Parks Game...Part 12! I Can't Believe We're Still Playing!

[MickeyBabe]

Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin (Depending on who's driving ;) )

[ksdave]

MBabe, great to "see" you. Particularly so close to the big Fourth Anniversary party.

[AKQJ10]

Ok, here's what we have:

Maelstrom
UoE
Haunted Mansion
ToT
SSE
Buzz Lightyear
Primevil Whirl
Dinosaur
Kali River Rapids


Nice job, all of you!! Mickeybabe, ksdave, plutospup and debbiedoo can all recah in and take out an AAQ card :)

[ksdave]

Here's a question to keep things moving along:

In what attraction can you make "final arrangements at the end of the tour", and what are the arrangements for?

[MAGICX2]

Is it Haunted Mansion and your funeral?(My first ever post on the Parks Game thread!)

[ksdave]

Absolutely correct, MAGICX2!! You hit a grand slam on your first at bat in the Parks Game thread!!
Now you get an AAQ (ask-a-question card).

(NOTE: Only four days until the PG thread's fourth anniversary party :banana: ).

[amandadaddy]

How 'bout the Tea cups? Definetly movin' front to back on them.

IASW? .....actually, I think that might not have happened, I got bored last time through, drank some of the water, strated to sing along with the tune (and enjoyed it! :confused3 ) ...sort of an out of body experience....

I could swear I've moved backwards in some ride ques (especially PPsF)

Happy Anniversary and Howdy to all!


:earsboy:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Ace....Does Backwards in Time count??? If so, there's Dinosaur!

Happy Anniversary on the 17th!


:banana: :cheer2: :banana: :cheer2: :banana: :cheer2: :banana:

[ksdave]

amandadaddy, wdwtheplacetobe, awesome to see you here! Hope everybody has their virtual hammocks ready for the party in the Chalk Circle this Saturday. I'm hoping we get some of the PG oldtimers to show up, as well as all the new players :hyper: .

Here's another quickie while we wait for one from MAGICX2:

What aerospace company manufactured the monorail cars for WDW?

[MickeyBabe]

I'm thinking Bombardier?

:wave2:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

I'll Second MickeyBabe! Bombardier!!!!

:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

[ksdave]

Surprisingly, the answer is not Bombardier, even though they are known for their railcars in Europe. The company who made them had a facility pretty close to WDW.

[plutospup]

Disney-Alweg Mark IV !

[ksdave]

Disney-Alweg Mark IV !

No, not the answer I was looking for. I believe the nameplate for the aerospace company that made them was next to the doors at the back of each car. This company is actually now part of a larger company.

[plutospup]

Mark IV monorail cars were built by Martin-Marietta. Whew, that took some work researching! http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id188.htm

[ksdave]

plutospup, you are correct. Martin Marietta was bought by Lockheed a few years ago, and is now the largest defense contractor in the world, Lockheed-Martin.
Next question???????

[plutospup]

Name the "B Ticket" attraction that featured "Gullywhumper", and "Bertha Mae".

[ksdave]

Hmmmmm, that was a while ago. Just a guess, was that the Mike Finch Keel Boats?

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Was it that Pinocchio ride in Disney Land (not there anymore though)?
:wizard: :pug:

[Mykelogan]

My Guesses are first, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and second, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Very curious to see the answer!
Mike :goodvibes

[amandadaddy]

I'll second KS Dave....had to be the Keel Boats. ( wasn't that a "C" ticket? )

Good Morning All!

:earsboy:

[MAGICX2]

Ok, I'm new to this and therefore this is probably an easy question for you vets but here goes.

How tall is TOT and what is the heights signifigance?

[ksdave]

ToT is 199' tall. If it was 200', FAA regulations would require a light on top.

Here's one that might be a little tougher:

What was the cost of an adult E-ticket when WDW opened?

[SpectroMagic*o*]

50 cents?
:wizard: :pug:

[plutospup]

Yes, ksdave, you are correct! It was the Mike Fink Keel Boats. According to www.waltdatedworld.bravepages.com it was a "B" ticket ride.

E-ticket...my guess 75 cents.

[amandadaddy]

Well, the original cost of admission was $1.00 for adults with reduced rates for children, clergy and servicemen in uniform ( free for kids 3 and under ) and ticket books were available at a discount from the individual prices at the rides,.....but that was at Disneyland in 1956....How about $.65 cents for an adult E ticket at WDW in 1971.

:earsboy:

[ksdave]

Hmmmm....might have a problem with my E-ticket question. I was basing the question on a picture I have of an E-ticket. But I just noticed it was actually issued in Disneyland. Anyway, the price there was:
E Coupon- 85¢ Adults, 75¢ Children
Now, I also remember that they said that you could use Disneyland tickets at WDW, and visa-versa. Soooooooooooo;
How about SpectroMagic*o*, plutospup and amandadaddy all get an AAQ just for posting an answer!!

(psst: only three days until the fourth anniversary of the PG thread.)

[AMANDASMOM]

Thanks Dave!

I'll toss out an easy one -

Who created Figment?

See yall tomorrow!

:earsboy:

[ksdave]

Was it Dreamfinder?

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Where in DisneyLand was Walt's apartment?
:wizard: :pug:

[AMANDASMOM]

Dreamfinder is correct Dave. An AAQ card to you!

Spectro - the apartment was above the Firehouse.

:earsboy:

[amandadaddy]

While we're waiting for a response I'll toss out a touring question:

Where in WDW can you find a suit of armor?

List as many as you can and please be specific.

Good luck to all!

:earsboy:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

I know u know this already, Dave, but you're correct, it was above the firehouse...good job!
:wizard: :pug:

[WedwayRocks]

I believe in the haunted mansion ride, in England pavilion @ Epcot, on Spaceship earth, those are the only ones I can come up with right now.

[amandadaddy]

That's three hits for Wedway Rocks!

Haunted Mansion
the Toy Soldier (England pavillion)
Space Ship Earth

I believe those are all correct......still more to come.

Keep sluggin' away.

:earsboy:

[ksdave]

amandadaddy, I know there is at least one in the gift shop of Cinderella's Castle.

[amandadaddy]

You are correct Dave!

I can think of at least two more....

