Week of June 19 - 2006 Marathon Info/Training Thread

[chimera]

Hello everyone!

For those new to us, we're a group of people who are planning to participate in the 2006 and/or 2007 Disney Half or Full marathons. We range from non-running beginners to triathletes. Come join us!

Here's the Marathon FAQ, a great place to answer your marathon questions:
Disney Marathon FAQ (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=725285)
And some websites for further running/walking info:
http://www.runnersworld.com
http://www.coolrunning.com
http://www.halhigdon.com
http://www.running4women.com/
http://www.runnergirl.com/index.shtml
http://www.katherineswitzer.com/fitness.html
The John Bingham site:
http://www.waddleon.com/
Jeff Galloway's site:
http://www.jeffgalloway.com/

Pacing Calculator (http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/calculator2.htm)

Happy Father's Day!

Good 'long run' for me on Sat. 3.5 miles in 59 min...that's with no running. I've developed a new bizarre training schedule. Two TM 5Ks weekly with W5/R1 intervals. One easy TM 5K per week, then I'm going to work up to 4 miles on Sat. I'm going to try to work the intervals down to W3/R1 by the time the 'real' training starts...as soon as I figure out which training method to use :confused3

Good training everyone!

[Tiger Lily 03]

Hi WISH Team!

I missed quite a bit in my “absence” during most of the week. It was so overwhelmingly busy for me. I have read the remainder of the thread last week. Have some carry over comments:

No “unwinding” for me. I have enough trouble “winding.”
Cold after a long run here too. I get goose bumps if it is breezy on a hot day and I am in the shade.
Lisa Happy anniversary! Glad your pt is showing results. Lisa looking less cheeky and wanting to look less cheeky on the other “cheeks.” Glad your wedgy is doing its job. Gadgets list, I think Liz has an ankle torture thing to add to the gadgets list. Medicine ball torture. Sounds complicated.
Swelling when exercising. Yes, I feel it sometimes too.
Lynne has dial-up apple! Yippee. Staying in touch. Hope your six weeks breezes by.
Old clothes for race day. I’ve got mine set aside. Even the plastic bag in case of a rainy day.
Minnie, doing 3 miles in 40 min is WAY cool! That is well below the “sweep” time if you press to go your distance for a 15 min pace you will be fine. Remember you have 3 hours 30 minutes to complete the task. A 15 min pace will “build in some photo ops. Do what you can to not over train. What program are you following?

Whooo Hooo and Welcome to our newbies! This is really growing into a great family of all levels of fitness. I am loving it.

Minnie, don’t think those questions are dumb please. Ask away! I’m wondering about your shoes thing. If they are falling apart, can you complain to your running store? I use Minunos and my “old pair” are Saucony. I like both.

Liz, great job trying to get in your time. I’m glad you knew enough to stop. Hope your ankle is ok. I am enjoying walking/woggin” “with” you.

Krista, did I read that you said I’m still only doing the half???? ONLY! Not Only, you are doing the half!! That is a great thing. Be proud!

Me: I participated in the Relay for Life event yesterday/today and then went for my 7 mile run/wog too! I did sneak home for 3-4 hours sleep in between Relay and run/wog. Came home and napped on and off for the day.

ow! Rash from shorts and 7 miles today. Note to self, compression shorts (tights) for all long attempt from here out. Take a bigger waist pack with body glide. Go to Target to find shorts.

Was hot in the beginning of the week. Did the wog in similar conditions as Craig reported. Felt like running in a sauna!

Had my first run with a group today and almost kept up the entire time. (Usually when I go out, I am at my own pace and not with everyone.) I was really enjoying that this old one was pacing with the young ‘uns for a bit. After our 2.5 miles out we turned around and they did a negative split (going faster on the way back). I could not keep pace with that. They were finished after 5 and I continued as my schedule called for 7 today. I did it. The best part? After I finished and could be done for the day!

Speed work, Our coach today said that it is quite important to have one speed work day in my week for 30 minutes instead of my 45 min “faster” run that I was doing. Said that it would surprise me how much improvement I will see. I plan to try it for a while. I was told to start with 30 seconds run/30 seconds walk. Can I call this fartlek? He he he he (Sounding like Beavis and Butthead laughter)

Garmin users, Question: when you are doing interval using a garmin, does it keep track of the total distance covered too during the intervals?

Hope all of us continue on our training path wherever we are. Have a great week WISH Team.

[Calcio]

Lily

Great work completing 7 yesterday. Remember it's only June and you're well on your way.

I also have chafing problems in the thighs, and in the 2004 WDW half I stoooooopidly wore cotton undies under the running shorts. All I can say is amazing, nuclear chafe-city everywhere. At every medical tent I veered in for more goop to put on the spots, sadly to little benefit.

My solution is a pair of Underarmor undies, which are just long enough to cover the thigh chafe spots. They are barely (if at all) longer than my running shorts, but they cover all chafe areas, and they wick away all my perspiration (wrong term, when I run I sweat!). I now wear them every run, and no longer need vaseline, etc.

Good luck all, I'm off for 5 on another cool morning :teeth: .

Craig

[monte]

Still working on my speed.......did a one mile in 17.10 mins. I'm not at the required speed yet, but I still have over 6 mths. of work ahead of me.

Have a great week! :blush:

[xterratri]

Great job Lily on the 7, especially after so little rest.

Answer to the Garmin question about tracking total distance for intervals-ie, it's set to 9 and 1. It depends- if you reset it but it's the last/latest workout you can look at the rest distance, exercise distance, and totals. If you reset it and then put info for another workout session such as a cool down in there, then the totals overall and for the rest segments are no longer available. At least I can't figure out how to get to them.

It was only 76 and mostly cloudy when I headed out to do my 8 miles today but was up over 80 and clearing off by the time I finished. I did the middle 6 with an OBC classmate that runs close to 80 miles a week, is a single parent of 3, and just finished her first year of med school. Wow! She ran sub-14 minutes for the 2 mile PT test on Friday so obviously she had to go slow to stay with me.

We have formation to get ready to go to the field at 0430 tomorrow morning so I will be off the boards from tonight until Friday when we get back. No cell phones even. Went to Riverwalk in downtown San Antonio last night- very neat, really impressed. Going to have to take a camera next time we go. Tentatively, I think I could probably cope with doing residency in San Antonio. Brooke(BAMC) is a great hospital with some really good training programs and it's actually going to be growing as a result of the BRAC recomendations. Good for the Army, sucks to be Air Force.

Have a great week everyone and keep working hard.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Uh oh--did I just read correctly---Craig is talking about undies, now!!! :blush: Now it isn't just the women talking about underwear anymore :wave: ;).

Back from the wedding---such a beautiful couple...I'll have to post a photo when I have a chance. They are *sigh* on their cruise as we speak. We did take the 528 route home to get a peak at the ships. Hubby doesn't get the fascination, but then asks if I want to exit to get a closer look. I say I am fascinated and like looking--but no need to stalk the ship :rotfl2: .

A lovely weekend--really good wedding food (call me picky--but it was a Holiday Inn and I don't place them up there on fine cuisine--but it was very yummy!). I think I almost ate myself out of my dress this weekend. It was silk so no give in the thigh area and oh boy----it was a little snug when I wore it yesterday. :rolleyes1

We had our "date" on Thursday--saw Mr & Mrs Smith and The Longest Yard and at at some restaurant that had New Orleans Food (Po Boys and Mardi Gras Punch! YUM!). And daddy got his Father's day present early on Friday and went shopping spree-like at JC Penney's. His wardrobe needed serious help anyway--and let's just say I now have the cost and the amount of clothes purchased tucked away in the "bring it up later" arsenol when he goes all :rolleyes: the next time I go shopping for something I need. But the man does look HOT now---got a really nice suit....so I foresee another date night in the future.

I did get to go running on the beach! Fairly flat and packed sand. I did 1 mile, 1/4 and then 1 mile...so yeah me!!! Finally sub-30 on the 2 mile jaunt again. I would have run at my moms house but her road is one of those death trap/road kill type roads--not really safe for pedestrians. And then this morning---ummm....not on your life :rolleyes1 . Back on the wagon tomorrow!


Now off to go look at cruise ship prices.... :rolleyes1 :rolleyes1

[plutosmyfav]

I had a wonderful run today. The weather was gorgeous, my playlist was tweaked to absolute perfection and I headed out for my first 16 mile run. Everything was great except for the shorts. I was at Bob's yesterday and they didn't have any 7" bike shorts so I went ahead and bought two pair of 5" shorts. What's 2 inches? HA! They rolled up on me and I was in for some serious chaffing. Luckily there is a CVS at mile 4, so I stopped infor a tube of vasoline and slathered up. It worked ok. Since I was stopped, I used a rest room, making my stop about 9 minutes. I made two more short stops to re-apply vasoline at mile 8 and mile 12 but that was the extent of my stopping. I carried a 16 oz bottle of water in hand and had one 11 oz gaterade in my fanny pack. I drank the water along the first 8 miles and the gaterade at mile 9. I brought a Goo packet but never found the need for it so didn't open it. I was amazed at how easy this run was (after the heat wave last week). I really think I could have made 20 miles, certainly 18. My pace after subtracting the stops was dead on 10:00. With the stops it came to 10:45. Not bad since I was really taking it easy for the distance.

I ended last week with 35.2 miles total. I'm pretty happy with that. I really need to find a half or 10K to run soon. I'll be having surgery July 25th, I hope I can get ina race before then. It may be a while before I can run again :(

Sunny

[littlegreydonkey]

Morning - first, well done Liz, even though you stopped at 6 miles, doing it twice means you've now mastered six miles, so seven should be a sinch (sp?) next week. And Sunny 16 miles, blimey, in the words of the little french crab thing in nemo 'I am ashamed' as I only did 90 mins this weekend. I just couldn't be bothered, have decided I am tapering to taper (well if I can train to train) as my next half is in two weeks. I have a feeling it's going to be a toughy, it's about 10 degrees here when I run at 5.30 - and 24 where I'm going, only hoping the early start will make it a bit cooler to begin with.

Not much else to report, workload starting to take it's toll so I'm getting very tired - and there's no end in sight. Ah well, better than starving I spose. Helen

[gatorphipps]

Hey all!

The short thing is KILLER! I call the rash you get from it "chub rub". I use to wear the bike short thing, but sometimes that doesn't help! I got the "chub rub" at the 2005 WDW marathon. (THE HEAT!) I haven't gotten it lately though! I use body glide. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Sunny - Congrats on the 16 miler! That is GREAT! It is so awesome when I have a great run like that. Your time was great too!

I have eaten out of control this weekend so I need to get back on track! My brother got married and I have taken the oppertunity to go crazy with the food! I AM OUT OF CONTROL! :crazy:
Well tomorrow is a new day! princess:
Later,
Christa

[Calcio]

Ha Ha Lisa. Yes, there is nothing quite so "exciting" as a 48 year old male wearing underamor long undies under his running shorts. It not only prevents chafing, it also has an affect on every female in the immediate vicinity :rotfl: . My story to my wife is I wear them to prevent discomfort, when the actual reason is they make me run faster because women chase me everywhere I go.

Good work going sub 30 for 2. Keep up the work. Finally we three (Martha, Lesley, and I) are off for our first ever cruise on June 29. I've always wanted to go to the Baltic, and we're using Holland America to visit every cool city in Northern Europe. Hopefully I'll have the chance to do some running during the trip to offset the buffet.

Sunny

I'm envious about the 16. You're doing great.

Christa

Chafing through bike shorts? This is one case where I'm glad someone other than me has discovered a new way to experience pain.

Me, I'm feeling pretty pleased on father's day 2005. 2 session on the bike (30 minutes each), 2 in the weight room, and 2 runs (6.67 and 5.00) this week. Compared to last year I am doing way better. If I can continue to train and not get hurt, I feel really good about the half, and almost confident about the full the next day.

Good luck all

Craig

[Gymbomom]

Wow you guys are great, here I am huffing and puffing with my 4 miles and Sunny is out doing 16 miles all the while she is rubbing lotion on her legs. ;) (JK) :)
Seriously you guys are an inspiration!! Way to go!!

Well, I am going to do 4 in the morning and Tuesday, but then we leave for Camp woth my dd ( I am a counselor) so we will be out a couple of days.

I just really want to stay motivated and get my runs in before!!

Have a great week everyone!
Corey

[Gymbomom]

Okay I have a question......
I can not remember what I put for our pace times for the race. Where can I find that info?
TIA!!!

[lizdotcom99]

Thanks for all the well WISHes!! So nice of you all to bring a big smile to my face!! :flower: I thought for sure I was doomed after yesterday and the pain....and am happy to report.... it is all good!! Got a very nice 3 miler in today. It was quite slow and leisurely as I was with a bunch of people, but it was three miles and that works for me. Not only was it three miles, but it was 3 miles in my CROCS not my running shoes!! :rotfl2:

Craig, I am thinking if you can walk at about a 3 hour 58 minute pace in front of my at the Chicago Distance Classic in your undies....I just might be able to finish in the alloted 4 hours? So, what are you doing August 7th? Up for a little DIS WISH meet? :earseek:

Sunny, you rock! What more can I say? Way to go!! Great run for you. I think you need a big dog collar!!!

Helen, I like your thinking ::yes::tapering to taper.....is it time for me to do that yet? Actually, my long walk is only four miles next week and I know I can do that. So, since I didn't quite get through my 4....and next week is my four, do I do five? Does that make sense? I can't wait for eight!!! :rolleyes:

Corey, have a great time at camp! I remember going and loving it as a kid! Such fun!!

Christa, I thought about getting some shorts but after all these horor stories...I think I am just going to stick with my capri sausage pants. If those roll up, I am in BIG trouble!!! Love, love , love that body glide!!

Lisa, sounds like you had a great weekend! Whoo hoo for your beach running! Sounds like things are going much better for you! I am so glad to hear that. Keep up the good work!

Lynne, you are one busy gal! Sounds like you are having fun? Maybe just a little anyway! Hope you have a great week! Always good to hear that you are doing well.

Monte, good job on your speed. I am quite convinced I am going to get swept pretty quickly in the World! I am going to see how my first half goes in August and take it from there. I ma hoping that I will be able to register after my half in Chicago. My thinking is you only fail when you fail to try! And as our buddy the penguin says it is all about having the courage to start! I am actually starting to believe that!!! :teeth:

Lily :love: you are my rock! Love you for all that you do!!!! :cheer2: You have no idea what your support and encouragement means to me!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Carrie, thanks too for checking in on me!! I cna use all the help I can get at this point!! How was your weekend? Hope it was a good one!!

