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TheDizDad
08-17-2005, 01:34 AM
I am wondering if anything critical of Disney is deleted or blocked by Admin.

WillCAD
08-17-2005, 02:48 AM
Absolutely not. You'll find plenty of constructive criticism of Disney and Disney policies here, along with lots of Disney Magic.

Once in a while you'll also see bitter, hurtful people lashing out with nothing but anger and hatred, but thankfully selective breeding keeps their numbers at a minimum.

KittyKitty
08-17-2005, 01:23 PM
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Will

minnie61650
08-17-2005, 01:34 PM
Welcome to the DisBoards.
As you now know your post criticizing All Star Sports was not deleted or blocked by the Admin.
Sorry you had some issues during your stay the ALL Stars.
My stays have always been wonderful.
I love being able to take a bus from All Stars and get to Epcot ,MGM, or
AK in 10 minutes.
The MK is 20 minutes away but it takes also takes 20 minutes to get to the MK from the Comtemporary using the monorail.
Hope you enjoyed your time in the parks!
Linda ::MinnieMo

canwegosoon
08-19-2005, 07:32 AM
I think as long as you abide by the posting guidelines you will be fine. I have had a moderator edit a post( I did something I wasn't susposed to do) but really it was for my own protection. ANd they were very nice about it. Since Dizboards is a seperate entity from Disney I am sure you can post your opinion, but there used to be a debate board and that was closed a long time ago...I have posted about my good and bad experiences, and you are going to have people who respond in kind or can't understand what you are talking about. Most are wonderful...just look at Will :cheer2:
I did not see the post Minnie61650 mentioned, but at least she was being friendly. Good Luck to you and your posting. :sunny:

canwegosoon
08-19-2005, 07:34 AM
Absolutely not. You'll find plenty of constructive criticism of Disney and Disney policies here, along with lots of Disney Magic.

Once in a while you'll also see bitter, hurtful people lashing out with nothing but anger and hatred, but thankfully selective breeding keeps their numbers at a minimum.
Will I thought your counter was higher than that(674)!!! :rotfl: I thought it was in the thousands...I always love your posts! :banana:

dogdoc
08-19-2005, 07:38 AM
Welcome to the DisBoards.
As you now know your post criticizing All Star Sports was not deleted or blocked by the Admin.
Sorry you had some issues during your stay the ALL Stars.
My stays have always been wonderful.
I love being able to take a bus from All Stars and get to Epcot ,MGM, or
AK in 10 minutes.
Themkis20 minutes but it takes also takes 20 minutes to get to MK from the Comtemporary using the monorail.
Hope you enjoyed your time in the parks!
Linda ::MinnieMo

I guess you told him!! :badpc: :rotfl2: :p
All my stays have been wonderful too :wave2:

"keep coming back, it works if you work it"

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 07:44 AM
I had a negative post removed yesterday regarding the sweatshops in China story in the news.I think it happens more than we realize.

minnie61650
08-19-2005, 08:50 AM
I had a negative post removed yesterday regarding the sweatshops in China story in the news.I think it happens more than we realize.

I've seen a couple of posts disappear also.
The ones I noticed that disappeared were not because of the OP's
negative experience but because of some the hostile flames that were hurled at the OP.
Actually I think the MODERATORS do a very good trying to keep these boards helpful and friendly.
Linda ::MinnieMo

WillCAD
08-19-2005, 09:19 AM
I had a negative post removed yesterday regarding the sweatshops in China story in the news.I think it happens more than we realize.

We have to also realize that with the huge number of posts per day on the DIS Boards, some of them inevitably get lost due to server errors, database errors, accidental deletion by a moderator, or just plain bad karma.

I used to be a moderator on another site that doesn't exist any more, and our guidelines were pretty simple; we only removed whole threads, not individual posts, and only did so when the thread contained profanity, personal attacks, outright lies, or someone's personal information (some newbies don't realize that it's a bad idea to post your home address or phone number on the open boards!) Going by what I have seen on the DIS since I joined, I believe the DIS moderators operate with similar guidelines.

So if a thread seems to dissapear, don't jump to the conclusion that it's been pulled because somebody disagreed with what you said. First, do a search for the thread - it may have sunk onto page 2 or 3 and you're just not seeing it, or it may have been moved to another board within the site.

If your search comes up empty, PM the moderator of the board where you posted it, and ask politely if it was pulled, and why. The post may not have been pulled, it may simply have been lost.

