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MickeyMania
07-16-2005, 06:04 PM
I just read a post where someone said the adult clubs get a little too smokey at night... Do they allow smoking in the clubs?

I am truly allergic to smoke and both of my kids suffer from asthma. I rarely find it a problem at WDW - as we know what few smoking areas to avoid. (and my 5 year old isn't afraid to gently remind adults who are smoking in the non-smoking areas :blush: )

Has anyone found this a problem?

kcashner
07-16-2005, 06:31 PM
DCL actually has very strict smoking rules. All of the cabins are supposed to be non-smoking, although you can smoke on your verandah. I say "supposed to" because I've been in inside cabins (no verandah) with cigarette burns on the desk. Obviously, someone had smoked in there.

All the restaurants are non-smoking. The theatres are non-smoking. The night clubs are non-smoking until 9 pm. That, unfortunately, is the problem that I had. After 9 pm, there is a smoking section. The problem is that the ventilation doesn't prevent the smoke from getting into the non-smoking section. And, yes, I know the difference between cigarette smoke and dry ice smoke from the stage.

The open air decks are smoking areas. People do have problems with smokers in the next verandah blowing smoke into their verandah.

Your kids shouldn't have a problem--all kid areas are non-smoking. Since the night clubs are "adults only" after 9, the only place the kids should even see someone smoking would be on the open air decks, and most people are considerate there.

I wish that the night clubs were non-smoking.....but DCL has heard that suggestion many times, and obviously doesn't want that policy.

mom x4,grandma x4
07-16-2005, 06:39 PM
MY DH is allergic to smoke too.
We have done DCL 7 times and never had a problem with smoke anywhere on board. Yes they do allow smoking in the clubs at night. However they do place all the ash trays on one side of the room. I'm sure this is done on purpose so most smokers will sit in the same area. By doing this we sat on the opposite side and never smelled any smoke drifting our way. We were really expecting it too, but decided to try the clubs anyway. I'm so glad we did, we just loved it. There is always the possibility that someone will pick up an ash tray and move to the other side, but I only saw that happen once for sure. They have a great filter system on board too.
On deck 9 they can smoke by the adult pool and a special cafe by the adult pool. This is clearly posted and enforced, no one under 18 allowed. On deck 10 you can walk all the way around with no problem.
There is the Promenade lounge too. It is a family friendly open air, non smoking lounge. They have live music there, usually light jazz, and soft rock. Most duo's will do requests there too. There is a small wooden dance floor that people do dance on. Lots of parents dance with their kids there too. It's a relaxing atmosphere. They have TV's on the walls, sometime s with news or sporting events, but the sound is way down or off when music is playing.
They do strictly enforce the non smoking policy. If you smoke in your room thye will know it and you can be let off at the next port , fined or even do jail time. Like I said we have never had a problem with smoke. The last night on board most people are packing so we have had the clubs all to ourselves. A couple of times there was 2 or 3 other couples, but mostly us and the band. So try to go especially the last night, be ther right when they ar esuppose to staert, it's great. You can talk to the band and have the whole dance floor to yourself. We also had this happen if you have rough seas.People hold up in their rooms I guess, because it was just us and 8 other people in there the entire night.
Good Luck,
mom x4,grandma x4

lbgraves
07-16-2005, 06:51 PM
I remember reading Barb/Inkognito saying that one of the clubs on The Wonder is now nonsmoking. It is possible that they will do this on the Magic if they get a good response about it. I hope that they do this because it will be the only way that DH & I will be able to enjoy the clubs for a change. The clubs smell of smoke even during the day. We can't walk along Beat Street without smelling the smoke throughout the day, even if there is noone smoking at that time. I am also allergic to smoke. You will want to avoid walking thru there if you are also sensative to it. When we are forward on the ship we walk thru the hallway on that deck to the middle stairs or elevators to avoid it so we get out near the atrium. If we want to go up to deck 9, we also go thru the hall to the aft elevators so that we don't have to smell the smoke while walking thru the adult pool area, the Cove Cafe's outdoor seating, or the Goofy pool. The breeze of course blows to the rear of the ship so it hits me right in the face whenever someone is smoking there. With a little planning, it is easy to avoid those areas however.

