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Terry S
08-17-2001, 09:21 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think 2 Queen Beds in some of the 1 Bedroom Villas would be nice? If they are worried about more than 4 people in the room just don't make the couch in the Living Room a pull out. My reasons our that first of all I don't want a studio, I want the advantage of the added room, the washer and dryer and the kitchen. But we are a family of 4 with 2 small kids. I don't want my kids in a separate room. I also think it is inconvienant to have to pull out the couch and put it back together everyday. My last reason is that a pull out is just not as comfortable as a bed. Does anyone else think this is a good idea or does it work okay having the pull-out? I am not yet a DVC member, I will be when BCV opens. Is there anywhere I could make this suggestion?

WDWMom
08-17-2001, 09:42 AM
I do agree with you on some points. Pull out beds are very uncomfortable, especially for adults. It would be nice to be able to put 4 adults comfortably in a 1 bedroom. As far as the kids, they could care less. Plus we all sleep better not in the same room. We don't sleep together at home, DH and I do not want to sleep with kids on vacation,

As for having only 4 in a room, I wish they would put 2 queens and a pull out in some 1 bedrooms. We are a family of five and a 2 bedroom is too big. Our kids are 10, 6, and 5. 6 and 5 yo are still small enough to sleep on the love seat comfortably. We have never done it and alway get a 2 bedroom, but we might just get a 1 bedroom for our March trip. Please, no lectures. I do not want this thread to start WW3. This is just my opinion.

brittsmum1998
08-17-2001, 10:08 AM
I also would like to see two queens/doubles even in the bedroom. We are a family of three, DD is only 3 yrs old. It would be nice to have her in her "own" bed in the room as opposed to sleeping in the king bed with us. Obviously we don't go nite nite at the same time she does and I also don't like to pull out the couch. Without adding to WW3;) I think it would really help those families of 5 w/ small children. If I was lucky enough to have more children, I wouldn't want to have to rent a two bedroom because of one small child.

Debby7
08-17-2001, 10:23 AM
Careful !! This thread sounds like it is headed for the debate board.

Muushka
08-17-2001, 11:06 AM
We (just 2 of us) really like the king sized bed. We sleep on one at home, and when we go on vacation, it is very hard to go to a queen size. However, I can understand why some families would like the 2 queens.

dianeschlicht
08-17-2001, 11:45 AM
If you want the kids to sleep in the room with you but like to use the living room when they are in bed, why not bring an airbed for them? We did that once when we had 2 small children along of opposite sexes who didn't want to sleep together. This was in a 2 bedroom, but we just put one in the bed and one on the airbed. Worked great, and we still got to use the living room when the kids were in bed.

normr
08-17-2001, 11:50 AM
I like the king for myself and DW, but I can see how some people don't want to let their children out of their sight and let them sleep in another room, Like you said, if they did put in the two queen beds, then they would also have to take out the sleeper sofa otherwise people would then start having 6 people in the room.

And what happens if you choose the one bedroom and there are not any of the type of bedrooms you are needing, (you want the king bed and there are none left)

I think in the name of conformity that it is bestthat all the one-bedrooms are all the same to prevent problems like I mention.

dianeschlicht
08-17-2001, 11:53 AM
Very good point, Normr

WebmasterDoc
08-17-2001, 12:22 PM
The layout of the master bedroom in the 1, 2 and 3BR villas is not really large enough to fit 2 queen beds, so unless DVC decides to design future resorts with this in mind, it's not likely to happen with the current resorts.

Those that would prefer a different room type may want to let DVD know of their desire for larger accommodations in future resorts. Perhaps they would consider this if enough requests are received.

Good Luck!

Terry S
08-17-2001, 12:33 PM
Doc, I guess that is what I was asking. Exactly who would I contact. I don't think the salesrep I have been dealing with would be. How about membership services. Is there a number for that? I not even sure since I am not a member yet if they would take a suggestion from me, but I could try.

LindaDVC
08-17-2001, 01:42 PM
If we were going to change the bedding I would prefer that OKW add the same arrangement at the other resorts. I would want the studio or second bedroom to have a couch and a bed rather than two beds.

It would be nice if you could ask for your preference!

Linda

Mary Ellen
08-17-2001, 04:32 PM
While I understand why you would like 2 queens, we're VERY happy with just the king.

BounceyOne
08-17-2001, 06:38 PM
I also find it odd that a studio and 1 bedroom sleep the same amount of people.
That is all I will say, as to not start a debate here.

WebmasterDoc
08-17-2001, 06:55 PM
Exactly who would I contact. I don't think the salesrep I have been dealing with would be. How about membership services.

Member Services would NOT be the place to make a suggestion about a future resort. Your vacation guide would likely be the best starting place to pass on information like this.