HM Wedway Rocks
Toy Soldier Wedway Rocks
SSE Wedway Rocks
Cindy's Gift Shop KS Dave

I'll had out the AAQ cards at the end of this one.

:earsboy:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Pure guesses.....Pirates (in the treasure room) or the Great Movie Ride???

:confused3 :Pinkbounc :confused3

[WedwayRocks]

just curious, what are aaq cards?

[amandadaddy]

Did I say that I could think of two more?.....well make it three 'cause WDWthePlacetobe got one with PoC!

I'm tempted to agree with you about a suit of armor on the Great Movie Ride (possibly in an Errol Flyn clip or something...maybe even Monty Python), but I can't remember anything specific. If you can be more specific I'll include it and check it out on our next trip in Nov.

......I can still think of two more.......


Keep tourin' the parks,....you'll find 'em!


:earsboy:


AAQ cards = Ask A Question card

[wdwtheplacetobe]

wedway----when you get a correct answer....you are awarded an AAQ aka
"ask a question"...this means it's your turn to ask the next trivia question about the Parks....

Adaddy....can't think of anything specific in GMR---just thought there might be one....GOOD Question!!!!

pirate: pirate: pirate:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

adaddy---Is there a samarai suit of armor in Japan in Epcot????

Seems to me I have seen one there????

:confused3 :confused3 :confused3

[Granny]

Let's see...is there a conquistador with armor in Mexico in EPCOT?

How about the lobby in ToT?

How about that statue of Eric in VOTLM? Wasn't he wearing armor?

Did someone say party? :cool1:

[amandadaddy]

Good Morning folks! Y'all 've come up with some good ones that I hadn't thought of.

I believe WDWthePlacetoBe is correct about the Japan thing; the displays change from time to time of course, but I do remember seeing a Samarai suit of armor in the main shop close to where the swords are displayed.

Granny had some good ones too (good to see you Granny)! I'm pretty sure that Mexico and VOTLM are both correct, and ToT may be correct as well, I just can't remember seeing a suit of armor in there ( always to busy looking for hidden Mickeys and such ).

So here's the list thus far:

Haunted Mansion.....WedwayRocks
Toy Soldier.....WedwayRocks
Space Ship Earth.....WedwayRocks
PoC.....WDWthePlacetoBe
Cindy's gift shop.....KSDave
Mexico.....Granny
VotLM.....Granny
ToT.....Granny(?)
Japan.....WDWthePlacetoBe

........and I can still think of 2 more.......

:earsboy:

[Granny]

Thanks for the kind words, ADaddy!

My ToT guess was just that, so I think you can strike it from your list unless someone else can confirm it. For some reason, I think I can picture it in the lobby, but I have no idea where it would be. :confused3

As for other places with armor...how about somewhere in UK at EPCOT. After all, that would seem to make the most logical sense! But I don't know where it would be, it's just a blind guess.

[ksdave]

And Granny returns just in time for the Fourth Anniversary celebration! Granny, you need to reiterate the story of how the PG Thread got started for all of the newer folks on here. You and Higgs do it better than anybody.

amandadaddy, is there a suit of armor shown during the Backlot Tour? How about during the Beauty and the Beast show?

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Granny!!!!! My favorite Player....You were the first to make an impression on me when I started playing....

Adaddy----Could you revise your latest list???? I said PotC and Japan....tho wedway and wdwtptb BOTH start with W....Thanks!

:cool1: pirate: :cool1:

[amandadaddy]

Granny - I agree, it seems like there would be multiple suits of armor in the UK pavillion, but the only one I can remember is at the Toy Soldier which WedwayRocks already gave us.

KSDave - I don't remember any armor in BatB or on the Backlot Tour ( hasn't that gone the way of Horizons now? ).

The two I'm thinking of are in plain sight and I'm sure we've all seen 'em. In fact, I have a picture of DD and I in front of one 'em. Let me know if hints are needed yet.

.....I agree with Dave Granny, it would be very nice to have you or Higgs say something about the origins of the mother of all threads! Where's WDWoldtimer, IASWrider, countless others who should be named? Let's start another chalk circle and round up some Dole Whips!

:earsboy:

[Granny]

Let's see, is there a suit of armor next to the Love Shack?? :teeth:

I'm thinking of the middle ages and what could possibly fit into that theming. Of course, these are probably not having anything to do with theming...maybe something else?

Maybe a character in armor? Let's see...the prince in Sleeping Beauty might have had armor on when fighting the witch/dragon? So I'll guess One Man's Dream in case they have a depiction of that in there. Or maybe the mural on the wall of the castle? The one with Cinderella's step sisters?

(Glad to see this trusty old shotgun still fires!)

Thanks all, for the very kind welcome back. My time on the DIS board has been severely limited lately, and I must admit that I thought our game had gone away! The anniversary is what made me look for it again, and I am heartened to see so many friends still hanging out in our virtual parks.

*****************************

The story of the Parks Game is a simple one, and is retold in the very first post on this thread by Emperor Higgs.

Basically, six days after the horror and tragedy of the 9-11 terrorist attacks, a DIS board member named supamaki decided to start a little game on the DIS Boards Parks & Attractions board. His game was simple....ask a question about something in a park, and if you get it right you get to ask the next question. The game transported people mentally into the parks, and for a few brief moments helped us to escape the horror and fear generated in the days and months following the attacks on our nation.

The game had participation from a few people, and by the end of that year had grown with a regular group of players. By the middle of 2002, there was a fairly large group of core players, though new players were always welcome. During those days, it was not uncommon for a question to be asked, and answers come back within a minute or two! The play was fast and furious, and sometimes multiple questions were posed since the answer to an open question was going unconfirmed.

Along about that time, the invention of the AAQ card came about. This mystical award became the manner in which a person designated who was correct with their answer, and therefore could Ask A Question. Of course, the adjectives describing each card made each award special! :)

Every year, on the anniversary of the start of The Game, veteran and new players gather in the virtual Chalk Circle on Main Street USA to begin a celebration of the longest continuously running game on the DIS Boards. As with The Game itself, all are welcome into this group based on a mutual friendliness and appreciation of the genius that is Walt Disney World.

So come, one and all, and enjoy the 4th Anniversary of the beginnings of the Parks Game. And let this truly be, the “Happiest Celebration on Earth”. :banana:

Has anyone seen that Dole Whip Wench? :smooth:

[ksdave]

So come, one and all, and enjoy the 4th Anniversary of the beginnings of the Parks Game. And let this truly be, the “Happiest Celebration on Earth”. :banana:

Has anyone seen that Dole Whip Wench? :smooth:

Granny;
Thanks for the great post. As for the Dole Whip Wench and many of the other players from the past......I believe they have all gone off to Infinity and beyond....or somewhere like that ;) . Guess the "waters" are better over there.

amandadaddy;
As for the active question, can we get a hint about which park(s) the remaining suits are in? (not quite ready for "uncle" yet).

[Horizons16]

Stumbles through the doorway...

what? who? huh? Parks game?

I swear there is a suite of armor on the fantasyland side of the castle... i dont think it was said either...

[ksdave]

Steve;
I like your band pics! Are you a snare? I played drums for six years before moving to baritone. I marched in both my school band and a DCI drum corps.

While we're waiting to finish amandadaddy's tough one, how about a softball:

Name the eight E-ticket rides from the first years of operation.

[safaulk]

Steve;
Name the eight E-ticket rides from the first year of operation.

Pirates of the Caribbean
Jungle Cruise
Country Bear Jamboree
Haunted Mansion
Hall of Presidents
It's a Small World
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Space Mountain

[ksdave]

Shelly gets them all!! I had a typo in my original question ("year" vs. "years"), but she answered it correctly anyway! A big e-ticket AAQ to you Shelly.

[safaulk]

I don't know if this question has been posed yet but here goes:

Approximately how many people visited Disney World during its first year of operation?

Let me know if this is a repeat, and I will post another question. Thanks!

7 more days to go!!! Whoopeeeee!!! :dancer:

[ksdave]

Happy Fourth Anniversary, Parks Game Thread!!! It was four years ago today that supamaki asked that famous question:

In what WDW attraction is there a dog named Nana? And what year did it open?


safaulk;
I'll guess 1,971,000 :rotfl:

[Granny]

Happy Anniversary, fellow members of the Park Game!!

I'll guess that Nana is in Tarzan Rocks!!


Hey...this will be my only chance to post today and I didn't want to get one right and have to ask a question! :smooth:


Have a great time celebrating four years of fun and friendship. Now, pass the Dole Whip please! :cool1:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

happy anniversary!

that would be Peter Pan's Flight...but I'll hand my AAQ off if I'm right!

:cool1: :cool1: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[ksdave]

Yes, it is Peter Pan's Flight.
But don't forget the second part of the question:

And what year did it open?

(I'll be out for a while at my company picnic. Keep the cc warm for me and I'll bring back a truckload of Dole Whips for the party :banana: ).

[wdwtheplacetobe]

1971, of course!


:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[ksdave]

Correct, wdwtheplacetobe!! One thing most people do not know is that PPF actually did not open on Opening Day, 10/1/71. It wasn't quite ready and opened two days late on 10/3/71.

Anybody else want to spend an AAQ??

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Chalk Circle here we come!!!!

:wizard: :wizard: :wizard:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

here's a softball to keep the game rolling....

What is the name of the water tower at MGM?

:wave2: :rolleyes1 :wave2:

[Carol Ann]

The Earful Tower!

[wdwtheplacetobe]

A watery AAQ to you, Carol Ann---you're up!


:flower: :flower: :flower:

[ksdave]

Hmmmmmmm........
Awefully quiet in the CC for an anniversary party. Guess everyone is off doing something in the "real world". Well, I'll just sit back and relax with this truckload of Whiparitas while I watch the virtual parade go by.

To help out any new folks on the thread, I'll give you the story of the CC (chalk circle):
Believe it or not, there was a woman who posted on the "Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies" board that she had gone to WDW with her family. In order to make sure she had good seats for the Main Street Parade, she brought a bucket of kids chalk with her to mark out "her turf". She drew a huge circle on the sidewalk for her group. She was shocked when other people actually had the nerve to sit in "her circle". :rotfl: The responses to that thread were so amusing that our little PG Thread decided to "adopt" the idea and make our own Virtual Chalk Circle. We would sit around in the circle and imbide in Whiparitas, which are Dole Whips with a special "kick". The fun lasted for over two years and through many versions of the PG Thread.

Now, to stay within the rules of the board, a park question:

In which MK land can you buy a Dole Whip?

[Horizons16]

MMMM DOLE WHIP!!

Adventureland...

KSDave yes i am a snare player... i played in high school and now play for my university. what corps did you march?

~

[ksdave]

Steve;
You are absolutely correct! A special-edition Forth Anniversary AAQ to you (it comes loaded with unlimited questions to be asked :teeth: ). You're up!

[I marched in the Long Island Kingsmen (probably before your time). Since then, I have traveled with The Cadets as a volunteer. This past summer, my son marched with Revolution from San Antonio as their youngest member ever (13) and I was Volunteer Coordinator].

[Horizons16]

I have heard of the Kingsman... The Cadets ah yes, the land of the right foot step off :teeth: very unique... i march with one of the trumpet players from the cadets. Very good player
edit: 13 is really young to be in a corps! thats pretty cool!
as for the question


Where can you find a goat with an "explosive" ( eh hem play on words ) attitude.

[plutospup]

Could it be the goat eating t-n-t at Big Thunder Mt?

[ksdave]

I'll second plutospup! That ride has so much detail that so many people miss. Wish I could "walk it" sometime to catch everything!

[Horizons16]

You got it Pluto... ask away!

[plutospup]

Where can you find the Glockenspiel? ...and what is it?

[ksdave]

Would that be in Germany? I know a Glockenspiel is a set of bells you would use while marching.

[plutospup]

Hmmm...close...a little more specific.

[ksdave]

Hmmm, tough. Is it in the Oktoberfest Musikanten restaurant?

[plutospup]

Not in the restaurant, but VERY obvious (so obvious people miss it!) Keep guessing! :teeth:

[Horizons16]

KSDave thats right in our context :)

i think you are looking for the clock version of it. Its a large tower with bells and moving figures. The most famous one is in Munich Germany... studied german and went to Germany a few times. Saw it, it was amazing. The bells ring for almost 20 minutes!

Its just hanging out right there in Germany its the clock tower... that what you want?

[ksdave]

I might have to pass on this one, as the only thing I ever remember doing in Germany was eating the buffet for lunch at the Biergarten and looking through the Christmas shop.

[By the way, pass around another round of Whiparitas. The CC has plenty of room for lounging tonight].

[plutospup]

Sehr gut Horizons16! So you've been to Munich, too!
Truthfully, it's been awhile since I watched the Germany/EPCOT glockenspiel chime & dance.
Horizons16, you're up!

[Horizons16]

this is going back a few years...

The dream catcher told figment of many types of dreams... he forgets one thing though and the Dream catcher reminds Figment of that......
What does the Dream catcher remind Figment of?

[ksdave]

That dreams can be dark too.

[ksdave]

Well, it looks like the CC has emptied out for the night. I want to thank Horizons16 and plutospup for keeping the thread active tonight for the fourth anniversary. Sorry other oldtimers couldn't be here. Hopefully, the thread will still be going next September for the fifth anniversary. Until then, one more question:

What were the three experiences you could choose from at the end of the Horizons attraction?

[Mykelogan]

Well, it looks like the CC has emptied out for the night. I want to thank Horizons16 and plutospup for keeping the thread active tonight for the fourth anniversary. Sorry other oldtimers couldn't be here. Hopefully, the thread will still be going next September for the fifth anniversary. Until then, one more question:

What were the three experiences you could choose from at the end of the Horizons attraction?

Oohh!!! Talk about jogging my memory! hehe!!! I think it was...

(1) Space Travel
(2) Underwater
and...
and...
and...
(3) Air flight???

(Those are all guesses, hope at least one is correct! hehehe!)

Mike :goodvibes

[ksdave]

Mykelogan;
.667 would definitely make you an All-Star in MLB!!
Space Travel and Underwater are correct. Need something a little more specific on the third one. Try again.

[Horizons16]

sorry i was caught up in some reading oops

the third was the desert... mmm oranges :)

[MickeyBabe]

:wave2: I'll second Steve... The Desert.

Happy Anniversary Parks Game! :jumping1:

Nice of you to host this little party Dave. Thanks. It has brought back many good memories. ::yes::

[ksdave]

Steve and MBabe both get the third experience. AAQs to Mykelogan, Steve and MBabe. You each get a special edition Fourth Anniversary AAQ!!

[Nice to see you MBabe. Glad another of us "oldtimers" made it in to keep the streak going. I looked through the last edition of the thread from the third anniversary date and it was amazing the folks that came back last year. Even OT!!).

[jwill]

Happy Anniversary Parks game, good to she is still alive and kicking. A special shout out to KS DAVE and all the other old schoolers on here. And while I'm at it another one to the new gang keeping it rolling.

[DisneyJen]

DisneyJen tiptoes into the chalk circle, looks around and makes sure that everyone is comfy in their hammocks. As the sun bathes Cindy's Castle in a warm glow she says ..."There's no place like home!" Thanks Dave!

Happy Anniversary!! And as usual I am a day late and a dollar short :earseek:
Sorry I haven't been around much but real life does have a way of being distracting :p

My guess is ... 71 :rotfl:

[Horizons16]

Ill have to file that AAQ, im off to save the world again, one snare lick at a time :)

[ksdave]

Enjoy, Steve.
Here's a softball to keep it moving while I'm at church:

Name all of the attractions that were open in Future World on EPCOT's Opening Day.

[DisneyJen]

I'll take a swing ...

Spaceship Earth
The Land
Horizons
The Living Seas

[Princess Mindy]

spaceship earth
fountain of nations
universe of energy
Communicore
world of motion
The land
Astuter Computer
Image Works
Energy Exchange
FutureCom
Harvest Theater
Kitchen Kabaret Revue
Listen to The Land
Magic Journeys
The American Adventure
Canada
O Canada!
China
Wonders of China
France
Impressions de France
Germany
Italy
Japan
Mexico
United Kingdom

I think thats everything!

[ksdave]

Sorry DisneyJen, but our beloved Horizons was not yet open on Opening Day.

Princess Mindy, you got all of the ones I was looking for, plus a bunch more! An AAQ+ goes to you.

[Princess Mindy]

:Pinkbounc :cool1:
I love Disney Trivia!

Ok here's one:

Why is the Fountain of Nations in Epcot named so?

[DisneyJen]

The Fountain of Nations is so named because on opening day water for countries from all over the world was poured to create the fountain.

I thought for sure that one of the oldtime cc'er ride was open Dave :earboy2:

[Princess Mindy]

Hooray! I guess that was an easier one than I thought! But how many countries poured the water for extra credit!
You're turn DisneyJen!

[DisneyJen]

Umm ... 71 :rotfl:

On what attractions in MK can you find auto-animatronic dogs?

[SanDiegoDayTripper]

I'll try this for the first time -- New to the chalk circle

Peter Pan (Nana)
Country Bear Jamboree
Splash mountain (?Not Sure)

[SanDiegoDayTripper]

Ooohh thought of one more I think --

Hall of President (doesn't Roosevelt have one sitting next to him?)


Just trying! Want to be part of the fun!

[DisneyJen]

Glad to have you join in SDDTripper ...

You have one on my list SDDTripper...

Peter Pan

I have four more :goodvibes

[ryley26]

Carosuel of progress and haunted mansion pirates of the carribean:cool1:

[DisneyJen]

Ryley got three :goodvibes

We still are missing one ...

So far ...

Peter Pan - SDDTripper
CoP - Ryley
HM - Ryley
Poc - Ryley

[Princess Mindy]

A wild guess..
Umm Its a small world? (can't remember if they have anything besides people)

[DisneyJen]

Good try Princess but not correct ...

The last one is not found in that land :earseek:

[Magickndm]

I'm late as well, but had to stop by. :)

:wave: DJen! I really can't think of another dog, but Pluto has to be somewhere doesn't he?

[DisneyJen]

:wave2: MK I was late too ... but I think we will be forgiven if you share that chocolate croissant from BW :cool1:

Actually the last dog left is very special ... she/he is part of the post-ride in MK. :dog:

[ksdave]

The RCA dog in Space Mountain!

[Magickndm]

I'm still stumped, but here's the chocolate croissant. :goodvibes
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/184/184010/folders/136269/966337choc.croissant.jpg

[DisneyJen]

DisneyJen wipes the drool off her face. Thanks MK

AAQs to SDDTripper, Ryley and .... DAVE :goodvibes

The "lab retriever" always makes us smile as we have 2 retrievers :dog:

[ryley26]

Name the four holidays in the caroseul of progress :earsboy:

[Horizons16]

Christmas Thanksgiving New Years and i cant remember the 4th... or is it... the 4th of july.?

[ksdave]

OK, time for a tougher question:

In the Captain EO movie, what is the name of the "crewman" that looks like an alien version of an elephant?

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Only saw it once 18 years ago....was it DUMBO????

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Horizons16]

i was too young and scared... i only remember looking at it though my fingers without the glasses on ha... :)

[ksdave]

wdwtheplacetobe;
No, not Dumbo. Actually, something even more interesting than that :earseek: .

ryley26;
The holidays are Valentine's Day, 4th of July, Halloween, and Christmas.

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Like the Elephant Man????

Or perhaps Elmer????

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[DisneyJen]

Was it Michael Jackson?

DisneyJen shows her age.

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Michael was Captain EO...that much I remember!
*can't believe it was so lonnnnng ago*

:Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc

[ksdave]

No, not Elephant Man, Elmer, or Michael.
Need a hint?

[wdwtheplacetobe]

sure.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[ryley26]

horizons got the two

the fouth of july
christmas

two more :earsboy:

[DisneyJen]

Isn't Halloween in Cop? I remember talking about costumes.

[wdwtheplacetobe]

I thought Dave was right---VD, The 4th, Halloween and Christmas????

:smooth: :smooth: :smooth:

[amandadaddy]

I'll also second KSDave on the CoP Holidays.

Sorry I missed the anniversary party folks, non-Disney things kept me away in person, but I was with you in spirit.

Granny got one of the two remaining suits of armor in my old question with the mozaic inside Cindy's Castle.

So to update the list thus far:

Granny.....Mexico, VOTLM, Cindy's Mozaic
KS Dave.....Cindy's gift shop
Wedway Rocks....HM, Toy Soldier, and SSE
WDWthePlaceToBe.....POC and Japan

.....there's still one more out there....as for the hint that KSDave requested...the setting begs for a suit of armor and wouldn't seem complete without it.

KSDave and Horizons - I never marched beyond high school, but I've attended several DCI events and still enjoy catching them on TV. I played quads in the marching season, tympani during concert, and trap kit year round. I still play every weekend at a local night club where my band has a house gig. It pays better than golf and sends us to WDW every year!

Goodmorning all!

:earsboy:

[Horizons16]

It seems as though there should be a drum circle some night :)

Hmm as for the armor... i think Mickey wears a suite of armor at one point in fantasmic... not sure if thats what you are looking for...

[DisneyJen]

A drum circle in the chalk circle works for me as long as I can lead the silks/swing flags :cheer2:

How about in the Great Movie Ride?

[amandadaddy]

Sorry Jen and Horizons - that's a miss on both counts.

The location of the last suit of armor on my list is in a themed area that would not seem complete without a suit of armor.

Keep tourin' the parks folks, you'll find it.

:earsboy:

[DisneyJen]

ADaddy are we at least in the right park or do we need to hop a boat to EPCOT?

[MickeyBabe]

ADaddy.... How about at Cinderella's Royal Table?

... or maybe Sir Mickey's?

:wave2:

[amandadaddy]

Before I could tell y'all to take the boat, then the monorail back to MK...MBabe nails it!

The last suit of armor is in the foyer (waiting room) of Cinderella's castle. I believe that there are others in the stairwell and the dining room but I'm counting 'em all as one on my list.

AAQ cards go out to Granny, KS Dave, WDWthePlaceToBe, Wedway Rocks, and MBabe! Congrats to all!

:earsboy:

[ksdave]

Sorry I didn't get back with the hint for my question:

In the Captain EO movie, what is the name of the "crewman" that looks like an alien version of an elephant?

The hint is: the name is more famous referring to a US restaurant chain that serves wings with nice legs.

[POOH&PIGLET]

I never saw Captain EO but I will guess: Hooter.

[amandadaddy]

I've never been to Hooters and only saw that Pepsi commercial once :teeth: , but I'll go out on a limb and second Pooh & Piglet with another vote for crewman Hooter.


:earsboy:

[DisneyFreq]

New to this thread...learned quite a bit from these last 92 pages...

Hooter is right I think....that character made a weird chirping noise (I believe). Guess that's how he got the name.

Now...question...did they FILTER the water they used for the fountain of nations? I keep imagining someone picking up dysentery.....
No one ever listed WHICH nations dumped water (or some semblence there of) into the fountain. I'm curious to know.

[amandadaddy]

Sounds like a question for the Walt Disney World Water Drinkers' Society!

All waters at WDW are safe for human consumption (except for SMt and IASW - you don't want your breath to smell like those logs, and it would be terrible to shrink to the size of a 2 year old and engage in the incessant singing of an annoying song). The waters of the Fountain of Nations have the most international flavor of all with hints of everything from Montezuma's revenge to Perrie (sp?). I'm not up to speed on all the information available from the WDWWDS, so I think it would be best at this time if I passed on any additional comments until a more qualified DISer can address your questions. :teeth:


:earsboy:

[ksdave]

POOH&PIGLET, you nailed it! Guess my hint was a little too obvious.
amandadaddy, you get an honorable mention for the second, BUT, you get a :confused3 for never having been to Hooters! You really need to go. My son asked his mom if he could have his eighth B-day party there!! A chip off the old block :rotfl2: .

The waters must have at least come from:
USA
Canada
England
France
Germany
Italy
Japan
China
Mexico

[Princess Mindy]

This is what I could find on the fountain:
Young adults from 23 nations each poured a gallon of their country's water into the fountain, symbolizing the unity of world friendship. Water came from as far away as the Arctic Ocean, the Nile River in Africa, and Yangtze River in China, and as close as the Mississippi.