tvguy
07-16-2005, 06:56 PM
Never had a problem with smoking on the decks or verandahs.
The clubs, that's a different story. We went to some "family" shows and activities in the clubs during the day, and they still smelled strongly of cigarettes. The smokers aren't the problem, the ventilation system in the clubs is the problem. Surprised on ships this new they didn't have better air flow in the clubs. I work in a building built in 1990 with designated indoor smoking areas. They were designed with a special purge system that in 5 minutes will replace all the air inside with fresh heated or air conditioned air.
Of course, now the laws have changed, and it's illegal to smoke indoors, so it's not used now.

Mickeyhugger
07-16-2005, 09:42 PM
Okay, who's turn to make the popcorn?

atigeg
07-17-2005, 12:35 AM
This is inkkognito posting under her husband's ID:
Last time we sailed on the Wonder, Rockin' Bar D was totally non-smoking, and it was great! I am very sensitive to smoke, and while DCL's restrictive policies are much better for me than RCCL, the clubs are the exception. Rockin' Bar D had a smoking section that was literally right in front of the smoking area, so a table right behind you might be smoking even though you were sitting in non. I don't know if that policy has continued since May, but I sure hope so! We were able to spend more time in the club; before, we'd only go for the 70s party and then rush out before my sinuses rebelled completely.
Barb

scrapperjill
07-17-2005, 04:09 AM
I thought they did change the smoking policies so there was NO smoking in the night clubs...???

Here's what I found on the DCL web site...

Where can I smoke onboard?

Smoking is permitted only in designated areas of the ship. Guests are allowed to smoke on open decks (except near Mickey's Pool) and on the verandah of their stateroom. Inside, smoking is permitted within Sessions in the Beat Street entertainment district on the Disney Magic®, within The Cadillac Lounge in the Route 66 entertainment district on the Disney Wonder®, and at the bar area in Diversions on both ships.


So from the looks of it Rock n Bar D is Smoke free. :Pinkbounc :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :cheer2: :Pinkbounc

mom x4,grandma x4
07-17-2005, 08:42 AM
If people want them to continue to keep Rockin Bar D smoke free, take 5 minutes and go to the DCL official web site and click on contact us and let them know that you appreciate this change and hope they will continue it. They do listen to all feedback and act according to what their guests want. We have done this many times and seen many great changes, but they do need feedback from the guests. If lots of people who want it to go back to a smoking area write and not the non smokers, it will go back to what it once was, due to demand. So please take a minute to write and ask your families and friends who have sailed Disney to do the same and it will stay Smoke free. You'll be glad you did. Thanks, mom x4,grandma x4

MickeyMania
07-17-2005, 10:18 PM
I appreciate all the info - and I will surely log onto the website now and log my request! :cool1:

Duckieluckey
07-18-2005, 08:46 AM
If you are bother at all by smoking, stay out of all clubs except the Promenade. The smoke in the other will make you gag. Smoking is permitted on all open decks. The plexiglas shild around much of deck 4 keeps the smoke in. If you go out on your own verandah, you will get smoke from other verandahs. I had a cigarette burn on the dresser in my stateroom also.

Many hotels now charge $125 or more to people who smoke in non-smoking rooms. Disney should do the same. Disney needs more non-smoking clubs and needs to restrict smoking on the open decks.

icartjetta
07-18-2005, 10:03 AM
Can you really be allergic to cigarette smoke? What happens do you break out in hives? I understand not liking smoke but come on, allergic!
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MickeyMania
07-18-2005, 10:10 AM
Fortunately, you have never had the experience of being allergic to smoke.

