Buying tickets on ebay

[Shagley]

Okay, I am not going to be buying my tickets from ebay (that is too much $$ for me to spend over ebay - I'm not THAT trusting), but when I was looking on ebay for fun, someone had listed...

2 Magic Your Way Premium Tickets with two days left on each on them. THESE TICKETS ARE ONLY VALID UNTIL MONDAY APRIL 18, 2005. I will overnight these tickets to the winning bidder the day the auction ends. These are Magic Your Way Premium Tickets which were originally seven day passes, which we used 5 days.

The ticket entitles you to admission to the following theme parks for 2 days with the ability to visit multiple Theme Parks on the same day. Each day the ticket is used at any theme park constitutes one full day of use, and both days must be used by Monday April 18, 2005.

Magic Kingdom Park ~ Disney-MGM Studios ~ Disney’s Animal Kingdom Theme Park ~ Epcot

This ticket also includes one visit to one of the following: Disney’s Blizzard Beach ~ Disney’s Typoon Lagoon ~ Downtown Disney Pleasure Island ~ DisneyQuest ~ Disney’s Wide World Of Sports Complex.

E-mail me if you have any questions. This auction is for 2 tickets/passes.


Since I knew that with the Magic Your Way passes, each person gets their finger scanned, I e-mailed the seller to see how he could resell these. His reply was...

Dear shagley,

They do scan your fingers, but I was told that it was only to prevent same day use. They scan your fingers for each day, since the passes can be used multiple times a day. They don't want people entering the park, then sending one person out of the park to let more people in with the passes. This is what disney told me. If it were a problem, and my information is wrong, I would issue a full refund, along with shipping. Thanks.


I think the winning bid was $105.00. I was just curious as to what others thing. I figured that because of the finger scan, only one person could use the tickets. Am I wrong? I am afraid that someone is going to get to WDW and be very disappointed when they try to enter with these tickets. What does everyone else think?

[BethR]

I figured that because of the finger scan, only one person could use the tickets. You are right and unfortunately the winner will be a loser. :(

[Missy1961]

I agree with you. That's what I understood about the tickets, only one person could use them.

[Missy1961]

You are right and unfortunately the winner will be a loser. :(

Took me too long to post! That was what I thought. I figured that Disney was getting annoyed about the ebay sales. I'm sure most were legit, but there were a few fraudulent ones too, I bet. I feel bad for the "winner" but they really should be more aware.

[SueM in MN]

I went to ebay to look for the sale, but it's not in the completed items, so I wonder if ebay deleted the auction.
We just got back from WDW on 4/11 and saw one family get sent to Guest Services from the turnstiles because their finger scans didn't match and they did not have ID.
Another family got turned away because they had 2 tickets with 2 days on each ticket and were trying to get 4 people in with those same 2 tickets. Wooow, was that guy ever mad.

[marriedmarylander]

There are a couple other auction in the title it says "Magic Your Way" but in the auction description does not say that. They could just me older tickets and the people put the title as a catch phrase.

I'm wondering are people allowed to buy MYW tickets and sell them as long as they haven't been used at all?

[marriedmarylander]

Dear shagley,

They do scan your fingers, but I was told that it was only to prevent same day use. They scan your fingers for each day, since the passes can be used multiple times a day. They don't want people entering the park, then sending one person out of the park to let more people in with the passes. This is what disney told me. If it were a problem, and my information is wrong, I would issue a full refund, along with shipping. Thanks.



So the person would have to get all the way to the park and figure this out themselves! Crazy!!!

Also isn't your name on ticket? I thought your name is on it for some reason... Or it's tied to your room key if you stay on the resort.

[Shagley]

I'm not sure if you can look up an item after the auction is over, but the auction was...
2 Disney Premium 2 Day Passes/Tickets Disney World
Item number: 6524563510

I am able to see it because I had it as one of the auctions that I was watching in My Ebay. It looks like the auction ended as scheduled, and the winning bidder will pay $105.00 plus $12.00 S&H for worthless tickets. The seller did tell me when I emailed him that if they didn't work, he would refund the money - but that wasn't listed in the item listing. Hopefully he mentioned that to the buyer, so it won't come as a suprise to them when they are turned away at the gate. Maybe $117.00 isn't a lot of money to some people, but it is enough for me that I would at least research the item before I bid on it.

[Shagley]

Do you think I should send an email to the winning bidder to tell him that we think the tickets probably won't work, or should I just mind my own business :confused3 ? I don't want to butt in where it isn't my business, but if it was me, I would appreciate if someone at least let me know if they thought I might encounter a problem. I though maybe I would just tell them what we have discussed on the board here and tell them to call Disney to be sure?

****Actually, I just noticed that the tickets expire April 18th, and the seller was going to overnight the tickets to the buyer. I am probably too late to warn the buyer anyway!