If your post was actually pulled, don't automatically assume it was because of what YOU said - it may have been pulled because of something that someone posted in a reply. If so, you might not get a PM about it when it happens, but I'll bet that the person who posted something so bad it had to be pulled will get a PM or email from the moderator who pulls it!

And when it comes down to it, if you did indeed post something that got pulled, and you are told so in no uncertain terms by a moderator, just remember that this board is not a public forum. Message boards like the DIS are owned and operated by private individuals, just like magazines and newspapers, and as such the owners are free to legally censor their content at their own discretion. This means that they are under no legal or ethical obligation to publish anything, just like a magazine editor is under no obligation to publish any letters you might send in.

Some folks think that having a post pulled from a board like the DIS is a form of censorship, and is illegal or unethical, but that is a mistaken belief. Boards of this kind are private property, and all the messages on them are there only because the owners grant permission for them to be there, just like homeowners granting permission for politcal ads on their lawns, or business owners granting permission for business or personal ads in their stor windows.

In each of those examples, the owner of the property, whenther it is a home, a business, or a web site, is fully within his rights to remove any content they wish, or to deny permission to display content to anyone who asks.

krdisneybound
08-19-2005, 09:22 AM
I had a post removed a short while back - it was in response to someone else bashsing me and harrassing me prior to that and I just lost my cool. (the other persons always think their way is the right way and nothing else counts - and actually they have had similar situations with other posters on other threads). I just wanted everyone to know that I just wasn't going to take it anymore.

I actually had some very nice PM's about it and it sure made me feel good.

They also removed the other persons (more than one) posts also. And that was fine with me, because I sure got my intentions heard. Some people think they are nice and yet they are horrible people and it eventually comes out.

I think the moderators do a very good job at watching all the threads. They know what is out there.

krdisneybound
08-19-2005, 09:26 AM
excellent explanation, Will

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 09:42 AM
Well in my case it was s simple article on the Disney Sweatshops in china. I did not comment on it. One person answered and asked if i was sure the article was legit. and a second post thanked me for posting it..both very civil posts.

I think it was interesting that it was potentially very anti disney and it was removed within 10 minutes of me posting it..while we were in the middle of discussing. It makes you think.

it is very easy to imagine Disney's benefit to keeping the boards reasonably "clean" so to speak. People here downplay greatly any negative aspects of Disney.... to the extent of lines, crowds, cm help, etc.

WillCAD
08-19-2005, 11:46 AM
Well in my case it was s simple article on the Disney Sweatshops in china. I did not comment on it. One person answered and asked if i was sure the article was legit. and a second post thanked me for posting it..both very civil posts.

I think it was interesting that it was potentially very anti disney and it was removed within 10 minutes of me posting it..while we were in the middle of discussing. It makes you think.

it is very easy to imagine Disney's benefit to keeping the boards reasonably "clean" so to speak. People here downplay greatly any negative aspects of Disney.... to the extent of lines, crowds, cm help, etc.

Yes, it would certainly bennefit Disney to downplay any negativity about their products and services. And they certainly keep a very tight leash on what is published in the official guidebook and on Disney-owned web sites.

However, the DIS is not owned, operated, controlled or influenced by DIsney in any way I am aware of.

Your post dissapearing within 10 minutes of posting sounds more like a database glitch than a removal to me.

Why don't you re-post the article and see what happens.

Mysteria
08-19-2005, 12:08 PM
I'm also sure if it was deleted intentionally the moderators would have good reason for it. For example if there is a chance the story was not true (and I did not read it so I don't know exactly what it was but I get the gist) the DIS would not want to be responsible either legally or ethically for spreading that kind of news. Just a thought.

Myst

jarestel
08-19-2005, 12:11 PM
I am wondering if anything critical of Disney is deleted or blocked by Admin.

I don't think the DIS moderators censor this type of post, but some of the DIS members are mighty sensitive to anything negative about Disney.

huusk001
08-19-2005, 01:07 PM
Well in my case it was s simple article on the Disney Sweatshops in china. I did not comment on it. One person answered and asked if i was sure the article was legit. and a second post thanked me for posting it..both very civil posts.

I think it was interesting that it was potentially very anti disney and it was removed within 10 minutes of me posting it..while we were in the middle of discussing. It makes you think.

it is very easy to imagine Disney's benefit to keeping the boards reasonably "clean" so to speak. People here downplay greatly any negative aspects of Disney.... to the extent of lines, crowds, cm help, etc.
Shelby_36,

I found your post simply by left clicking on your name and left clicking on "Find more posts by Shelby_36". The path showed it was in "The DIS Discussion Forums > Just for Fun > Community Board" forum. Perhaps it was simply moved from the place you originally posted, or it was inadvertently removed and put back once the error/problem was figured out.