Luckily - your eyes probably don't swell, your asthma doesn't act up forcing you to an inhaler and your head doesn't pound at the mere smell of cigarette smoke. Be thankful. And please - don't assume you know what I am and am not allergic to. Leave that to my allergist. :)

I was simply looking for an answer to a simple question.

jlowejd5
07-18-2005, 10:28 AM
Trust me, you can be allergic to cigarette smoke. I'm not, but DW definitely is. Thankfully, she's not as bad as some other people (my condolences, MickeyMania) but if she gets a good deep lungful, or it catches her just the wrong way, or maybe she's already got a sniffle and she gets just a little, she is done for the evening.

Let me say that again.

She is done for the evening, and therefore so am I.

Headache, sinuses draining, eyes watering, hitting her inhaler like it's going out of style. She's miserable. And that's a terrible way to spend any day, but even worse when it happens to be on vacation.

Contrariwise
07-18-2005, 10:56 AM
Many doctors call it "smoke irritation" but it is very much an allergy to the people who experience it! You may as well bring your cat and some flowers and rub them directly on my face LOL! For me, the itchy eyes and shortness of breath are unbearable from the slightest amount of smoke- it pretty much feels like coming down with a major cold in the span of 3 minutes.

Asthma can be triggered by many things and cigarette smoke, with its 4000 harmful chemicals, is a major trigger.
Cigarette smoke contains a number of toxic chemicals and irritants. People with allergies may be more sensitive to cigarette smoke than others and research studies indicate that smoking may aggravate allergies. (Quote from National Institutes of Health)

lbgraves
07-18-2005, 10:57 AM
Can you really be allergic to cigarette smoke? What happens do you break out in hives? I understand not liking smoke but come on, allergic!
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that anyone would even make a comment like this!!! Lucky for you that you evidently haven't experienced your head feeling like it is being squeezed in a vice so tightly that you can't breathe. :sad2:

imomtojd
07-18-2005, 11:19 AM
Luckily - your eyes probably don't swell, your asthma doesn't act up forcing you to an inhaler and your head doesn't pound at the mere smell of cigarette smoke. Be thankful.

I second that.

Allergy/intolerance - WHATEVER. I am very allergic to many environmental things and severaly intolerant to cigarette smoke. It can easily ruin my entire day, esp. if I am exposed to heavy indoor smoke. Like MickeyMania said, my eyes water and swell, I have trouble breathing and can't control my cough without an inhaler and it can trigger a migrane. I am not unusual either, many people have one or more of these symtoms.

Lisa

DrCavin
07-18-2005, 01:13 PM
Popcorn is ready... Nachos are warming up :)

Mickeyhugger
07-18-2005, 01:27 PM
Popcorn is ready... Nachos are warming up :)


I'd prefer the kettle corn. :rotfl2:

Disney with Triplets
07-18-2005, 01:36 PM
Popcorn is ready... Nachos are warming up :)


Yep, count me in...watery eyes, stuffy sinuses, sometimes a tight wheeze - call it allergies, environmental irritants, those of us who have it don't care what it's called...we're miserable.

yazee1
07-18-2005, 01:46 PM
I'm going on a cruise and I'm bringing.....popcorn, kettle corn, nachos, beer, and an inhaler.... who's next?

Mickeyhugger
07-18-2005, 02:14 PM
DH is allergic as well. Watery eyes, asthmatic, needs an inhaler, etc.

All that said, he's yet to have problems w/the smoke on DCL, after three cruises. The only place he can remember in which the smoke was heavy, was at Rockin' Bar D. We sat as far away from the smoke as we could. However, the smoke seemed minimal in most other areas. The ship was large enough for us to move away to another area if it became problematic. (We can't even remember any incidents, as we've since sailed other cruise lines in which smoking is permitted indoors at casinos and all bars, and that's another story in itself.) I dislike smoke as much as the next person, but have still had a great time on each of our cruises. In fact, DH even said (after we had to find alternate routes to walk on a Carnival ship in which smoking was permitted at the indoor casinos,) DCL's smoke is NOTHING compared to this.

MickeyMania
07-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Who knew a simple question would stir the pot so much?! Dr. Cavin - make this one with extra butter! (and let's be sure to sit in the non-smoking section, please) :rotfl:

spellhex
07-18-2005, 02:52 PM
Personally, I don't think there should be any place people are allowed to smoke in. Those who smoke are not only killing themselves, but the people around them. Second hand smoke and the smoke that comes out of the other end of the cigarette are even more deadly than the stuff a smoker breathes in. I'm sorry, I just don't want to get lung cancer. Two of my grandparents died from lung cancer, and one of them quit something like twenty years ago.

People vacationing on the DCL shouldn't be thinking about that. Heck, I shouldn't be thinking about that. I'm 14! But I hate smoke. Whenever I pass by someone who smokes, I hold my breathe, because not only its dangerous, but it smells disgusting. It'd be a big downer if I had to frequently avoid areas and hold my breath on a vacation.

Sorry about my mini-rant, I just loathe smoking. I assume that all those that are allergic to smoke get the same reacting as me petting a cat. That's not pretty, lol.

spellhex
07-18-2005, 02:53 PM
That's why I'd much rather live in California than New York. In California, there is no smoking in public places. In New York, its hard to find someone in Times Sqare thats NOT smoking.

mom x4,grandma x4
07-18-2005, 03:05 PM
I just received an E-Mail from DCL about the smoking policies on board. I wrote yesterday to confirm about the report on this thread about Rock in bar D being smoke free. It is true! Wave bands on one ship and Rock N Bar D on the other as well as the promenade lounge are now non smoking. The sports bar lounge, and cadillac lounge, and one the(can't remember the name) on the other ship that's equal to the cadillac lounge are smoking. So there is something for everyone. If this makes you happy, please let DCL know so they will keep it this way. Just thought you'd like to know this information since it came from DCL itself.
mom x4,grandma x4

Honu
07-18-2005, 03:32 PM
We were on the Wonder July 3rd and spent all our outside time at the Mickey Pool because of smoking at the other pools. I wasn't able to handle being in any of the interior spaces that presently allow or have allowed smoking in the past. The stench and residue is there, it just depends how sensitive you are to it. We were fortunate enough to find a non-smoking group to sit with on CC and didn't have any problems on our veranda. Not being able to enjoy the clubs and programs/entertainment offered in those clubs and around the goofy pool at night was a bummer.

Smoking was much worse in the parks though. Hardly anyone observes the smoking areas there. Smoke was everywhere. :crazy2:

inkkognito
07-18-2005, 04:16 PM
Florida is the same as California (pretty much no indoor smoking in any public place except bars), and believe me, you get used to it fast! I spend a lot of time in both FL and IL, and it's so hard to have to breath the cigarette smoke drifting over from smoking sections in IL when I've been spoiled in the Sunshine State.

We're sailing again in Sept., and it's great to hear that Wavebands is still non-smoking. We spent more time there on our last cruise and plan to do so again. It's so much more enjoyable to attend the parties and shows without having to leave early because my sinuses are rebelling.

Barb

mom x4,grandma x4
07-18-2005, 08:32 PM
Honu,
sorry to hear the odor was still present when you cruised. In October the Magic will go into dry dock for two weeks. During that time they do a major rehaul and clean up of the entire ship. They will be changing carpets, drapes, repainting etc... Hopefully after this is done it will help to get rid of the smell that was left there after it became non smoking. I guess it just depends on the luck of the cruise you are on how many are smoking. Our last few cruises we didnt have any smoke or smell of it around the family pool or the deck in general. We walk 9 and 10 constantly with no problem. Only saw a couple of smokers. Guess we were lucky.
Hope the dry dock makes it better for people who are sensitive to the smell, i know it's hard to get rid of without really stripping the place down and replacing everything, which will happen on the Magic and the Wonder next year. Good Luck,
mom x4,grandma x4