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TheHiddenMickey
06-26-2005, 11:10 PM
Hey folks!
:sad2:
I just need to vent for a while. I'm sick of it! Quit it! All this satanism hoobla! Stop! Dressing all in black, the bands that look like theyv'e come out of a car wreck . . . ya you know. Quit! Why? Am I missing something here? What good comes out of it? Tell me. Please! Tell me! :confused3

The point of this thread is that I want someone to explain to me why you would act all the "dark creepy I cut myself I have 47 piercings I love hot topic" way. Please. I just do not get it.



Now I'm gonna put a little disclaimer here before I get 10,000 angry PMs - I am not accusinhg anyone of being a satanist.

HTH
06-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Hey now, I wear all black but I HATE that kind of music (except for the Japanese kind :rotfl: ) I'm more of a Big-band liker.

But, I know where you are coming from. I hate going places and seeing all of these little 12-year-olds dressing in these baggy pants and long chains and stuff. I don't know why, but those pants just irk me for some reason. XD But hey, it's really none of my concern what they wear.

I, myself, tend to be a dark person (Cynical, apathetic, pretty morbid LOL) but I, by no means, consider myself "goth". I just enjoy being very different, but now, it seems like everyone acts that way. T_T

But anyway, sorry if I've offended anyone. =(

WDWHunk
06-26-2005, 11:24 PM
... Pardon?

So dressing in all black makes you dark and means you cut yourself? I must be way out of style then, seeing as how I don't cut myself and I have absolutely no piercings.

Bands that have just come out of a car wreck? Uhh... where'd you come up with that one? ;) I'm failing to find the parralel here.You mean the bands that... what? If its the bands that dress in all black, I think a much better choice of words would be "people that just fell down a chimney into a pile of soot.

Believe it or not, some of us are actually very interested / involved in the gore metal/industrial scene locally (wherever you might live). Personally, I am a horror movie fanatic and enjoy many fetish "acts".

And before you start talking about other people, take a look at yourself. I haven't seen anyone bashing you for enjoying Britney Spears or Good Charlotte.

Thanks :) :wave:

liplocked murder
06-26-2005, 11:32 PM
Since when do all 'dark' bands deal with Satan? :confused3

MonorailDude
06-26-2005, 11:34 PM
Hey folks!
:sad2:
I just need to vent for a while. I'm sick of it! Quit it! All this satanism hoobla! Stop! Dressing all in black, the bands that look like theyv'e come out of a car wreck . . . ya you know. Quit! Why? Am I missing something here? What good comes out of it? Tell me. Please! Tell me! :confused3

The point of this thread is that I want someone to explain to me why you would act all the "dark creepy I cut myself I have 47 piercings I love hot topic" way. Please. I just do not get it.



Now I'm gonna put a little disclaimer here before I get 10,000 angry PMs - I am not accusinhg anyone of being a satanist.
I totally agree with you there. I don't mind seeing someone dressed in black. But once I see the huge ripped up pants, chains, peicings, mohawks, and the "not caring about anything" look. I'd rather people were caring and maybe didn't want to stay locked up from everybody feeling the world is against them. I wish I were born in the 1920's.

HTH
06-26-2005, 11:35 PM
I totally agree with you there. I don't mind seeing someone dressed in black. But once I see the huge ripped up pants, chains, peicings, mohawks, and the "not caring about anything" look. I'd rather people were caring and maybe didn't want to stay locked up from everybody feeling the world is against them. I wish I were born in the 1920's.

The 30's were much better :rotfl: But hey, if you were born in the 20's you could work at the HTH! =D

WDWHunk
06-26-2005, 11:36 PM
I wish I were born in the 1920's.

Ironically, so do a lot of "those" people ;)

MonorailDude
06-26-2005, 11:37 PM
30's are too close to the stock market crashing and the wars though.

HTH
06-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Ironically, so do a lot of "those" people ;)

Your siggie rocks =D

MonorailDude
06-26-2005, 11:40 PM
Ironically, so do a lot of "those" people ;)
You want to play dark boy. ;)

Let's start the debate. Give me a few topics. I have the time to learn a few new things and have an A average. ::yes::

ThinkTink510
06-26-2005, 11:41 PM
woahness

WDWHunk
06-26-2005, 11:55 PM
You want to play dark boy. ;)

Let's start the debate. Give me a few topics. I have the time to learn a few new things and have an A average. ::yes::

Play? Play what? Monopoly?