Hope this helps.

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 03:47 PM
That was my second post you found. I did repost the article and that one appears to have stayed , for the time being. I am aware Diney does not own this site but it wouldn't surprise me if their employees aren't hanging out to "spread the joy" of Disney

grimley1968
08-19-2005, 03:58 PM
That was my second post you found. I did repost the article and that one appears to have stayed , for the time being. I am aware Diney does not own this site but it wouldn't surprise me if their employees aren't hanging out to "spread the joy" of Disney

That's a pretty big assumption to make, especially in light of the fact that your second posting of the article has remained to this point. I think it'd be more fair to give DIS administrators the benefit of the doubt in this case. After all, I see PLENTY of posts/threads on here that are negative about Disney, and they're not deleted. I really don't think there's some vast Disney/DISboards conspiracy at work here.

safetymom
08-19-2005, 03:59 PM
No need to think there is a conspiracy here on the DIS. Why not jump in and start sharing helpful information and helping others. You will find the DIS a great place for Disney information good and bad.

MndyKaye
08-19-2005, 04:40 PM
Three of us (adult ladies) are going to be at WDW Oct 30th to the Nov 4th. I was wondering if anyone might have some extra seats that we could use on a boat with them, (which we would share the expense of course), for the night of Nov 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
Thanks,
MndyKaye

julia & nicks mom
08-19-2005, 04:49 PM
It is possible that someone posted something in your thread that was against guidelines and that is why the thread was deleted

Duckfan-in-Chicago
08-19-2005, 05:05 PM
That was my second post you found. I did repost the article and that one appears to have stayed , for the time being. I am aware Diney does not own this site but it wouldn't surprise me if their employees aren't hanging out to "spread the joy" of Disney
For your theory to hold water, your post that disappeared would have to have been worse than anything that has ever been allowed to stay on the boards that was critical of Disney.

safetymom
08-19-2005, 05:13 PM
MndyKaye, I suggest asking your question on the Theme Parks board. It will get lost in this thread.

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 07:29 PM
It may or may not have been removed on accident. It seems to be sticking around this time.
Although it surprises me how many people are not upset at all about the accusations.
On a similar topic..I know this is a disney loving site..but before my recent trip I came here for advice and some guidance and really received a lot of positive information. however everything isn't always wonderful at Disney and my family was extremely disappointed by the trip. and I credit SOME of that to the overly rosy picture painted. After our trip I noticed many people asking the same questions i did and getting nonrealistic rosy answers and when I post and say..well that isn't ACTUALLY accurate..i get bashed saying i am stupid for waiting in line,etcetcetc.

I think there is an unbalanced view of Disney here.

safetymom
08-19-2005, 07:31 PM
You are reporting your experience but not everyone has the same one. Hopefully everyone that reads reports on the DIS takes it with a grain of salt. Why not post what your problems were? Maybe someone can help to explain why you had the experience you did.

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 07:36 PM
I posted them at the attractions board when we returned and I was berated some for my so called stupidity. I hate to rehash that. my problems ranged from badly posted wait times, cast members rushing us through attractions(never did have ANY say hello), Cast members having NO knowledge of baby/parent swap, broken down attractions after waiting an hour for the FP. It was NOT a magical experience.

safetymom
08-19-2005, 07:39 PM
Sorry to hear your trip wasn't magical. Instead of complaining why not provide details to help others?

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 07:41 PM
I did and as i've said twice I was talked to like I was a child.

safetymom
08-19-2005, 07:43 PM
But are you doing anything on the DIS to help others avoid the problems you had?

shelby_36
08-19-2005, 07:44 PM
Yes, I HONESTLY answer questions I have experince with on the Attractions board.

dogdoc
08-19-2005, 07:59 PM
Three of us (adult ladies) are going to be at WDW Oct 30th to the Nov 4th. I was wondering if anyone might have some extra seats that we could use on a boat with them, (which we would share the expense of course), for the night of Nov 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
Thanks,
MndyKaye

There is a thread in the Theme Park Attractions and Strategies forum that is Stickied, titled "Illuminations..."
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=560160

You should post this question in that spot for a better chance at getting a reply.

And by the way, you've hijacked the thread, but nobody seemed to pay attention to that

I'm just trying to help you out, not trying to be pushy. But it is kinda comical that this completely unrelated post has not been moved yet, given what this thread was originally started as - the O.P. should be happy :rotfl: