what they want and not slowing you down. I am going to be the same way where I want them to see things and do things without strainous walk. This trip is more for them. The children and I had done Disney many times and will do more later... So I will not miss much when we skip the things my children and I normaly do.

I think WS is something they will enjoy very much. I will have them try the Spaceship Earth ride and the Soarin' and the Living with the Land. And then at the MGM, I think I will have them see the 3D Muppet Movie, The Little Mermaid, The Great Movie Ride and Beauty and the Beast Show. I might take them to AK and see The Lion King and Tarzan. And I think this attraction will be enough for them. I don't want to stress them out especially during the Holiday.

[spiceycat]

wheelchairs can be folded up.

POR with 5 people will be more than full. and you are adding a scooter. I think you will have a room problem.

the AB section at POR will hold 5 - 2 double beds and the trundle bed.

I would pick 2 rooms at Pop Century first. but hey I want more room and a second bathroom.

FW cabins have a kitchen - but they aren't wheelchair friendly. they would be $339 for your Dec dates.

OKW 2-bedroom dec 28-dec 31 - Wed/thurs 41 points per night, fri/sat 100 points per night - way out of your budget.

value resorts - I happen to love Pop Century - $114 per night - so $228 for 2 rooms (this does not include tax)

all value resorts have 2 double beds.

[*Fantasia*]

wheelchairs can be folded up.

POR with 5 people will be more than full. and you are adding a scooter. I think you will have a room problem.

the AB section at POR will hold 5 - 2 double beds and the trundle bed.

I would pick 2 rooms at Pop Century first. but hey I want more room and a second bathroom.

FW cabins have a kitchen - but they aren't wheelchair friendly. they would be $339 for your Dec dates.

OKW 2-bedroom dec 28-dec 31 - Wed/thurs 41 points per night, fri/sat 100 points per night - way out of your budget.

value resorts - I happen to love Pop Century - $114 per night - so $228 for 2 rooms (this does not include tax)

all value resorts have 2 double beds.
Thanks Pat! I didn't consider the wheelchair in the room that will take up some room. But with the folding chair, I can just fold them and put them aside, that should take too much space should it? Oh my... I forgot... just out of curiousity... does POR have elevators? Hmmm... I suppose value would be better with 2 bathrooms and 4 full size bed. What about BC for Jan 1-3? Would that give us enough space with the wheelchair fold up or with ECV? Thanks again!

[spiceycat]

that scooter is going to take up room in any hotel.

BC is a little bigger - 2 queen beds and a day bed.

you can I think if you fold up the wheelchair place it in the closet or by one of the beds near a wall.

the scooter I just don't know where you can put it and still move around the room?

I think it is bigger than the closet?

you can take the scooter apart - but that is alot of work when you are rushing off to the parks.

that is why I suggest 2 rooms at a value. You and your family in one and your parents in the connecting room with the scooter.

you must ask for connecting rooms if you want this. Adjoining are not connecting. Adjoining are only close to each other.

the AB section does not have elevators. Pop Century does.

[minnie61650]

If you rent 2 rooms at a value I would recommend ALL Stars.
Its my Favorite.
Request a ground floor.
I back my Evc into the room and plug it in.
That way I'm ready to head right out in morming. :moped:

I am 55 years old and travel several times a year. I often stay at 4 star hotels.
So the deluxe resorts do not have anything special for me.
All Star is like being in the heart of the Magic and that is where I want to be.

All Star Music is my favorite.It is quieter because more couples stay there. I love staying at the Clypso building. It is closer to the pool,food court and bus stop.

Here is a site with a map of All Star Sports and All Star Music.
http://www.wdwinfo.com/resortmaps/allstarmap.htm
Scroll down.All Star Music is at the bottom of the page.
The Calypso buildings at All Star Music are #1 and #10 are nearest to the food court and bus stop.
They are the preferred buildings and cost about $12 extra per night.
The Calypso pool at ASMU has Donald Duck.

Here is the map of All Movies.
http://www.wdwinfo.com/resortmaps/allstarmovie.JPG
The Fantasia Buildings are the preferred buildings.
The All Star Movie Fantasia pool has Mickey.
It is a great place to stay .
Preschoolers love it.
It is like being in the middle of a Disney Movie Fantasyland.

The buses are wonderful.

Bus rides are quite short from the ALL Stars according to PassPorter.com

All Star Buses-POP buses---CSR buses--PO buses--- Contemporary
MK 20 min---- 20 min-----15 min------10 min---20 min(mono)
Epcot 10 min-- 20 min-----15 min------10 min---15 min
MGM 10 min----14 min-----15 min------15 min---20min
AK 10 min------15n-------10 min----15 min---20 min
DTD 15 min----20 min------35 min-----15 min---35 min

It only takes 10 minutes to get to Epcot,MGM and AK from All Stars.
MK is 20 min away. That's the same amount of time it takes on the monorail from the Contemporary.

The All Star resorts have 1960 rooms each.
Pop has 2,880rooms.
That means more people in the pools,food court and in line waiting for the bus at POP.
When phase 2 of POP is built it will be 2 bus stops at POP and the 2 POPs will have the same # of rooms as the 3 All Stars.

Also All Star is closer to the main road to get to parks and thats why bus rides are shorter from there than from POP.

A WORD ABOUT BUS SHARING:

It is usually just our stop and maybe one more on the way to the parks. On the way back sometimes its all 3 but often Sports and Music share and Movies has it's own bus back.

I guess some people who stay at POP see all 3 All Star names on the return sign of our bus stop when they head to the POP bus stop and think All Stars also has 3 stops on the way to the park.
(Even when we stop at another AS resort to load up it has not taken more than 5 minutes and we are on our way!)

I have visited WDW more than a dozen times with the 1st time in Oct. 1971. It was brand new. I've stayed at FW, Disney Inn, a few the of Hotels on hotel Blvd., CBR and the towers at the Contemporary. I got to see the MK from my balcony at the Contemporary and I'm happy I got to experience it once. I just prefer the All Star Resorts.
The theaming is pure Disney.
My last 4 visits have been at The All Stars and this fall when we take dd,dsil, and our grandson age 3 we are staying at the All Stars Music. I thought about AKL and even though we can well afford AKL I just wanted Alex to experience the Disney Magic :wizard: at the All Stars on his first visit.
Where else can one find Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse at the pool?
Have a great time at Disney!
Linda ::MinnieMo

[*Fantasia*]

Oh Linda... no need to sell me on the All Star because I already do like them! Thanks for sharing the infos! I do prefer ASMo and the ASports. ASsports gets picked up first and drop off first and that's why I think I like ASsports just a little better. But as far as themeing goes... well... ASMo is definitely has the Disney "in your face." I also like POP too.

I think I might just change my reservation to the value resort. My parents and I will have some privacy, they have their room and we have ours and the children can run around between the two rooms.

Everyone.. thanks so much for all the infos and suggestions and tips! You guys are the best! :) If there is anything else you guys want to add to the infos or more suggestions... please... I am all ears!

Sincerely,
Telly

[spiceycat]

I like water. Pop Century has a lake. the All star don't.

to me it is that simply.

Pop Century attachs an longer crowd. there are probably more wheelchairs at Pop than your other resorts.

the place is pretty level and easy to get around. People don't often get lost at this resort.

[*Fantasia*]

You know Pat, I am just worried about the bus service. I have some not good experience with any value resorts... Sometimes it just takes forever for the bus to get there on the way back the resort. I would love to stay at BC the whole time... but it is just waaaay too expensive during the Holiday and no discount whatsoever!

OFF TOPIC:
I really would love to go during low crowds (early Dec)... but I just don't think I could afford to take the kids out of school. My son is already in 3rd grade and my daughter in 1st grade (not too worried about her). I know I can take them both out without any problem (both in Catholic school). It's just that I would hate for them to miss the lessons in class. If I do take them out.. I think I will let them miss Thursday-Friday-Free-Free-Monday-Tuesday. So he will miss part of the class one week and part of the class the other week, so they won't totally get lost in their class assignments. :SIGH:

Low crowds.. better resort rate and can use my AAA discount.. my parents will not have to worry about waiting at the bus stop forever. I guess we will see how it goes with my children's teacher and class lessons and generally how they are doing in school.

[minnie61650]

Someone asked yesterday if the rooms at ALL Stars are larger than those at Pop.
I replied they are both 260 square but that the beds at POP are bolted to the floor.
You can move a bed against the wall at All Stars giving you more usable floor
space.
Another poster replied:

The PC rooms seem smaller because the bed is closer to the door with a bigger gap being between the bathroom wall and the far bed. At All Stars this gap is about one foot wide.

http://allearsnet.com/acc/asmv59.jpg
http://allearsnet.com/acc/popcent56.jpg

You will notice in PC pic the bed is closer to the door by looking at how close the headboard is while at Movies you have a little more room.

I had never known that. It is one more reason for me to stay at ALL Stars.
I use that extra room by the door when I back my EVC in.
Linda ::MinnieMo

[thumpersfriend]

Fantasia, my opinion would be for you to stay with your original plan for POR or even POFQ. I have thought you could be the Tikiman for POFQ since you love it so much. Then you would know exactly what to expect there and not have any surprises. Do you think they could pitch in and get their own room? I think it would be fun to be able to go with my daughter if she knew all the ins and outs of the resort we were staying at. Whatever you decide, I think you are and wonderful daughter and your kids will have a memory to last a lifetime! Good luck in your decision.

[*Fantasia*]

Fantasia, my opinion would be for you to stay with your original plan for POR or even POFQ. I have thought you could be the Tikiman for POFQ since you love it so much. Then you would know exactly what to expect there and not have any surprises. Do you think they could pitch in and get their own room? I think it would be fun to be able to go with my daughter if she knew all the ins and outs of the resort we were staying at. Whatever you decide, I think you are and wonderful daughter and your kids will have a memory to last a lifetime! Good luck in your decision.
Oh believe me thumpersfriend... I would LOVE to stay at POFQ! But this means I would have to have 2 rooms! And 2 rooms at a moderate with an extra adult fee during the Holiday rate is a lot!! Since I want to take them with me... I don't know if I should drop a hint to see if maybe they can pitch in a little bit to stay at any Disney resort. They are on a tight budget. They are old and on a fixed income. I might even drive them down there just to save money on the flight tickets.

BTW... I would like to think I am the "Tikiman" for POFQ! :teeth: I think I am dedicated to POFQ resort! :love: And thanks for that nice kind words. I would like to make wonderful memories with them that will last a lifetime.

[thumpersfriend]

Fantasia, believe me I have wanted to say you are the Tikiman for POFQ since your last trip. I hope that your parents could help out some and then they would be caught up in you enthusiam for POFQ. Even your kids would be the experts in their grandparents eyes! But whatever you do, I think you will have it completely researched ,thanks to the dis boards. Let us know where you decide to stay.

[*Fantasia*]

Thanks thumpersfriend. I will let you guys know where we're going to end up staying. You guys have been such a great help to me. I very much appreciate it. :)

Sincerely,
Telly