I don't claim to be a genius or know everything about the world. But I do happen to be a few years older and obviously at least a smidge smarter than you as I don't judge people just by the way they dress or act. Why not let the little teenies have their fun and dress how they want to? Are they hurting you? No. Until they're taking one of those chains that hang off their pants and start beating you in the head with it, I see no problem here.

As for a debate... lets debate. Is there any specific topic you're interested in?

HTH - Thanks I think its pretty cool too :)

MonorailDude
06-26-2005, 11:58 PM
Sorry. I give in. You are too tough for me!!!!!!!!

ThinkTink510
06-26-2005, 11:58 PM
lets debate about boys!!

MonorailDude
06-27-2005, 12:01 AM
WDWHunk. Let's team up.

On the count of 3.

1........... 2...................3....................


NO!!!!!!!

ThinkTink510
06-27-2005, 12:03 AM
lmao!

WDWHunk
06-27-2005, 12:06 AM
lets debate about boys!!

Whats there to debate about? We suck.

xlRacerXlx
06-27-2005, 01:18 AM
lol... whoever posted this is retarded... there's a reason for everything and the key to being successful is just excepting it... now that was a hyppocritical statement :rotfl:

goofyandplutoluver
06-27-2005, 07:38 AM
i couldn't care less how people i don't even no dress :rotfl:

polysisterchick
06-27-2005, 08:43 AM
i have mixed feelings about this.

I don't judge people just by the way they dress or act. Why not let the little teenies have their fun and dress how they want to? Are they hurting you? No. Until they're taking one of those chains that hang off their pants and start beating you in the head with it, I see no problem here

i agree, unless they are actually physically hurting you why do you care. Really those people do care on how they look. If they are getting to you on how you look then really their job is done cuz they want you to look at them. Doesn't everybody tho?

I totally agree with you there. I don't mind seeing someone dressed in black. But once I see the huge ripped up pants, chains, peicings, mohawks, and the "not caring about anything" look. I'd rather people were caring and maybe didn't want to stay locked up from everybody feeling the world is against them. I wish I were born in the 1920's.

but i also agree it can be annoying at times- yes i realize i am contracting myself but when i see like 50 of those people in the mall by the wall watching everybody it is creepy.. those are the ONLY time when i don't like those people.

nightmareb4xmas
06-27-2005, 09:24 AM
okay basically you're saying i'm the child of satan here....

just because you listen to a certain band, doent mean you worship satan.
just because you dress in black doesnt mean you worship satan.
just beacause you shop at hot topic doesnt mean you worship the devil

(How stereotypical!) :rolleyes:

wow...i dont even know where to start with this....first of all, how can you be sick of it? thats very ignorant. omg and i dont think you can get anymore stereotypical here. i mean....okay i dont slit my wrists and i have NO piercings what so ever. its the way some people want to be, weraing black and listening to "just came out of a car wreck" bands, etc., you dont have to "worship satan" either! lol...i say PRAISE THE LORD PEOPLE! i am really offended my the whole satan thing. i've been in a private/catholic school for 8 years of my life, and im going with that education through high school. its so amazing how someone who knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT ME can make the theory up that i worship satan. that just astounds me. oh and what good comes out of it...? well heres a question for you....what good comes out of NOT wearing the "black dark" look??? huh. huh? wow, i know i'll be posting back later

nightmareb4xmas
06-27-2005, 09:28 AM
I dont judge people pn how they dress or act. Why not let the little teenies have their fun and dress how they want to? Are they hurting you? No. Until they're taking one of those chains that hang off their pants and start beating you in the head with it, I see no problem here.

my exact thoughts right there ^ ^ ^

ann-e-mator
06-27-2005, 09:29 AM
Since when does the way a person dress, or the music they listen to decipher who they are? Like two years ago I used to have black and pink hair, and wear clothes from hot topic, and even still I listen to that kind of music... But for the past 5 years I've worked at a camp for autistic kids because I love helping them... I also went to catholic school for 9 years, and come from a very religious family. You can't tell me that if you saw me on the street dressed like I used to dress that you would have thought anything other than OMG she probably cuts herself and blah blah blah... One of the very first things my mother taught me was to NEVER EVER judge a book by its cover... And I'm sorry but I find people like you VERY close minded and I don't think its very fair. Everyone has their own personality, they way they dress or the music they prefer does not necessarily reflect their personality. And next time you "vent" on these boards, make sure it doesn't offend anyone, because I know you just offended a lot of people, including me.

DaisieJ225
06-27-2005, 09:36 AM
Don't judge that which you do not know. Basically, what i'm trying to say is don't judge people you do not know, that's hypocritical and just plain wrong. My main wardrobe is black and i have 6 piercings going right now, that does not mean I worship satan or like these bands that you speak of personally I listen to pop/rock and broadway music. I also have a lot of friends who are into the punk scene that have gotten judged by people before, and if you didn't know them you would think that they were bad kids, but they are some of the greatest people I know.

nightmareb4xmas
06-27-2005, 09:42 AM
i know...i've been jusged a million times before, like you're doing right now. i ignore it usually but when someone bursts out a says, "I'm SICK OF IT!" that pulls me too far. i seriously am really offended. theres a million other people like me out there, being judged evertime they step outside their home...but no matter what, we dont worship satan. and no matter what, we won't change for ANYTHING OR AANYONE! i know for a true fact that there are people in this world that worship satan, but you cant tell a book by its cover. for all you know, your mailman might worship satan! you can especially not get that impression over people you've never met/seen/or spoke to before.

liplocked murder
06-27-2005, 09:47 AM
okay basically you're saying i'm the child of satan here....

just because you listen to a certain band, doent mean you worship satan. just because you dress in black doesnt mean you worship satan.
just beacause you shop at hot topic doesnt mean you worship the devil

(How stereotypical!) :rolleyes:

wow...i dont even know where to start with this....first of all, how can you be sick of it? thats very ignorant. omg and i dont think you can ghet anynore stereotypical here. i mean....okay i dont slit my wrists and i have NO piercings what so ever. its the way some people want to be, weraing black and listening to bands, etc., you dont have to "worship satan" either! lol...i say PRAISE THE LORD PEOPLE! i am really offended my the whole satan thing. i've been in a private/catholic school for 8 years of my life, and im going with that education through high school. its so amazing how someone who knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT ME can make the theory up that i worship satan. that just astounds me. oh and what good comes out of it...? well heres a question for you....what good comes out of NOT wearing the "black dark" look??? huh. huh? wow, i know i'll be posting back later


i know...i've been jusged a million times before, like you're doing right now. i ignore it usually but when someone bursts out a says, "I'm SICK OF IT!" that pulls me too far. i seriously am really offended. theres a million other people like me out there, being judged evertime they step outside their home...but no matter what, we dont worship satan. i know for a true fact that there are people in this world that worship satan, but you cant tell a book by its cover. for all you know, your mailman might worship satan! you can especially not get that impression over people you've never met/seen/or spoke to before.



I don't think this was a personal attack on you

nightmareb4xmas
06-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I don't think this was a personal attack on you
i dont think it was either, but it offended me

daughter_of_amid_chaos
06-27-2005, 11:05 AM
Let's remember to keep this thread friendly with no swearing and no personal attacks.

Thanks!

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 11:07 AM
I don't wear all black, but some of my friends do... it is very offensive to be so stereotypical and tell us that those people are the way you described. I happen to know that they are the nicest people you'll ever meet. Now some people, however, are the way you described. But you can't just say stuff like that and expect us not to get a little upset.

HTH
06-27-2005, 11:12 AM
If you guys would take the time to look, the OP he said he wasn't calling anyone a Satanist at the end of his post. I'm pretty sure the OP just meant people taht are calling themselves that just to get attention.

HTH
06-27-2005, 11:14 AM
By the way, EVERYONE gets judged, so please, do not start that crap of "Because I dress like this I get judged omg omg omg" I can assure you, people that dress "normal" get judged, people who wear costumes out in public *cough* get judged, people who are of a different race get judged, people who listen to rap get judged, people who wear all black get judged. Heck, I'm probably being judged right now as being a meanie.

