Dont Recline (think Of People Behind)

[mrshnn]

I DONT KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK,BUT MY PET HATE IS WHEN ON A FLIGHT THE PERSON IN FRONT RECLINES ALMOST FULLY STRAIGHT AWAY,I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A RESTRICTOR TO STOP THE RECLINE,
I FIND THE BEST THING TO DO IS DIG YOUR KNEES IN BEHIND THEY SEEM TO GET THE MESSAGE.
NOW IVE GOT THAT OFF MY CHEST,IM GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO MY HOLIDAY,THE MORAL OF MY THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE CONSIDERATE BEFORE THEY RECLINE.

THANKS :hourglass :love1:

[vicky1bfc]

Tbh it i could never work out why people moaned about other's reclining their seat's.Unti our last trip and the lady infront decided to fully recline her seat and in the process nearly took my leg off.I screamed and she pulled it back up but only for a few min's then put in back down.

[DTHCharlotte]

http://www.kneedefender.com/

[Candy]

I agree with you 100% i understand if you recline your seat at some point of a 9 hour flight. but as you say some people recline their seat as soon as they sit down.i have even seen people get out of their seat leave it in the recline posistion and stand by the exits to have long conversations with other menbers of their group.fine but why cant they just put their seat back in the upright posistion when they get up? these people are so selfish.

[trevorsem]

Totally agree, but it's a fact of life that people do it.

A polite word in their shell like normally does the trick.

:earseek:

[carolfoy]

I cant stand it when small children insist on reclining, i mean why??? its not like they need the room, I usually only recline if the person in front of me has and won't put his/her seat up but I always feel a wave of guilt about the poor people behind me

[wendye]

Hear, hear I definately agree, although I don't have a problem with the legroom (I'm only 5ft 31/2") I really dislike having the seat so close to me as it closes in the space too much. I always try not to put the seat back beyond the slight recline but when the person in front of you does this you sometimes don't have any choice. I just hope if that happens next year that I snore in the person's ear and wake them up! :teeth:

[angel659]

I hate it aswell. What annoys me the most is your trying to eat or drink and the person in front doesnt put thier seat back. How rude! If mine is ever reclined I always makesure it is put back for meal times and never through the whole flight.

[eyoreaud]

:mad: I have to agree 100%!!!!!. What i don't understand is that the people who recline their seats fully before takeoff arn't always told off by cabin crew!, this has happened to me on 2 occasions, the last time it happened the woman in front of me reclined her seat with such force that she almost broke my finger and almost knocked a hot cup of coffee over me in the process!!! :crazy: This is one of my pet hates (in case you hadn't noticed :rolleyes1 ) and i think new guide lines should be introdeced by the airplane owners and strictly enforced by threatening to fine these utterly thoughtless people! It's not that i'm totaly againsed people trying to sleep on long haul flights but a little common courtesy wouldn't go amiss! Iwould NEVER dream of reclining my seat untill i'd at least asked the unfortunate person behind me first! Why cant other people be more thoughtful? :confused3

Phew! I'm soooooo... glad to have got that off my chest now :goodvibes

Great Thread by the way!!! :)

Audrey.
xxxxxx

[Mike Jones]

..couple of points on this old chestnut - it's the seat spacing that's wrong (ie: too damn small), not the fact that the seats recline. I'm 6'3", with a long standing back complaint and, if I couldn't recline, I would be ruined before we got to the States. So, I recline - but I sit in front of my diminutive wife and 12 yr old DD, so we dpn't irritate a 3rd party. If the party in the seat in front causes me any problems, I have a polite word - never failed to get a compromise yet.

And, of course, everyone has the option of flying first or premier class if they can stomach the cost...

Mike :)

[wicket2005]

I have never reclined my seat purely because I don't want to cause a problem to the people behind me. It is extremely annoying if someone does it to you, so because I don't like it I don't do it to others.

[Candy]

I think people recline their seats because they can. and some people have no consideration for others.iwish the seats didnt recline then everyone would have the same seat space. and if you want more room pay for it and upgrade.