[DisneyJen]

Mindy you beat me to it!! I just went upstairs to pull my Disney History file which contains some great facts :earboy2:

Do we have a current question or do we need some one to cash in an AAQ card?

[ksdave]

We need a question. How about a softball:

What company sponsored Horizons at its opening?

[Princess Mindy]

General Electric!

[Horizons16]

Man im going to look really dumb if this is wrong... im pretty General Electric was its sponser all the way to 93 when they dropped and it was unsponsered to 98 when it closed and in 99 for good...

[amandadaddy]

Where's Horizons to answer this one? Okay, they ran the CoP theme through it in some spots, so I'll guess that GE was the original sponsor.

:earsboy:

[Princess Mindy]

I've got a good one now (at least I think! :confused3 )

What Symphony played for the 1971 dedication of the MK, where were they located and who conducted?

:cheer2: :cheer2:

[Horizons16]

Where's Horizons to answer this one? Okay, they ran the CoP theme through it in some spots, so I'll guess that GE was the original sponsor.

:earsboy:


I know, the one time I get up and go down the hall... guff... ha ::MickeyMo

[MickeyBabe]

The World Symphony Orchestra conducted by Arthur Fiedler.

:wave:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

where???
In front of the Castle!


:cool1: :Pinkbounc :cool1:

[ksdave]

General Electric is correct for the Horizons question.
AAQs to Princess Mindy, Horizons16, and amandadaddy.

[Princess Mindy]

You got it MBabe and WDWtheplacetobe!
Was it still too easy?

You're up! *passes the AAQ*

[wdwtheplacetobe]

thanks, Princess...no, not too easy...just logical for my part.

Here's another one...fairly easy...

Where is the "chicken exit" in Tower of Terror???

:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:

[amandadaddy]

I'm proud to say that I honestly don't know! ....but I think it's to the far right of the elevator entrances.


:earsboy:

[MickeyBabe]

It is between the two sets of elevators and exits in the hall going to the Gift Shop.

For the record I never have taken it I just know someone who has.

:goodvibes

[ryley26]

aaq's to place to be horizons and disney jen

[wdwtheplacetobe]

I was thinking a little broader and a little easier....


What Room is the "chicken exit" in? (ToT)

:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:

When the ride got "stuck", we were walked around by a cast member thru some hall to ride again....which leads me to another question...

How many elevators Are in ToT?

[DisneyJen]

How about 13 elevators :rotfl2: 71 :banana:

Actually my answer is 4.

[wdwtheplacetobe]

A "Going up?" AAQ for DisneyJen....There are 4--2 loading, 2 unloading!

Do you Know the name of the ROOM????

:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[MickeyBabe]

I believe there are at least 5 .... 2 loading 2 unloading and a seperate nice and slow elevator for the "chicken exit"

:wave:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

And you're right, Mickeybabe! That's what sleep deprivation will do to me!

Since I already awarded it....you get ANOTHER "Going up Or is it Going Down?"
AAQ....


Have at it, I'll Just watch!

:earboy2: :earboy2: :earboy2:

[amandadaddy]

Is the name of the room the "Boiler Room" or something to that effect? How about the basement?

Good morning all!

:earsboy:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Yes!

It's the BOILER ROOM!!!!


:thewave: :thewave:


A Creepy Machinery AAQ for Adaddy!

[amandadaddy]

Thanks for the AAQ card WDWthePlacetoBe!

I still love to do a "virtural" tour of the parks as often as possible so let's do that together.....

Where in WDW can you find dogs?

Let's make no bones about it, none of us should find this ruff, so get on the gravy train and retrieve those pups!

:earsboy:

[Horizons16]

The kennel?

[Princess Mindy]

Well you can find pluto at Chef Mickeys and all the parks..I found him in front of the hat at MGM

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Let's see....DOGS?


Carousel Of Progress
Space Mtn
Town Square Exposition---101 Dalamations
Pirates of the Caribbean
The Haunted Mansion (down in the cemetery)
The Haunted Mansion (Outside in the Pet Cemetary)

To start...

[ksdave]

Peter Pan's Flight.....

[wdwtheplacetobe]

To continue...

Honey, I shrunk the Audience (that sneeze is GROSS)
Great Movie Ride (Toto, for one)


Where else???

:cool1: :dog2: :pug: :cool1:

[amandadaddy]

I think so,....at least that's all the ones that were on my list.

WDWthePlaceToBe:

PoC
CoP
HM
Space Mnt
Town Square Expo
HISTA
GMR

KS Dave:

PP'sF

Isn't it odd that there are no dogs at AK? I also think there should have been a dog in VOTLM, but can't remember one.

Milk bone shaped AAQ cards go to WDWthePlaceToBe and KS Dave.

:earsboy:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Thanks...Adaddy...Since I have to go help folks prepare for Rita...

Dave...are ya' there???? Please ask the next one!

Ya'll have a Magical Day!

:grouphug:

[DisneyJen]

Looks like we could use another question so I will cash in an AAQ. I will take a page from ADaddy and ask a tour question;)

Name the ride and parks where your ride vehicle is a boat

[Princess Mindy]

Ooh!
IASW-MK
Pirates of the carribean-MK
Jungle cruise-MK
Maelstrom-Epcot
El Rio di tiempo-Epcot
living with the land-Epcot
Great movie ride-MGM

[DisneyJen]

And the corresponding Parks Mindy :rotfl:

[Princess Mindy]

Sorry got too excited! All fixed now

[DisneyJen]

No problem Mindy ...

A keel shaped AAQ to Mindy:boat:

[Princess Mindy]

Ok I've got a good one :banana: :
In March 2000, what ban on CM appearance was lifted and how long was it in effect?

[DisneyJen]

Was it the ban on facial hair, which was instituted when MK opened in 1971?

[Princess Mindy]

Correct! It was actually instated earlier than that, but for the purpose of us being limited to WDW, this is correct!

[DisneyJen]

Looks like we are the only one in the chalk circle this afternoon Mindy :wave2: Here is a softball to keep us moving along.

Name the indoor rollercoasters at WDW.

[MickeyBabe]

RnRc, Space Mtn and Virtual Space Mountain at DQ? :wave2:

[amandadaddy]

How about Dinosaur? .....ok, it's not really a roller coaster, but it's definitely a thrill ride! And if we're counting virtual coasters I'll add Star Tours and Body Wars.