Oh, and don't say that you don't judge people, because you know you do. EVERYONE does. I do, you do, that girl over there does, ect. It's just how we are.

BTW, this wasn't trying to be mean ^^;

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 11:23 AM
I, for one, just think that it is very one dimensional thinking... If you want to judge people, do it on your own time. Don't make a thread about it. Thanks.

ann-e-mator
06-27-2005, 12:36 PM
I agree :badpc:

poohbear926
06-27-2005, 01:05 PM
hey.. i dress in ALL black.. the only clothes i have r black.. i LOVE hot topic.. i pretty much live in that store .. i shop there like 24/7 ... i love that kinda music. heavy metal. head bangin. punk, rock, all that music... i love the look of the mohawk n the tat ... but i dont get y ppl cut themselves im def NOT a fan of BUT i dont cut myself or have ne pericing or tats the only pericing i have r the 1 in each ear like noral ppl...i repeat.... BUT i dont cut myself or have ne pericing or tats the only pericing i have r the 1 in each ear like noral ppl ... n i dont do drugs or smoke.. im a good kid..im a sweetheart.. like 1 of the nicest people u will probably meet... n i LOVE disney... so like the sayin goes u cant judge a book by itz cover....

Lindsay princess:

HTH
06-27-2005, 01:29 PM
English, please.

liplocked murder
06-27-2005, 01:34 PM
Why does any of this matter? It's not like you see any of these people on a daily basis [a few exceptions for sisters] so you can't even see what they look like. Now you've got everyone's panties in a bunch when none of this really has a damn point.

xCourxCorex
06-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Amen Sistah!

HilaryDuff9008
06-27-2005, 01:57 PM
Me too i am sick of it too like my older cuz she use to love hilary duff but know she like all goth knowI HATE IT!!!

xCourxCorex
06-27-2005, 02:01 PM
^^^
Re: post courtesy of HilaryDuff9008
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO HER THE GI-WUMBO DEBACLE THIS WHOLE BOARD JUST GOT INTO OVER THIS TOPIC?

ann-e-mator
06-27-2005, 02:17 PM
lol cour. ;) :rotfl:

xCourxCorex
06-27-2005, 02:33 PM
:) but seriously, does it really take THAT long to read the three previous pages to see where the conversation is ??? I swear, I'm losing my ming :rotfl:

HTH
06-27-2005, 02:49 PM
Me too i am sick of it too like my older cuz she use to love hilary duff but know she like all goth knowI HATE IT!!!

Your avatar is a bit "goth".


-snickers-

ann-e-mator
06-27-2005, 02:54 PM
Your avatar is a bit "goth".


-snickers-


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

DollfieDreams
06-27-2005, 03:04 PM
okay...lol im just gonna throw my .02 in. because. i happen to like the "just got into a car-wreck" bands. everyone on here who said anything about being judged is right. its ridiculous, and immature. you dont see gothic/punk people yelling at you "ew! your prep! your fashion-model worshipers! just stop! quit it!!" oh grow up. fashion isnt EVERYTHING. i happen to like the gothic/lolita fashions. and happen to dress/create costumes and clothes in the same department. so if i worship satan because of this...than that is a news flash to me. thankyou very much i did take offense to this. and im not saying anyones targeting a single person here. but i am saying that the next time someone starts a thread as ridiculous and immature as this, they need to actually have a point/problem worthy of time and debate.

HollisterSweetie
06-27-2005, 03:10 PM
The point of this thread is that I want someone to explain to me why you would act all the "dark creepy I cut myself I have 47 piercings I love hot topic" way. Please. I just do not get it.


HaHA! :rotfl: I couldn`t agree more. That whole "fad" absolutely disgusts me. I think they do it for attention...

DollfieDreams
06-27-2005, 03:12 PM
I think they do it for attention...

some of it is for attention. i agree. but not EVERYONE who likes it does that. i dont. my friends dont. i think its just stereotypical to say that. and i also think battling over whose outfit/lifestyle is better is a little bit..oh i dunno..stupid?