Mel, about shirts, I think there are many here that can tell you the differance between cotton shirts and cool max shirts. Since I will be wizzing by at light speed...I am quite sure cotton will be just fine for me..... :rotfl: anyway, I might have to bring that post up again, just in case somebody might have not seen it......sounds like your training is going quite well! keep up the great work....and thanks for keeping these threads up and moving!

And to everybody....Happy Father's Day! Hope it was a great one!!

Off to beddie bye for me....one long, but quite productive day!! Happy training!! :cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

[wtpclc]

Hi all! Not a whole lot of time, but I wanted to answer Lily's Garmin Questions.

Lily -If you set the custom screen, there is an option for total distance. I put total time and total distance on that screen. Can't remember the other item.

Craig - Yup, that's what I have to do with my shorts. Any type of short I buy will ride up w/o underarmor underneath. Gotta' laugh. i was goingt o bring up chafing today, but didn't want to drive you away again! ;)

Well, we did the 3/1 r/w Friday. Covered 4.1 miles in 44 minutes. The hardest part was the lack of recovery time for my lungs. Saturaday, we were back to a 3/2 for the dreaded 7 miler! Well, We did ok. We did it at a 11:08 pace and it felt ok. I struggled in the middle, as usual, but had a solid finish. :cool1: DH seems to still be injury free, too, so that's doubly good!

Congrats to all who went out over the weekend! I'll try to do more catch up later, but may be w/o computer for a bit.

[MelRhoads]

Gymbomom - if you registered online, they should have sent you a confirmation e-mail that includes all of the info you entered, including your pace!

Hope everyone had a great weekend. I got to ride 20 and run 4 yesterday without any toddlers or toys! YEAH! Just did 3 on the treadmill while the boy watched his kiddie shows. Big shock.. I've seen them all before! Still better than pushing boy and toys in the heat! When I push, I have to run and sing songs to him while watching him enjoy his m&m's and fruit snacks. So unfair!

Craig - what training schedule are you going to use for goofy? I have been looking at the higdon intermediate b/c he recommended it on some web site and b/c it has back to back long runs (10 sat and 20 sun). Have you found anything you like better?

Melissa

[welovedis]

Haven't checked in here for a bit & come to find that you're talking undies, woohoo! :blush:

Compression shorts are all I seem to wear to the gym, wish I could find them in some different colors, so far I have navy blue & black & navy blue & black, lol! I did see some in white, but I'm not going there, lol!!!! :blush:

Did my first 5K this past weekend and was surprised at a good finish time (for me at least) of 35:16. I ran with DH & I think he got me running a bit faster than I am used to. Don't feel too bad so maybe we'll partner up for some more runs when we can.

My DS also did a kid's race and did a mile in 20 minutes---his PT was thrilled--not bad for a kids with some big PT issues and other things going on. He was so proud of himself & we beamed along with him! :cloud9:

[agotta]

Ok, not so good for us. We did spend the entire weekend in the pool. We did some laps and also swam a lot. It really helps my knees while we are getting back into shape. But then Sunday I had a migraine all day and ate an entire bag of cookies (Dh did too!). We grilled chicken for dinner and made salads but the migraine was making me naseous, so I only ate half. DH and I are planning to walk around our new apartment complex. It works well since it is exactly 1/2 mile. I need to start getting into shape fast! No more cookies for us.

[Calcio]

Liz

I've acted as a "rabbit" for many people in many races and lots of training runs. I must admit your request is a first. Usually people want me on their shoulder holding pace and talking them through the course. I've never been asked to stay just in front with my posterior in clear view.

Melissa

I may be setting myself up for a disaster about mile 15 of the full marathon course, but the focus of my training this year will be entirely on the half, with the expectation that slowing down will allow me to finish the full.

Right now I'm doing 2 each per week of run, bike, and lift. The bike sessions are 30 minutes at decent resistence, mostly to recover from the runs while also building cardio vascular endurance and not pounding my legs. The runs are between 7 and 3 miles each week, and hopefully by Labor Day I'll have my long run each week to about 9, with the shorter run about 5, and the bike sessions at 45 minutes. In the fall I hope to hold the same schedule, just lengthen the time of the bike sessions and the distance of the runs. Hopefully, I'll get to a point where the long runs occasionally are 2.5 hours, which should take me around 16 miles.

If I can hold this schedule without injury, and then taper the last week, it's likely I'll finish the half around 1:58, right at 9 minutes per mile.

For the full marathon the next day I plan to take it a lot slower than the half, targeting around 12 minutes per mile. I feel somewhat confident about this strategy based on my 2005 WDW half. Due to injury my longest training run before the race was around 11 miles, but on race day I ran with my wife at a pace quite a bit slower than I usually carry. Even with my lack of long training I wasn't at all fatigued after finishing the half, and felt that I was likely good for 15 to 17 miles that day.

Lastly, I'll continue to work hard on the weights. When I get out there in distance the only place where I really hurt is the outside of my quads, exactly half way between my knees and my hips. The athletic trainer at the college told me that lots of leg press/squat work will build power in that area, reducing the fatigue there (I'm sure my weight work contributed a lot to my lack of fatigue in 2005), and I've been following his advice.

Finally, my goals for January are to (1) run a nice half marathon, under 2 hours, and (2) just finish the marathon the next day. If I have to really slow down to keep moving, I will. I really don't care about my time for the full, as long as I finish.

Well, that's my plan in full blown glory. In 29 weeks I'll find out if I really understand what my body is capable of, or if instead I'm just a fool.

Craig

[welovedis]

Just realize I broke the 200 day mark, it is now 199 days before we leave for our 1/2 marathon trip! :goodvibes

[gatorphipps]

OK! Just to clarify I didn't rub through my shorts, they just weren't long enough. :rotfl: The pain just the same. Bree also had trouble with her shorts. But we live in Charlotte, NC and had not done anything longer than a 16 miler in shorts. It gets COLD here and all the rest of our runs were in pants.

Craig - Pain is the name of my running! :rotfl: Once I fell and skinned my knees up REAL bad at mile 3 of a 20 mile run. It was COLD outside, but I had to tear what was left of my pants off from the knee down. By the end, I looked SO GOOD! :crazy: An EMS driver even slowed down his ambulance to see if I was OK. I did finish the run though! Anything for a story! :goodvibes

You all are GREAT and inspire me! I think I may just take my children to the park and get a run in (husband is out of town for the day so haven't ran yet. The tread mill is a last resort! :rolleyes: )

Have a great day!
Christa

[MelRhoads]

Craig-my plan is to run at my training pace for both. I figure it will be around 10:30 pace for half and just under 11:00pace for the full. My fastest half, which was also my first (gently rolling) was around 2:10 w/ a 9:59 pace. The other half i did as a training run one week before a 20 hr adventure race and it was around 10:30 per mile. It was major hilly with the biggest hill at mile 11. I had a running partner the whole way which really helped pass the time. I also ran that one with an ankle injury! DUH. It didn't really bother me on the adventure race though as we were mostly bush and bike wacking and didn't really run on pavement or gravel for more than 2 miles.

I've been reading the clothing discussion and i have to say i just got my most important piece of running gear in the mail today! I got the long eared, long billed goofy hat. (child size worked fine) I guess I'll have to try it out on a long run just to ensure that ears don't chaffe! I might look pretty goofy doing it here in arkansas - probably can't get away with it like i can at disney.

Melissa

[lizdotcom99]

Liz

I've acted as a "rabbit" for many people in many races and lots of training runs. I must admit your request is a first. Usually people want me on their shoulder holding pace and talking them through the course. I've never been asked to stay just in front with my posterior in clear view.



So, if you would rather hop.....that works OK for me too..... :rotfl2: ;)

[Minnie]

Since clothing was brought up this newbie has a question. When I was out in the heat Saturday I had a rub for the 1st time with the shorts I was wearing. Nothing horrible just anoying. I can imagine though that as the miles and time add up it would get bad.

I was wearing loose Nike cotton shorts and the seams on the inside of the legs was what was getting to me.

I am to self conscious (sp) of my body to wear the biking shorts so does anyone have a different suggestion? Are the cool max clothing worth the cost?

Thanks for any help. I plan on walk/jog on the TM tonight as the heat has rose to the mid 90s here today and I didn't get up early enough this am.

Have a great one everyone!

[lizdotcom99]

Since we are talking about clothes...I will bring this up just one last time....I know Mel is interested in cotton shirts so far....anybody else have any thoughts?


Hey gang!
I have been doing a little research on shirts. I have a friend who can make them for us on the cheep but they would not be Cool Max shirts. They would be a lovely cotton poly blend lime green. Heres the dealio. Because Cool Max shirts are polyester and will need to be silk screened, they are not cost effective. The cost of a silk screend cool Max shirt will be $20-$25 with no names on them. But if we want a less expensive shirt that can be personalized affordably, we can go with the cotton poly blend for about $7 per shirt. If we want these personalized, for $1 extra per shirt, your screen name or real name can be added to your shirt front or back! If you want your name small, like where a pocket would be on the left chest, that can be done for 50 cents per shirt. These shirts come in adult sizes XS to XL. should you need a larger size, and they do come up to 5X, add $1.50. So a shirt with the logo (on the back), the name big on the back and small on the front would cost $8.50. Are we interested in doing something like that rather than going with a Cool Max shirt? Then, of course, for one more small fee-roughly $1 per shirt, these can be shipped to your home prior to the event. In order for me to do this, and I will do this, I need 40 people to say yes, we're going to do it, and please be prepared to pay for their shirts upfront! Also, should there be an interest in spectator shirts, that can be part of the 40 number, as well. Let me know what you think and I'll get right on it! One last thing, any idea on logos? Now I'm off walking, catch ya later!!!

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Just a few words....

Cotton and distance runs = bad combination

cool max or synthetics are the way to go!

[littlegreydonkey]

Hey - sorry to laugh at Craig's expense, but liz that hopping comment made me laugh so loud I've woken up the cat, not easy as he's practically lying on the heater in a stupor.

I'm with Lisa re cotton - I'm not keen on it as it rubs, all my cotton post race t-shirts get thrown in a ball in the gym box (including my prized disney long sleever) never to come out again. The ones I wear day in, day out are all 100% polyester - fashion police you may take me now.

Melissa - if only I could get to Arkansas, I really need to test the tigger tail on my hat on a run over 13 miles but there's no way I'm doing it here, they'd have me committed!!!

That's my lot for today, I'm having real trouble with a job and so nipped in here to 'refresh my brain' - not worked, and now I'm 30 minutes closer to my deadline. Oh poop!!! Helen

[MelRhoads]

I think I actually own one of the shirts in question! I have a bright florescent green cotton poly blend haynes shirt. I would volunteer to test it but it is just too hot to run in a tee. I will say that when I got it at the 10k i was a little excited because i thought it might be run worthy. it is very thin and seems to dry quickly.

[Calcio]

Melissa

If you run the half at 10:30 and the full at 11:00, then you are THE MAN! (or THE WOMAN! as it were). That would be remarkable, doing 39 in about 29 hours with very little decrease in pace. There is no way I'll be fit enough to replicate your time. I'll fly through the half, but the full will be entirely different.

The great part of the WDW races is they are soooooooooo flat, the steepest hill is the underpass by the Contemporary Resort, just before mile 5 for the half, mile 10 for the full. No worries about big hills anywhere. Good luck with the Goofy billed cap. When I finish the full I'm sure my wife will tell me about everyone who finished in front of me and had something "goofy" on. In 2004 when I ran the half in 2:08 her first words after congratulations were to tell me I had been beaten by a woman who ran the entire distance in a wedding gown. At least I passed the guy on crutches at mile 8 :teeth: .

Okay Liz

All I can think of is from Mel Brooks' Young Frankenstein, "Mr. Hilltop, will you hop off the table now?" Hopefully I hop better than that. I will be in Chicago in mid-October, sadly (luckily?) too late to lead you through the distance classic. Good luck with that hot and humid August day.

Helen

Go ahead and laugh at my expense, I'm adjusted to it. You should see my undergraduates when I erase the board too hard, and the eraser slips out of my hand and flies through the air, forcing me to dodge quickly to avoid getting covered with chalk. I do other Goofy stuff in class as well, the classic absent minded professor (with respects and gratitude to Fred McMurray, I always wanted to be a Professor at a small College where I know all the kids and staff, thanks for the inspiration :goodvibes ).

Minnie

Cotton truly = bad. I wear the mid-length underarmor undies under coolmax running shorts, so all moisture wicks out, yet I am still dressed appropriately for my age and stage of life. This weekend I tried on a pair of Adidas splits, black and silver, totally cool, and very short. In the changing room I realized that at age 25 I would have bought them in a minute, but at 48 I dare not wear them out in public. My wife would question my sanity, and my daughter would be appalled.

Best

Craig

[MelRhoads]

Craig- I have no clue if i can really do that. I've never even run a full. my longest road run was a 17 miler and it was just under 11 per mile. In my first half I sprinted it out with a really old guy at the end and he totally beat me! What are you expecting your pace to be on the full? I've tried running with walking breaks on a 21 mile trail run. I didn't train that way, so the walking hurt worse than the running! I was actually considering running 9 mins/walking 1 on both the half and the full and training for it by practicing that way on the long runs. I'm not sure if I want to do that or just walk the water stops. I think it seems like a good idea to spread all of the work out over more muscles. I have a tri this weekend, so I'm not incorporating the walking yet. It is my first, so I'm pretty much planning on just finishing (probably pretty close to last place) They give good goody bags though!

[Calcio]

Melissa

I'll try to hold to a 12 minute per mile pace for the full, or at least that's my plan on June 20. The longest distance I've ever run was 18, and that was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (1984 in Austin, Texas). I think if I'm 9 minutes per mile fit for a half I should be able to do the full by backing off 3 minutes per mile.

Well, it sounds good in theory, we'll see on January 8.

Craig

[NYcpa]

I don't usually post much on this thread as I leave that priviledge to my daughter Xterratri (Lynne). Since she is playing army and without a phone or computer, I decided to take her place.

I have been spending alot of time on the elliptical and just walking. I can't manage the time yet to not get swept for the half but I'm working on it. I figure any exercise is better than none. The treadmill is rather boring and I feel I get a better workout on the elliptical. Hope to go back to Jones Beach and walk 4 miles on the boardwalk either tomorrow or Wednesday.

Everyone keep up the training.

[gatorphipps]

Just got back from a run. Did 3 miles in 21.37 minutes. :cool1: Not as hot here today. Did a 1/2 mile warm up and a 1/2 mile cool down so ran 4 miles total. But did the 3 in my "fast mode".

Melissa - To agree with Craig, YOU DA WOMAN if you can do that!

I am with everyone on the cotton thing. It is bad! I ran a 5k for the police dept and had to wear a cotton shirt. It rained and I felt like I was carrying a person on my back...OK a little bit of an exaggeration (SP?) but you get the picture. Cool max is worth the price!

Minnie - Get you some cool max stuff. Target has great stuff for a great price. That is where I get my running clothes. Cool Max is a name brand so look for the Moisture whisking fabric at Target. It is Champion brand. It works great for me.

Craig - I had to LOL too. Do you hop? :bounce:

Christa

[Minnie]

Thanks guys for the advise. I will look into some new running attire this weekend when I hopefully will be going to the city (fingers crossed). The town I live in is to small to have anything like this.

Boy those 3 miles on the treadmill sure seemed a whole lot longer than on the road. I'm going to try and either go early or late in the day to avoid the heat.

[MelRhoads]

I've never been da woman before in any race, so it is unlikely that i will be for disney. i'm probably overestimating my pace. i should get a much better idea when i'm in the middle of the training schedule.

I'll definitely be da woman in the "goofy" hat. Who wouldn't be proud of that?

[Gymbomom]

I LOVE the shirt idea...how cool!!
Sign us up for three. Now in regards to the cotton/ cool max debate. If we did go with cotton... what about a sleeveless one, that we could wear as a layer?
But, if not as long as people are able to commit to the more expensive shirt, I am!!

[Gymbomom]

Thanks guys for the advise. I will look into some new running attire this weekend when I hopefully will be going to the city (fingers crossed). The town I live in is to small to have anything like this.

Boy those 3 miles on the treadmill sure seemed a whole lot longer than on the road. I'm going to try and either go early or late in the day to avoid the heat.

Minnie I have gotten a ton of my workout things at target. They has some great running shorts, with soft cotton boy short inside....LOVE EM!

I agree with the heat, I am trying to persuade my neighbor to walk with me in the morning as it is still 85 around 9m here in Texas. :earseek:

But, now that I doing longer distances...I get bored to tears on the treadmill.

[wtpclc]

I have to admit that I'll need the CoolMax too. When it cooled down to 70 last week, I just threw on a cottn blend, 'cause it was cold out. I can't believe the difference now that I've gotten used to CoolMax/PlayDry/Other synthetic variations. I thought I was going to die. That was only a 4 miler. I could go for a couple cotton spectator shirts, though.

[chimera]

Time for my torrid shoe affair :love:

Got my package from RoadRunnerSports yesterday. Opened the Saucony...they are nice grey shoes with red trim, but felt too hard for a cushioned shoe when I tried them on. So...onto the next box...ASICS Gel Cumulus VII. Opened the box and oh baby...they are PURPLE! I have PURPLE shoes :cool1: Okay, so they're mostly grey, but the purple trim, soles and insides are fabulous! I may buy 10 pairs so I can wear them forever :love: Oh yeah, they're comfortable too, but I'd probably wear them no matter what.

Howard...welcome :wave: We're all big fans of Cam. What type of training are you starting next month?

Carrie...I think you have the right idea. CoolMax for the racers, cotton for the spectators sounds perfect!

Corey...good point! I think a singlet would be good for layering!

Did I mention my new shoes are PURPLE?

Minnie...I definitely second the Target recommendation. I've gotten all my stuff from there, except the bras from WalMart. They work well now, but I'm interested to see how I do as my distances increase.

Christa...great time on your 3 miles! :banana:


MelR and Craig...you Goofy guys are pretty amazing...just as cool as PURPLE running shoes!! :smooth: I'm thinking if you two will pull me in our wagon for the half, I won't have to worry about the sweepers ;)

Kathy...thanks for carrying the torch for Lynne in her absence. But you can post here even when she's around. That boardwalk sounds nice! I seem to remember you have some pretty fabulous new shoes too!

Helen...hope you made that deadline okay. Now I'm looking for a hat to wear during the half...maybe something in...I dunno...PURPLE!

Liz...do we need an actual WISH team logo...or can we just have Carrie's sayings? We put the saying on the back with our name...then our screen name on the front? And maybe the text on our shirts could be...PURPLE!! (Not entirely joking here...I think the official DIS board shirts are lime with purple text?)

Okay everyone...what color are my shoes? :goodvibes

[agotta]

Finally getting back into it! I did some situps, pushups and lifted some small 10 lbers. Then dh and I walked a mile. Didn't time ourselves (we are pre-pre-training:) I got up early (A big step for me) and walked another mile. Did it in 16:40. I thought it would be more like 18 or 19, so I am excited. My knee has really been acting up. I am going to get a knee brace at lunch. I was diagnosed with PFPS (Patella Famoral Pain Syndrome) when I was 18 and all this "excersing" has been aggravating it. I can't find my old knee brace, so I am just going to get a new one. Hopefully going to the pool tonight, but if not, more laps and a lot of ice:) :cold:

Dh and I haven't started talking about clothes yet, but he thinks we should get the coolmax t's. You girls that are talking about the boy shorts, you run in them? Trying to find something inexpensive. Let me know what you think. :earboy2:

Oh, and your shoes are purple :Pinkbounc

[wtpclc]

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: PURPLE :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

The sad part..... I live Asics. I would love purple Asics. Now for my dilema. I LOVE the local running store. Just went again last night and loved the 2nd owner I met. Love them love them. Picked out the perfect shoes for my dh. Had him try on about 7 pair, but he picked the pair they initially recommended. Love the store. They do not carry Asics. I'm so bummed.

FYI - My 2nd favorite color is purple. My first is pink. Guess what color my Asics are Mel? :earboy2:

[Calcio]

Christa - way to bust the 3, that is flying. With that type of pace I'll never see you in Orlando, you'll be done, showered, and napping before I even hit the finish.

I've had a bunch of nice workouts in a row, and today I really feel 48. I could hardly get out of bed. I suppose that's also good training for January, since I wouldn't be surprised if getting out of bed on Sunday morning after having run the half on Saturday will be the hardest part of the full.

Craig

[sara]

Mel, I bought the ASICS purple shoes yesterday, too. The poor salesman, all I could say was..."purple". He was telling me it was the spring/summer color and the grey (vs white) to keep cleaner. My response, "purple". I don't have any purlpe shirts. Off to Target to look for purple workout clothes!!! :teeth: I love Target. :flower: Back to ASICS, :goodvibes my absolute favorite running shoe...ever. Saucony's are good too, they just take awhile to break in.

Everyone is doing a great job! Tonight is my track meet...I mean speed work. I'll think of it as flying! :earseek: 2 laps running 1 lap recovery, repeat. My kids like it because they get to play on the playground. :earsgirl: :earsboy:

Keep up the great work!!!

Sara

[Gymbomom]

Purple???
I love it!!
I get compliments on mine all the time they are HOT pink and black. :)
After I bought them, I went to the store and got all kinds of matching clothes, my husband just rolls his eyes at me. :)

[MelRhoads]

Mel-I'm so jealous! I wanted the purple, but they didn't have them in my size. I still have the very feminine blue. Otherwise, i have the same shoes and i LOVE them too. I would have waited for a better color, but I'm not into delayed gratification and I had a $13 off coupon! Hope everyone has a great day

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Just a quick check in -- sacrum pain is back...but not during running...so I think it is just a fact of my life--that and I left too many non-core days in there so my abs might have gotten a little softer than they were.

I ran 2 miles today straight through----and Mel finished her 3 before I finished my 2. Yikes!! Way to go, girl!

Took the kitten to the vet today and he was diagnosed with Feline Aids. He is now quarantined in our office. Looking that he may have to be euthanized....he is such a cool kitty that I hate to do it :(. I'm debating with the ages of our cats to just let the little squirt live out his life....but that does put theirs at risk. They are 10yo...followed by a 6 and then a 3. So I don't know what to do. :( :(. He doesn't deserve to go to kitty heaven just yet.

[zoegirl]

[QUOTE=Calcio]Christa - way to bust the 3, that is flying. With that type of pace I'll never see you in Orlando, you'll be done, showered, and napping before I even hit the finish.

Hey Craig - I'll be slowing her down in Orlando so she won't be able to run that fast :rotfl: ORRR maybe I can tie a rope around her and she can drag me at her pace and I can finish faster too ORRR maybe I'll just get behind her and draft all the way in...hmmm sounds like an idea.... :teeth:

Mel - PURPLE Your shoes are PURPLE!! Way cool :cool1:

Lisa - your poor kitty!!! so if you let it around your other cats will they get aids too?

today is rest day...well it's actually work late day so I won't have time to work out or run. Yesterday was boot camp..sprints, lunges, squats, push ups, arm work, ab work....glad it's over.
Tomorrow is hill play with "miss run like the wind" Christa......and gonna try holding my arms out like I'm flying like Helen said to do. I bet that makes me faster :teeth:
~bree~

[plutosmyfav]

So...onto the next box...ASICS Gel Cumulus VII. Opened the box and oh baby...they are PURPLE! I have PURPLE shoes :cool1: Okay, so they're mostly grey, but the purple trim, soles and insides are fabulous! I may buy 10 pairs so I can wear them forever :love: Oh yeah, they're comfortable too, but I'd probably wear them no matter what.



:rotfl2: Last year they were pink! They are my absolute all time favorite shoe. I just bought a new pair last Saturday, put them on straight out of the box and ran 16 miles on Sunday without any discomfort. Ya gotta love 'em :love:

Craig: Weight training is a huge part of my fitness plan, too. Lifting is as much a passion for me as running. I also put alot of time/effort into core strength/training.

Cool Max. hmmmm. I haven't made the cross-over yet. Now you've got me thinking. I have a Target pretty close by. The stuff at Bob's was just too expensive. I've been running in Old Navy tank tops. I can't say that its bothered me, but sounds like Cool Max is the way to go. Thanks!

[chimera]

BTW....

Happy Belated Birthday Kristy!!!! :bday: :dancer: :rockband: !

[gatorphipps]

I WANT SOME PURPLE SHOES! I run in NB and they are always white and blue. :sad2: But they work for me so what can I say!

Lisa - Oh, I am so sorry about your kitty!

Bree - You know you can keep up with me. Hill play tomorrow 0600. FUN, FUN, FUN! Note the sarcasm :rolleyes: (Sorry I am not a good speller! - Is speller a word?) Charlotte is a hilly city so every run is really hillplay!

Mellisa - YOU ARE DA WOMAN! Don't ever think any different! I would like to run some of the 1/2 or full with you (If I can keep up.) Goofy here we come! :rotfl: My last 1/2 was in 2:10 also. (Did I mention Charlotte is Hilly!?)

Craig - You will finish b/4 me, hopping! :crazy:

Will run with hubby tonight, only 4 miles. Then he better take me to get something to eat! I am in the big eaters club. That is why I run!

Is anyone running the 5k too? Bree and I are doing all 3! Does anyone know if the 5k fills up, I haven't signed up for it yet (I have signed up for the goofy though).

Run, bike, and/or swim on friends!
Christa

[wtpclc]

Looks liek we missed a b-day. Happy b-day Kristy!!! :bday:

Lisa - I am so sorry about the kitty. That is such a hard choice. :grouphug:

Sunny - Thanks for the info on the pink ones. I got mine on clearance last year becayuse I didn't want to pay too much if I didn't really start running in them. Well, they were used once prior to March, so that was a good choice. :teeth:

Wow, Craig hopping thourgh a half-miler in under armor undies. Never thought we'd go there. :rotfl2:

[keenercam]

Hi, everyone! I have missed ALL of you! It is so exciting to hear about everyone's training and I am learning so much about PURPLE shoes and the right kind of underwear! Geez, I don't even want to think about chafing in Florida in January.

Lisa -- Glad to hear you had a great time at the wedding, and a lovely anniversary celebration. How's that cruise research coming? :flower:

Thanks to everyone who suggested Target for running clothes -- I am going to check it out soon!

Have found a place to walk that I really like, though I'd love to find something where I am not doing lots of laps. In order to do that, I may need to buy a Garmin GPS 201. Hint, hint! :teeth: (Now that I know keenho may be hanging out on this thread, I will take every opportunity to lobby for a new toy! :rolleyes1 )

So, haven't had a chance to catch up on everyone yet, but I did want to mention that just walking outside on cool evenings, I am learning that cotton tee shirts may not be the best choice. It's hard to believe that until a few months ago, the only time I ever sweated was in WDW in July or August -- now I do it voluntarily :rolleyes: at least 3x/week! Also, while something sleeveless in the coolmax line may be less expensive, I, unfortunately, wouldn't be interested in purchasing a sleeveless option -- unless a singlet is something very light that you wear over a cool max shirt?

Craig -- even though I have a feeling Lizzie would outpace me, I would love to join her as we follow our very own inspirational bunny along the course. :rotfl: BTW, I had never heard of underarmour brand until I saw an ad in a magazine last night for a "reversible" ladies undergarment. ahem. :earseek:

So, where is this "little dog" on training? Have upped my elliptical to no less than 30 minutes at a 15 minute/mile pace during each workout. And am still working on very fast cycling on the recumbent bike in the hopes of building stamina, as I still seem to get a little breathless all too quickly. Not sure if any of the limitations are leftover from 10 years of a scary heart condition, but am still hoping to see improvement, especially as we go into a period of exercising in heat and humidity.

The walking path we found (I am calling it the "fountain walk") is 1.7 miles for 4 circuits, so there is huge potential for boredom. At some point very soon, I will go there on my own and walk as many laps as I can and then figure out what kind of pace I was able to keep up and use that as a baseline for training. Dragged Howard out of bed Saturday a.m. for a "stroll" and we did 4 laps easily in just less than 16 minute pace. Poor guy was like a racehorse chomping at the bit. I kept telling him he could run if he wanted, but he was sweet enough to stay with me.

Did he mention? We gave him an ipod shuffle for his birthday to facilitate his training runs.

Thanks to everyone who has provided so much encouragement -- I am really finding that I am not intimidated any more at the prospect of keeping the pace to walk the half. The advice that everyone gave on my "musings" thread really helped me to re-orient myself and to focus on short-term goals.

Hope to catch up more later.

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Update on kitty...I called my regular vet (we take the cats to a cheap spay/neuter clinic to get their shots)....they said that FIV (kitty HIV--precurser to AIDS) is better than Leukemia.

Additionally--he could be young enough that he's still carrying antibodis from when he nursed his mom and that it could be a false positive. They recommended a follow up test that actually tests for the presence of the virus and not the antibodies.

However if he does have FIV, they said there is no reason to have him euthanized and if all kitties stay indoors, he can live a good life in our home intermingling with the family. We just have to watch for no biting and as a precaution, keep him separated when we are not at home.

[littlegreydonkey]

yeah for everyone's training, yeah for (hopefully) good news on the kitty, and superyeah for purple!!!! Guess whose deadline went away so she's now all skittish (till the next one). Sadly, I can't run long distance in my bright orange reeboks (second favourite colour when mixed with, you guessed it, top favourite colour of purple!) so am stuck with boring blue and white nikes. Someone at my running club is selling white shirts with glow in the dark stripes though!! I have no training news to report, had trouble climbing upstairs from office yesterday so definitely no running - managed to make it to the takeaway though (bad helen).

[NYcpa]

Mel - the running shoes I had on at WDW were gel nimbus ones. Lynne and Erin figured they were appropriate because of their lime green color. I also purchased a pair of the purple cumulus running shoes just like your new ones. I haven't worn them yet but comapring the 2 pair, they felt like they had a little more support for my rolling ankles.

I did 48 min on the treadmill after work and then drove around trying to think of something for supper. Since I have no cooking facilities it was a hard decision. Nothing has any appeal this week. I ended up with a garden salad with chicken added and lite italian dressing. I think I have become burned out by eating out all the time. I need to sit down to a decent home cooked meal eventuallly.

I set the treadmill at a 3.2 mph pace on the random setting so the incline adjusted itself. It seemed like I was going too slow so I had to increase the pace to 3.5 and the progra level to 4. That backfired as my right shin started hurting so I backed the pace back to 3.2. Not fast enough for January but I seem to walk faster outdoors anyway. Have to work on pace for a while and then worryabout the distance.

Keep up with the great job training. We can do this without getting swept.

[Tiger Lily 03]

Whhhheeeeee! Here I am (insert me sliding in breathless) I heard that Craig was giving us a demo on running wear. As I will currently claim to be among the elder (maybe one of the eldest if not THE eldest) on the WISH Team, I need to be up front close so I can SEE him. :earseek: Someone may need to let me have a scooter though, cuz I cannot keep up with ya Craig old man. I have this visual of inspiration. If I can wog faster I can see the Craig show.
Bwaaa haa haa! :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

I made it to Target yesterday where I found some very stylish shorts in a very popular color, Oh gee I now own a blue pair and a black pair of tight shorts. ::MinnieMo Again, sorry for the visual but fashonista that I am, picture a 55 y/o one with tights! Eeeeegad! However, I will not be looking to get any more road rash after this. :goodvibes (I hope) Whilst I was there I could not leave without getting a couple of sleeveless shirts (coolmax type) and a couple of jog bras that I may return as I don’t get much support with them. Yet I may keep them as they are colorful and I can wear better support under. Eeeegad! Now picture a 55 y/o one with tights and colorful jog bras. :crazy: :rolleyes:

So, whoever it was saying that you were embarrassed about wearing the tight shorts. Don’t worry, you are out there. You look maahh velous darlings! :cheer2: :cheer2: P.S. I “disguise” my look a bit with the waist pack I wear. It doesn’t really “hide” much, but I have this security feeling about it for some reason.

Lisa, sorry about kitty. Good news about being able to keep kitty in the family though.

Kristy, happy belated birthday.

Cam, you are making great progress. Seems like you have a good thing going and as long as you keep up with what you do, I am confident you will not see a sweeper anywhere.

Nancy, come post here lots too! We need you.

I was going to run in here yelling
Helen! Where are you? I had a STONKER of a run yesterday. I guess it was the fact that the weekend may have been catching up with me, but I just couldn’t “feel” good about my trek. I put in the time, I did ok, I just struggled the entire time. It was warm, not as hot as it has been and the bugs were bugging me. :p They like to dive bomb me for my sweat droplets on the trail.

I did 30 min of pool work and called it a night.

Purple is the color, I don’t have purple.
Cotton T-shirts for pre race day would be ok.
I had my name on front and back in large print. It was great as people on the sidelines really were able to cheer ME on when they read who I am. I recommend that if possible for anyone.

[Calcio]

Hey Cam

It's great to hear your progress. I well understand the mental fatigue of doing lots of laps, remember I'm the fool who ran 88 laps of our indoor track in December of 2003 to get 11 miles. If you can find some type of route which is an out and back, you'll probably be better prepared mentally for January 7 at WDW. Remember we go from EPCOT to the Magic Kingdom and then back, and there are stretches which are quite long, so you'll see your interim objective but not get there for quite some time. This can be tough on your brain.

15 minute miles give you 1 whole minute of cushion per mile. It may not sound like much, but if you can sustain that in the first 7.5 miles you will be 1/2 mile ahead of the sweepers, which is quite a lot actually. Even if you begin to wear down some in the last couple of miles you'll have enough of a lead to bring you in with plenty of time to spare. As I said in the other thread, when you latch on to others who also are committed to making about 15 minutes per mile it is so much easier. You pull each other, as through some sections you may be fatigued while others feel strong, while later you may carry them. There is no feeling quite like being on someone's shoulder, knowing you are helping each other hold the pace.

Lastly, thanks for posting your encouraging news. Remember that all of us are pulling for you. Having the courage to reach is 90% of the fight, and you're showing that.

And finally, finally, all this talk about fashion (Mel's PURPLE shoes :teeth: ) motivated me to throw age and caution to the wind and purchase those Adidas splits, very short and very cool, black and silver. I'll wear them over the UNDERARMOUR mid length undies, making me cool, dry, and hopefully very studly for my lovely wife of 25 years (we'll both be gross after the half on Saturday, but if she has any sense she'll stay upwind of me after the full on Sunday).

Good luck all, I hope to get 8 miles on Thursday. Tomorrow night, however, is the Jimmy Buffett concert pirate: ! Self, spouse, daughter, daughter's roomate, daughter's closest friend/lacrosse teammate, and teammates male type friend are going to pretend we live in the Caribbean and live the life of leisure. If only!

Craig

[keenercam]

Craig -- Are you a Parrothead? Wow! I knew you ROCKED but I had no idea you really, really ROCK!!! We are going to see Jimmy on 8/26 and I am BEYOND excited!! You'll have to tell me how the concert is. We have never been able to get to one and then a friend emailed me with advance sale information and we got awesome seats. The concert is at the new Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia (home of the Phillies) and we are on the infield (I think Jimmy is sort of just beyond 2nd base).

Have an awesome time!

BTW -- thanks for the encouragement. 1/2 mile ahead? I hadn't done the math -- that is amazing. What an awesome objective -- keeping that pace the first 7.5 miles to have a nice cushion in case I slow down later.

Did 5.88 on the recumbent bike in 30 minutes, then spent 40 minutes on the torture machine -- um, I mean the elliptical cross trainer -- funny thing is, I was struggling after 4:40 and was going to bag it for tonight, but forced myself to get through that ipod song, then the next, and then I was at 10 minutes, figured I should go a bit further and next thing I knew, I was hellbent and determined to make it to 40 minutes. Relaxed the pace a bit after about 25 minutes and only did 2.45 miles total, but it's something!

Have to do figure out a 5 mile course to do out and back. Howard is looking at a 1/2 marathon on October 1, which I fear he will try to do long before he is ready (about 3 months before he is ready, to be exact). But I leave it to his judgment and just stand and watch in awe (very cute muscles! )

[agotta]

Wow! Everyone is doing great. I am still wearing my walking shoes from Target (Danskin), but so far we are still walking. Dh wants to get those new nikes, but I don't think they will have enough support. I don't enjoy running barefoot, so I am not sure what the selling point is.

My knee is still acting up. We went to the pool yesterday and I think today will be a day of rest. Tomorrow I will start walking again. On a positive note, I have lost 4 lbs. It is amazing what cutting out the sweets and spending so much time in the pool will do to you. I am definitely going to have to start researching all this clothing and shoes you all are talking about.

[Minnie]

Hi everyone,

I am almost embarrassed to be so excited about this after reading all of your all wonderful training but if anyone would understand it I think you all would so here goes:

I lowered my 3 mile time by 2 minutes last evening to 38minutes!! I know it’s not much but I was so unbelievably excited to finally make a break through. I upped my wog to 2 minutes of jog and 3 minutes of fast walk which helped the pace. Those last 15 seconds of the jog were tough but I stuck it out. Those of you that can maintain the run are an inspiration and someday I hope to reach a point with a higher job/walk percentage. I think this would likely keep me in front of the sweepers if I can get the mileage/endurance up, is this right?????

I waited until about 8pm last evening as it has been in the 90s here and it was a little cooler but high humidity and I definitely felt the rubbing of those cotton shorts. I am going to get to a store with cool max (thanks for the Target idea) before the week is out somehow!! I am also going to check out those Asics that everyone has been talking about.

Have a great day everyone!

[MelRhoads]

Good morning everyone! Hope everyone has a great day of training. Today is a day of rest for me. I am tapering for the tri on sunday and I'm TIRED! Tomorrow I have a small workout planned with my mom's day out buddies. We are doing a short lake swim and short bike and then we are going out to eat really bad food for my birthday. I'm planning on something chocolate that is covered with fudge. YUM, YUM. I have found that when I train, I cannot get enough calories and I really get worn out if I don't seriously eat.

Christa-that would be awesome to have someone to run part of one of the long races with!!!! I'm not acutally motivated enough to do all that stuff alone, so I was hoping that I would meet someone on the 26 miles to entertain me and to entertain.

Agotta-you are doing great! What kind of pool workouts do you do? Are you a swimmer? I just started swimming about 2 months ago to get ready for the race this weekend. I really admire people who are good at it! I also love water aerobics, but I never go anymore. The water just feels so good. The only thing I really dislike is the sweating is just irritating in the water!

Craig-dude, big step with the shorts! Are they much cooler? I have never done the slotted shorts. (I just go for sale shorts) I did buy some a few weeks ago with the pockets in the back to hold gel. I have to run with nutrition and hydration even on the supported races. I'm not sure how I'm going to carry water and food for the races. I was thinking about either the waist pack camelbak or the hand held water bottle. Both have their drawbacks!

OK-it's pretty obvious that I typing instead of exercising today. guess I need to do something today, so better get going

[Tiger Lily 03]

I am almost embarrassed to be so excited about this after reading all of your all wonderful training but if anyone would understand it I think you all would so here goes:

I lowered my 3 mile time by 2 minutes last evening to 38 minutes!! I know it’s not much but I was so unbelievably excited to finally make a break through. I upped my wog to 2 minutes of jog and 3 minutes of fast walk which helped the pace. Those last 15 seconds of the jog were tough but I stuck it out. Those of you that can maintain the run are an inspiration and someday I hope to reach a point with a higher jog/walk percentage. I think this would likely keep me in front of the sweepers if I can get the mileage/endurance up, is this right????? :worship: Wow! you are doing great! I have been plodding away for over a year in my quest and I feel great that I can FINALLY do a 5k in 39.15 minutes (on a good day) and you are already there! You keep going! You are doing great.You will definitely be well ahead of those sweepers. I made it in ok at my slower pace this January.

Craig, you are so stylin' I'm sure your lovely bride is so proud of you. Congrats on the 25 years to both of you.

Mel, its your birthday (tomorrow?)! Happy Birthday! :banana: :banana: Enjoy your rest day today. Don't do any exercising. You need to rest up for your weekend.

agotta, hope that knee doesn't continue to give you problems.

Today is a rest day for me. Help! I've already hit the cookie jar at work. Mmmm. I have tons of work I am neglecting around the house to keep me busy tonight.

Keep on with it everyone, WE CAN DO IT! EVERYONE!

[TXBelle]

I finally made it back to the gym today. I have been sick with bronchitis since last Tuesday. I slowed down my workout a bit, but it felt good to exercise again. I think I might try to add more running to my program. The 3 minutes walking/one minute running was effortless today. princess:

[agotta]

MelRhoads - Haven't really swam in years, but we love it. Hubby and I race across the pool (running) and it gives great resistance but still gets some of the pressure and stress of my knee. We swim laps too. There are usually a ton of kids, but at quarter to every hour they kick the kids out so we can really swim!! Have a great B-day and eat something chocolate for me!

TXBelle- Hope you are feeling better. Don't push it! Wait until you are feeling great, otherwise it's pointless.

Minnie - Great job! 2 minutes is 2 minutes!! :cool1:

[Calcio]

Minnie

Don't underestimate your improvement. That is a significantly faster time at 12:40 per mile. Time improvements which sound so small over 3 miles really add up in a half or full.

Cam

I was able to see Jimmy last fall when he was in Boston, my first ever Buffett show. He really is quite the showman, and his band has been with him for such a long time, you'll notice how smooth it all goes. The live performances are special, and he plays lots of great songs, such as "Southern Cross," far better then the original artists (in my opinion). If you want an advance peek at a Buffet show, get ahold of his "Live in Hawaii" CD, it has a green label. It contains 3 disks, 2 audio only, and one video with some of his show in Honolulu.

And also, be sure to get to the parking lots early so you can observe the outdoor before the show, show. It's almost as good as what Jimmy does.

Wastin' away in Margaritaville

Craig

[keenercam]

Craig -- It is an absolutely GORGEOUS day here in Wilmington, Delaware -- I hope your weather is similarly GLORIOUS for the concert! Howard and I have had the pleasure of visiting "Margaritaville" in Key West 3 times and I swear, it is like a "fix". I love his "Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays" live CD, but will have to ask for the Live in Hawaii one for my birthday. I have so many wonderful experiences to look forward to before the concert including a trip to NY to see "WICKED" with my DS12 and a first-ever no-kids-no-loving-hubby weekend trip to WDW with one of my dearest, most darling friends in the world. So, while I am truly,truly excited about the concert, I have definitely back-burnered it in my head. You'll have to tell us all about it tomorrow (that is if you are still :cool1: and not feeling :guilty: after an evening of :Pinkbounc, :banana:, :bounce:, :dancer: and :drinking1!

agotta -- I know I don't know ANYTHING compared to the experts here, but I was curious when you mentioned knee problems and Danskin walking shoes. I am no shoe snob, but I have to tell you, I was having SO MANY aches and pains walking in my old New Balance and FILA walking shoes. When I finally went to a running store and got fitted for a new shoe my entire experience changed. It was worth every fraction of every penny I spent on those shoes. I am still wearing them almost 5 months later and LOVING them after every workout. Of course, they aren't cute PURPLE or LIME GREEN -- just white with shades of navy and baby blue. The right shoe, properly fitted to your foot and your gait could make all the difference in the world for you. Just my $.02

Minnie -- Do not minimize the significance of your improvement -- 2 minute improvement is absolutely amazing! And your overall time puts you so far ahead of where you have to be to beat the sweepers. Congratulations! :Pinkbounc

Melissa -- :bday: Here are some :flower2: :flower1: :daisy: for your birthday! I hope you have fun :drinking1 and eating yummies (I have been addicted to WW double fudge cakes myself these days -- only 3 points), so I can definitely share the experience vicariously!

Hey, Lily -- enjoy your rest day, but step away from the cookie jar!!!! Have a great day, sweetie! :flower:

TXBelle--I am so glad you are feeling better, but don't overdo. Are you sure 8 days is enough of a recovery period? Be sure to listen to what your body is telling you and if you start feeling tired, be sure to take some down time.

DH is taking DD16 to her SAT course tonight, so I will be off to the gym by myself. I am going to force myself to do upper body stuff as well as either the elliptical or bike, and then will go do my fountain walk.

BTW -- A new topic I haven't seen discussed here -- "CALLOUSES". DD performs with a competitive indoor colorguard during the winter months and during that time period, like a dancer, she builds up and keeps callouses to protect her feet for the long rehearsals and competitions. Does anyone here get callouses from running? Do you "keep them" or destroy them? Not sure what I should do about mine. Isn't that weird? :confused3

[agotta]

keenercam- Thanks for your $.02. My knee problem is ongoing and I have owned "real" running shoes in the past. The danksin shoes are new and so comfy. They feel great on my arches and give me a lot of support...as far as walking. I know when I need to buy running shoes they will have to be real. Thanks for your input, I really do need new shoes.

[zoegirl]

Hey guys!!!

I'm jealous that ya'll are going to see Buffet. I will only be able to listen to a cd in my jeep pretending I'm at a concert or in the Keys.
I won't go to any of his shows here that are in doors. Had a bad experince last time I went to a show. We seemed to have been sitting in the pot smoking section. Almost choked on the smoke so we didn't stay long at all. What a waste of money for us....

Cam - keep up the good work! Yes I get callouses too, I'm guessing it's a good thing to have some but they are gross aren't they? The feet don't look too pretty in flip flops when you have callouses, blisters, or black toenails...but you look like such an ATHLETE!

Lily - girl you are going to be stylin in your new running clothes...you have inspired me to go shopping too. DH won't appreciate that. ;)

Agotta - I have to agree that you might need to try new shoes. If you have a local running store go and get fitted. It will be money well spent I promise.

TXbelle - I'm sorry you've been sick. I'm glad you're better though. Take it easy on yourself.

MelRhodes - Happy B-day! :bday:
Actually Christa (gatorphipps) and I are running both races together, with my FIL who is our marathoning guru/coach. We've run it the last two years together and have had a blast the whole time....well I do have to say once we hit mile 24 it really wasn't a blast anymore...we were just trying to get to the stinking end! My FIL ran it with us the first year (our first marathon) and I promise he must have taken 150 pictures. We think he ran two marathons that day b/c he kept running ahead of us taking pictures then running back...crazy man...but we love him. :love1:

Today was hillplay for us. We say "play" because we have to remind ourselves that this is play..not work :teeth:. After the third or fourth time up the hill we had to claw our way up. I'm thinking this had to do with us running our mouths. :chat: You'd think after running with someone almost three years and seeing them at least twice a week would make you run out of things to talk about but nooooo not us, but that's cool, having a running partner makes the time go by quicker and on those 20 mile long runs I need someone to help me through it. Well shoot, I need someone to help me through the 10 mile runs!
A funny side note to our run today is we got hit on by a crazy homeless man. We had to stop for a potty break and as we were walking into the convience store we saw him...we have seem him before at Starbucks so we knew something interesting was gonna happen. As I was waiting for Christa to finish I heard him walk in the store..so I kinda "melted" into the storeroom, and spoke ever so softly into the bathroom door crack for Christa to "please hurry, crazy man is here". As we were walking out of the store the crazy man looked right at me (cause we attract them for some reason) as said "well hello darlin" AAAHHHHHHH!!! then he looked at the cashier and said "thems good girls, they're in shape". At that point we got the heck out of dodge, and finished our run..but we had quite a laugh about it....further down the road of course :rotfl:

Hope you all are having a great day!!
~bree~

[plutosmyfav]

Minnie-- Congrats on eeking out 2 minutes! That is huge :cheer2:

Cam-- my feet are disgusting :rolleyes: But I agree with Zoegirl-- we're athletes :cool1: so much for pretty feet!

Agotta-- I've had knee trouble in the past, its awful. I hope yours improves ASAP.

Craig-- have a blast in margarittaville!

Mel-- Happy Birthday :)

I'm having a super running week. Its only half over and I've put in 30 miles :banana:

Sunday was my first 16 miler on the bike path
Monday was a 5.2 mile run at lunchtime on roads near work
Monday was also upper body and abs strenght training and rowing 30minutes
Tuesday was lower body strength training and I got a chance for a late evening run (roads) of 6.2 miles
Today I did speed work at the gym on the TM:
10 minutes at 8:20 pace (7.2 mph)
10 minutes at 8:49 (6.8 mph)
4 minutes at 9:40 (6.2 mph)
3 minutes at 8:00 to round out a 3.1mile/5K in 27:05. I also did rowing for 20 minutes today.

I'm contemplating signing up for the Baystate marathon in Lowell this Oct 16th. Its supposed to be a pancake flat course that is perfect for qualifying for the Boston Marathon, but other than that, a rather dull race with few fans. We'll see.

Keep up the great work everyone :)

[gatorphipps]

Dude! So much fun, so little time!

Agotta - I am with you on the running barefoot thing. I did run barefoot last week on a track b/c of a BIG blister. HATED IT! My calfs are not used to it.

Minnie - GREAT PR! Taking 2 minutes less is wonderful! DO NOT DISCOUNT IT! :cool1:

Cam - I have no callouses, but I do loose toe nails. So cool! They turn black and fall off. :rolleyes: Before anyone says it, my shoes are not too tight or loose. I just have bad toenails. :teeth:

Melissa - Good luck on the Tri! I want to start that, but cannot afford a bike. Also, would it be good to do it with the Goofy training ahead? But, I do need more crosstraining. :earboy2: Also, if you need entertainment, Bree, Ron (our coach), and I are the people to pick. We provide LOTTTTTS of entertainment, and not b/c we are trying to. It just happens! :wizard:

Anyway, yes hill play was alot of craziness today. There is always something to laugh at. Did 4+ miles in 40.22 min last night w/ DH. Will go and run a few tonight with him again.
OH, OH, OH, OH!!!!!! How could I forget? We are going to Hilton Head for vacation on Tuesday......BUT, my (even more Disney crazed than me) ::MickeyMo husband booked WDW (All Star Sports) for Sunday and Monday. We are going to call EVERYDAY to get Saturday too. Hilton Head is 1/2 way b/twn Charlotte and WDW. SO THIS ROCKS SO HARD! :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc
Have great day! Hope everything is spelled "wright" (HaHa) :rotfl2:
Christa

[lizdotcom99]

Hey There! Just checking in quickly!!! Sounds like training is going great for so many!

I am stuck in a weird way again, as I have suddenly decided to swell like a big ballon....everywhere, my left ankle being the worst. I am perplexed! I have no idea why.....well the bloat fairy has NEVER done this much damage....and it seems to be in my other foot and leg as well. Not sure what to do about it, but have been trying to be concious of my sodium intake, which is minimal and other things that I am eating. Not much has changed, so I am quite confused how this is happening....just frustrating. I even slept with my legs elevated and I am still swollen. Any ideas? Do I take a break for a few days...(which I have) or keep going? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! I will be back later to :cheer2: you all on, but for now it is back to work for me!!

Have a great day!

[perfectmatch300]

I'm still here, just have not been on line much lately. The daily thunderstorms have led me to leave the computer unpluggged a lot of the time. I couldn't believe how many of our neighbors lost computers or TV's last year even if they were connected to surge protectors, so we have opted to be careful with ours.

Along with the regular daily thunderstorms here, it has been really hot & humid. I'm still moving, but my pace has been considerably slower than I'd like it to be. Pool work is good, though - at least when I can fit it in between the storms! :umbrella: We have also been hitting golf balls, then chasing them down on foot, and I have been doing a little bit of bike riding.

Sounds like everyone is doing really great with training! :banana:
You big dogs really do inspire this very little dog to keep going!

[MelRhoads]

ok - I cheated a little on the resting - I swam about 1000meters. It felt good and relaxing! Just ate two brownies - trying to load up on some "energy stores" before the race this weekend. Yeah, that's why I ate them!

[gatorphipps]

I just put in my WW points for my meals so far today! I have lost like 20+ lbs but lately I have been eating over my AP (activity points!). Went to steak and shake :goodvibes - It gives me happy thoughts! My points on that meal alone was 40.5! (I only get 20 a day!)AAAAHHHHHHHHHH! :eek: :crazy2: :scared1:
WE WENT CRAZY! I do have the flex points to fall back on, but I am out of CONTROL! HELP!!! :bounce:
My 2 runs will NOT even cover this. That only gives me 6 points per run (each run is 1 hour).
Christa

[MelRhoads]

I try to eat high calorie but low sat fat. I'd like to use my heart for a while longer. If I don't get the calories in, I get really tired and really stick like! Yesterday I think I ate about a week's worth of saturated fat! I had chicken strips, honey mustard sauce, fries, oreo blast from sonic. I completed the meal with tater tots.
I don't think the brownies are that bad in sat. fat, but they were really good!!! We don't have steak and shake yet, but if we did, I be coolin' off with a little chocolate shake!

[monte]

I went on my 6 mile walk today and was able to complete it in 1.5 hr. so that's better than last weeks. I think a friend of mine will be joining the marathon, which will be a great help with the room expense.

Liz....maybe you should go to the doctors???? Sounds painful.

Keep up the great work everyone! :banana:

[lizdotcom99]

Liz....maybe you should go to the doctors???? Sounds painful.


Morning! That was going to be the plan, but miraculously I am healed! :goodvibes Woke up this morning with ankles that actually look and feel like MY ankles. All the swelling is gone and I am VERY happy about that!

Training for me this week has been and is going to continue to be pretty non exsistant. Tonight we are going ot see Little Shop of Horrors, and then I will be working a trade show all weekend and part of next week. That is leaving no time for pretty much anyhting. I am hoping all the walking I will be doing will count for something! Migh even get a chance to get some walking in from the train station to the trade show venue! That is the hope at least!! So, if you don't see much of me this weekend, know that I am working my butt off and missing you all! I will catch back up when I get a moment! Have a great weekend and happy training one and all!!

:cool1: :cheer2: :cool1: :cheer2: :cool1: :cheer2: :cool1:

[agotta]

Ok, so we are still pre-training so this might not be a big deal, but I ran a 1/2 mile this morning in 6:24. I am so psyched! I know I couldn't really have gone longer, I just don't have the endurance yet, but running a half mile for me is a big deal. Knee is still bugging me, but getting better. It felt great last night, no stiffness or soreness. This morning was another story, but I just got out there and ran.

[TXBelle]

I was back at the gym this morning doing my cross training. I did 15 minutes on the bike and 15 minutes on the elliptical machine. It felt good to switch up my exercise routine. Tomorrow I'm going to try to run 3 minutes/walk 2 minutes. I think the biggest obstacle to me committing to the full marathon versus the 1/2 marathon is psychological. I simply can't believe that I can keep up a 16 minute pace for 7 hours, which is the time it would take to walk the full marathon. Seven hours is a long, long time and I remember being so glad when I got to the finish line for the 1/2 and felt that there was no way I could go any further. I know it is all mental, and I do believe that I can train my body to go the distance, but 7 hours? :rolleyes: Anyway, if I can run/walk the marathon, it should take me less time than 7 hours, and mentally I think I can handle that. The point being, I view my ability to run for an extended period of time as the key to my being able to complete the marathon. Therefore, I cannot wait to find out how I feel after I try the run/walk tomorrow.

Heather

[Tiger Lily 03]

Hi WISH Team!

TXBelle-=Heather, take it easy as you get back into things. You know I can so relate to that 7 hour thing and the feeling of need to run off a little of that time. I was thinking I should have friends standing by with morning coffee and McDonalds Happy Meals for me or something along the way. (forget gu or power gel or...It's REAL FOOD I am thinking I should be having in that 7 hour time)
:rotfl:
agotta, that is GREAT! news for you. Your time is improving. Now do understand as you build on distance it will decrease somewhat. Don't be discouraged. Work on speed for some and distance for other days. That is what I am being coached to do. Hope your knee doesn't get any worse there.

Liz, glad your swelling is better today. I'd think your walking at your trade show should count for something. Hope you find a spare window of time somewhere.

monte, glad of your improvement too. As time goes it will do that. Some days I really wonder if the improvement is going too slow for me.

gatorphipps--Christa, I had that problem last couple of weeks about eating everything in sight even if it was nailed down. It has finally eased up some for me. I have not taken the vitamins I was and I am wondering that it has something to do with that or just the my body is working more and looking to find more fuel. Don't know. PD to you that you can get it roped in.

MelRhoads, you were supposed to rest yesterday. :angel: (I say this as I WAS supposed to as well)

Nancy, so glad that you are trying to continue onward. Sorry about that rain interference though. Hope your hip is faring well these days.

Cam, re: callouses. DSs were both in competitive gymnastics program. Their callouses were mainly on their hands. Coach used to tell them to shave them while they were in the shower to prevent skin tearing as they were working on the equipment. I don't know if this is the recommended approach for runners. When I was getting mine in the earlier parts of my program I did soakmy feet and used a scraper to rub away as much as I could. Maybe a good idea would be to make a spa appointment for a pedicure and have them magically massage and pamper those training machines of yours.
:wizard:
Bree, all I can say is Wow! You have surely developed some program. You are lucky to have a friend and coach handy to work along with you too and having such fun is a great bonus.

Sunny, are you planning to do the full or Goofy in January? I ask because if you are doing one in October isn't that cutting it close to do another in January and then Boston? I admire your drive.

Me, welllll I was supposed to have a rest day yesterday. Endedup that DH and I went for a 19 mile bike ride. That and some minutes of stretching at the end took 2 hours. It was just so lovely outside we had to be in it. Not sure of tonight. Supposed to be some kind of running for time. I did that Tuesday and discovered I was supposed to be doing speed or hill work on Tuesday so will see what I do today.

I am wondering. I have an outline of a program that calls for long run on Saturday, rest on Sunday, easy run on Monday, Tuesday is hill or speed work, rest Wednesday, Thursday tempo run, rest Friday.

I have read that when trying to follow a schedule at some point in the calendar if a scheduled training is missed to just skip and move forward. What is everyone doing when faced with having missed something as this?
Actually I am not exactly following this. I am more on the Bingham program, but the group I run with posts this schedule. TIA
:wave2:

[wtpclc]

Hi all! Limited computer time right now, but I wanted to pop in.

Lily - I have read the same info. However, my dh and I will someimes trade days. If I'm busy on Monday (that's a run for us) and free on Tuesday (x-train), we'll switch and run Tuesday. We don't give up our rest days, though. DOn't know if that's right or wrong, but that's what we do.

Whoever asked about callouses, I get tehm too. I remove them to some extent, but I was wondering whether or not I should too.

We did 4.1 miles in 44 min on Tuesday in the heat. I wanted to die, but I am very glad that I finished, as it's the heat that I'm most worried about.

Today's supposed to be anothe rscorcher too, so we'll see how it goes. This 3/1 r/w may kill me, but that that does not kill us makes it stronger, right? ;)

[agotta]

Tiger Lily 03 Thanks!! I know that will decrease, but at least I know I can do it. I think next week we will bump it up to 1 and 1/2 miles. Thanks for the encouragement.

[agotta]

I am an overplanner. I am already figuring out our vacation for after the event. What is race day like once everything is over with? What time does it finish up. Will we just want to go back to the resort and collapse? We are not planning on the parks until Monday and Tuesday, so I am not worried about that, but what should I be planning for Saturday and Sunday? TIA!

[Calcio]

Way to go Carrie, that's really moving. You're making real progress.

We're all safely back from last night's Buffett concert. Beautiful evening, stars, clouds and the occasional airplane in the sky above, and during the second set a yellow moon rising behind the shell.

The guy is an amazing live entertainer. As he told us, it's all here, even the mistakes, no tape or computers are used tonight. The opening set was 12 songs, a brief intermission, the second set was 10 songs, then an encore of 3 songs. He played my favorites, One Particular Harbor, Southern Cross, and Son of a Son of a Sailor, so I came home happy. We also had 4 college juniors to be with us, and they enjoyed the show on stage, as well as the show in the stands and in the parking lot.

Cam

Be sure to get into the parking lots for the pre-show tailgate and entertainment. One of our youngsters was with her Parrothead boyfriend, and she had no idea of what was coming. When she saw her first male wearing the coconut bra and grass skirt, her eyes were as big as saucers.

I was able to do 8 this morning in 74 minutes, my farthest effort since the half on January 9. My plan was about 78 minutes, but I hit the rhythm and ran every mile at pretty much the same pace. I did receive a warning from my body, however, at mile 7, when my left calf (which I blew apart last September, 2 month rehab) and left quad began to talk to me. Lots of stretching and ice after, and I think I need to listen to them and ease off for a week or two.

Best to all. I'd say it's sunny but not hot here today, but then some of you might point out how nice your weather is in March. So I won't do it, no sirree.

Craig

[Minnie]

Hi everyone,

Last night's schedule according to the plan was 30-45 walk or XT. Well I ended up doing a little jog/walk basically to see how long I could hold the jog before having to walk. An embarassing 6 minutes but what the heck it hasn't been too long ago that I couldn't have gone 1 minute without having to walk. I think the new asthma meds are starting to kick in.

I did have kind of an aching/pulling sensation in the back of my leg directly above the ankles. Anyone have a clue as to what that could be? It was a 1st for me.

As a newbie to training should I do the walk/jog on the off days or should I be doing some sort of XT such as swim, ect? What do you all do???

The weather has been plain nasty here lately. I went for my wog at 8:30 last night and it was still HOT with no end in sight yet. I may end up back on the TM if it doesn't let up. I'm definitely planning to hit the stores this weekend cause Craig you were right cotton/heat = OUCH!

Thanks a bunch everyone for not just the advise but for the encouragement. It means more thanu all could possibly know :flower:

Have a great day everyone it is back to the 3 mile wog tonight. Probably very late in the evening once again.

Minnie

[KeenHo]

Hello again, just checking in. The group here looks very supportive. I am running in the half on January 7 with some of you. I have never run in any race over 5 miles, only having done that three times so far. I run in 5K's frequently, but a Half is wholly a different animal. My training matrix I'd like to follow starts the week of July 17th. I saw that there is going to be a Half-Marathon not too far away in Lancaster, PA on October 1st.

Do you think it would be a fool-hardy thing to do to participate in this event only 2.5 months into my training matrix for the January half in WDW? I think it would be a good "test" to show me how far I have come in training at that point, to show me (truly) what a momumental distance this is (over two times my longest race to date).

Let me know your thoughts. I may be participating in a local 5K on Saturday up in neighboring Pennsylvania.

Thanks! Rock On!

Howard
::MickeyMo

[MelRhoads]

Hey everyone! Just in case you wondered, I had my chocolate cake today!!!! I think I might even get to go on a date with my husband for sushi later :-)

Agotta-AWESOME!!!! I'm glad that your run went so well! That is very encouraging.

Christa and Bree - I loved hearing about your hilly adventure yesterday. I seem to get myself in those situations as well! Biking is a little more safe from the crazy people hitting on you perspective, because it is easy to get away faster. I also find that I'm not as hit-on-able with my small head and big bike helmet!

Howard - I say go for it! You can start a 12 week training program (like hal higdon's novice 1/2 mar program) to build up to your half in october and then modify it or do it again for January. I did a couple of half's that way this year. I trained for my first and in feb and then just kept up the long runs, adding several 13milers so that i could do the next half in april. It was fun. I did get injured on one of the really hilly longer runs before the april run, but i did it anyway. I rested later and now am better!

I only trained a little today, open water swim this moring and very short bike ride. I then when to the bike shop for a lesson on how to do a quick flat change in the field. I DO NOT want to have to walk the 19 mile bike leg or drop this weekend due to a flat. So now I know how. I met 2 women doing the tri this weekend. They are going to kick my tail and they are both in my age group! I'm hoping I at least registered early enough to get one of the cool free hats and maybe I'll win a door prize! The last time I did a race with these same sponsors, (adventure race) I won the bike door prize!!! THAT WAS REALLY COOL.

Craig-thanks for only bragging discreetly about your weather! Who cares about our weather in march, we'll be done with Disney by then?

Keep up the hot summer training everyone!

[gatorphipps]

agotta - You asked about plans after the race. I may have missed it, but are you doing the 1/2, full, or goofy? All I can do is speak from my experience....but, after I do a marathon, I am dead. I went back to the room and slept. (after downing a big veggie burger and fries and milkshake! :flower: ) However, 13.1 miles does not affect (or is it effect?) me all that much, unless I run it all out. So plans for after the race really depends on you. Not much help, huh? :rolleyes1 Also, your 1/2 mile time was AWESOME! Keep it up!

Howard - About running a 1/2 so close. Once again, I can only tell you what works for me. :goodvibes Last year, Bree, my hubby, his friend, and I ran a 1/2 marathon in November. Then we ran the full WDW in Jan. It was fine for us, but you need to see if it works for you. Bree and I had been running for over 3 years, but the boys had just started running when their marathon training began in July. I got a PR and was able to move up a corral for the marathon> :cool1:

wtpclc - My coach told me the man who said, "Whatever doesn't kill me will make me stronger" is dead :p He told me this after I quoated this to him.

Tiger Lily 03 - I LOVE TO MIX IT UP! :cool1: Do what works.

Heather - Running this distance is a mental thing! I say you could do it! You have plenty of time to train. After my 1st 1/2 I felt the same way. I even said I could never run 13.1 more miles after finishing. But now that I have, I can look back and say it was worth trying. :teeth:

Did not run today. Going kinda long tomorrow morning with Bree! Only 12 miles (I may sneak another mile on bree to make it an even, or odd, 13. Don't tell her. :teeth: ) but we are not really training yet. I took my 2 girls swimming with my sister and her 2 boys. I have almost convinced her to do the 1/2. I told her to get on the DIS and meet everyone!

Have a GREAT rest of the day!
Christa

[Lisa loves Pooh]

TxBelle: One of our TNT runners did the full in 2004. She walk/jogged it and finished under 7 hours and she's in her 70s. I haven't heard of anyone fully walk it.

Lily: I handle missed days differently depending on the occasion----if it is illness or cold that I miss the day...I don't make it up....if I am out of town--or have a conflict..I will adjust the week to the best of my abilities..but that was b/c of lack of faith on the missing a day and still being properly trained. If I made it easy to miss one, it would be easier to miss another one for this reason and yet another for that reason. I actually marked my plan runs on the calendar--so I had the visual of when things were and where the conflicts would be so that I'd have plenty of time to adjust the schedule so that it wasn't too messed up from having the days all mixed up.

keenho--I think you could run a half--as long as your training miles have you up to that at that time. Rule of thumb--no more than 10% increase each week...so as long as you can get in some decent road time that week and do the 13 miles while following that rule of thumb, you should be okay.

I've only been told to never run a marathon before a marathon as that is more taxing on the body and longer recovery. But we had many half-ers on our team (locally) who did a half prior--but some do race frequently.

My turn:

Kitty update---our vet consulted another vet---they said retest at 6 months age and if test is postive then do some "W" blot test which is $120. They said that it is possible that kitty still has antibodies to mom as it is very rare for kitties to contract the disease from their mom. Now--some may not know...but our cat squiggle...injured herself in a way that is hardly ever seen in a cat in one leg....and she injured BOTH legs. It is seen more in dogs--but rarely....and my cat did both legs. So I'm hoping I lose the lottery in kitten's case and he does come up negative.

OK--my hand is out for smacking...the race horse is out of the barn...I ran 1 mile today--and every 1/4 mile increased the speed....the race horse had to set loose!!! Of course..I was exhausted...but happy. Now I can reel back in the reigns and settle down now.

I get discharged from PT next week....my sacrum issues will probably be life long...but that's okay---I can live with it and they have given me so much insight into getting my body stronger.



wtplc: when training for a marathon--I've been told...no pedicures...and no trying to remove those callouses until after. Told they are war wounds and wear them with pride. Also--once removed, you now have fresh skin that is ready to be blistered again. Could be especiallly problematic as the distances get longer. Treat yourself to a nice pedicure for after the marathon.

Minnie: every training program should have 2-3 rest days for novices (and that does include me!!). To much exercise = overuse and could = eventual injury. So if it is an off day--you should be resting and not doing deliberate exercise. My coaches training schedule is 2 rest days, 1 cross train day, and 3 walk and/or run days. Some runners used the xtrain day as a walk day to work on walking pace since they run their races using run/walk intervals. I will probably use a Pilates workout as my xtrain day.

ETA: I had so much more to this post--but I guess quick reply didn't want to post it...I'll just have to check back in later!

[CinderellaPug]

Hi...I am hoping someone can help me. I am somewhat new to running, I started mid march. Just ran my first 5K about a month ago...and loved it!!! I am interested in doing a half marathon and when I stumbled upon one at disney I got very excited. This seems like the perfect motivation...where do you find out about it...when is it? Where can I find info about it?

Thanks so much!

[gatorphipps]

Cinderellapug - I type in disney marathon and it pulls it up. Some one else may know the exact site. www.Disneyworldmarathon.com is the site.(I just called BREE)
Also, are you going to WDW in 2 days? COOL! I am too! We are staying for 2 days @ All Star Sports then going to HHI in SC! :cool1:
Christa

[zoegirl]

Howdy all!
Hope you guys are having a great evening! Just got back from chowing down on mexican food..good thing I'm running 12 tomorrow, cause the chips alone were probably 1000 calories.

Howard - read your post about possibly doing two half marathons close together. I personally think it wouldn't be a problem. Christa was right in that we did a half in November last year before the whole disney and I also did another whole marathon just 6 weeks after disney. Was tired throughout but still finished in good time. Although most running mags and websites tell you to not overdo it I think you will be fine doing two halfs (or halves?). If you check out the Hal Higdon website he has a thread on running races back to back.

Melissa - good luck on your tri this weekend. I can't wait to hear all about it.

Lisa - glad your kitty is ok but good grief when it rains it pours in your house. Good job on the 1 mile, take it easy on yourself..I know how you feel about itching to "get out of the barn"

liz - glad you're swelling went down in your ankle. If it happens again you should go get that checked out.

Lily - If you skip a training day I'd just go on to the next thing. NO worries.

Agotta - I usually feel like falling over dead after I've run a full marathon. I think some have talked about doing an Illuminations cruise after the whole on Sunday. YOu should go check out the brainstroming thread to see what suggestions everyone has had.

Christa - Girl I am SOOOO jealous you are going to the world then to HHI. But kinda glad the office will be "boss -less" :teeth: (christa's DH is my boss)

Ok folks better get to bed meeting Christa at 6:30 for a 12 miler...ugh!

~bree~

[CinderellaPug]

thanks gatorphipps...I went to the site and am very excited. I am talking to my husband and trying to see if it is feasable for us to get there in January.

We are leaving Saturday morning at 8:30 and will hopefully be in Epcot by mid afternoon. Have a great time!!

[KeenHo]

Thanks for the advice everyone.

I have been running for about 3 or 4 years, mainly 5K's, some years eight or more in a year. I have run in a 5 miler Memorial Day weekend in Spring Lake, NJ (The Spring Lake 5 http://www.springlake5.org) for the past 3 years. So, I am not really "new" to running. I work out often and typically Cross Train for 3.1 miles completing it in close to 24 minutes, lift free weights and bike for 5 or 6 miles. I typically do that 4-5 times a week. I intersperse running here and there in the program, usually a 3.1 mile run also instead of the Cross Trainer.

If I do the October 1 Half in Lancaster, PA... I have three months plus a few days to :

A: Recover
B: Additionalm Training
C: Mentally Get Into the Distance
D. Have my Confidence Boosted

Last Resort if it is murder...
E. Withdrawl from the WDW Half Marathon

Unless I get injured (unlikely) I think it would be a good distance to tackle and it isn't really back to back to back in my book. I will most likely run some other 5K's in between also... like a Jingle Bell Run or something like that in December (if I have time about my training schedule).

Sounds like I am talking myself into it, huh?

Have a great day tomorrow, Nighty Night!

Howard
::MickeyMo

[littlegreydonkey]

Ooooh Feliz Navidad (yat e tat e yat e tat), Feliz Navidad - yes it's Christmas in the donkey household. It's cold, it's dark, I want some presents and so come Sunday 14 adults and 4 offspring are coming round for midwinter Xmas. Now, all I've got to do is hope that the shops have got the mince pies and crackers out (no honestly they do). Even better I only have to run 1 hour this weekend as I'm on taper for my half - then Thursday I'm off to what we call Queenslando (ie the Gold Coast in Australia) - it's got a Seaworld, it's got a Warner Brother's park which will do at a pinch, it's got Wet & Wild and it's sunny. I figure it's going to be the best training for Disney, I get to walk round two small theme parks Friday and Saturday, then run Sunday!!

Now, as I was away for a few days, I'm so not caught up on everyone's news, but Howard, three months between halves should be fine (my closest was two in three weeks). The big mistake you don't want to make though is dropping mileage too much inbetween. I'd rotate 1hr, 1.20. 1.40 then 2hr runs from your first event till Disney and make the most of being already fit - but I have no life, hence my nipping off now to buy a turkey. Merry Xmas. Helen

[Calcio]

Howard

My free and simple advice to you would be you'll have zero problem getting to an early October half, assuming you avoid injury. I suspect right now your max run distance would be between 5 and 6, given the other stuff you're doing. Just build slowly stretching out your longer runs. Stay with the lifting and biking as you increase your endurance, and some of those longer "runs" can be on a bike with decent resistence, just longer time. One possible idea is to do the October half as a true first time event, training as you think necessary, and getting to the finish. You will learn so much in that 13 miles which you can use to adjust your training to improve your performance in January.

You can calculate your theoretical max distance by taking your weekly distance (if you're only running), divide it by 7, and then multiply by 3, so 20 miles running per week gets you to about 9 miles in theoretical max. Since I've aged and mix bike with run, I apply the same concept to minutes. Right now I'm doing about 180 minutes per week of cardio vascular work, and my running pace is around 9 minutes per miles, so I'm getting the CV time equivalent of 20 miles a week, so my theoretical running max is around 9. Today I ran 8 and was quite comfortable until about 7.25. The last .75 was a bit of a struggle, and I suppose if I had to I could have gone on to somewhere between 8.5 and 9. It's extremely unlikely I could have done any more, since I felt much of my body starting to fall apart :crazy: .

Craig

[wtpclc]

My coach told me the man who said, "Whatever doesn't kill me will make me stronger" is dead :p He told me this after I quoated this to him.
That would explain last night's workout. :rolleyes:

85 degrees, humid. I made it 7 - 8 inteverals and walked home. I'm very bummed, but the heat was awful. I called it quits when I was supposedly running downhill and figured I could walk faster. It was so hot that we took a more shaded route. Unfortunately, that meant more hills. Saturday should be better as we will be starting early. I was looking ofr ward to only 4 mile at 3/1. Then my dh hit me up with some scary reality.

:scared1: :scared1: :earseek: :scared1: :sad:

Starting Monday, we are into the run the half schedule. That means, no walk!!!!! :scared1:

This will be our big test! It's gonna take a lot of :wizard: to see me through.

I'll come back in a bit to catch up with everyone. This just moves soo fast these days!

[keenercam]

Good morning, everyone! All of the advice to DH (Howard) is so interesting. It really is a science, isn't it? I am learning so much about exercise physiology from everyone here.

I am back to thinking that walking the 1/2 at the required pace is very do-able (I know, you are sick of hearing me whine, right?) I have these moments where I think about how far I have come in 5 months and realize we have another 6 months of training. Just have to look ahead to not sabotaging over the holidays, right?

Didn't get to exercise last night as it was Howard's birthday and we did a nice dinner at Carrabba's (though I am sick today, perhaps from too much garlic on the PEI mussels?). Feeling so sick, in fact, that I almost called in sick to work -- anyone who knows me would think the sky was falling if I did! ;)

No significant workouts planned for this weekend as I will be working, working, working! Am envious when I hear of daytime training runs especially during the week. Enjoy everyone!

[Minnie]

Morning everyone,

Last nights wog was great though it was HOT as I had to go out at 6pm instead of 8. Those couple hours make a tremendous heat difference.

Anyway I managed 3 miles in 37 min shaved another minute off :cool1: I know that I slow down the further I go so I need to work on endurance big time. The last mile was nearly a minute slower that the other two.

As of the weekend, today is my scheduled rest day. I was planning on doing a couple mile walk but if getting injured by not doing the rest days is a possibility then I will do the rest days.

Okay everyone cross your fingers and send the pixie dust my way. Saturday is my planned 4 mile wog. This is a 1 mile increase for me so I'm a little nervous. I plan on stashing a bottle of ice water at mile 2 and getting up really early in the am before it gets hot.

Have a great day everyone!

Minnie

[agotta]

Morning everyone!! Wow! I woke up this morning and my body just ached! I think I really pushed it this week, maybe to much for our "first" week back. I think today and tomorrow will be rest days. Definitely today, and tomorrow I have to go to work and then we have a little party planned with friends. I guess tomorrows "desser" will be maragaritas! Sunday I will start slow. I know I need so start going for longer, instead of just doing 1 mile.

CinderellaPug- I hope you join us!! There is a lot of great support on this board too!

keenercam- Keep up the good work. Don't worry, I am a whiner too :teeth: We love carrabas! Yummy! Now you just need to work it off :cheer2:

Minnie-Great job shaving that minute off! Good for you! Good luck with your wog tomorrow!! I know you will do great!

I was bad and had 3 pieces of cinnamon toast bread this morning and for some reason, I couldn't even taste it :confused3 I am not on low carb or anything so it wasn't too bad. I have a good lunch planned with fresh fruits and yogurt and even....gasp....Whole Wheat bread!! Good luck to everyone this weekend!

[Tiger Lily 03]

I have tried to get through the rest of everyone's posts, but I could only manage this and it has been sitting on my desktop all day.

Thank you everyone for your response to my question. You are all great!

Carrie, don’t be discouraged. You are doing GREAT! You are building a fantastic base and remember that by doing this you will be having a good amount of time to complete the event. You will do it! You are doing it!

Welcome CinderellaPug. Hope to be hearing more from you soon. Enjoy your trip. Say hi to our friends from your WISH Team!

If I do the October 1 Half in Lancaster, PA... I have three months plus a few days to :

A: Recover, B: Additionalm Training, C: Mentally Get Into the Distance,
D. Have my Confidence Boosted

Last Resort if it is murder...
E. Withdrawl from the WDW Half Marathon ::MickeyMoHOWARD! You won't need to withdraw. You have PLENTY of time to add in distance, especially since you are not entirely new to this. Don't be discouraged if PA kicks ya a bit because the distance is different than speeding through that 5k. I want to empahsize again though, you can do it! You will have sufficient time to complete the event.

My workout yesterday was amazing. I switched my Tuesday and Thurdsay because I got all backwards as usual. Anyway, I warmed up 5 min wogging, then I did 30/30secs r/w speed drills for 30 mins of drills then wogged the rest of my way. WHOA! :earseek: I shaved a minute off my 5k to a 38:15. I also can feel that today some. I have XT day, but may not get it today. Have a dinner with the ClevelandFit group tonight after work and I will probably be too tired for anything. It is quite hot/humid here and tomorrow is a 4 miler for me. Glad it is not th 7 I did last weekend.

[KeenHo]

Calcio, thank you for the sound advice. I think I am going to do it!

Lancaster is about a 45 min. - 1 hour trip from here, I am not sure if I'll be in any shape to drive back after it, perhaps Keenercam will come along to support me and drive us home.

I ran a 48:45 time in the 5 miler in May. I have been typically finishing my 5K's anywhere around 28 or 29 minutes on average.

I have been doing a lot of "getting in shape" to build up my fitness level, endurance and cardio vascular capacity. I have not been doing a lot of running other than an occasional 3.1 miles at the gym from time to time, or a 5K. I've done 3 5K's this year. I figure that since my training matrix is coming up shortly :hourglass , I will have plenty of running in my life, why do it a lot now?

I went to the YMCA this afternoon completing a 3.1 mile cross training workout, 25 minutes of weight training (upper body - shoulders and arms) and 5 miles on the upright bike (level 6).

More later, thanks to everyone for the advice and support! :wave2:

[gatorphipps]

Hey all! This will be my last post for a week. GOING TO WDW and HHI! :cool1:
RUNNING
Anyway! Bree and I ran 13 this morning (I got another mile on her. SHHHH :smooth: ). We did it in about 2:13. IT WAS HOT! :faint: We ran out of Propel, even though we stopped and filled up @ a gas station about half way! My foot started hurting and this is a big sign that I need new shoes. I get them about every 3 to 4 months.
MY SHOE STORY!
I was as giddy as a child getting a new toy! I LOVE getting new shoes. :love: So I go in and tell a new worker, @ our local running store, I love NB and that is what I alway wear. I also told her I have lost about 20 lbs. She asked me to show her my feet and walk for her. SHE TOLD ME I OVER PRONATE. :snooty: I am a pronator! I have been running for 5 years and now I pronate! She brought out some good NBs (for pronators like me) and they felt really good. Then she brought out some Nikes! I have never liked or run in Nike but these felt like HEAVEN. :cloud9: Did I mention they were shoes for PRONATORS, like me!? I got them (with 15% off :teeth: ) and I LOVE THEM! :love: :love: :love: For all you purple lovers....guess what color the swoosh is. I will try them out on the TM tonight for about a mile! Just b/c I love them so much!
Hey, I pronate and I am proud! Is pronating an issue for me?

Good luck to everyones training this weekend and week! C-ya when I get back!
Christa

[MelRhoads]

RESTING - UGHHHHH!
The resting thing is not going well. I was supposed to taper this week for the race this weekend. Yesterday, we did a short open water swim and 6 mile ride and I'm still sore. I think my friends and I were really pushing it out to see where we would stack up against one another on Sunday!

I hope I feel better tomorrow. I haven't done anything today and nothing is planned for tomorrow. The last race I ran, I did the same thing, we went on a big, hot hard mountain bike ride before doing a 21mile trail run on sat. Guess what I was tired.

I think I need a nap!

[xterratri]

Update- I've technically been in the Army for over a year and am a butter bar(2nd LT) but it hasn't really seemed like it to this week. A bunch of us future docs and a few future vets and dentists are in San Antonio for 6 weeks doing OBC(officer basic course). Since we are directly commissioned due to our status in professional school, this is the first Army experience for many of us. We found out when we got here last week that we would be going to the field this week rather than week 4 or 5 as we expected. Uh oh. But it actually was a great experience and most people seemed to feel that way. The high points: qualifying on the M9(9mm Beretta pistol), zeroing the M16(actually hit the target with every shot, some in the black, and even one exactly center), finishing some tasks within time limits that originally seemed impossible, and dismounted land navigation(using map and compass to find exact points in rough terrain, dismounted=on foot). During night land nav last night, at about 11 pm, myself and my two teammates sat on the side of the ridge, eating snacks that I had picked out of earlier MREs, and watching the moon rise. It was great. It was an ungraded exercise and we still found the goal number of points and were back in 1 hr under the 4 hour time limit in spite of our break. They delayed reveille from 0530 to 0630 this morning due the land nav exercise not ending to close to 0200. How generous. It still feels like bedtime now though. The two land nav courses yesterday(today?) were somewhere between 15-20 km of walking in BDUs carrying 20+ pounds of gear over rough terrrain. Does that count as cross training?
The low points of the FTX(field training exercise): it is HOT in TX especially wearing long sleeves, bloused trousers, and 20+ lbs of gear. The other low point is the realization that it is possible to get blisters under 'healing' blisters. My heels are a mess. Other people struggled too and I am proud that I complained less and generally just get going through it. Our class seems to be generally a good group of people.

Liz- t shirt vote: cotton is evil!!! Do you know what the predominant fabric in BDUs is? It just gets heavy and nasty when soaked with sweat. All my workout clothes are synthetics with wicking properties.

Mel:happy belated birthday!, Lisa: sounds like the kitten news is promising.

Howard: go for it!!! I plan to run the Portland(ME) Marathon on Oct 2 and am not at all concerned about spacing. I've done sprint distance triathlons back to back before(Sat-Sun) and did a half ironman(run=half marathon) three weeks before my second ironman(run=marathon) and an off road triathlon the week before. The off road triathlon two weeks after is tougher though as the residual fatigue is there and it caught up to me about half way through the run when my chief rival passed me for the lead in our age group. Of course, that may just be because I'm not a good runner relatively speaking.

I sure I'm missing people but I hope you all had a good week too. Time to go see about doing something about dinner.

[Calcio]

Lynne

Thanks for the news. I must admit the chance to get qualified with an M-16 is quite an enticement to this 48 year old male. We had the great fortune to live in Austin for 7 years in the 1980's so I understand the heat you are facing, quite different from Portland, ME, 120 mile NE of where I'm sitting right now. I remember the sun coming up in June and the furnace coming on immediately. In that previous life was was running a lot, and needed to be on the town lake path in Austin by 5:30 a.m. to finish before it got too hot to run.

And yes, your field training with gear does count as cross training. You're working your CV system and building leg strength at the same time. It's just not as easy as being out carrying only your own weight, wearing cool max.