[XAVIER]

Thia happened to us a couple of years ago. The people in front reclined as soon as we had taken off and refused to put the seats back up even while we were eating! Even when the stewardess asked them to. The stewardess just shrugged and apologised to us saying that there was not much she could do. :confused3
In the end my two kids sat behind the offending couple and for once did not get told off for constantly fidgeting and kicking the back of the seat in front! :rotfl:

[mrshnn]

im flying with brittania this time and we got a good deal to upgrade flight £169 each for myself and wife and i managed to prebook seats so that i have no one in front of me,but even still i will not recline,i will slouch
no i think all it takes is a simple"do you mind" :hourglass :umbrella:

[wendye]

Thia happened to us a couple of years ago. The people in front reclined as soon as we had taken off and refused to put the seats back up even while we were eating! Even when the stewardess asked them to. The stewardess just shrugged and apologised to us saying that there was not much she could do. :confused3
In the end my two kids sat behind the offending couple and for once did not get told off for constantly fidgeting and kicking the back of the seat in front! :rotfl:


Nice one :cool1: That'll teach them to consider others!

[kevin harrison]

Thd first time I ever flew to the US, (and also was the first time in a plane) a women in front of me reclined immediatly, I had a window seat and am 6"2" so was very squashed. I just constantly banged the back of her seat with my knees, and kept catching her seat with my legs. Eventually she turned around and I think expected to find some child messing about, she was just oblivious to the person behind her and had not thought about me at all. After that she sat upright all the way.

It's for you all to decide if I was banging her chair on purpose!!!!

[ely3857]

Hiya

When I get on a plane I DO recline the seat, Not immediatley & I do reset when I get up. The reason I recline is because of a back issue which means I cant sit at right angles. I try not to offend anybody or get in anybodies way but please be aware not only rude people recline.

:flower:

Jodie

[wendye]

Jodie

I don't mind the slight recline that's not so bad and that would mean you aren't at a right angle but I'm sorry I fail to see how full recline can be good for your back - it would be absolute agony for mine. However, my issue with the family we had in front of us wasn't just with one person they had even put their 3 year old's seat on full recline and this was before take off (we hadn't even sat down at that point). The situation was made worse because I had to squeeze along the 4 seats in the middle bumping my hip on the arm rests of each because we had mistaken all gone down the one aisle (well this was our first time to the US - and so far only time). Being rude is not the same as being inconsiderate anyway and unfortunately some people are both!

If there is a reason for it not being upright fair enough provided you have the decency not to put it on full recline all the time and are prepared to put it up to allow a person to exit their seat easily, eat in comfort or when you leave your seat but the ones we are discussing are those that think it is their right to have their seat on full recline all the time and "sod" the person behind - that's not just rude it's inconsiderate too! Manners don't cost anything but again unfortunately these people don't usually have any.

[the kabuki]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/images/smilies/flamehide.gif
Donning suit, ready for flames...
Sorry, but I'm one of those that reclines my seat. The seats were meant to recline, they're made that way.

There was a previous thread on this that I didn't respond to. Honestly it was the first time I had even thought that others might care one way or another about this. I don't slam the seat back the second I'm on the plane. Nor at mealtimes, take off, and landing. But during the flight, yes I will recline, as the person in front of me has done 100% of the time.



Personally, if it's that big of an issue that you feel the need to scream and shout, there's always first class.

[wendye]

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Personally, if it's that big of an issue that you feel the need to scream and shout, there's always first class.

Only if you would care to provide the extra money that costs! :mad:

As I said manners cost nothing! It is not necessary for it to be on full recline to be comfortable! Show other people the consideration you would expect or do you expect to be treated this way! If you do you have a serious problem in my opinion!

[gilld]

I also have to recline my seat on a flight due to chronic sciatica. The reason being I need to straighten my spine as much as possible as sitting is what causes the most pain. I do NOT recline until after the meal and if someone has to pass me to move in and out I set the seat upright again. For this reason we now choose to upgrade, but not everyone can afford to do this.