HTH
06-27-2005, 03:15 PM
HaHA! :rotfl: I couldn`t agree more. That whole "fad" absolutely disgusts me. I think they do it for attention...


What makes you say that?

HTH
06-27-2005, 03:17 PM
some of it is for attention. i agree. but not EVERYONE who likes it does that. i dont. my friends dont. i think its just stereotypical to say that. and i also think battling over whose outfit/lifestyle is better is a little bit..oh i dunno..stupid?


Your signature makes me drool. XD

DollfieDreams
06-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Your signature makes me drool. XD

XDDDDD so does yours! :rotfl: :rotfl:

liplocked murder
06-27-2005, 03:28 PM
If you go get tatoos and piercings for attention you're an idiot

KlInger
06-27-2005, 03:28 PM
WHAT IS THIS?? come on! folks like this are the reason i dont wear all black anymore!! I love hot topic and i love expressing myself through clothing but i get so fed up with...well, darn near EVERYONE!! if mr. Disney were alive today imagine what he would think!! didnt he beleive in self expression and being yourself?? Im sorry but people like you just steam my brocoli!! :headache:

HTH
06-27-2005, 03:39 PM
Nobody's mad at me are they ._. I meant no offense with the judging thing! And I do believe in self expression! XD

KlInger
06-27-2005, 03:47 PM
Nobody's mad at me are they ._. I meant no offense with the judging thing! And I do believe in self expression! XD

uhh... same here!! :confused3

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 03:49 PM
okay...lol im just gonna throw my .02 in. because. i happen to like the "just got into a car-wreck" bands. everyone on here who said anything about being judged is right. its ridiculous, and immature. you dont see gothic/punk people yelling at you "ew! your prep! your fashion-model worshipers! just stop! quit it!!" oh grow up. fashion isnt EVERYTHING. i happen to like the gothic/lolita fashions. and happen to dress/create costumes and clothes in the same department. so if i worship satan because of this...than that is a news flash to me. thankyou very much i did take offense to this. and im not saying anyones targeting a single person here. but i am saying that the next time someone starts a thread as ridiculous and immature as this, they need to actually have a point/problem worthy of time and debate.

I absolutely agree... just because somebody doesn't dress like you, or doesn't listen to the same type of music, doesn't make them a horrible satan worshipping person.

xCourxCorex
06-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Hey, can we lay off the stereotypical accusations of "i'm goth/i'm emo i cut myself for attention" ?? Not everyone who cuts themself is looking for attention. For some it's a way to control some aspect of what may seem like an overwhelmingly chaotic life.. I can live with not being on the same page as far as clothing or music interests, but cutting is a serious issue for some kids, and it's wrong to say that they all "just want attention" because that isn't true.

nightmareb4xmas
06-27-2005, 03:56 PM
how bout we all (including me) now ignore this thread, every post just keeps getting me more mad by the second and i dont wanna end up banned from here

goofyandplutoluver
06-27-2005, 06:05 PM
If you go get tatoos and piercings for attention you're an idiot

i have my ears pierced so i guess i'm retarded

HTH
06-27-2005, 06:06 PM
i have my ears pierced so i guess i'm retarded

Did you do it for attention?

goofyandplutoluver
06-27-2005, 06:06 PM
NOW LISTEN

this thread is going to offend people

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 06:07 PM
You know what guys, why don't you read some of the other posts about trying to get along. This thread should die.

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 06:08 PM
NOW LISTEN

this thread is going to offend people

I think it already has, therefore just stop posting and it will disappear.

HTH
06-27-2005, 06:08 PM
NOW LISTEN

this thread is going to offend people

I was gonna say you weren't retarded! :rotfl:

KlInger
06-27-2005, 06:09 PM
You know what guys, why don't you read some of the other posts about trying to get along. This thread should die.
darn skippy!! :goodvibes

Tink3rb3ll
06-27-2005, 06:10 PM
darn skippy!! :goodvibes

i'm not trying to be the savior or anything. lol

PG Sweetie
06-27-2005, 06:12 PM
This thread is now closed because it's still not going in a good direction I gave it a chane but the fighting needs to stop. If you have a problem with what is said or posted use pm's or don't post at all. This is a nice place and I hope it stays that way.