PLease say it isn't so

[Merandab4]

I'm sorry to even post this but I just had to know.....
My DH tells me that Disney has Dabbled in the porn industry in the past. Is this true? I think that he just tells me this just to burst my bubble about Disney because I love it so much. To me Disney has ment nothing but innocence. I would hate to believe this is true, but DH keeps insisting it is true. Please tell me it isn't so!

[AllyBri]

Tell hubby, that April Fools is not for another week. :rolleyes2

:earsgirl: :earsboy:

[grinningghost]

Actually, I read that it did. I'm forgetting right now what book it was, but I did read a book not too long ago that talked about it.

[Plus4206]

I thought I read some blurb years ago about one of Disney's acquisitions including the movie company or cable channel "Eros" ???? or something along those lines. Disney quickly divested itself of whatever it was.

Couple years ago the preshow teaser for a 60 Minutes/ 20/20 type news show was ranting about GM being in the porn business. Sounded very dramatic, but all it was about was one of their spinoff companies -maybe Direct TV- offering a porn station with certain subscription packages.

[WDWHound]

I cant remember the specifics, but I believe Plus4206 pretty much has it right. If I recall correctly, Disney aquired the company unintentionally as part of another trasaction and move very quickly to get rid of it.

[jazstar87]

the company already show this kind of stuff just watch aladdin, or the little mermaid.

[Cruella DeVille]

I remember something of this nature coming up before in the past and the safety blanket Disney had was uncovered. I'm not going to believe it but it's more than likely true...

[Donald's#1Fan]

I remember something of this nature coming up before in the past and the safety blanket Disney had was uncovered. I'm not going to believe it but it's more than likely true...

HUH???? Just because someone says it doesn't make it true, where are the FACTS, that's right fact's will make me believe something as being true or false, otherwise it's just slander.

[Luv2Roam]

The information is covered in the book, "Disney the Mouse Betrayed."

[Cruella DeVille]

HUH???? Just because someone says it doesn't make it true, where are the FACTS, that's right fact's will make me believe something as being true or false, otherwise it's just slander.

Let's look at three of my personel favorite movies...

In the Little Mermaid [the original] the statue that Ariel would admire Eric on was shaped like the male... manhood.

In Snow White [the original] the dwarves noses and eyes were seen at the foot of Snow Whites bed, indicating that they were watching her as she slept, not a good sign. Can you say peeping tom?

The Lion King [the original] as Simba and Nala are playing in the leaves, when the leaves settle it spells out the word "SEX".

now the original simply means before the newer versions were made, either DVD or VHS...

Three prime examples, need I go on?

[tifandjim]

The information is covered in the book, "Disney the Mouse Betrayed."


Yes!! My friend who lives in Orlando (and is not a big fan of Disney) suggested that I read this book. There are quite a few interesting (for lack of a better work, maybe disturbing) pieces of information in there!

[grinningghost]

The information is covered in the book, "Disney the Mouse Betrayed."

Yes - that's the book I read.

[robyn323]

Wow now I have to read that book. Never knew that stuff.

[Moobooks]

Enough with the fantasizing of conservative right-wing Christians.
This entire thread is a load of horsepoop.
Anyone who is determined to find images of male members and words they consider "dirty" in imagery like clouds is going to find something to complain about. It's a lot of crap. Disney has never made porn movies, never will make porn movies.
End of story.
Find something interesting to discuss.

[marypops!]

they have hidden things in movies
one i find disturbing (which was put in during post production) was the rescuers during the flying scene there ;are two scenes where there is a topless woman (no bra either)

[Distriv]

Let's look at three of my personel favorite movies...

In the Little Mermaid [the original] the statue that Ariel would admire Eric on was shaped like the male... manhood.

In Snow White [the original] the dwarves noses and eyes were seen at the foot of Snow Whites bed, indicating that they were watching her as she slept, not a good sign. Can you say peeping tom?

The Lion King [the original] as Simba and Nala are playing in the leaves, when the leaves settle it spells out the word "SEX".

now the original simply means before the newer versions were made, either DVD or VHS...

Three prime examples, need I go on?

http://www.snopes.com/disney/disney.asp

[Cruella DeVille]

So then let's look at the facts that are stated rather than the myths:

Disney produced an animated film called The Story of Menstruation.

Photographic images of a topless woman can be spotted in The Rescuers. Sound familar?
http://www.snopes.com/disney/info/rescue1.htm

Lemmings were induced into jumping off a cliff for this Disney nature film.