The design and layout (and occupancy) of the DVC resorts is consistant with most all other timeshare resorts. The fact that studios and 1BR's have the same occupancy is very normal for the industry. These decisions are not based on physical room size, but more on style and comfort for those who will use the facility.

Since most timeshares have traditionally been sold in 7 day blocks, the design reflects a comfortable living setting for a time period which sets it off from a typical motel room. These standards were carried over for DVC resorts ( after all it actually IS a timeshare).

Most timeshares have been sold as 2BR units. (Some can be used as a lock-off- like DVC). Again, the standards of the industry which DVC is a part of were used in the planning and design.

It is unlikely you find many (if any) other timeshares with 2 queens in the master bedroom (many don't even have the king- some have a double). DVC is at the top of the list with amenities provided.

Please contact your guide and see if he/she can suggest someone for you to contact about a different layout, but don't be surprised if your request doesn't get too far. The industry itself has looked at these same issues for years and the present format has served them well.

If there is a groundswell of support for a different design, I'm sure someone will create it to fill the need, but don't be surprised if that type of change is an uphill battle. Also, don't be surprised to find that your ideas represent those of a small minority. As I said above, the timeshare industry has looked at all of these issues for over 20 years now and concluded that the format in place serves their buyers the best.

Good Luck!

wdw1972
08-17-2001, 07:11 PM
Wow - interesting thread, and this topic is something I never pondered, lol!

Frankly, I can't imagine *wanting* your kids to sleep in the same room with you on vacation <g> - just as I never put my son in our bedroom at home! Vacations are a great time for some :::ahem::: privacy! For me part of the "home away from home" feel is that I'm not staying in a hotel room with 2 beds in the bedroom....I don't have a 2nd bed for anyone in my bedroom at home, and don't want one on vacation.

I have brought an inflatable matress & some sheets when I've booked a 1 br unit & had a guest using the sleep sofa. On those trips my son slept on the air mattress on the floor in my bedroom, and during the day we slid it under the bed.

We've always found the sleep sofa easier to make in the morning than a bed - just fold it up & put the cushions back on. No getting a bedspread lined up and lumps smoothed out under the sheets <g>. I don't imagine they're very comfortable, but since it's my dvc I don't have to worry about sleeping on it! None of my guests have commented that it was uncomfortable, except one person (who complained about just about everything on the only dvc trip she'll ever take).

If they did decide to add some 1br's with different bedding, I wouldn't care - as long as I would be able to specify a king bedroom when I book that size unit.

Terry S
08-17-2001, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the information. It was just a thought, I guess by the responses a bad one! I only wanted the kids in the same room as us for another couple years, they are 4 and 5 now. I was planning on buying enough points for a 2 bedroom anyway so that they could be in a seperate room when they get older without having to pull the living room sofa out everyday. Okay??? Is that a better idea?????

brittsmum1998
08-17-2001, 10:17 PM
I agree w/ you Terry, and I only have one child, DD who is 3. And we won't be adding to our family :( I still think the option would be a good idea and I would grab two beds in the master in a second!! If I want privacy :) there is always the living room or maybe the bathroom? ;) :p

Terry S
08-17-2001, 10:22 PM
Now that could be fun!

brittsmum1998
08-17-2001, 10:45 PM
It is! Trust me!! :p ;) :D :p ;) :D :p ;) :D

PKK/MJK
08-18-2001, 12:08 AM
In our particular situation, I really like the King size bed in the MBR and also the two queens in the 2nd bedroom. We have our two grown, married daughters on vacation with us frequently and they get the queen beds. A queen and a sofa bed would be more difficult for us--but I can see where a couple using a studio might prefer a bed and a sofa. I guess there is really no way to have accommodations that fit the individual needs of everyone.

Dean
08-18-2001, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by LindaDVC
If we were going to change the bedding I would prefer that OKW add the same arrangement at the other resorts. I would want the studio or second bedroom to have a couch and a bed rather than two beds.
Bite your tongue, most that have posted would prefer the other resorts to change back and I understand that the dedicated 2 BR units at WL have 2 queen beds in the second BR. I do see the advantage for some though.

RweTHEREyet
08-18-2001, 11:54 AM
I was delighted to be able to buy some of the last OKW points available. The reason I wanted OKW was 2 queens in the Studio. I don't like the other studios having 1 bed and 1 sleep sofa.

I also would prefer 2 beds in the 1 bedroom. It gives more flexibility. I don't want to place son on a sleeper sofa if I don't have to. That being said, I am trying to get 2 nights at BWV in October thru the waitlist, just to try them out. Still wish they had 2 beds in the Studio like OKW.