Surely as long as one is considerate during meal times and on take off and landing, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. The fault really lies with the airlines who insist on cramming far too many seats into too small a space.

[Red-Snapper]

Not this again !!

The seats recline so people use it, dont understand how using a built in function of the chair can be considered rude etc

I dont often recline but always do if the person in front does - no big deal either way.

:smooth:

[the kabuki]

Only if you would care to provide the extra money that costs! :mad:

Only thing I will say is If you are in front on me next year and take that attitude expect to get your hair pulled and possibly something split on top of your head! I pay the same as you and have the right to the same space without inconveniencing the people behind me. As I said manners cost nothing! It is not necessary for it to be on full recline to be comfortable! Show other people the consideration you would expect or do you expect to be treated this way! If you do you have a serious problem in my opinion!

Anyway I'm saying no more you have been warned! :mad: :mad:

So you're going to start a physical assault on me because I have my seat reclined? Something that it is made to do by the airlines? So the person in front of me reclines, but because you're behind me, you are entitled to sit in comfort and ease while I suffer in my seat? Get real. Flying on planes nowadays sucks, the airlines cram people in there like sardines, deal with it and move on. What are we talking about here, an inch, inch and half. Life's too short to waste on something so trivial.

Like I said before, if you're looking for air travel in comfort and luxury, book a 1st class ticket. Otherwise, travel in coach and deal with it.

[the kabuki]

Not this again !!

The seats recline so people use it, dont understand how using a built in function of the chair can be considered rude etc

I dont often recline but always do if the person in front does - no big deal either way.

:smooth:

Exactly ::yes::

[wendye]

I also have to recline my seat on a flight due to chronic sciatica. The reason being I need to straighten my spine as much as possible as sitting is what causes the most pain. I do NOT recline until after the meal and if someone has to pass me to move in and out I set the seat upright again. For this reason we now choose to upgrade, but not everyone can afford to do this.

Surely as long as one is considerate during meal times and on take off and landing, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. The fault really lies with the airlines who insist on cramming far too many seats into too small a space.

Gill I would agree with you there but unfortunately there is little we can do about that in the meantime I can't afford to upgrade at the moment - I still have 3 people to pay for!

As I said when it's not on "full" recline it's not an issue but when it is I end up with the top of the seat about 6 - 8 inches from my nose end and that isn't very nice (maybe if I was taller I wouldn't notice it so much but I'm not).

Maybe I had a bad experience that time who knows but all I will say is I will make allowances but I'm not a door mat! Be considerate and polite and you won't hear anything from me but be deliberately rude and inconsiderate as the family I encountered in 2002 were and you will be treated in the same way. The return journey is another issue apart from the mealtime I don't expect anything different as this is a night flight afterall, however I still don't recline my seat unless the person behind me has and even then don't do the full recline.

The way I see it is that if the person in fron shows me consideration I will respond by trying to ensure that I don't cause them any problems and also pass that onto the person behind. I don't think that that it is too much to ask to show each other respect Do you?

[wendye]

It won't hurt to apologise and give the person behind some warning though would it!

Kabuki - no disrespect but you do not live in the UK - the seat pitch on your airlines is considerably better then ours you think yours are tight you want to try our sometime -ask the others they will tell you.

I am not saying it is rude to put the seat back but to flatly refuse to put it up while the person behind gets out of their seat or eats their meal is!

Anyhow I am not going to comment further on this one now basically I can't be bothered. The people I encountered wouldn't even put their seats up for take off even when told to by the FA - that is illegal and as well as inconsiderate.

[rosiejo]

Blimey - I'd never really thought about being arecliner/no recliner before - I don't on the way out - I'm too excited reading all the guide books again! But on the way back on a wretched night flight when you just can't get comfy - yeah i'll put my seat back - but not all the way - and I suppose I do check with the person behind, but then at night a lot of people recline - I guess it's ok if you all do it like dominos - same amount of space.