Howard

Your times are terribly close to those I'm running right now. I plan to complete the half around 2 hours, so you are absolutely capable of the same type of result. I wouldn't be too aggressive for time in October, but after one success you might consider throwing caution to the wind at WDW and really airing it out.

Christa

Good for you finding out about your over-pronation. Most of us do over-pronate, some dangerously. Anything that will support your foot strike will make your running that much easier.

Cam

Whining is okay, especially when it motivates you to get out there. I'm looking forward to reading about your success on January 7, 2006. The running, wogging, biking, and cross training all build your CV system. Remember the race itself is a pure joy, because the hard part is the training before. You do the work and the 13.1 miles are the fun part.

Me, legs still feeling wifty from yesterday's 8. I need to take it easy for a few days to let them recover from the effort. Someday I'll learn to actually run my target time, instead of pushing it because it feels good.

Cheers to all

Craig

[disneybelle]

Just stopping in before we leave for vacation. I haven't had time to read up on everyone's activities. Summer sure is a busy time!

DH and I are doing a 7 mile race tomorrow, a first race experience for us both.

I hooked up with a local running store sponsoring their first ever training group. It was really fun. We're working up to the Philadelphia Distance Run in September.

I'll check in when I get back.

Darcey

[Minnie]

Hi everyone,

I got my 1st 4mile run finished this morning :cool1: My time was 53 minutes so 13.25 per mile pace. I know I slipped back in pace but just completing the distance was my goal today not the time. Though I am thrilled to see that I am above the sweeper pace of 16 min per mile :Pinkbounc

I went out really early to beat the heat and have some shopping planned this afternoon. I did go to Target yesterday and bought a coolmax tank and bike shorts (BTW - They are having a coolmax stuff sale through Today only).

I wore my cotton shorts over the top as I just can't imagine running in those yet. I'm planning on trying to find some cool max shorts to go over the top of those bike shorts.

Question - Do you purchase cool max undies too or just wear cotton ones? Also if you wear the bike shorts how do you avoid a line?? :blush:

Thanks everyone!!!!

[chimera]

I decided to 'join' Minnie on her 4 miler today. My first time at that distance. I just walked it...1:07:05, about 16:46 pace according to Garmin. I'm getting there :cool1: Hope to be sub 16 soon!

CinderellaPug...Welcome :wave: Come on in...we're lots of fun! :rotfl:
And what color are your shoes? :goodvibes

Darcey and Christa...have a great time on your respective vacations! Wish we were there ;) Darcey...good luck on your race :cheer2:

Craig...'wifty'? I think we may need a Calcio dictionary to go with our Helen's English dictionary. Do the black and silver shorts make your legs wifty? ;)

Helen...Merry Christmas!! Eat some pie for me, though I'm not really sure what mincemeat is!

Lynne...definitely bonus cross-training points for you! You'll be a seriously big dog when you get back! So do we have to call you "Sir" now? ;)

MelR...happy belated birthday!! :bday: Good luck on your race! :cheer2: We'll be looking forward to that race report!

Christa...congrats on joining the purple shoe club! Does that make us something like the Red Hat Ladies :teeth: My other shoes are NB 753 (sounds like a bumper sticker ;) )

Lily...great 5K time! :cheer2:

Amanda...don't push too hard! Keep your knee happy! :love:

Howard...will be cool to have you on the team :cheer2:

Cam...you're not whining...just expressing concerns many of us have. I alternate between being totally psyched about the race to being totally terrified. :scared1: Today was an "I think I can do it in a 14 mintue pace" day.

Carrie...wow, you're doing great on your training! :Pinkbounc PD :wizard: as you start your "all run all the time" schedule!

Sorry to cut it short, but off to Lowe's to buy tile for our new backsplash!

[keenercam]

Hi, everyone! Sounds like we are all dealing with the heat and humidity and how that all factors into our training.

Craig - not sure I ever got to thank you for the review of Jimmy's concert -- so glad you all had a great time, including the youngsters! Bought DH the Live in Hawaii CD for his birthday -- it is great! "One Particular Harbor" is one of my absolute favorites. I also love "Tin Cup Chalice" -- it really reminds me of being in Key West. And "Southern Cross" is just beautiful. I am really looking forward to the concert -- 2 months from today! Let's hope Jimmy is not exhausted by then! :)

Lynne -- I am blown away to hear about what you are going through and how hard you are working. I know it sounds so sappy, but I think you are amazing. I hope you are feeling as proud as you should of what you are doing for your country. I give your family credit, too. I am not sure I could handle my daughter going through what you are going through.

Lily -- Your time is so impressive! Congratulations! You must be so excited!

Carrie -- that reality really is hair-raising! Are you serious? Is Monday the start of your official training to run the 1/2? I think my schedule to walk the 1/2 starts in October or something like that -- it seems so far off. You must be so excited!!!! Or are you anxious?

Minnie -- I hope you got your 4 mile wog in today before it got too hot and that it went well!

Christa -- I am so happy to hear that you have been "diagnosed" with what I understand to be a very common and manageable condition. :) I am SURE, based on what all of my shoes look like, that I walk on the outside of my heels, but I don't remember whether the running shoe guy mentioned that. I think I am actually going to take my loafers with me when I go to get a new pair of walking/running shoes to see if we should be considering that when I get new shoes, though my current sneakers seem fine. I am not having running pain or anything -- then again, I haven't really put them to the test yet.

I have really been working on my stride. Have read some of the walking websites and have really taken to heart the advice I've gotten here. The improvements are that I am hitting with my heel first with the front of my foot up, then rolling forward and pushing off. I am also keeping my elbows at a 90 degree angle -- or trying to. I think I look goofy. Maybe at some point, I will actually look like an athlete. And I have definitely been concentrating on keeping my heels and toes parallel to an imaginary line running between my feet. I had developed a terrible habit of walking and running with my heels in and my toes wayyy out. It is being modified and hopefully, will become habit to walk or jog with my feet in the right position.

I was so incredibly sick yesterday that I thought I'd have to write off any kind of exercise this weekend. Left work early last night and was in bed by 6:30, got up around 10 for cereal, then back to bed. [scale was down 3## this morning -- heck of a way to manage that, and not real, but still so very nice to see myself closing in on 50# loss]

Howard was getting up early this morning to run a 5K, so I dragged myself out of bed for a very short fountain walk. Did 1.7 in 26:15 (last weekend with Howard motivating me with his long stride it was 27:24, so a bit of an improvement -- 15:26 pace, I think.) Still have a fever and am sick to my stomach, but I am at work. I don't think I'll make it to the gym today, but hope to get there tomorrow. Want to do a 5K on the elliptical and get a base time for that.

Happy training, everyone! Stay hydrated!

[plutosmyfav]

Hi All :wave:

I got in a 14 miler this morning before the heat (weather.com says it's gonna reach 103 deg F today :earseek: ). Never in my entire life would I have believed there'd come a day that I set my alarm to 5AM on a Saturday to go running! But it was great getting out in the cool of the morning (except for the stupid bugs that kept getting caught in my air currents). The run was great, but my glutes and hamstrings were knotting up. I usually do my long run on Sunday, after resting Saturday. Friday I did a serious lower body weight session (leg press, squats, lunges, glute isolator, sled, etc). I think that's what got me. But my time is better than I thought. I finally got a watch with a chronograph. I averaged 9:48 on the first 9 miles and then my total average pace was 10:08. Which leads me to believe maybe I should have popped that GOO packet I brought along. I never seem to feel like I need it so I never use it. Next time I'll take it at mile 9 and see if it helps my pace.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the tips on Cool Max :goodvibes I went to Sports Authority yesterday and bought some tops and shorts on clearance. What a difference! I still was sweating like a pig but I didn't look like I was sweating like a pig and I didn't have that yucky clingy shirt thing going on :earboy2:

Since this long run came on Saturday instead of the start of next week (Sunday) I got in 48 miles this week!!! That's a personal record for me :cheer2:

Stay cool everyone :sunny:

Sunny

[Calcio]

Minnie

You're not ahead of the sweepers, you are WAY ahead of the sweepers. When you hit mile 5 the sweeps will be at mile 4. Carry that pace for 13.1 and you're across the finish sub-3.

My experience with cotton undies at the 2004 half was quite painful, especially in the shower with the soap and water hitting the spots. I'd strongly recommend cool max or underamour undies, otherwise the perspiration is held next to your skin and the result won't be fun.

Geez Sunny, 14 today in the Boston area? Great work, glad you were out and back before the furnace came on.

Keep it going Cam, that 16 minute pace is absolutely doably on January 7. Remember you'll have lots of companions with you working to hold the same pace.

Ha Ha Mel. When I'm talking soccer or running, my wife tells me "I know you are speaking English, but I have no idea what you just said." Today I was at the fitness center for some easy biking and light lifting, and the legs feel quite a bit better, less wifty :crazy: .

Craig

[KeenHo]

As Cam, my DW, said I was up early and listened to the starters pistol at 9 AM this morning for a local 5K, the Chichester (PA) Business Owners Association 5K Run/Walk benefitting the American Cancer Society.

I finished the first mile in 8:24 and was at mile 2 at close to 19:48. I finished with a overall time of 29:09. The course had a lot of undulating hills and it was HOT and Humid !! I slowed down to a quick pace for some water at 1.5 miles and quickly got back up to my normal pace. I am not sure how many runners/walkers were signed up but I came in 51st out of approximately 125 participants.

Overall it was a great showing, I could have done better if I had fueled up prior to the race. I went with the tank on empty, not smart, but that is how I usually go. I won't be foolish enough to do that on longer distances.

Happy running/walking/exercising/training everyone!

Howard
::MickeyMo

[Tiger Lily 03]

Howard, great time in your event today!

Cam, sorry about your being ill. Wow! to you for going out and doing some trekking and then going to work. Hope you get some time to recouperate. Good for you working on your stride. I try, but I am not sure if I am doing it correctly still.

Sunny, I love your statement about rising early on the weekend. We were all just talking of it this morning when we were waiting for the rest of our crew to assemble. Amazing isn't it? Cool max rules!

Mel, great pace you are working on there. You are doing great. It will come.

Minnie, you know, I have been using nylon style undies when I am stepping out. I think though I am going to look at Craig's advice for the undies. My DS thinks they are fantastic. I made sure I got him fitted, but forgot me.

Darcey, have a great race and a fantastic vaca! I look forward to hearing about all of it.

Lynne, I too want to join the group here in saying how proud it feels to know you. You rock!

MelR, hope your race is fantastic. You are sure putting in some massive training. Please be careful to not overtrain and injure. I am sure by now you know your routine and what works. It just is amazing to me for sure.

Christa, have a great vaca. You know Bree is going to out train you while you are gone. (tee hee) Enjoy you new shoes too, over pronate? After all this time? Go figure. Glad you found out and hope the new shoes help. So you belong to the purple club too now?

Craign, hope your wifty-ness is better today.

I managed 6 miles this a.m. with the group. I was only going to do my scheduled 4 but it did feel so good I continued onward with them. I am actually even not last. I am amazed at me. I pressed up for my last mile to see how much I could get to. I must say I think I know the feeling of "wifty" legs after that. It was great to be finished. I have been resting since. Will get to work later this evening. I needed recovery time.

Keep on keepin' on everyone.

Hey you MIA's come on in. It's not so bad here. Don't feel overwhelmed. There is still time.

[Gymbomom]

Just wanted to say I love reading everyones stories!
Ya'll are doing AWESOME!! :cool1:

I did a two miler today really easy, could have done more, but I ran into some garage sales. :blush:
Got a little side tracked. :)

I AM going to do four tomorrow morning.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Corey

[skfulkers]

Hey everybody! Glad to see everyone's moving along so well. I haven't had a chance to keep up with everyone recently--it's been sort of a busy week between the new puppy (which is going great, by the way) and spending the second half of the week on a business trip to Atlanta.
Howard--congrats on your 5k time. Sounds like you do a decent amount of cross-training. Have you ever tried doing triathlons? I've done a couple recently, nothing serious or olympic-qualifiying, etc, but just smaller ones that I set a goal to finish and nothing more. Anyway, just thought I'd see if you've ever tried them. They're a lot more fun than I thought they'd be.
Craig--thank you, thank you, thank you for the advice about orthotics/inserts! I went down to our local New Balance store and told them about my recurring shin splint problem, so they watched me walk and jog and paid close attention to my form. They recommended some motion control inserts, and since I've put them in, I have had absolutely no pain in my lower legs. I don't know why I didn't find these things a year ago. Thank you again so much for the advice!
I did 4 miles this morning--should have waited till this evening, because it was 91 degrees and humid when I went out (very ideal weather for distance running, right?? :) ). I finished in 32:07, which was fine with me due to the humidity. I keep wanting to go out and push myself harder and go for the longer distances (I was doing 7 or 8 miles for my long runs a month ago), but like I said, I've been nursing this shin splint thing for about 3 weeks now and I don't want to re-injure myself.
I'll try to actually stay up with the thread this week since my "crazy busy" week is over now. Have a great weekend, everyone. Happy training!

Steve

[TXBelle]

Lynne- Thank you so much for your service to our country. Great job in training!

Today I did 3 miles in intervals of walk 3/run 2. It was nice to have a break from the treadmill and get out in the fresh air. Of course it was already very hot and humid even at 6 am. The 2 minutes of running was hard for me, but I did it. I completed 9 intervals, plus warm-up and cool down. Tomorrow is a rest day for me. Then back to the gym on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone!

Heather

[Angie_Ohio]

I am running my first 1/2 tomorrow. I'm a little worried about the heat. (supposed to be in the 90's and humid in Ohio) :confused3 Iwas really excited after last weeks 12 mile run. I felt great but the weather was cool!
What do you guys eat the day before a race or long run? I know about the carbs two days ahead but are there foods to avoid the day before?
Angie_OH

[MelRhoads]

Angie-I'm doing my first tri tomorrow, and I just got back from pizza hut. I think breadsticks and pan pizza are now off my list of pre race foods (oops) Chewable pepcid seems to be a good choice.

Before my last big run (21mi trail) I had burger, fries, chocolate shake, and a chocolate fried pie! Oh, yeah, and water. You've got to hydrate!

BLAAAHHH! I feel BLOATED. I was thinking that all of that fat might help me float better on the swim!

Good luck with your half!

[chimera]

Hi everyone!

Come join us for a new week!

Week of June 26 - 2006 Marathon Info/Training Thread (http://disboards.com/showthread.php?p=8995295#post8995295)