It would be nice if they had a mix at the new Eagle Pines, some king, some with 2 queens in the 1 bedroom. That way people would have a choice.

Just my preference.

Tigger1
08-19-2001, 08:32 AM
How about having the master bedroom as a studio for those who do not need the kichen living room and only want the kingbed and Jucuzzi. This would only sleep 2 of course.

Then make the one bedroom the former studio with 2 beds connect to the kitchen/living room.

Then those who need a room for 6 have it. Those whos familys have grown up can have a king bed and jucuzzi.

Flexability is one of the great things with DVC.

Tigger

CarolAnnC
08-19-2001, 09:15 AM
Most resort hotels have 2 queen or full beds in one room. Honestly, one of the reasons I joined DVC was the fact that there were separate sleeping accommdations in the 1 and 2 bedrooms where I could have my DD's sleeping separately. My children always slept in their own rooms at home, and I have no problem with a "home away from home" setup where they can have their own bedroom too. I love my privacy and prefer a little peace and quiet while relaxing on vacation! JMHO! :)

SwampFox
08-19-2001, 09:32 AM
Then those who need a room for 6 have it.

Great suggestions, Tigger1! ....But, what about those who need a room for 3 or 5 or 7 or 9? Do all of the villas have to be for an even number of guests?? :jester:

This would only sleep 2 of course.

Is that in addition to child under 3? :jester:



:D :D :D :rolleyes:

Dean
08-19-2001, 11:20 AM
Put yourself in the place of the resort. From a resort standpoint, the fewer choices the better. I can only imagine trying to match up to rooms at BW with the studio plus/reg studio, 1, 2 and 3 BR units, non smoking vs smoking and preferred vs standard views. What if the resort is full and a couple of rooms go off line because of a water leak. Then when you go to refurbish, more variables and again, more cost. It doesn't mean that choices of different type of rooms isn't workable just more difficult and in the end more expensive.

Tigger1
08-19-2001, 09:47 PM
Swampfox

Of course if you have 5 they could go in a room for 6 or more. As the present set-up 5 have to go in a 2-bedroom and there may be only 2 in a studio that holds 4.


I think that the number per room has alot to do with how many beds there is.

If they put a queen and a single bed in the bedroom it could be for just 5 or less
As far as the child under three, a portable crib bed is always in the closet for the young ones.

Myself, I like the privacy of the 2-bed when my whole family is with me.
If It was just me and the girls I would prefer the 2 beds and a living room.

I think dean is right that too many chooses would create to many disappointments if what we wanted was not available. For instance, studio plus and garden views at BWV are so hard to get.

Tigger

rbuzzotta
08-20-2001, 12:01 PM
I enjoy the King size bed in the MBR. That is what we sleep on at home and are used to it. When we went over to St. Pete beach our last trip we had to sleep in a double!!!!!!!!! OUCH!! My DD's like to sleep on the sleep sofa and my youngest loves the portable play pen.

Now, my youngest is now 3 so we must upgrade to the 2 BR. My only concern is not be guarenteed a "dedicated" 2 BR. I am fearful that they could get out of a lock-out 2 BR and it makes me a little nervous them being so far away. At home they all have their own rooms but they are closer to my room then they will be in a 2 BR unit and I can call or qickly get to them if needed. With the 2 BR at OKW....it is a little bit of a distance....plus the fact that they will definetly fool around alot and not get any sleep!!!

Yeah, I wish we could be in the 1 BR until my 3 year old at least turns 5 but.........rules are rules..............just my 2 cents.

mickey7861
08-20-2001, 10:39 PM
After our last trip my DH and I wondered the same thing. Why aren't the 1 bdr units open for 6? That would help the families of 5 or 6 to reduce their point cost. There seem to be alot of families of 5 trying to squeeze into the 1 bdr. It seems that since the studios are for 4, the 2 bedrooms hold 8, and the 3 bedrooms hold 12, the 1 bdr should be available for 6.

Lisa F
08-21-2001, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by wdw1972
If they did decide to add some 1br's with different bedding, I wouldn't care - as long as I would be able to specify a king bedroom when I book that size unit.

The problem with having two kinds of units is that someone will always be stuck with a unit that they don't want. Everytime we go on vacation, we request a king bed and at Disney, we only have that request met maybe 10% of the time. By "opening the door" for 2 queen sized beds in the current master bedrooms of DVC units I am afraid that the same thing would happen. I hate how crowded 2 queen sized beds feels in a single bedroom (though I love the studios that have one queen and a pull out couch because it doesn't feel crowded) and I consider a king bed to be part of the luxury of splurging on a 1 bedroom.

That said, I don't care if they implement that with future resorts, I just won't stay there ;-) but I don't think they can (or should) change the layouts of the current resorts.

Lisa