[marriedmarylander]

I found the auction.
Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6524563510

I can't believe 20 people bid on them. Well I guess if you bid $20 and happen to win them that's one thing, but over $100! And you know if it was a 7 day ticket they paid what? Like $280 or something like that? And they buyer paid about $105... so they only paid $180 or something for 5 days use.

For some reason I thought they had your name associated with the ticket. Because I heard sometimes the biometric scan might fail but if you show your ID and it matches they are OK with that.

[va32h]

Do you think I should send an email to the winning bidder to tell him that we think the tickets probably won't work, or should I just mind my own business

This would be considered auction interference, and is an ebay violation. If the buyer reports it to ebay - or tells the seller and they report it to ebay - then you will end up in trouble.

[cruzin2paradise]

I wonder (and please keep in mind that I am not Ebay savy) if one couldn't notify Ebay about WDW ticket rules with the finger scanning so they can monitor the fraud that is about to hit the fan?

[SueM in MN]

I wonder (and please keep in mind that I am not Ebay savy) if one couldn't notify Ebay about WDW ticket rules with the finger scanning so they can monitor the fraud that is about to hit the fan?
The auction can be reported to ebay. It is against ebay rules to list partially used tickets. That's why when you see tickets that are obviously multiday tickets, they are not saying they are selling the 2 days they have left out of a 7 day ticket. Most of the time, they will say it is a 2 day ticket (even if the printing on the ticket in the picture says its more than that). Ebay can cancel the auction/sale if it is for a prohibited item.
That's why I thought the auction was gone when I couldn't find it (I don't know why it didn't show up because I searched for "Magic Your Way" in both the title and description.

[DMRick]

Doesn't sound good. I did notice that they are not making people sign their tickets, so it's possible these have not been signed. If that is the case, then if the bio's don't work, they will ask (they are suppose to, often they just hit a button and the gate opens) for your ID. They will then make you sign the ticket and from then out it's yours. I wouldn't take a chance on this type of ticket. I have bought and sold the old hoppers, on eBaym and it's legal do do so in NY, as long as I didn't sell to someone in Florida, but this is really taking a big chance.

[Miss Kelly]

Doesn't sound good. I did notice that they are not making people sign their tickets, so it's possible these have not been signed. If that is the case, then if the bio's don't work, they will ask (they are suppose to, often they just hit a button and the gate opens) for your ID. They will then make you sign the ticket and from then out it's yours. I wouldn't take a chance on this type of ticket. I have bought and sold the old hoppers, on eBaym and it's legal do do so in NY, as long as I didn't sell to someone in Florida, but this is really taking a big chance.

I'm curious to why it is illegal to sell tickets to Florida residents? I've noticed this on many auctions and I just wondering what the deal was. Thanks!! :sunny:

[SueM in MN]

I'm curious to why it is illegal to sell tickets to Florida residents? I've noticed this on many auctions and I just wondering what the deal was. Thanks!! :sunny:
The tickets say on them that they are non-transferable and are to be used by the same person for every and all days. Since this is a Florida law, some people interpret it to mean that if you sell the tickets in Florida, you are breaking the law, but if you are selling them outside of Florida, it's not illegal.
But, whatever you think if you sell or buy them, they do say on them that they are non-transferable and that Disneey has the right to revoke them. So, if you show up with partially used tickets and Disney finds out, they are within their rights to take the tickets and you are out the money you paid.

[Toni300z]

I was there this past weekend, and when you enter Magic Kingdom area where the Monorails and ferry boats are they were CM's telling you to hold out your ticket and make sure you sign them. I was like wow. I kept walking because I had old 3 day Hoppers that I got off of EBAY for 181. The lady who sold them had legit tickets. Worked for my frined and I.
Here are her listings and she had tons of positive feeback for her ticket sales. She now has 4 day Hoppers as well.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjiminyQ2atickets

[DMRick]

[QUOTE=SueM in MN] Since this is a Florida law, some people interpret it to mean that if you sell the tickets in Florida, you are breaking the law, but if you are selling them outside of Florida, it's not illegal.
[QUOTE]
I'm talking about the actual FL law..not what Disney puts on the tickets (non transferable). If you sell tix on eBay, there is a whole list, by state of actual law. It is not illegal in most states to resell tickets..however, some states have laws about how much you can sell them for over the actual price, some have laws about used tickets, etc. I wasn't referring to the "rules" of contract Disney put on the tix, which you haven't gotten to read before you buy.
The tix are suppose to be signed now, but we noticed that even though there were places for people to take the time to sign them, and a cm was telling them too, it wasn't being enforced for those who didn't. Sort of like when they asked for tix to be shown for early morn hours where you catch the monorail and boat (not room keys, which I thought was odd), and I held out my AP folder, without realizing, it was empty, and I had put the actual AP elsewhere.
I use an AP, so it doesn't affect me..but there are some legitimate, allowed sellers on eBay right along with the bad sellers, so as with anything on eBay, it's buyer beware and be careful.

[Alicnwondrln]

umm i find this interesting
i was there in sept 2004
we had 5 day tickets
we used 3 days i gave them to my neighbor she used them fine i didnt ask for for any money
so this finger thing is that only with ap's ?
i saw people scanning there but is this with all tickets now

[marriedmarylander]

umm i find this interesting
i was there in sept 2004
we had 5 day tickets
we used 3 days i gave them to my neighbor she used them fine i didnt ask for for any money
so this finger thing is that only with ap's ?
i saw people scanning there but is this with all tickets now

The new tickets started this year, so last year was still the old way I believe.

[SueM in MN]

[QUOTE=SueM in MN] Since this is a Florida law, some people interpret it to mean that if you sell the tickets in Florida, you are breaking the law, but if you are selling them outside of Florida, it's not illegal.
[QUOTE]
I'm talking about the actual FL law..not what Disney puts on the tickets (non transferable). If you sell tix on eBay, there is a whole list, by state of actual law. It is not illegal in most states to resell tickets..however, some states have laws about how much you can sell them for over the actual price, some have laws about used tickets, etc. I wasn't referring to the "rules" of contract Disney put on the tix, which you haven't gotten to read before you buy.
The tix are suppose to be signed now, but we noticed that even though there were places for people to take the time to sign them, and a cm was telling them too, it wasn't being enforced for those who didn't. Sort of like when they asked for tix to be shown for early morn hours where you catch the monorail and boat (not room keys, which I thought was odd), and I held out my AP folder, without realizing, it was empty, and I had put the actual AP elsewhere.
I use an AP, so it doesn't affect me..but there are some legitimate, allowed sellers on eBay right along with the bad sellers, so as with anything on eBay, it's buyer beware and be careful.
This is the ebay page about restrictions on the sale of event tickets (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/event-tickets.html) (which is the category Disney tickets are in, according to ebay). You have to look at both parts of the table to see the restrictions for Florida, not just the top part. The bottom part indicates no sale of multi day tickets that have been used at least once.
And from the ebay page about contracts and tickets (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/contracts.html), it says "Some items, such as airline tickets, have terms printed on the item that may limit your ability to sell that item. " So, what Disney prints on the tickets is relevant to whether or not they can be sold.
It doesn't affect me either since we have APs, but I have seen people whose tickets didn't work and they lost the tickets and money when they couldn't prove the partially used tickets belonged to them.

[SueM in MN]

umm i find this interesting
i was there in sept 2004
we had 5 day tickets
we used 3 days i gave them to my neighbor she used them fine i didnt ask for for any money
so this finger thing is that only with ap's ?
i saw people scanning there but is this with all tickets now
The new tickets started this year.
I think they rolled out Jan 2. I know the start date was during the time DH and I were at WDW for New Years.
We didn't pay attention because we had APs, but we saw the signs.

[DMRick]

This is the ebay page about
And from the ebay page about [URL=http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/contracts.html]contracts and tickets (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/event-tickets.html), it says "Some items, such as airline tickets, have terms printed on the item that may limit your ability to sell that item.

Yes, thank you, I understand about the FL law, and I also understand about contracts, and that you have to be aware of them and accept them in advance. I'm suprprised that when the tickets are sold that they don't have something come up first, before you buy, that says you understand you are entering into a contract, etc. Because they don't, that is why eBay has not stopped these sales based on contracts. What I find even more interesting, is that one person who did have her auction shut down, because she was reported, actually went one on one with eBay and it was determined that these were not "event" tickets, which really through a mix into it. Her auctions are back up, and she's been selling tickets for sometime. Of course it's hard to tell if they are used multiday tickets, since that's not always mentioned. I just wonder where she gets all these tickets. My sales have been a very occasional leftover, and it's been awhile, since I now like to collect the odd days we have on the old tickets, in case we go in the parks with someone and need a one day ticket.
I've personally not known anyone who has had a problem with the tix not working. I've heard about someone's cousin's, aunts, sisters, etc, or that someone saw "someone" turned away from the turnstiles, but I've never known anyone myself, and you are actually the first person I know who actually knows the person/s it happened to. But even that said, it's something I would do with caution, and make sure it's even a deal..it seldom is...which is why I can't even figure out why people buy them on line.

[ilocanosc]

poor guy.... you'd think people shopping at ebay are savvy enough to get the important information before they actually bid on something.

[Trixiezzz]

I'm wondering are people allowed to buy MYW tickets and sell them as long as they haven't been used at all?


I'm wondering this, too. I know someone who bought BRAND NEW tickets from Ticketmania. Then after he received them had one person back out of going on the trip.

Can he now sell that one NEW, never-used ticket on eBay to keep the 1 ticket from going to waste. (I told him he could, but am now not so sure???)

Would they have his name printed on them already? I haven't seen them.