More Bad News For TimeKeeper

[WDWHound]

The following quote is lifted from Screamscape.com:

"If they ever want to reopen Timekeeper, it looks like they will have to kick out Buzz and friends. Rumor has it that the lobby area of Timekeeper will be turned into a Buzz Lightyear Meet & Greet area. "

Sigh.... If this is true, it looks like we will have lost another attraction with nothing to replace it (I don't consider a meet and great area an attaction). Timekeeper was not my favorite attraction and I realize it just wasn't drawing the crowds anymore, but surely they could do something more creative with a circlevision theater than this! Oops, sorry I forgot, that would cost them money.

[hawkalum]

I agree. Timekeeper was not something I ran to get on, but it was neat and entertaining and very cool (temp wise) inside.

[space42]

bad show!


This is so sad. Another lost attraction. At least they could have replaced it with another circle-vision movie or something. Anything is better than nothing. I too do not consider a "meet and great" an attraction.

Its kind of funny that they used to have this opened for E-Ride nights. Was circle vision even an E-Ticket when the ticket system was still used?

It seems strange that they closed it right before the busy summer season. Even though the attraction did not draw huge crowds, it was a nice air conditioned attraction for those HOT summer days.

Can we please have some good news or rumors now?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[DVC-Landbaron]

Was circle vision even an E-Ticket when the ticket system was still used? It was FREE!! It was one of the three rides (attractions) in the park that were free (because they were sponsored). Circle-vision, If You Had Wings/Dreamflight and CoP!!

[JeffH]

I also believe that Hall of Presidents was free as well (as was the Walt Disney Story)

[WDWHound]

I remember the Hall of Presidents as an E-ticket, but I could be wrong.

[DVC-Landbaron]

Ahh! You refresh my memory!!I also believe that Hall of Presidents was free as well (as was the Walt Disney Story)Yes!! The Walt Disney Story was definitely free. (Hey, who got rid of that anyway?)

But the Hall of Presidents was free only during the bicentennial. All other time you had to use (waste) an "E" ticket!!

[WDWHound]

Aw Gee, I liked the Hall of Presidents. But then I am an animatronics junkie. At least they have chosen to rehab this attraction, unlike what they seem to be ready to do to Timekeeper.

[JeffH]

Thanks, DVC I thought I remember it being free (at some point).
But (oh, bother) all this thinking made me remember that the Diamond Horseshoe Review was also free.

[Jackie H.]

What was in the original circle vision? I mean what was the movie about? It has been so long I can't remember it! THere is a website to revisit long gone Disney attractions, what is that website?

[DVC-Landbaron]

But (oh, bother) all this thinking made me remember that the Diamond Horseshoe Review was also free.YES!!! And one of the best shows as well!! I remember making a bee-line for that place, first thing in the morning, and getting a reservation. But you were dead meat if you were bald! Remember the gal with the mirror? She always picked on the bald guy and left a big kiss (lots of lipstick) on his head!!

What was in the original circle vision? I mean what was the movie about? It has been so long I can't remember it!They had a few. The first one I remember was America the Beautiful. Kind of a cross country - scenic view - type show.

[WDWHound]

America the Beautiful is the only film I remember there, but I know there were others. I still remember the jet scene from America the Beautiful. When the pilot rolled the jet, everyone grabbed for the railings. I doubt that would phase anyone now.

[YoHo]

Umm, the Buzz Meet and greet was a rumour (I thought Safari Steve Confirmed it) when Time keeper initially shut down. At the time it was announced to be purely temporary. Which of course doesn't mean anything.
My point is
1: Screamscapes announcing old news and putting a decidedly negative spin on it (If it isn't a rumour, If Disney announced the intentions to rehab Time keeper, then Screamscape's commentary is inappropriate)

2: As I alluded to right above, indications were that Timekeeper would get rehabed. Of course, plans change and It may be a goner, but as far as semi-confirmed reports go, Timekeeper will return.

[WDWHound]

Thanks for the info Yoho.
I knew about the rumor that the closing was temporary for rehab, but I didn't recall seeing anything on the meet and great, so that indicated to methey didnt plan to bring it back. I hope you are right. I will keep my fingers crossed that they will bring back the attraction, though the removal of its sign does not bode well for it.

[swinginevilmike]

There already is a "Meet and Greet" with Buzz, Woody, Jessie and Bulls-eye at MGM Studios oh the Green Army men are there as well. I don't think they would have two Buzz's out in the park at the same time...but then again there are two Mickeys...one at MGM and one in Mickey's Town Faire...

[wdwguide]

They can have one Mickey out per park at any given time.

[JeffH]

My dad was that bald man once (probably the most fun he ever had in his life!).
I'll never forget when the family met back up at the end of the day and seeing dad (with mom) with that still perfect lipstick print still on his head:), and that smile on his face.
Having never seen the show up until that point, I then made it a point to see it.
I managed to be the guy on the balcony that she reflected her heart mirror at.
Too bad I never got to be the hunk she warms up to, then the family would have experienced all 3.
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At Epcot, there has to be at least 2 Mickey's out at a time, since he greets at the Land Grill all day and also rides around on the bus

[DVC-Landbaron]

As I alluded to right above, indications were that Timekeeper would get rehabed. Of course, plans change and It may be a goner, but as far as semi-confirmed reports go, Timekeeper will return.YoHo. I really don’t want to make a big deal out of this. And you’ve mentioned several times tha ‘things change' and so on and so forth. But, what’s your take? Do you think Timekeeper is a goner or what?

Like I said, I’m just wondering. No big deal. ;)

[Quentin Disney]

Originally posted by WDWHound
I remember the Hall of Presidents as an E-ticket, but I could be wrong.