:earsboy:

[DisneyJen]

Hey MBabe :grouphug:

A mountain shaped AAQ to MBabe.

ADaddy gets a virtual AAQ :grouphug:

[MickeyBabe]

Right back at ya DJen :grouphug:

Where in the "world" can one find Professor Cumulus Isobar?

:umbrella:

[amandadaddy]

How 'bout at JIYI?

:earsboy:

[MickeyBabe]

Sorry Adaddy... You will have to hop the monorail and head back to another park. ;)

:smooth:

[ClarabelleCowFan]

Where in the "world" can one find Professor Cumulus Isobar?

:umbrella:

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad!

[MickeyBabe]

You are correct Clarabelle!

One Cloudy AAQ card to you!

You're up.

:teeth:

[amandadaddy]

I should have known that!......we love BTMRR.

:earsboy:

[ClarabelleCowFan]

How many gallons of water does the main tank at the Living Seas hold?

[ryley26]

is it 3,333,000 something like that

[DisneyJen]

How about 71,000,000 gallons :earseek:

[ClarabelleCowFan]

Somewhere between the 2.... :teeth:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

How many gallons of water does the main tank at the Living Seas hold?

I'll say 20,000,000?

:wizard: :pug:

[ksdave]

How about 5,700,000 gallons.

[ksdave]

Well, we need a question, so I guess I'll throw one out:

What was the name of the group that used to perform in EPCOT using only brass and percussion instruments?

[ClarabelleCowFan]

How about 5,700,000 gallons.

Belated AAQ to you, Dave. The Living Seas main tank holds 5.7 million gallons of seawater.

[wdwtheplacetobe]

Dave....I have NO idea for your question...but COOL pics of your son!!!

I marched French Horn in High School many years ago....I wonder how many of us were in Band????

:cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

[ksdave]

Dave....I have NO idea for your question...but COOL pics of your son!!!

I marched French Horn in High School many years ago....I wonder how many of us were in Band????

:cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

Probably most of us. They say learning music makes you smarter than average :rotfl2: .

[mlcar]

Hi ksdave - remember me?!

I haven't posted in a long, long time. Guess I need to get back here. As an original member, I'm sorry I missed the anniversary party. Ah, those early days were good ones . . . the original chalk circle, the love shack, 'possums (remember OT?), blue mini-golf balls, etc. Anyway,

If garbage can lids count as percussion instruments, was the name of the performing group the Jammitors?

[DisneyJen]

:wave: Hi Mlcar ... welcome back to the chalk circle :wave:

I was in marching band and indoor guard ... trumpet then alto sax and the last two years silks (large swing flag). Wanted to march with the Crossmen in DCI but college got in the way.

How about the World Ensemble?

[ksdave]

mlcar;
Welcome back!! Great to "see" you.

Jen;
I have alot of friends who marched Crossmen. I marched L.I. Kingsmen for (16) years.

Keep guessing folks. (small hint: They only performed in Future World.)

[wdwoldtimer]

{psst...try flying over the desert colonies} or "dessert" if you're homophonically challenged....

Did I miss the party?

[ksdave]

OT!! The man himself has returned to the PG thread!! Awesome to see you here again. Weren't you on page 1 of the first thread? I guess this "brings the circle complete. You are the Master".

[wdwoldtimer]

Oops, looks like I replied to a stale link....who would have thought a 4 year old thread would move so quickly?

[ksdave]

That's OK, OT, the thread is alot slower than it used to be, so all answers are welcome (even if they are to a question from three days ago :rotfl2: ).

[wdwoldtimer]

Marching brass band in Epcot? Future Corps?

[ksdave]

Ding ding ding!!!

OT gets it. Future Corps was always one of my favorite things to watch in WDW. Real shame they are no longer around.

OT, want to give us a question?

[wdwoldtimer]

How many tombstones are located on your left as you enter the HM in WDW?

[Magickndm]

Is it 999?

[wdwoldtimer]

Yep, they jammed 999 tombstones in that little area. But I can't give you credit for that answer until you list all 999 names that appear on them.

[Magickndm]

I'll get back to you on the names.


Some things never change. :)

[amandadaddy]

We're actually going to list the names on all 999 tombstones!?! :earseek:

Good to see you OT

:earsboy:

[amandadaddy]

Mlcar made it over here and I missed it ?!?!?!

.....ahhh, the days of tu-tu wearing opossums, topiary elephants and such....

It's nice to get a taste of them once more......

KS Dave - I saw a traveling group of brass, bass and drums in Tomorrowland back in January of '04 ( not quite Future Corps, but they were very good ), but I don't know their name. Have you seen 'em, and if so, do you know their name?


:earsboy:

[mlcar]

Been a long, long time old buddy. Just dropped back in myself.

ADad - I'll have to dust off that tutu. It's been awhile . . .

[DisneyJen]

Deja vu all over again. OT is that REALLY you:faint: Glad to see you have a new job with the appliance company :rotfl:

[mlcar]

Hi Jen :banana:

OT, Dave, Jen, ADad, lots of folks still hanging around. How about Jas and MBabe - they still around as well?

[DisneyJen]

MBabe and Granny made an appearance a few pages back. Haven't seen Jas in these parts ... Thanks to Dave I was able to find my way here.

Just to keep us honest ...

Name the boats that ferry guests from country to country in EPCOT (looking for a generic answers)

[mlcar]

you always were the one trying to keep everyone on topic :flower:

The board is certainly slower these days. We used to have to rush to post in order to be the first one to answer!

OK - I'll say the boats are named Old Ironsides and Le Petit Chien (My French is a little rusty - sorry)

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Are they canopies?

:wizard: :pug:

[mlcar]

Oh, now those boats must have their own names, too. Canopy is so plain, so blase', so beige. And how would they tell them apart if had the same name. How would they radio the captain to return to port or dock or wherever they return to? It would be so confusing. I think if they don't have their own names, we should give them one.

(By the way, is Le Petit Chien little dog or small kitchen?)

[DisneyJen]

Old habits die hard mlcar :earboy2:

Good try mlcar and Spectro but not correct.

Excellent point mlcar ...