It does bug me when people recline in front of you at dinner and then move around in the seat so the table wobbles.

You know what I'd like to see? All the people on this thread on one flight... bring on the air rage :0)

[daveyoghurt]

It doesn't bother me if the dude in front wants to recline the seat - we're all on holiday after all! Flying for 10 hours is stressful enough without worrying about the position of the person in front, what does getting uptight mid-air achieve? I just kick back, get another beer from the stewardess and toast the fact I'm 10 hours away from sheer bliss...

[kevin harrison]

It doesn't bother me if the dude in front wants to recline the seat - we're all on holiday after all! Flying for 10 hours is stressful enough without worrying about the position of the person in front, what does getting uptight mid-air achieve? I just kick back, get another beer from the stewardess and toast the fact I'm 10 hours away from sheer bliss...

You are right, next time I'll ignore I am 6"2" suffer a bad back and have my knees tucked under my chin. Beer will solve it, thanks.

[daveyoghurt]

I thought twice about responding to your post, especially having read about your violent response to a woman who had the audacity to recline her seat in front of you! Still, violent confrontations are preferable to a reclining seat at altitude, aren't they?

Just reaffirming my views (as have others), that reclining seats are no big deal. If you have ailments that prevent you from sitting with others that have paid the same as you for the same rights, perhaps you should declare it to the airline and hope to get a seat where this wouldn't become and issue?

[shellbell]

Not this again !!

The seats recline so people use it, dont understand how using a built in function of the chair can be considered rude etc

I dont often recline but always do if the person in front does - no big deal either way.

:smooth:

I have to agree :)

You pay a fortune to sit in a small space if reclining is going to make me more comfy on such a long journey then i will be doing it. Of course not in meal times and if someones would like to get past all they have to do is ask :Pinkbounc

[rosiejo]

http://www.kneedefender.com/

Is that for real?? Fantastic invention!!

[mrshnn]

all people want is a little consideration not the "im all right jack attitude"or if you dont like it upgrade :hourglass

[kevin harrison]

I thought twice about responding to your post, especially having read about your violent response to a woman who had the audacity to recline her seat in front of you! Still, violent confrontations are preferable to a reclining seat at altitude

If you have ailments that prevent you from sitting with others that have paid the same as you for the same rights, perhaps you should declare it to the airline and hope to get a seat where this wouldn't become and issue?

Dave are you saying I was violent to a women? I think you need to be taking that back my friend...

All I said was if someone reclines their seat against my knees, it's likely to get knocked, if I have to move....

Incidentally Dave, I pay for PE so I get space for this reason. I wish I didn't have to but, you know reclining seats and all that...

[XAVIER]

My wife feels quite ill if the person in front reclines really far back. Not a good flyer and it makes her feel even worse as usually the crossing is rather bumpy. She told me tonight if someone insists on full reclining all the way across (when she has politely asked them to put the seat up a bit because it makes her feel sick- she's going to stand up with a cup of water, won't be able to get out of her seat because of the reclined seat and pour the water over their head "accidentally on purpose"!! So be warned! :rotfl: :rolleyes1

[daveyoghurt]

Kevin, let's just say we react differently to reclining chairs - and leave it at that!

[Teejay]

http://www.kneedefender.com/
Great little gadget, must order one of these, can't wait to try it out.

[SimonV]

Let's keep the flames down, people. There are arguments to be made both ways, but we don't get personal about it. Let's practice some of that consideration we would all like the people in front of us on the flight to have!

[the kabuki]

Having never been on airlines in the UK, I can't comment on the recline on those. Sounds as if they are worse than ours here.

I don't recline during meals, take off, landing, if someone needs to get out, I'll gladly move. I'll give up my seat on a bus to someone older/pregnant, I'll let you cut in front of me at the grocery store if you only have a couple of items, you can go first at the 4-way stop, I'll make sure my children are under control and not annoying people in public , I'll never use my cell phone in public places, nor will I have it turned on in theaters, churches, etc.

But I will not be forced to sit up like a ramrod on flight when the seats recline.

