Recent trading of Sedesma Pins?

[miste76]

Our trip is less than 30 days away and I wanted to wait until now to stock up on any sedesma pins just incase the rules changed again...
Has anyone had any sedesma experiences in May or June of 2005? Thanks for any info!!!

[Catrin]

I saw very few on lanyards..... most of these were at the MK.

Catrin

[Lori-n-NY]

Why would you want to stock up on Sedesma pins? Why not purchase some of the better pins. I know I saw some sedesma pins this past weekend and my daughter was not very happy when the mystery pin on a lanyard was a sedesma pin. She instantly trading it back to the CM. She is always ok with the mystery pins she gets but not the sedesma pins. They really do look cheaper in size and quality. You can grab a good deal on ebay for about $3 a pin when you purchase them in quanitity.
I understand that they say Disney on the back, but many times people have reported problems trading them so I would not take the chance. It sounds like you are aware that things change daily and depending on where you are and who you deal with.

If you have the time search ebay and look for a "lot" of pins, that way you get a hndful of pins for one shipping cost.


Just my thoughts,
Lori

[miste76]

Thank you for the info...

I have quite a few of the 'regular' pins... and I pay about $2.00 a piece for them by finding the right lots on ebay... however, I've noticed that the sedesma pins are cheaper. If I can trade sedesma pins for the pins that I want, then that's what I'd rather do to save a little money.

[lomillerin]

What do you mean by the mystery pin?

[meandtheguys2]

A mystery pin is pinned backwards to the CM's lanyard, so that you don't know what you are trading for.

[IStoleMyKidsPins]

Thank you for the info...

I have quite a few of the 'regular' pins... and I pay about $2.00 a piece for them by finding the right lots on ebay... however, I've noticed that the sedesma pins are cheaper. If I can trade sedesma pins for the pins that I want, then that's what I'd rather do to save a little money.



Miste76, do you collect Sedesma pins for your personal collection? Do you ever trade for them? If not, why would you think anyone else would? Because that's what you're doing by putting Sedesma pins out there. More Sedesma pins means less quality, better pins. IMO, Sedesma pins are fine for younger kids who just like the character. But for the avid pin collector, they are basically useless.

[hockey mom]

My kids can tell a Sedesma pin just by looking at it now. We don't bring them as traders because we do not want to recieve them as traders.

[meandtheguys2]

My kids can tell a Sedesma pin just by looking at it now. We don't bring them as traders because we do not want to recieve them as traders.

:rotfl: My DS5 brought home the ugliest Hyena from our last trip as well as 3 Bambis! They Hyena has, of course, made it back into the traders, but he loves those wretched little dears! I even bought him a LE big Bambi pin...but no dice. Can't wait until he outgrows them! We, too, only buy what we would want to get.

[miste76]

I have occasionally picked a sedesma pin to trade with a CM lanyard without realizing it was sedesma until I looked at the back. If I like the pin, I don't care who made it... That said, I do like to look for CM lanyard pins and I also like to collect a few specific characters.

I'm very confused by all the posts that I've read on here that are so negative about the sedesma pins. I have always thought that you didn't have to trade with a CM if you didn't want to... so if they have a pin that doesn't look nice to you, then you don't have to take it - trade for a different pin!!!

[lomillerin]

How can you tell which are cast member lanyard pins?

[meandtheguys2]

The newest CM pins have a little Mickey Head on them. I also would just ask, because I was curious when I was talking with the CM.

[doombuggy]

I don't really care for these pins, personally, but I have several of them on my cast lanyard that were traded to me. A 20-something lady traded me an April Fools Day pin of a Sedesma nemo pin. Within an hour, someone else traded me for it b/c she really liked Nemo. She was 20-something too. So, I guess it's personal choice.

:earsboy:

[rapriebe]

Hey Doombuggy,
I always wondered how often they let the CM's exchange the pins on their lanyards. Daily?? Weekly??

There was a CM on the boat from FW to MK one morning and he was upset because I wanted to trade a pin with him. He said that he had just refreshed his lanyard and he had to keep the junk pins that he had previously for two weeks. He said nobody wanted to trade for any of the pins that he had on his lanyard and now that he had different pins, he wanted to hold on to them for awhile. Now I don't trade Sedesma, ProPins or European pins, so I was not giving him junk pins. I know he wasn't suppose to refuse a trade and I stayed with him until he traded 'cause he had a Chip 'n Dale I wanted. But in order to finish the trade, I had to let him pick which pin of mine that he wanted. It didn't matter to me because all the pins on my lanyard were for trading anyway.

So I was just curious, how often do they let you refresh your lanyards?
Becky

[NJOYURLIFE]

Hey Doombuggy,
I always wondered how often they let the CM's exchange the pins on their lanyards. Daily?? Weekly??

There was a CM on the boat from FW to MK one morning and he was upset because I wanted to trade a pin with him. He said that he had just refreshed his lanyard and he had to keep the junk pins that he had previously for two weeks. He said nobody wanted to trade for any of the pins that he had on his lanyard and now that he had different pins, he wanted to hold on to them for awhile. Now I don't trade Sedesma, ProPins or European pins, so I was not giving him junk pins. I know he wasn't suppose to refuse a trade and I stayed with him until he traded 'cause he had a Chip 'n Dale I wanted. But in order to finish the trade, I had to let him pick which pin of mine that he wanted. It didn't matter to me because all the pins on my lanyard were for trading anyway.

So I was just curious, how often do they let you refresh your lanyards?
Becky

I'd be curious too on how often they get to 'refresh" thier pins. I'd also be furious if they gave one of my children a hard time with trading any pin.

Regarding the Sedesma pins, Disney seems to go back and forth on this, so I would really try to stay away from them if possible. Why take the chance on getting stuck with them plus what kind of money savings would that be if you did get stuck with them.

During our stay this past June, we also saw alot of the 2000 pins which I see alot of on ebay, so beware of those, because they were on almost every lanyard we saw. They stuck out to me because I remembered seeing them on ebay and I still see huge lots of them on ebay. I'd hate to see somebody get stuck with alot of those. As least with the Sedesma they would be different characters, but who needs alot of year 2000 pins.

[HayGan]

During our stay this past June, we also saw alot of the 2000 pins which I see alot of on ebay, so beware of those, because they were on almost every lanyard we saw. They stuck out to me because I remembered seeing them on ebay and I still see huge lots of them on ebay. I'd hate to see somebody get stuck with alot of those. As least with the Sedesma they would be different characters, but who needs alot of year 2000 pins.

I totally agree!!! I'm so tired of seeing those 2000 pins! Now it seems like there is at least one of those in almost every larger lot :sad2:

[doombuggy]

Refresh my lanyard??? I usually only get new pins if I end up short. For example, recently I had someone trade me a pin that I thought was from Tarzan. It turns out it was not a Disney pin at all. So my lanyard is now at 11 pins instead of 12. A couple of months ago, another cm traded someone for a monorail pin, only this one has a girls name on it. We are not supposed to trade for pins with someone's name onit, but she apparently did not realize that. I traded a pin on my CM lanyard for this particular pin, since it was my name anyway.

If the CM on the boat that another poster spoke to was smart (since he seems to want to keep some decent pins on his lanyard), we would put some of the old pins on with some of the new ones. I certainly don't mind trading, and look at the lanyard as "not mine" because my lanyards are at home. If anyone trades w/me, they can give me whatever pin they want in return, as long as I don't already have it on my lanyard. My only things is kindly don't touch me. I don't care for some strangers touching my chest. :)

[Luv2Roam]

They were all over the MK lanyards just last night. Someone must have comein with a bag of them.

[Foxfiregrrl]

I'm new to the pins and I'm just wondering...how will I be able to tell if a pin is Sedesma when I am looking at it on Ebay? Will it look any different or should I only buy pins if they show the back? I would like to start trading on our trip in September. :flower:

[IStoleMyKidsPins]

I'm new to the pins and I'm just wondering...how will I be able to tell if a pin is Sedesma when I am looking at it on Ebay? Will it look any different or should I only buy pins if they show the back? I would like to start trading on our trip in September. :flower:

The Sedesma pins are plastic. If you're not sure, simply ask the seller. Alot of sellers will state explicitly that their pins are not Sedesma. But just ask.

[IStoleMyKidsPins]

I just got back from DW & those 2000 pins are EVERYWHERE. I wish I was exaggerating. Just about every single CM had 1, if not 2, of these 2000 pins on their lanyard. I even saw one CM at a shop with one of the cork boards filled with the 2000 pins. I guess they were trying to get some of them out of circulation. I'm just real glad I didn't buy any of these when I was thinking about it a few months back.

[meandtheguys2]

I just got back from DW & those 2000 pins are EVERYWHERE. I wish I was exaggerating. Just about every single CM had 1, if not 2, of these 2000 pins on their lanyard. I even saw one CM at a shop with one of the cork boards filled with the 2000 pins. I guess they were trying to get some of them out of circulation. I'm just real glad I didn't buy any of these when I was thinking about it a few months back.