Let me see if this helps ... The boats names all start with the same word...

And mlcar that means small dog :dog2: Not to be confused with les grande cheins :dog:

[Horizons16]

the friendships :)

[mlcar]

That's right, they do start with the same word. Loosely translated as Old Ironsides and Le Petit Chien, which means little dog, as we all know.

[amandadaddy]

How about "Word Showcase Lagoon Boat #1 thru (how many are there?) X "?

Okay, I'm just guessing, but that's never been against the rules!


:earsboy:

[DisneyJen]

A keel shaped AAQ to Steve/Horizons:boat:

Mlcar you make me :rotfl:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Oh, now those boats must have their own names, too. Canopy is so plain, so blase', so beige. And how would they tell them apart if had the same name. How would they radio the captain to return to port or dock or wherever they return to? It would be so confusing. I think if they don't have their own names, we should give them one.

(By the way, is Le Petit Chien little dog or small kitchen?)

Oh, I'm oh so sorry for that horrendous mistake of mine...just a little confusion cuz she said it was a very generic answer. Thats the plainest thing I could think of, thank you for noticing! :earsgirl:

:wizard: :pug:

[Horizons16]

hmm i already have an AAQ and i need to head out soon for rehearsal so i guess ill leave it up to DisneyJen to give it to the second place :)

[DisneyJen]

Here a generic AAQ to Spectro :wizard: :teeth:

And a Royal Order of France AAQ to mlcar for best use of French in the Parks Game :p

[mlcar]

Merci Beaucoups, y'all (that's how we say it in the South of France)

Over to you Spectro (didn't mean you were beige and plain - hope you were kidding)

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Here a generic AAQ to Spectro :wizard: :teeth:

And a Royal Order of France AAQ to mlcar for best use of French in the Parks Game :p

Aww, thank you! Okay... Name 3 of the boats in the Jungle Cruise

:wizard: :pug:

[mlcar]

I think I'm done boat-naming for today

[DisneyJen]

But Mlcar are you done with :boat: drink:p

How about Botswana Bob?

[mlcar]

done with the drink - is the sun over the yardarm?! Silly, Jen.

OK I'll guess, but give me a ever so tiny hint, just to refresh my memory.

[amandadaddy]

How 'bout these:

Amazon Belle
Congo Queen
Nile Princess

:earsboy:

[mlcar]

OK, I get it. No hinting.

Well first I thought Porthos, Athos, and Demetrios. Cool names for anything that comes in threes. But they wore all that velvet and have big fancy feathers on the hats, and all that shouldn't get wet or be named for anything that gets wet (the back side of water, remember . . .) Plus, they're european, not african, so that's probably not the boat names.

So I'm thinking the Kenyan Kristoff, Nairobi Toby, and (my fave) Moroccan Manny.

[amandadaddy]

.....or maybe these:

Bomokandi Bertha
Irrawaddy Irma
Amazon Annie

:earsboy:

[ksdave]

Hmmmm, look at what I started, a reunion :cool1: .

I think one boat is Amazon Annie. I'm almost positive all the names have both words starting with the same letter (like Zambia Zelda).

[mlcar]

And Morrocan Manny. What a cool name :3dglasses

[SpectroMagic*o*]

So far so good, KSDave! You're 99% right on that observation by the way...I'll explain when all the answers in! Keep trying, good luck!

:wizard: :pug:

[amandadaddy]

Spectro - you didn't like my answer? :confused3

:earsboy:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

AmandaDaddy, you're right, you got 3 right...sorry, I didnt see it there before! Good job!!

Here are all the names: Amazon Annie, Bomokandi Bertha, Congo Connie, Ganges Gertie, Irrawaddy Irma, Kwango Kate, Mongala Millie, Nile Nellie, Orinoco Ida, Rutshuru Ruby, Sankuru Sadie, Senegal Sal, Ucayali Lolly, Volta Val, Wamba Wanda, Zambezi Zelda

So I guess you get to ask a Question, is that how it works? Go for it...sorry mlcar that you didnt like my question.

:wizard: :pug:

[amandadaddy]

Thanks Spectro!

This one might be a repeat from way back when, but I've slept since then and don't remember seeing it asked. :teeth: Here it goes:

List as many donkeys as you can find at WDW and where you found 'em.

Good luck!

:earsboy:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

Okay I'm gonna throw out my guesses, and they're only guesses. I thought of 3 possible donkeys
1) SpaceShip Earth (I was thinking World of Motion, but I dont think thats there anymore)
2) Thunder Mountain
3) Pirates of the Caribbean

:wizard: :pug:

[amandadaddy]

I've got all three of those on my list too, so that's 3 for Spectro!

....of 'course, there are still more out there.


Gotta head home now, but I'll check in later this evening.

:earsboy:

[SpectroMagic*o*]

I just thought of another one...I believe there's a donkey in the world showcase pulling a cart, I think near Italy?

:wizard: :pug:

[mlcar]

I didn't like your question?

[Princess Mindy]

There has to be a Donkey in the El RIo Di Tiempo ride in Epcot-Mexico-right?

[SpectroMagic*o*]

I didn't like your question?

no big deal, I just happened to see that you were "tired of naming boats" after I asked my question. Thats why I said sorry. Okay, lets drop it now, not trying to start anything, just having a good time on my DIS boards!... :earsgirl:

For some reason I think there's one in Snow Whites adventure, I dont know what makes me think this but I'll throw it out there...who knows, maybe I'm right! :flower:

:wizard: :pug:

[wdwtheplacetobe]

I'm sure there's a donkey in IASW, right???

:confused3 :Pinkbounc :confused3

[amandadaddy]

Princess Mindy and WDWthePlaceToBe found the remaining burros on my list with El Rio Del Tiempo and IASW.

.....I guess I really haven't been on SWSA all that often, but I just don't remember seeing a donkey there Spectro, sorry..........

Long-eared, stubborn AAQ cards go out to Spectro, Princess Mindy and WDWthePlaceToBe!


Good Morning all!!!!!

:earsboy:

[Princess Mindy]

Ok I think I have stumbled on a good one to start the morning! :banana: (morning exercise-I get tired watching him! Fumbles blindly for coffee..)

What is the official name of the fountain behind Cinderella's Castle?