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

Again, these days we are a country of cheap is best and you cannot have both!
You either pay for more room and more personal space, or you take the cheap option of less room and a seatback in your face.

I know people will say "we cannot afford to fly Buisness/Premium economy" but I have to say, you get what you pay for. and for an 8,000 mile journey £800 is good value, whilst £300, well, where do you think they are going to make cost cuts? You wait until the 800 seat A380's are doing the Bucket & spade routes!!!

Why not save up longer, go to Spain or one of the resorts in this country for a few more years and then go to the USA?

Its nonsense to say that someone must keep their chair (which are uncomfortable anyway as the airlines make them smaller and thinner to save room and get more seats in) upright because you want more personal space and suffer the backpains involved. The seat is designed to recline for a reason. If you want an airline that the seats do not recline, fly Ryanair!



We flew once, some 17 years ago, on a charter that flew from glasgow to birmingham and then onto Orlando.
Never again! we did it to save some money, but we then spent four days in agony afterwards from terrible backache from the tiny seats.
Since then, we only ever fly commercial and either Buisness or upper class. And if we cannot afford it? we wait and go when we can. Spain is lovely, sopid Portugal, and there are some beutiful parts of the British Isles which I bet none of us have visited totally (and of course, keeps our fellow brits in work!)

[VSL]

I'm flying with Virgin and staying overnight at The Hilton in Gatwick, so I'm going to do the twilight check-in and either see if we can upgrade (gonna throw in the fact that I'm going for my 21st :rolleyes1 ), and if not I'm going to see about an exit-row seat :flower:

[vicky1bfc]

Again, these days we are a country of cheap is best and you cannot have both!
You either pay for more room and more personal space, or you take the cheap option of less room and a seatback in your face.

I know people will say "we cannot afford to fly Buisness/Premium economy" but I have to say, you get what you pay for. and for an 8,000 mile journey £800 is good value, whilst £300, well, where do you think they are going to make cost cuts? You wait until the 800 seat A380's are doing the Bucket & spade routes!!!

Why not save up longer, go to Spain or one of the resorts in this country for a few more years and then go to the USA?

Its nonsense to say that someone must keep their chair (which are uncomfortable anyway as the airlines make them smaller and thinner to save room and get more seats in) upright because you want more personal space and suffer the backpains involved. The seat is designed to recline for a reason. If you want an airline that the seats do not recline, fly Ryanair!



We flew once, some 17 years ago, on a charter that flew from glasgow to birmingham and then onto Orlando.
Never again! we did it to save some money, but we then spent four days in agony afterwards from terrible backache from the tiny seats.
Since then, we only ever fly commercial and either Buisness or upper class. And if we cannot afford it? we wait and go when we can. Spain is lovely, sopid Portugal, and there are some beutiful parts of the British Isles which I bet none of us have visited totally (and of course, keeps our fellow brits in work!)

Are you serious? You telling people to pay for an upgrade or go to spain.

[Goofyish]

Saying don't go until you can afford to fly PE or First Class is a bit of a simplistic solution!
There may be many reason why this is not a practical choice for many people. Either due to the ages of children, work commitments, illness etc. A lot of people already push themselves financially and have to save for years to be able to afford their holiday of a lifetime to Florida. Some go without any kind of holiday for a few years so they and go to Florida. Not everyone has the financial flexibility to put off their Florida holiday and go to Spain instead!
Even paying for the 'cheap' seats should not exclude people from expecting a bit of common decency and manners from whoever is sitting in front of them. It doesn't take much effort to turn round and check if the person sitting behind is OK with the seat being reclined. It doesn't take much effort to think about the person sitting behind you during meal times.

I'm sorry Obi Wan - I find you attitude a bit insulting to those families that have saved for years for that one opportunity to go to Florida.

[kristieuk]

I cannot believe how rude people are! At the end of the days airplane seats aren't comfortable, and I don't see how anyone can be blamed or even abused for trying to get just a little bit comfortable! I'm not saying you should be inconsiderate or have no care for the person behind, but who is to say they haven't reclined their own seats. That's what the seats do - it isn't anyone doing anything they shouldn't for heaven's sake.