It was more like a ZZZ-ticket to me! It made me fall asleep back in January. I loved the American Adventure, but wish this attraction were to be put out of its misery. Too bad it most certainly won't.

Silly DISers, everyone knows there is only ONE Mickey! (Play along with me...):bounce:

[Planogirl]

Disney seems to be getting craftier about their closings now. That is, if The Timekeeper is really a goner. I just wish that they'd remove the "closed until further notice" next to Horizons on the Disney website. OK, OK I get it now! ;)

As far as Mickey goes, don't forget that there's one in Camp Mini-Mickey too plus you can walk into the Land almost anytime and see Mickey visiting diners without having to enter the restaurant.

[All Aboard]

Jeff & Jeff (H & DVC) you are both right. Originally, HoP was an E ticket attraction. In the later days of the ticket system it changed (to a D, I belive) and then just before the ticket system was eliminated, it became a free attraction. I'll have to check my guide book collection for verification.

[space42]

Wow, thanks for all of the information on the ticket system. Brings back memorys. Even though I was very young when WDW still used the system, I do remember arguing with my sister who would get the last E Ticket! :)

Back to the TimeKeeper rumor. If they are indeed rehabing this attraction, why would they choose to do it right in the middle of the summer? Don't these types of rehabs usualy take place in the off season? Plus, there is no sign announcing the rehab in front of the attraction. Don't they usualy have a sign saying the are "refurbishing for your future enjoyment" or something like that? The attraction is just gone off the park map. And all signs are gone.
I think this attraction is a gonner.

Maybe they should just update it to a new film? That has to be cheaper than an entire new attratcion right? I always liked the circle vision movies. The problem with film based attractions is that they loose their appeal sooner than ride through attractions. Though I'm not sure what else could go in that small of a building. Dont think there is enough space for another type of attraction other than circle vision. Maybe a spinner? :)

[YoHo]

I remember a couple years ago that Small world was closed for a Rehab in June.
I think it depends on the length of the rehab.


DVC, My take is that it probably will reopen as something. There's just too little to do in Tomorrowland (its better then DL's though) You need something to offset the many fast passes. Unlike 20K UTS which was always broken down, so the vast majority of people don't even miss it.

[JeffH]

Timekeeper originally opened as "America the Beautiful", then was changed to "Magic Carpet around the World", then for the Bicentenial "America the Beautiful" was brought back and stayed until Timekeeper opened. I never got to see MCATW, because the one time I had a chance (during the short time that it ran) I had eaten an ice cream, ridden the Tea Cups then entered the theatre (to 'relax'), and as the theatre started diving down into the fiords of Norway, I had to hit the exit (luckily I got out before a dreaded protein spill occured).
I don't remember HoP being downgraded to a D, just it becoming free then the ticket books went away.
Kinda strange how when they got rid of the reservations for the Diamond Horseshoe show, the demand diminished (you basically can walk in off the street for a show now-a-days). We used to kill/race to get a reservation, well I never really killed anyone, but I easily could have been 1st in line one time (if I had known it was a race...I was #2 simply jogging)
As far as 360 films go...
Personnally I hate shows/preshows where you have to stand, because my legs hurt so much when I have to stand in one place for just a few minutes.

[DVC-Landbaron]

Kinda strange how when they got rid of the reservations for the Diamond Horseshoe show, the demand diminished (you basically can walk in off the street for a show now-a-days).I don’t know which came first. Maybe the show lost appeal and there was no longer a need for reservations? I really don’t know.

I do remember a time earlier when they didn’t take reservations. But you had to line up for it an hour ahead of show time. Then they started taking reservations so you didn’t have to wait (HA! First version of a fastpast, when I think about it!!) And it seemed that every year you had to get there earlier and earlier until it turned into the race you described.

I don’t remember when it started to diminish. I started to have more kids, who weren’t very interested, so we’d skip it sometimes. I’ll bet I haven’t seen it in ten years, at least. Isit still the same show? Is there still a demand for it? Can anyone fill in some details?

[jefffarrell]

I understand that references to the Timekeeper attraction on the Tomorrowland Transit Authority have been deleted. So as you pass the former attraction, nothing is said. If Disney is planning on a rehab, they probably would not have cut this.

Just a thought...

[wdwguide]

Originally posted by jefffarrell
I understand that references to the Timekeeper attraction on the Tomorrowland Transit Authority have been deleted. So as you pass the former attraction, nothing is said. If Disney is planning on a rehab, they probably would not have cut this.

Just a thought...

It says: "Now approaching, the Metropolis Science Center" That's it. Like you said, no more "Be sure to meet the inventor. Timekeeper. He'd love to take the time to take you through time" and all that.

[Sarangel]

Jackie H. wrote: THere is a website to revisit long gone Disney attractions, what is that website?

I believe the site you're referring to is Yesterland (htttp://www.yesterland.com) owned by Werner Weiss.

Sarangel

[renknt]

Originally posted by swinginevilmike
There already is a "Meet and Greet" with Buzz, Woody, Jessie and Bulls-eye at MGM Studios oh the Green Army men are there as well.

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Rant To Follow


I don't think that WDW needs another Buzz and Woody meet and greet area where the CM cant be troubled to sign autographs for the guests.

When I was last there I was shocked to see Buzz and Woody just use a rubber stamp to sign for little kids. I was beside my self and when I talked with a CM Lead she said "It's because the costume is too bulky for the CM to use a pen. It the same at DL."
Well that just ain't so, its a matter of making the effort. At Dl the only charte I have never seen sign an autograph is King Louie.

That whole thing said to me that the guest were not important enough to make an extra effort for or maybe it just struck a cord with me like Pro Baseball players saying thier time was to valuable to waste on the fans

Sorry, I will now return you to your regular rumors



Michael W Young

[JeffH]

They've always used stamps.
I like the stamps, they are a little different.