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lovin'Mickey
05-03-2005, 08:58 AM
How much should I leave the maid? I am going to make enevolopes up and have no idea $1,$2,$3 per day???

MAGICinMYHEART
05-03-2005, 09:00 AM
I leave $5.00 a day.

kandeebunny
05-03-2005, 09:02 AM
I do $1 per person per day and leave it daily

lovin'Mickey
05-03-2005, 09:11 AM
so we are a family of 5 so you would leave $5 per day? thanks!!

Ilovestitch
05-03-2005, 10:34 AM
We leave $4 to $5 each day. I would leave less or none if they did a horrible job, but luckily that's never happened.

MamaQuack
05-03-2005, 03:22 PM
There are just the two of us but we leave $5 a day and maybe more if we return to a room filled with towel animals which actually happend during our last stay at the YC - animals everywhere - my 'cool' ds was so overwhelmed!!!

Meezers
05-03-2005, 03:38 PM
This may sound strange....I make my own bed...wipe down the sink area...hang towels for more than one use.

Am I still expected to tip mousekeeping? They really don't have to do anything in my room and I NEVER get any animals!

Mom2Ashli
05-03-2005, 03:40 PM
We normally leave $1 per person per day. We are rather neat and don't have a big mess to clean up.

twinklebug
05-03-2005, 03:53 PM
This may sound strange....I make my own bed...wipe down the sink area...hang towels for more than one use.

Am I still expected to tip mousekeeping? They really don't have to do anything in my room and I NEVER get any animals!

We do the same... it sounds like you should just hang the do not disturb sign on your door like we do. Tip only when you want new towels/trash emptied or the floor vacumed.

Editing to add that even if we don't use mousekeeping during our stay I leave $5-10 when we leave for the mousekeeper who has to re-do the room for the next family.

DanaHesson
05-03-2005, 04:00 PM
I think alot of people who have worked in a service type industry do these things. But I still expect my bathroom to be cleaned properly, etc....

band_man
05-03-2005, 04:10 PM
Ok, I know in advance I am going to get blown out of the water, but here it goes:

Is daily maid service included or not? The reason I ask is that I expect my room to be cleaned daily, my towels to be replaced, etc. Am I supposed to tip someone to be sure that I get fresh towels????

Now, someone provides service above and beyond , I will tip and tip generously, but for fresh towels, a clean room, I just can't do it.

I am as empathetic as the next person when it comes to those who are working hard for a living - But I would rather Disney charge $5 more per night for the room and pay the mousekeepers better than to tip for what is supposed to be provided as part of my stay.

Ok, lay it on....... :smooth:

Pooh1219
05-03-2005, 04:18 PM
Ok, I know in advance I am going to get blown out of the water, but here it goes:

Is daily maid service included or not? The reason I ask is that I expect my room to be cleaned daily, my towels to be replaced, etc. Am I supposed to tip someone to be sure that I get fresh towels????

Now, someone provides service above and beyond , I will tip and tip generously, but for fresh towels, a clean room, I just can't do it.

I am as empathetic as the next person when it comes to those who are working hard for a living - But I would rather Disney charge $5 more per night for the room and pay the mousekeepers better than to tip for what is supposed to be provided as part of my stay.

Ok, lay it on....... :smooth:

I'm not going to blow you out of the water just because your opinion about tipping for maid service differs from mine. However, I do disagree with you.

The fact is, Disney doesn't and is never going to charge $5 more per night to be directed as tips for mousekeeping. They may charge $5 more per night, but you can bet it's going to go into the Disney coffers and not to the maids. Some forms of tipping, such as maid service, have become part of our culture. Of course, you are expected to have a clean room with fresh towels, just as you are expected to have your dinner served to you by your waiter, your luggage brought into the hotel or up to your room, your hair cut by your barber, etc., and all of these people expect a tip. I think mousekeeping does an excellent job, and as long as I can afford to travel to Walt Disney World, I feel that the least I can do is leave a few bucks each day to the person who makes my room neat and clean.

VSL
05-03-2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about this.

My concern is, how do we leave the money?
Do we just leave it out on the bedside table, or what?
:scratchin

I'm British, so I'm not really used to all this 'expected tipping' stuff :confused3

band_man
05-03-2005, 04:36 PM
I'm not going to blow you out of the water just because your opinion about tipping for maid service differs from mine. However, I do disagree with you.



And let me add that I would never want to keep anyone from what they feel is the right thing to do. I just approach this differently. If mousekeepers did not recieve enough pay from Disney my guess is they would work somewhere else. My feeling is that by tipping for basic services I am helping to keep this backward system going.

But again, I totally appreciate the feelings of people who feel that a tip is warranted. :flower:

band_man
05-03-2005, 04:38 PM
I'm not going to blow you out of the water just because your opinion about tipping for maid service differs from mine. However, I do disagree with you.



And let me add that I would never want to keep anyone from what they feel is the right thing to do. I just approach this differently. If mousekeepers did not receive enough pay from Disney my guess is they would work somewhere else. My feeling is that by tipping for basic services I am helping to keep this backward system going.

But again, I totally appreciate the feelings of people who feel that a tip is warranted. :flower:

caitycaity
05-03-2005, 04:40 PM
And let me add that I would never want to keep anyone from what they feel is the right thing to do. I just approach this differently. If mousekeepers did not recieve enough pay from Disney my guess is they would work somewhere else. My feeling is that by tipping for basic services I am helping to keep this backward system going.

But again, I totally appreciate the feelings of people who feel that a tip is warranted. :flower:

we never tip (for regular cleaning -- we would tip if there was a big mess or something) either. quite frankly, i'd never heard of tipping maids at hotels for ordinary service before coming here to the dis.

i'm sure i will be flamed now, but i just wanted to let you know, you are not alone.

we still always have a clean room and we have even gotten towel animals.

jimmiej
05-03-2005, 05:07 PM
$2/day

Meezers
05-03-2005, 05:16 PM
Our first all adult trip to WDW....my brother and I (separate rooms) made special envelopes with stickers....got the special Susan B Anthony gold dollars or crisp dollar bills. We went out of our way.

No clean towels.....no towel animals...no clean bathroom. On the 4th day I dusted.

Needless to say I have been leery of tipping Mousekeeping. It seems like because our rooms are neater than others (and I have seen open doors to some other rooms...scary)....we get kinda skipped. So sometimes I tip...sometimes I leave a chocolate treat or cookies...sometimes I don't do anything.

Am I a bad person?

jcsbama
05-03-2005, 05:25 PM
If I want to tip for above and beyond service, how do I do that? I'm not going to know if it was above and beyond until after the room is clean and it's not necessarily the same mousekeeper each day.

When we stayed at ASSP three years ago, I didn't tip mousekeeping (didn't know about it and really never thought about it until the dis boards) and we got towel animals several times. I just thought it was part of their service. I've had things like that at all inclusive resorts and assumed it was the "new fancy thing to do". Sorry for my ignorance, but when you live within five hours of the beach and the smokey mountains, most vacations are spent at condos and no need for daily maid service.

MamaQuack
05-03-2005, 05:26 PM
Many of the mousekeepers have not had the benefits of a great education. Many are here working hard in a profession that was not their first choice. Many do not have other options. And all I have encountered go above and beyond their job description. I have posted this before and will continue to do so - do you have to tip, no - but are a couple of extra $$ going to break you when you look at the cost of your trip? As somene who has worked in the service world, has worked for tips I can tell you that a $5 surprise can make or break your day. O.K., let the flames begin.

nbandfour
05-03-2005, 05:34 PM
We tip @ $5 per bedroom, and usually have two bedrooms as we have 4 children. We leave the money under a note that says "for housekeeping" and includes any requests we might have-- usually for more towels, blankets, or to replace a lightbulb.

NB

foxtrotter
05-03-2005, 05:39 PM
We stayed 5 nights onsite in December. I left $4 a night for the first three nights. Yet the mousekeeper must have spent all of 30 seconds in our room. It wasn't vacuumed or swept and no new toiletries were left all three days. The bed was made and fresh towels were left and that was it. So I just didn't leave tips the last two nights and the service was exactly the same, sub-par. I don't mind leaving a tip if you get a little bit of extra/superior care, but not when they're doing the absolute bare minimum. From now on I'll wait to leave a tip until after the first night to be sure it's deserved.

jcsbama
05-03-2005, 05:39 PM
If I leave a tip and mousekeeping missed something, i.e. fresh towels, cups or whatever. Am I expected to tip again to the person that actually performed the job properly? My only question is why do I leave a tip for a service that has yet to be performed. When I tip my hair stylist, bellman, waiter etc., the tip comes AFTER the service. When I tip, it is always approx 15% of the bill regardless of bad service and then the better the service, the better the tip. This tipping for mousekeeping before hand makes no sense to me because they already have the $, so why should they put forth the extra effort for an incentive? Please help me understand the logistics.

mycropht
05-03-2005, 05:41 PM
This was the first year I tipped Mousekeeping. Other years I just didn't even know it was expected. Granted, I was much younger then. This year we tipped an average of $3/day. (There were days we left a $5, days we didn't have cash and didn't leave anything.)

However, I must say that I don't think tipping should be an "understood must-do" as it is now. That kind of gripes me. I work in a service profession, and I make it a point to charge what I need to charge for the work I do. There are countless service professions (think CRO, Front Desk, Travel Agents--all of which I've done in the past) where you have a VERY thankless job, and don't have any face-and-hand time to even get a tip. Those positions are actually paid less in many cases than housekeeping.

However, it seems that in the last 10 years or so it has become an understood rule that we are supposed to tip ANYONE who does anything. It bothers me because a tip is supposed to be a gratuity but it has gradually turned into a poll tax. Just my opinion.

Also, I'm maybe a tiny bit disgruntled that my $3/day for 2 very neat adults didn't even get me one towel animal! :rotfl2:

twoksmom
05-03-2005, 05:45 PM
We make up envelopes and leave a dollar per person per day.There are 4 of us. We try to be neat but we do ask for extra towels almost everyday.Between the pools and long hair for 3 of us, we go through a lot of towels.April ::MickeyMo

mshrm
05-03-2005, 05:48 PM
I think tipping has become "expected" wether you get service that is above average or not.

If these "animal towels" appear or something out of what I should expect for the price I already paid, I will probably leave a little something. But if the room is just basically cleaned as it should be and included in the $100 a night fee then no tip from me. I might need that $5 for an ice cream! :mickeybar

WDW LifeLong Fan
05-03-2005, 05:55 PM
Usually we do a flat $5.00 daily.

We will provide additional gratuity directly to a "mousekeeper" if we get exceptional service and can identify that they are the providers of this service.

Debby7
05-03-2005, 05:58 PM
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sdlovesdisney
05-03-2005, 05:59 PM
Our last 2 visits, we left $4 a day ($1 per person). We used the envelopes with "Mousekeeping" written on them first, and when we returned to the room they were still there. Then we didn't use the envelopes and just laid the money on the nightstand. Still there. We have used the gold Sacagawea (sp?) dollars. Still there. No one ever took our tips our entire stays. What's up with that?

tiggersmom2
05-03-2005, 06:09 PM
we never tip (for regular cleaning -- we would tip if there was a big mess or something) either. quite frankly, i'd never heard of tipping maids at hotels for ordinary service before coming here to the dis.

i'm sure i will be flamed now, but i just wanted to let you know, you are not alone.

we still always have a clean room and we have even gotten towel animals.

You are not alone. We have never tipped either and never will.

epcotfan
05-03-2005, 06:15 PM
We tip between 3-5 dollars a day. However the tips stop if we get lousy housekeeping.

disneygoof
05-03-2005, 06:21 PM
O.K., let the flames begin.

Why should they? You're as entitled to your opinion and practices as any non-tipper.

We tip $10 a day. We do. I work in the service industry and feel like I'm spreading a little pixie dust. On our last stay the Mousekeeper went WAY out of her way to thank me. We have kids so I also think dirty diapers, cheerios, and the plethora of towels we need warrants it. I also subscribe to the "anyone who cleans my toilet deserves a couple extra bucks" philosophy.

Have a magical day!

jcsbama
05-03-2005, 06:31 PM
I also subscribe to the "anyone who cleans my toilet deserves a couple extra bucks" philosophy.
ok, you may have point there :flower:

Ducky4Disney
05-03-2005, 06:46 PM
This is a tough topic and I'm on the fence.

We have tipped in the past, albeit sporadically. On our last trip we stayed at SSR and being a DVC resort we had limited service so we didn't tip for the whole trip, then we decided when we left to leave a tip ($20). I didn't even realize that the same person might not be cleaning my room (duh!). $1 per person/per day makes sense if there is more than 3 people there. On my upcoming solo trip, $1 per day seems insulting. I think start to think whether or not I should tip at all.

There are some excellent points here, why are we tipping for service that is included in the nightly price? Lots of people are talking about "service industry" jobs, but this isn't a waitstaff position that makes under minimum wage and is a commision based job. Do you tip the folks at McDonalds? Probably not. I also think that the excuse/reason of "Many of the mousekeepers have not had the benefits of a great education. Many are here working hard in a profession that was not their first choice. Many do not have other options." is a bit absurd.

On the other hand, I do believe that tipping mousekeeping on the basis of spreading pixie dust and general good cheer is an excellent idea! I think I'll do it for those reasons.

D4D

ribbot
05-03-2005, 06:48 PM
I question whether they even clean the toilets---more than once I've checked into hotels and there's "leftover" hairs from the previous occupants.

I noticed my sheets were not changed unless I personally pulled them down off the bed. Let's see, I was there 8 nights and they were changed twice. If I hadn't of pulled them off the bed, I wonder if they would have been changed at all.

Also, I noticed they put the pillowcases on inside out---hmmm, wonder if they were clean or they just turned the dirty ones inside out?

And like I posted before---when we checked in there was a receipt semi-under the bed (not really, very visible) that was dated April 7th (we checked in April 17th).....and it layed there until April 20th when my hubby finally got tired of me b*tching about it and threw it away.

Did I tip?? Yes I did---was it worth it??? If I wanted to have extra towels, washcloths and a couple extra bars of soap it was. What a shame. :rolleyes:

Meezers
05-03-2005, 06:52 PM
I guess the whole thing is....service at Disney is going downhill. Now granted...they set the bar for themselves....and they set it very high.

Now we expect them to meet the standards they set for themselves and for whatever reason...cutbacks...lack of a Disney on the board...whatever....they don't seem to able to maintain the standards they set.

I have changed my expectations at Disney...sad but then I don't wind up disappointed....

EthansMom
05-03-2005, 06:53 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about this.

My concern is, how do we leave the money?
Do we just leave it out on the bedside table, or what?
:scratchin

I'm British, so I'm not really used to all this 'expected tipping' stuff :confused3

Housekeeping staff are not permitted to take any money laying around in a guests room, so I take envelopes and label them "Housekeeping" (or at WDW, "Mousekeeping"). Also, if we have special requests like extra pillows, we just write a note on the envelope. We seal the money in the envelope and leave it in plain view on top of the bedspread.

Grammamouse
05-03-2005, 07:00 PM
DH and I tip $5.00/day and when I bring my 2 wonderful but little slob granddaughters, we make it $10.00. I agree with disneygoof. One of the joys of vacation is not having to clean the place, especially the bathroom. Yea! So far, we have had wonderful mousekeeping but if no one showed up or did a bad job, we wouldn't tip at all.

ReggieB
05-03-2005, 07:48 PM
When I first moved to this country I wasn't used to the tipping culture at all. I've read many articles and advice columns on the matter and I think I get it generally...but I am no leading expert that's for sure! I have never had any issues with housekeeping at Disney. We got some great towel animals at AKL. I assumed it was because they knew we had a small child...I usually leave $1 or $2 a day. The first time we visited I left something at the end of the stay. Last visit I left it every day, with a small business size card that said thank you. I always seem to run into our housekeeping at least once during our stay and always make a point of saying hello and thanks. My son was sick one night at GF, and, unfortunately, on the bed, but the housekeeper was there very quickly to tidy up and also to make lots of fuss of my son. I am a pretty fastidious housekeeper myself (my poor DH and DS!) but I have never had any problems with the level of service, and believe me I would notice!

DanaHesson
05-03-2005, 08:55 PM
If you have incredibly messy children and the mousekeeping is having to scrape mushed up cheerios from the carpet, constantly cart out pizza boxes, etc.... In other words if you are MESSY, I think a bit of a tip is warranted.

I used to work in the hotel industry as front desk personnel, and believe me, these ladies work very hard, for low pay, and frequently have to clean up nastiness. It just makes ME feel good to leave a little something extra, now Towel Animals? Thats gonna be a fiver for sure!

Debby7
05-03-2005, 10:10 PM
FYI: On my last Disney visit I noticed in the resort paper that for environmental reasons sheets are changed every four days unless otherwise requested. How often do you change your sheets at home?

These people work very hard for minimum pay under a great deal of pressure and time constraints.

It seems to me that if you can afford to vacation at WDW, you can afford to be charitable to the folks cleaning up so that you don't have to. Come on, what's a couple of dollars a day for someone probably less prosperous than you?

tci1212
05-03-2005, 10:31 PM
:flower: We tip around 5.00 a day. I tip because I want the person cleaning my room to know I appreciate the job they do. :sunny:

Rebeccapaige!
05-03-2005, 10:49 PM
hi, I did tip about half the time on our last trip. anyhow the room was cleaned ok, so I really didn't tip for that, I wanted those little towel animals for my girls to see. we are clean, actually we spent very little time in the room we pretty much needed fresh towels and a wipe down everyday like i'd do at home, I never really found the room to be vacumned very well even our first day before we did anything. so anyhow I leave two days tip $3 per day for three people no animals lol. so the third day I wrote her a little note asking if she did them she did them for three days then stopped again, I wish I hadn't had to ask for them but I was afraid my kids would never get to see them, then she shouldn't have stopped either, cuz her service was just ok to me, and that made me want to leave the tips so for the last day I didn't leave her one. anyhow I left the money in the little card that says so and so cleaned your room today. I wish she would have done better, I would have left up to $5 had the service been excellent, now to say this I've never tipped at a hotel before though, and probably wouldn't except in disney or for excellent service, average hotel room cleaning wouldn't get a tip normally.
Becky, Paige and Hailey

Zip-a-dee-dude-da
05-04-2005, 12:00 AM
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band_man
05-04-2005, 12:08 AM
As an earlier poster pointed out - The mousekeepers earn a full wage. Waiters do not.

jcsbama
05-04-2005, 12:39 AM
These people work very hard for minimum pay under a great deal of pressure and time constraints.
Couldn't most people say they are under paid and deal with a great deal of pressure and time constraints with their job? I know I could. Before I get sandblasted, I know the mousekeepers work hard and I appreciate it. The mousekeepers may think their job in unimportant, but look at the number of posts on the dis boards about clean rooms. Their job affects thousands everyday. No matter how small, every job is important.

Many are here working hard in a profession that was not their first choice. Many do not have other options.

This is America, the land of the free...and opportunity. There is always a choice. A choice to tip or not tip, a choice for your profession to be in housekeeping, a choice to go to disney and stay offsite :eek:. There is always a choice, rather you like the choices available or not is a different topic.

VSL
05-04-2005, 04:14 AM
Thanks EthansMom!

If I do tip, it will be to 'spread some pixie dust', as a previous poster put it :flower:
I understand that in the US waiters are paid based on the presumption that they will get enough tips to make up for it, yet over in the UK the waiters get paid similar to what I got paid when I worked part-time in a supermarket, yet we still tip anyway.
Of course, in the US I am more likely to tip anyway - in the UK it depends how they serve me (seeing as they don't need the tips in the same way!).

I think we'll tip $1 per person (that's $2 a day) - $32 for the whole trip.
I don't think I could afford something like $5 a day - $80 for the trip! - as I'm barely taking enough money to be able to feed ourselves (me and bf are students)!

mycropht
05-04-2005, 04:50 AM
I understand that in the US waiters are paid based on the presumption that they will get enough tips to make up for it, yet over in the UK the waiters get paid similar to what I got paid when I worked part-time in a supermarket, yet we still tip anyway.
Of course, in the US I am more likely to tip anyway - in the UK it depends how they serve me (seeing as they don't need the tips in the same way!).


I really think that half the reason we all tip so much over here is that most of the middle class--those that eat frequently in restaurants, drink expensive coffees and go to Disney frequently--started out in very low wage jobs and we all remenber how special that extra fiver was, and how appreciated at the end of the day.

I think the other reason USers tip so much is that we're afraid people will spin in our food if we don't. :umbrella:

MidNite
05-04-2005, 05:37 AM
I haven't seen mentioned here, do they wash the bathtubs daily?


We usually leave our tip under the card that's in the room about Mousekeeping. We place it on the counter or the top of the TV.

I was also unaware of tipping maids til recently. I forget some days, but normally we try to. It just makes me feel good.

indigoxtreme
05-04-2005, 10:04 PM
I have found a couple of good sites to download a self made mousekeeping envelope
http://www.themouseforless.com/downloads/trip/mousekeeping.shtml

also

http://www.arwolff.com/heidi/ These you print on #10 Envelopes

There are other downloads available at the 1st site as well, luggage tags etc

xmelissax
05-05-2005, 12:44 AM
I'm along with the other people who have never even heard of tipping housekeeping at a hotel. I'm not against tipping at all, but after years of traveling and staying in tons of very nice and some not so nice hotels I have never ever heard of anyone doing that. I suppose I just didn't think of it because the people who I generally tip are people who's income mostly comes from tips. Waiters,women in the nail salon, etc. Is this a Disney specific thing?

ANTSS2001
05-05-2005, 01:21 AM
OK just to throw my 2 cents in... Even prior to Disney property my parents have thought me to tip for hotel services and that includes housekeeping. I am no spring chicken anymore so I thought that tipping has been around for awhile. My family only started being on the other side of the counter recently when my father retired as an "office typa guy" and my mom retired as a "desk typa woman". Maybe a good decade now that we own a pastry shop and learn the joy of the kids when they get tipped after serving coffee or pastry. But even prior to this we have been practicing that as long as your hapy you endjoyed what you eat you enjoyed where you sleep on and you dont have to pick up the dirty plates we tip. We have been going to Disney property since late 70's from Asia to Florida but only recently we learned about the animal towels. Well it was just an added incentive for us to tip them and tell them how they made our stay more unique than the last time. Tip wise we leave them on a thank you card that sometimes the kids in our family write. This way it also teaches them to write and also appreciate the stuff that they have and teaches them the art of sharing. restaurant tipping.. that's another segment in my case :rotfl:

chaoscent
05-05-2005, 05:49 AM
My mom worked in many service type jobs. She started out cleaning houses for other people, was a waitress for a long while and after she retired she was a maid in Cape May, NJ. As a result of all of her service jobs, we were taught to tip well for good service and to tip poorly for bad service. I am not saying that it is good or bad thing, I am saying it was the way I was raised. My mom had few choices of where she could work. She did not have a high school degree and had few skills. Her pay put food on the table and clothes on our backs. Her tips went for extras like going to the movies, a special clothes item or going out for ice cream. A few times those extra few dollars meant the difference between meeting the mortgage or not.

While I was growing up my mom preached that we needed to go to college or get trained in a valued skill so we could have a choice of where we worked so we would not have to rely on the generosity of others to put food on the table. All three of her children took her advice and we all make a decent living.

I tip in all hotels, including those in WDW. If I do not get good service, I don't tip. If I get great service I tip higher. It's who I am and the way I was raised. I normally tip $2 or $3 per night (there's only two of us) and more if we left the room especially dirty or if I got some really cool animals. Last trip at WL after leaving a tip of $5 the maid stopped my husband in the hallway and thanked him. With as much money as I spend at WDW those few extra dollars seem insignificant, but obviously made a difference to a working person. Just my 2 cents worth.
Penny

Bob NC
05-05-2005, 05:51 AM
Every survey I've ever seen related to tipping housekeepers shows that most folks DON"T.

I tip $3 or $4 per day.

LindsayDunn228
05-05-2005, 06:15 AM
Meezers I sent you a PM :)

I had never heard of tipping housekeeping until I came to the DIS. It had just never crossed my mind. So this last trip I tipped $3/day. It was just my hubby and I and we are pretty clean. I stacked our siutcases and put them out of the way, wiped around the counter, and made a pile of our dirty towels. There wasn't a whole lot to do :) But after chatting to a few Mousekeepers, I found they were precious and worked really hard. What is it going to hurt me to tip a few bucks??

:) :) :)

tinksgirl
05-05-2005, 06:21 AM
We are a family of 5,I make sure dirty towels are all in the tub pull up the blankets on the bed tie up all trash in bags and leave 5.00 a day for the maid.

mycropht
05-05-2005, 10:05 AM
Every survey I've ever seen related to tipping housekeepers shows that most folks DON"T.

I tip $3 or $4 per day.


The angry beaver is holding the railings in the Wilderness Lodge elevator!!!!

dreamflight99
05-05-2005, 10:48 AM
$6-10 per day when we are in a 2-room suite (3 persons). :flower:

tinksgirl~LOL...we too, do everything but run the vacuum and wash windows! We clean everything, tie all the trash in the cans for easy removal (using the clear plastic bags in the cans), and ALWAYS make the beds each morning (force of habit). :confused3 We enjoy keeping the room tidy and neat, and I sure the mousekeepers enjoy it too! :goodvibes

chaoscent~Penny, God Bless your mom for having such a strong work ethic. She has taught you many invaluable lessons in life (w/regards to the service industry). :cloud9: She followed through with her heart's desire, wanting more for her children (and for all of you to exceed her station in life). I agree with you about the "few extra dollars" (when it comes to tipping). My DF always instilled in my his philosophy when it came to tipping in the service industry. If you do NOT have the "extra" money to give to these persons, do not travel or utilize such services. Plain and simple. I frequent a full-service hand car wash facility, where the workers are mainly Mexican migrants on a work permit in this country. They rely upon tips to make ends meet. The work is all manual labor, providing a convenient service. My DF enjoyed this service while visiting the last time they drove to visit. Again, he tipped well after his car was finished, and reminded me "if you do not have the $$ to spare, do not stop-in for service." Words of wisdom. ;)

*As a side note, I was stunned to learn many things about Florida's wage & minimum wage system. Unlike California, restaurants are able to get-away with paying their wait staff LESS than the standard minimum wage (Waiter at the Olive Garden in Orlando was making $2.30 per hour!), because they justify the DIFFERENCE in TIPS?!?! Also, the state minimum wage is lower than here in California ( http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm) @ $6.15 vs. $6.75-10.50* (in *Santa Monica Coastal businesses...even housekeepers at Coastal resorts begin @ $10.50 per hour).
Also, our "Premium Pay After Designated Hours" is starkly different from Florida and most other states. We are due for another cost of living increase in minimum wages in this state very soon.

:wave2: DF99

eeyore45
05-05-2005, 11:02 AM
I guess the whole thing is....service at Disney is going downhill. Now granted...they set the bar for themselves....and they set it very high.

Now we expect them to meet the standards they set for themselves and for whatever reason...cutbacks...lack of a Disney on the board...whatever....they don't seem to able to maintain the standards they set.

I have changed my expectations at Disney...sad but then I don't wind up disappointed....

My thoughts is not to "blame" the mousekeeper, but to go higher up - I believe the bottom line is for the "stockholders" Wall Street, in order to make the bottom line look better, cost cutting measures are in order (and we do like all those codes and deals we get!!) so housekeepers are asked to clean more rooms, and then they miss on days they have a larger 'quota' imho... I like saving energy, thus not washing towels and sheets everyday is ok by me, I do get a little choked up thinking of the consequences of some 'mishaps etc' on thse bedspreads, but you know... life happens!! :rotfl:

I'm just wondering if we put up with it, it will continue, if we write and suggest the load of mousekeepers seems high, because the quality of the mousekeepers is superb... or something???

Suzanne74
05-05-2005, 12:28 PM
hmm - this is a tough subject and to tip or not to tip is everyone's own opinion. I see lots of reasons to tip but I see lots of reasons not to.

We just got back from the Poly concierge and paid a pretty penny to stay there. My initial thoughts would be - why should I have to shell out even more money for a clean room, isn't that what you are paying for to begin with?? No one would stay in a room that wasn't cleaned in any hotel and like another person posted, the are not paid like waiters/hairdressers etc... working for tips. I have stayed in many hotels for 1 night on business or deluxe resorts for multiple days and have not tipped - never even thought I should nor have I ever heard you are supposed to from anyone that I know. Now here at this board I hear about people tipping so maybe I will too - that will be nice.

Well on arrival, our room was not so clean. There was mildew in the shower, sand on the floor, stains on the sheets and dried toothpaste in the corner of the sink. Now - honestly I wasn't looking for bad things and I normally never complain about trivial things but I am paying $400 a night for a room and I think walking in sandy carpet is not right. None the less, I tipped $5 the next day before we left. We came back and the money gone and the room seemed pretty clean. That night after dinner our turndown service was nice with dd's characters on the bed, chocolates, new towels. lights turned on, trash changed again and looked nice and clean all over again. I tipped $5 the next day. Well after that service went down hill. To the point I was thinking our towels were being refolded. I even put a little lipstick mark in the corner of one I left on the counter - it wasn't dirty or wrinkled. Well, sure enough, it was back on the rack again that night. Along with turn down service with just the bed spread turned down - but it was turned down overtop of the concierge robe!! I left it on the bed as we were in a rush and did not hang it up. It was wrinkled inside the turndown bedspread!! No chocolates, no dirty towels taken, nothing for turn down service the rest of the time. So did I tip from here on to the end of the trip - No way. I honestly think they though I would pay $5 a day from here on out and took advantage of it. I will not tip again unless something really nice was done and I will found out who did it and tip them directly - not just leave money there for someone else to get it.

Just my 2 cents...