It's a lot worse on budget airlines from what I can tell. Try American Airlines - they have a +3" pitch on BA, so goodness knows the improvement on carriers like Britannia.

[vicky1bfc]

Kirstie,i don't think anyone's saying people shouldn't make themselves comfortable.People would just like a bit of common consideration when people are doing it.In my case it would have been nice to have been asked (or warned)then i could have moved my leg's instead the silly woman tried to take them off.

[mrshnn]

i seemed to have created a monster with this thread,i think what we all want really is people to be a little considerate and thoughtful,reclining a little does not bother people i find when its done in one sudden fell swoop that it causes problems,anyway im thinking less than 4 weeks to go yipeee :cool1: :grouphug: :hourglass :love1:

[vernon]

Kristie said It's a lot worse on budget airlines from what I can tell. Try American Airlines - they have a +3" pitch on BA, so goodness knows the improvement on carriers like Britannia. and I have to agree if seat pitch is this big an issue to you that you'll threaten or get physical with someone in front of you who is using their seat in a manner that it is intended/designed to do , then you should consider using an airline that has made a concious choice to offer wider seats and a greater seat pitch distance. It is for those reasons that the majoroity of my flights in the last 5 years have been with either American Airlines or USAirways. Even BA seem to be better than Virgin. IMHO you're getting angry with the wrong people, it's the airlines who try to squeeze extra people onto the flights by minimizing the space per customer who should be the target for your ire, not the person who is just trying to get as comfortable as possible within the confines of their seat's range. If by choosing American Airlines I've had to fly into Miami and drive up for the same price as a direct flight to Orlando, then that usually would be my choice (usually it's cheaper to fly to Miami). It is only by the customer making a concious choice to hit the airlines, that sardine crate you into the aircraft, where it hurts them most that we can show them what we require from them. Which is I believe sufficient space to be able to sit comfortably. Again if having someone's chair back too close to you is an issue, tell the airline you have a back problem that means you have to sit bolt upright and for that reason you need to have a front row (bulk head) seat. If it's an issue to you, there are a number of ways to minimise or eliminate the risk of you having the seat in front of you right in your face, but the onus is on the person feeling that way to be proactive in making choices or taking actions to do so.

Now I'll accept there are times, such as meal times or when they are moving about the plane, when out of courtesy they should be as upright as possible, and that when reclining the seat to do so in a manner that doesn't smash the legs of the person behind, but other than that, if they are in their seat and they are within the range of movement that the airline allows that seat to achieve then it is the person that nudges, kicks, pulls hair or tips water that is not only being discourtious but if there were to be an "incident" over the issue would be the person blamed or charged with inciting such an incident. They may feel they are "defending their space" but if the person in the seat who is reclining is within the range of their seats movement it is the person behind who is infringing space.

[kristieuk]

Well said!

[Pootle]

Kristie said: Try American Airlines - they have a +3" pitch on BA
Alas the generous 34" seat pitch of American Airlines, advertised with the 'More Room Throughout Coach' slogan, will soon be no more. Here is an extract from an email they sent me when I raised this issue with them:

Now, however, the marketplace has changed even further. With the record high price of fuel and the continued low fare environment, our More Room Throughout Coach product puts us at a revenue disadvantage to our competitors. If we are to remain competitive and increase our strengths, we are determined to find a viable balance between cost-competitiveness and our customers' preferences. As a result, we made the difficult but prudent decision to add seats back on our MD80s, 737s, 767s and 777s. We are convinced that there was no better alternative

They will still be better than charters, but not the gem they have been for the last few years :sad2:

[daxus]

These threads always bring a smile to my face.

Someone always posts how a 'really rude' person had the audacity to recline the seat in front of them. This poster then gleefully tells us how they then kept kicking the back of that persons seat, or performed some other spiteful attack on them. Surely these people can see the irony in their behaviour... Its just a tad like a sulky child isn't it???