One of the castle spires on the cover of Disney's The Little Mermaid home video was deliberately drawn as a phallus by a disgruntled artist.
http://i.xanga.com/CrapMagazine/mermaid%20*****%20cover.jpg

The letters S-E-X are formed by a swirling cloud of dust in The Lion King.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lionking.htm

In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.

In a talking Lion King book, Rafiki chants, "Squashed bananas up your ****." - It is said that the tracks ran together and formed this, why would it just "accidently" form such a disgusting phrase?

Again just a few, true, rumors...

[C.Ann]

I must be the most unobservant person on the planet! I've been a Disney fan for many, many years and never noticed any of this stuff.. :confused3

[Plus4206]

***"Enough with the fantasizing of conservative right-wing Christians.
This entire thread is a load of horsepoop. "***

As a conservative right-wing Christian I'm curious how you became an expert on horsepoop ?

***"Anyone who is determined to find images of male members and words they consider "dirty" in imagery like clouds is going to find something to complain about."***

Did you look at the "Rescuers" cell ? Is that something us Christians fantasized about ? Pretty hard to misinterprete..... wouldn't you agree ?

*** " It's a lot of crap. Disney has never made porn movies, never will make porn movies."***

I agree. I'm certain Disney never MADE porn, but I know there was a brief connection years ago. Maybe if DancingBear gets a chance he can use his great research skills and bring us the facts.

Just as a side note: In HM, one of the singing busts in the library always remind DW and I of Richard Cranium.

[Laurajean1014]

Let's look at three of my personel favorite movies...

In the Little Mermaid [the original] the statue that Ariel would admire Eric on was shaped like the male... manhood.

In Snow White [the original] the dwarves noses and eyes were seen at the foot of Snow Whites bed, indicating that they were watching her as she slept, not a good sign. Can you say peeping tom?

The Lion King [the original] as Simba and Nala are playing in the leaves, when the leaves settle it spells out the word "SEX".

Three prime (evil) examples, need I go on?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

So tired of hear about the "mouse" gone wrong! Please don't! :sad2: :rolleyes2

[Laurajean1014]

In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.


So, does this mean that if teenagers have sex, they will make babies, who will then be taken to WDW and the parents will buy a ticket (entry) a balloon and a mickey ice cream? Is this the diabolical plot that Disney has been conjuring up since I was a pup?

:scratchin

[Laurajean1014]

In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.


So, does this mean that if teenagers have sex, they will make babies, who will then be taken to WDW and the parents will buy a ticket (entry) a balloon and a mickey ice cream? Is this the diabolical plot that Disney has been conjuring up since I was a pup?

:scratchin

[grinningghost]

Enough with the fantasizing of conservative right-wing Christians.
This entire thread is a load of horsepoop.
Anyone who is determined to find images of male members and words they consider "dirty" in imagery like clouds is going to find something to complain about. It's a lot of crap. Disney has never made porn movies, never will make porn movies.
End of story.
Find something interesting to discuss.

While I agree that some people do over analyze things and make something out of nothing, I don't see how you can say that this isn't an interesting discussion.

[peter11435]

So then let's look at the facts that are stated rather than the myths:

Disney produced an animated film called The Story of Menstruation.

It was an educational film, nothing more. Disney is famous for producing hundreds of educational films for schools, this is just one of them.

The letters S-E-X are formed by a swirling cloud of dust in The Lion King.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lionking.htm

This is not true. The letters are SFX and were placed there by the special effects department that animated the swirling cloud.

In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.

This is also not true. You only hear that because that is what you are looking to hear.

In a talking Lion King book, Rafiki chants, "Squashed bananas up your ****." - It is said that the tracks ran together and formed this, why would it just "accidently" form such a disgusting phrase?

Check your facts

[tink&cinderella]

the company already show this kind of stuff just watch aladdin, or the little mermaid.


GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

Really!!! I can't believe anyone would leap to such ideas. Perhaps those that feel that way have questionable motives. UNBELIEVABLE

tink&cinderella

[Merandab4]

I appologize if my post has caused such a contravorsy.

I know we've all hear about all the little "OOPSIES" in the Disney Cartoons, and that is in no way what I was talking about when I asked the question about Disney being associated with porn. I do however believe the posters who mentioned something about one of the channels that Disney is associated with having something to do with porn. That is more along the lines of what I was looking for.

By the way...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruella DeVille
In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.


Peter replied...
This is also not true. You only hear that because that is what you are looking to hearsays "teenagers, take off your clothes"

I am not arguing this one way or another but I just wanted to know what the phrase is suppose to say.

[Plus4206]

....at the top of this page Distriv posted a link to snopes.com. It will answer your question. It's a very informative site.

[crusader]

One of the castle spires on the cover of Disney's The Little Mermaid home video was deliberately drawn as a phallus by a disgruntled artist.

Anyone disputing this?

[DisneyMomOfThree]

Let's look at three of my personel favorite movies...

In the Little Mermaid [the original] the statue that Ariel would admire Eric on was shaped like the male... manhood.

In Snow White [the original] the dwarves noses and eyes were seen at the foot of Snow Whites bed, indicating that they were watching her as she slept, not a good sign. Can you say peeping tom?

The Lion King [the original] as Simba and Nala are playing in the leaves, when the leaves settle it spells out the word "SEX".

now the original simply means before the newer versions were made, either DVD or VHS...

Three prime examples, need I go on?
You remind me of a friend that said Scooby Doo and Shaggy were always doped up that is why they eat all the time.

[Hippychickali]

You remind me of a friend that said Scooby Doo and Shaggy were always doped up that is why they eat all the time.

Ummm....there are more people than your friend who say this.

I don't think you have to read into things to see that Disney is not "innocent". I'm not talking about seeing things written in the clouds of animated films or playing the soundtrack at a slow speed to hear a cartoon character say something inappropriate. There are very blatant examples of Disney being, well, unDisneylike. One that comes to mind is a short animation starring Donald Duck that was produced during WWII as military propoganda. Nothing like a gun-totin' duck to say Disney!

Ali

[Plus4206]

A Patriotic Donald during WWII is as All American Disney as it gets.

[Hippychickali]

A Patriotic Donald during WWII is as All American Disney as it gets.

All-American yes but innocent no.

Ali

[Plus4206]

Then I guess you don't like PotC, Frontier Shooting Gallery or Buzz Lightyear.

[Hippychickali]

Then I guess you don't like PotC, Frontier Shooting Gallery or Buzz Lightyear.

Hang on a second! I didn't say I had a problem with Disney not being innocent. I was simply pointing out to the OP that you don't need to connect Disney to porn for it to not be innocent....it isn't for all kinds of other reasons.

Ali

[Plus4206]

but just because Disney turned its attention to the war effort during WWII doesn't mean they lost their innocence. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.

[Hippychickali]

but just because Disney turned its attention to the war effort during WWII doesn't mean they lost their innocence. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.

Oh dear. Did I offend you by laughing at gun-totin' Donald? Give me a break. Going off to war has been traditionally been seen as a lose of innocence, if you wanna get all philosophical about it.

Ali

[Hippychickali]

If anyone is curious, check out Donald Duck vs. the Axis of Evil (http://www.encyclopedia-obscura.com/movieswar.html). Don't forget to buy your war bonds and pay your taxes. Check out the cameo by Scrouge McDuck! :rotfl:

Ali

[YoHo]

At the risk of fueling the utterly ridiculous fire, if you read Disney War, it confirms that the Animators were certainly NOT above a little gutteral baser humor. Often at the expense of managment. (Eisner & Katzenberg) This stuff didn't make it on film, just little doodles done internally, but still.

[Hippychickali]

At the risk of fueling the utterly ridiculous fire

::yes:: It's not as if sweet and innocent ol' Disney can do no wrong. :wizard:

Ali

[YoHo]

no, it certainly isn't, and they've done more wrong then right in the recent past, but come on. with a few exceptions like that Rescuers frames (2 of them that you never see unless you know they are there and go through frame by frame.) most of this stuff is absolutly false as pointed out by Snopes. despite that fact, the rumors are still being perpetuated here.

What's next, the dreaded WDW serves Emu not Turkey Rumor that was actually a joke started here that some people actually believe is true?

[Plus4206]

Ali, you did not offend me whatsoever. I just think that Disney's contribution to the war effort was the greatest thing they've ever done.

[Hippychickali]

Ali, you did not offend me whatsoever. I just think that Disney's contribution to the war effort was the greatest thing they've ever done.

Personally I think it was Aladdin but whatever floats your boat. :rolleyes:

Ali

[poutytink]

I have read the book you are refering to, and Disney OWNED a porn pay-per-view channel called "Spice". They also owned shares in a company that made porn movies. Disney did not actually make the movies,, but they profited from them. They also owned shares in a record company that made Satanic heavy metal music. Personally I like heavy metal...but not the type that this company made, ex: references made to killing parents and blood rituals. Definately not normal stuff.

[WDW_DV]

So then let's look at the facts that are stated rather than the myths:

Disney produced an animated film called The Story of Menstruation.

Photographic images of a topless woman can be spotted in The Rescuers. Sound familar?
http://www.snopes.com/disney/info/rescue1.htm

Lemmings were induced into jumping off a cliff for this Disney nature film.

One of the castle spires on the cover of Disney's The Little Mermaid home video was deliberately drawn as a phallus by a disgruntled artist.
http://i.xanga.com/CrapMagazine/mermaid%20*****%20cover.jpg

The letters S-E-X are formed by a swirling cloud of dust in The Lion King.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lionking.htm

In the film Aladdin, the hero whispers, "Good teenagers, take off your clothes." - This can be heard, when Aladdin is attacked by Rajah, watch the film again.


In a talking Lion King book, Rafiki chants, "Squashed bananas up your ****." - It is said that the tracks ran together and formed this, why would it just "accidently" form such a disgusting phrase?

Again just a few, true, rumors...

Amazing that in using snopes to back up some claims that are true (e.g. the unfortunate lemmings), you completely ignored the links on snopes debunking your claims regarding Rafiki ( http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/rafiki.htm), Aladdin( http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.htm), and the Little Mermaid cover art ( http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/mermaid.htm)...

What's even more incredible - in an amazing coincidence, the text you used to highlight these rumors is the same - word for word - as the headlines on these snopes web pages...

So all you really have is the two frames in the Rescuers, the SFX/SEX confusion in the Lion King (labelled as unconfirmed by snopes), and the lemmings (which is unfortunate but not sexual and therefore not pertinent to the issue of whether Disney did porn), and an educational short on women's health.

Yeah, that settles the issue alright... :sad2:

If you want to argue a point, please do so with a shred of intelligence and integrity.

[Cruella DeVille]

I'd like everyone to know that unlike WDW_DV, I do not obsess over pages and pages of Disney information because I am not one to waste my time. I merely saw the headlines and linked them back here, and I'm sorry if you have nothing better to do in your sad little life than follow behind me and check to see if information is accurate, but hey it's not my fault.

Now, on the other note, I love Disney and would never think for a second that they did these things on purpose. And contrary to most on this boards belief, no I am not looking for sexual clues in movies. I was merely trying to help argue a point that didn't come across clearly here is what it was:

Disney is not perverted, though people however are...

This explains why something of such nature would be ut in a film...

[Mickmse2002]

Wow. That's all I have to say.

[WDW_DV]

I'd like everyone to know that unlike WDW_DV, I do not obsess over pages and pages of Disney information because I am not one to waste my time. I merely saw the headlines and linked them back here, and I'm sorry if you have nothing better to do in your sad little life than follow behind me and check to see if information is accurate, but hey it's not my fault.

Now, on the other note, I love Disney and would never think for a second that they did these things on purpose. And contrary to most on this boards belief, no I am not looking for sexual clues in movies. I was merely trying to help argue a point that didn't come across clearly here is what it was:

Disney is not perverted, though people however are...

This explains why something of such nature would be ut in a film...

I apologize for being a bit rude, but the point is still this: You appear to have cut and pasted the text from the Snopes pages that proved the rumors false, but then claimed the rumors were in fact true. What's up with that?

[DannyDisneyFreak]

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp

[Hippychickali]

Why do people get so unconformtable at the thought of Disney acting controversial? I enjoy going to WDW but where does this need that some people have with defending Disney to the death come from? Are they paying you or something?

Ali

[MrsKreamer]

Ummm....there are more people than your friend who say this.

I don't think you have to read into things to see that Disney is not "innocent". I'm not talking about seeing things written in the clouds of animated films or playing the soundtrack at a slow speed to hear a cartoon character say something inappropriate. There are very blatant examples of Disney being, well, unDisneylike. One that comes to mind is a short animation starring Donald Duck that was produced during WWII as military propoganda. Nothing like a gun-totin' duck to say Disney!

Ali

Actually Disney doing things for the War effort are very "Disney-like", considering Walt himself joined the armed forces of WWI at a very young age. WDW only giving park discounts would probably make Walt :rolleyes:

[Hippychickali]

Actually Disney doing things for the War effort are very "Disney-like", considering Walt himself joined the armed forces of WWI at a very young age.

My example had little to do about a company supporting the war effort and more to do with a cartoon duck urging us to pay our taxes and toting a rifle. Call me kooky but it doesn't fit up there with pixie dust and other happy thoughts.

Ali