Well, that is just great! My mom,in her one and only ebay purchase ever, bought my kids 100 of those. We have provided pins for her and everyone else, and she wanted to do something nice for us! I suspect that I will have them forever! :rolleyes:

[Michael623]

Sedesma pins are metal not plastic. They are just an inferior metal and thinner than more traditional pins. I agree they seem cheap and the artwork is sometimes lacking but according to the rules they are still fully tradeable. I have been refused a trade from a CM when I tried to trade a Sedesma but I didn't push it. In the parks you see hundreds of CMs with lanyards a day and I'm sure you'll find someone to trade. That being said, I haven't intentionally bought any Sedesma pins in a couple of years.

[dodukes]

Actually, yes they are a metal called Zamack and they are fully tradeable in my two trips to trade I have only been rejected twice, one per trip. If theres a pin u really want and u only have the sedesma, push it and ask for a manager cuz according to the rules, the pins are fully tradeable. That being said, I dont think youll have a problem trading off your 100 pins that you got. Just ask everyone you see and beofre you know it, they are gone.

[upon-a-star]

What's wrong with 2000 pins? :confused3

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

What's wrong with 2000 pins?

Nothing except that they are as common as a stormtrooper at a Star Wars convention. The rules state that a CM can not trade for a pin they already have on their lanyard. Many CMs have those pins (pinpics.com #s 1 and 2) on their lanyards, so someone with multiples of them to trade with CMs will have difficulty.

[NJBlackBerry]

We've been here for a little over 2 days, and got rid of around 30 2000 pins. Many (most) CMs had a 2000 pin on their lanyards, but many did not. They are extremely common and you may have some difficulty. We did not. We got rid of a ton today at AK.

[rapriebe]

Thanks NJBlackBerry for that info. We are going next month and I have a bunch of them to get rid of. Glad to know that there's still hope for trading them away. :cool1: :cool1:

[lovethattink]

We spent Labor Day Weekend at WDW. I'd say easily 90% of lanyards had the 2000 pin on it. Last Thursday we saw an old man at AK with a 1 gallon zip lock bag filled with 2000 pins. Even the outlet store CM's had the 2000 pin on their lanyard. It use to be the Disney Store pins were everywhere, but they no longer are. Now it's the 2000 pin.

[deadhedjen]

I have a question regarding pin trading. I've been lurking around ebay and I've noticed that some are selling new pins on the original cardboard ("official" pins) for less than I know they sell for in the parks. They're not making any money of the pins if they sell them that way. Are they buying them on clearance or something? One poster mentioned the outlet. Is that where you can get cheaper pins? Just curious, b/c we're going next summer with 7 kids in tow...and you know they'll want to trade pins, lol. I'd love to get some on the cheap for them to have as trades.
TIA!
Jennifer. :flower:

[lovethattink]

I have a question regarding pin trading. I've been lurking around ebay and I've noticed that some are selling new pins on the original cardboard ("official" pins) for less than I know they sell for in the parks. They're not making any money of the pins if they sell them that way. Are they buying them on clearance or something? One poster mentioned the outlet. Is that where you can get cheaper pins? Just curious, b/c we're going next summer with 7 kids in tow...and you know they'll want to trade pins, lol. I'd love to get some on the cheap for them to have as trades.
TIA!
Jennifer. :flower:

Sometimes the pins are sold at a discount at the outlets. Occasionally Disney Direct will have sales on the Disney Auction pins. Sometimes the pins are purchased by CM at a discount (sometimes as low as $1/pin) and sold by them. They are not suppose to do this and it's my understanding that they could lose their job for doing this.

[deadhedjen]

Thanks for the info, now I just have to ask...where is this outlet, lol. I'll be doing a grocery store run our first day at Disney and I would love to be able to swing in the outlet center to pick up some pins if they could be purchased at a discount.
TIA!
Jennifer. :sunny:

[SWVA BGSU Fan]

I hope you have better luck at the outlets than we had. We were there the first week of August and went to Character Premier and Character Warehouse at the old Belz mall at the end of International Drive. The pins there were the same price as they were in the parks. Maybe that was because we were there during peak season. Good luck and have a great trip!

[lovethattink]

We went to the one outlet store at Buena vista Outlets on Vineland road last Sunday. They did not have ANY pins at a discount. In July, we got auction pins for $5.99 and rack pins for $3.99.

[jwann]

My kids can tell a Sedesma pin just by looking at it now. We don't bring them as traders because we do not want to recieve them as traders.

DITTO!

IMO, How LAME to bring a huge bag of the same cheap pins to spread like a plague through the parks.

Sorry for the flame.

[Vickie46]

do al ot of people trade propins... I am brand new and trying to figure all this out.. that I read.. I have a little princess that would love to get in on this... we can't afford a bunch for her.. I am thinking like 3-5 when we get there at the most.. I would love to hear the details.

Thanks.

sch17@bellsouth.net

[deadhedjen]

do al ot of people trade propins... I am brand new and trying to figure all this out.. that I read.. I have a little princess that would love to get in on this... we can't afford a bunch for her.. I am thinking like 3-5 when we get there at the most.. I would love to hear the details.

Thanks.

sch17@bellsouth.net

I'd like to know about propins too. I checked out the site, and quite honestly I think the pins don't look all that great. JMHO. Do people really trade with these??

Jennifer :cheer2:

[Vickie46]

I agree. I would like to know this too.

[Vickie46]

I would like to know this too.

[Kitty-chan]

Another comment about the dreaded 2000 pins . . .

I bought 30 of them on ebay, thinking they were good as traders, not having any clue about the fact that they are everywhere! Since buying them, I've spent 2 days at DL and 2 days at DLRP, and I've still got 10 or 12 left, despite trading every single time I could (ie, trade a 2000 pin for [B]anything else[.B] on the rare occasion I spot a CM lanyard without one). I was especially amused/surprised/irritated to see them on almost every CM lanyard in Paris, for crying out loud! I guess I was hoping the epidemic was only on our side of the Atlantic.

Maybe I'll try to hit the Disney Store on 5th Avenue in NYC sometime soon, seeing as its one of the few Disney Stores with pin trading; maybe the plague hasn't got there yet, and I can help spread it by getting rid of a few more of these darn things? (I'm being silly, and I have of course learned my lesson -- no need to flame me!)

As for the Sedesma pins . . . DS9 has traded for a few, and he loves them because he loves the character on them. I don't care for them because I don't like the quality. But hey, to each his own!

[Mike Bartenhagen]

Propins are official Disney pins. They have paid a fee to Disney in order to manufacture the pins and I am sure that Disney has deposited the check so you should certainly not feel bad about buying and trading these pins.

Mike

[Swamp_Fox]

I have just returned from WDW I was there from 9/8 - 9/12. I was at all four parks including Downtown disney plus I attended Happiest pin celebration on earth and I'm happy to report Sedesma pin were almost non-extant on CM lanyards, however here's the bad news the blight that is the 2000 ribbon dancer pin has infested most if not all CM lanyards. There is silver lining in this dark cloud of 2000 pins I was told by several CM's that they purposely put on 2000 pins to prevent themselves from getting more and in the event that one gets traded away they have spares of them to put on.

At the pin event there were lots of people with ziplock baggies full of 2000 pins to put on the large pin boards. I asked one of the Managers what was done with the 2000 ribbon dancer pins and this is what I was told as the boards were refreshed the 2000 pins would be taken off and put aside for disposal :cheer2: :cool1: . I can only hope in the next few months they will be gone.

Swamp_Fox

[NJBlackBerry]

It only seemed like every time I got a red apple, clam or golden purse I pulled out a 2000 pin. It was really annoying. And we did not bring one with us to HPCOE. I must have pulled 10 out of the mystery pin trading!

[deadhedjen]

You know, I kind of have to LOL when I hear all this talk about the 2000 pin, b/c I was looking at the infamous "lot of 100 year 2000 pins" on eBay and my DS says....."Ooooh mommy, those pins are soooo nice. Are you buying them?" I had to explain to him that I am quite certain he will find SOMEONE at the parks to trade with for this pin. I told him how flooded the CM's are with these pins. ROTFLMBO because now he can't wait to go and trade for one.

Jennifer. :flower:

[BONITATIME]

Kids !!
What can you do with them, I really think they are pretty pins it is just they are everywhere.

Nikki

[annie1995]

How can you tell the difference between the "real pins" and the sedesma?

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

How can you tell the difference between the "real pins" and the sedesma?
Sedesma pins will say (C) Disney / Sedesma S.A. on the back. Some people would consider Sedesma pins "real pins" since they are licensed by Disney. However, what makes the Sedesma pins undesirable are their quality and how common they are.

Sedesma pins are made of a lower quality metal than the pins found in the parks. The metal is usually black and and has a softer feel than pins produced today. (Note: Some pins from DL a few years ago were produced with the metal black, but these are of the same quality as the park pins of recent years.)

Also, if you look at this image of pinpics #1887 --
http://www.pinpics.com/img/p37/pin1887
-- see how the face doesn't appear flush, but instead recessed? This is common among the Sedesma pins.

Also, the Sedesma pins are commonly used as cheap traders. They got a bad rap years ago when some traders would hit the parks early in the morning with dozens of these pins that they bought off eBay for around $1 to $2 a pin, and trade them onto CM lanyards. That would leave slim pickings for any traders that came behind them. The rules have changed some, and I don't think it's as bad as it once was. I could be wrong on that, though.