1. People are allowed to recline their seats if they want to. It doesn't matter whether you like it. If you don't think that seats should be reclined you need to take it up with the airlines, not your fellow passengers.

2. Surely the best way to express you feelings is to actually TALK to the person in front of you. They are probably not psychic, and therefore are completely unaware that you regard having a seat reclined in front of you as a personal attack, and are plotting your evil revenge.

3. If the person still wants to have their seat reclined, speak to the cabin crew and see if they can help.

4. And if all that fails, just console yourself that in a few hours you'll be off of the plane and all will be well again.

5. You could always put your own seat back, and then you'll have all your space back again :)

Be well....

[XAVIER]

Personaly, my issue was not with the fact that they put their seats back it was with their attitude about it. When asked by both us and then the stewardess to put them back up while we were eating the couple in front refused point blank. Why? :sad2:
Now to me that is just plain ignorant (and arrogant). The stewardess did not want to cause a big fuss over it (although she was clearly annoyed) so we let it go but had to move the kids in to those seats to allow us grown ups a bit more room to eat. :rolleyes1
If I recline my seat, and I do sometimes, I always ask behind and tell the person to inform me if they want me to move it back. It's called curtesy.
Luckily I've only ever experienced this type of thing the one time. Most people are very considerate and will gladly move their seat back up to let you eat and even give you warning when they are going to recline it again.
Common sense really.

[eyoreaud]

:goodvibes Good for you XAVIER !

I think you've hit the nail on the head there my friend :) If everyone was a little more thoughtful of others then there would be no need for bad feelings, especialy as (i'm sure) no one wants to have a lousy time on their flight when they're going to the most Magical place on earth :sunny:

Nuff Said :grouphug:

[mrshnn]

i agree xavier well put,i agree completely :cheer2: :grouphug: :umbrella:

[DisCharmed]

I'd never experienced this until I flew to Antigua with Virgin this year. Same old story - the people in front dropped their seats back before take off. During turbulance we were asked to put ours upright even though we had no one behind us as we were near the doors. BUT the people in front of us weren't!

When it came to meal times we had to ask the stewardess twice to ask them to put their seats up so we could eat - which they did for all of 10 mins and then shot them backwards without warning nearly tipping our dinners and drinks over us.

It did make me very cross - I just thought it was very impolite :sad2:

[terrynewpack]

Easiest answer would be if the airlines removed the recline option in economy and this would allow everyone in that class the same room.

I would vote for that given a chance.

Terry

[Scottish-Helen]

Sitting upright in Economy the whole way would be torture for everyone in those seats.

I never recline at mealtimes or on take off but once I get into the flight then I do so I can try and get some sleep. If everybody reclines then everybody is left with the same space they started off with, therefore what is the problem.

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[terrynewpack]

Sitting upright in Economy the whole way would be torture for everyone in those seats.

I never recline at mealtimes or on take off but once I get into the flight then I do so I can try and get some sleep. If everybody reclines then everybody is left with the same space they started off with, therefore what is the problem.

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If everbody reclines...........
But they don't and they don't all do it at the same time.
And it wouldn't be torture.

Terry

[Tiggernut_jadie]

Sorry but I do and WILL recline becasue I don't see why I should be uncomfortable for 9 hours+! I understand where people are coming from but I find it extremely uncomfatable to sit bolt upright for more than about 15 mins let alone 9 hours! I will sit up for meals, take off and when instructed to do so by the Stewards but if I'm just sitting there reading or watching the TV then I will recline. I do make sure that the person behind isn't eating etc but the seats are made to recline so I will do so. As others have said if I recline my seat and reduce the space ehind, then all that person has to do is recline too and their 'space' is returned to them.

As for the idea of stopping the economy class seats from reclining well hell why don't we go the whole hog and wedge us all in with shoe horns and provide catheters for everyone so no-one has to move at all. then we can all start mooing like the cattle class we are! :rolleyes: