What are your travel pet peeves?

[Beverly Lynn]

my biggest one is when people call a non stop flight a direct flight. a direct flight is one that makes one or more stops along the way with no change of planes in volved.

another one is when you get a great rate on something and then the agent questions you as to how you got it. or if you use a coupon they act like its fake or something. (I am referring to ones printed off the web)

and the worst is when you are at a resort room and you happen to have a connecting room and the people in that connecting room let their kids play with the doors and they keep slamming it. and then they keep trying to open the doorknob on the door leading into your room. last dec at the BWI this happened to us at 5 am with someone just arriving and their kid kept opening the door and I got up after the 5th slam and unlocked the door and then when he opened the door again I scared him. the parents said something to me in some language but they shouldn't have let their kid do that at 5 am. needless to say he didn't do it again.

I know I have more but this is the worst of them.

[The Hunt]

My pet peeve is paying $.75 for a local call from my hotel room.

[ducklite]

My pet peeves...

"Bin hogs" who try to carry on everything they own, as well as people who aren't able to manage their own luggage. If you can't put it in the bin without assistance, check it!!! People who don't fly often in general, who bumble and fumble trying to figure out where their seat is. Forget that there are 186 people behind you. And people who jump in line and try to board out of order.

Dirty hotel rooms.

Strollers with drivers who run into people because they're too busy looking at the scenary.

People who allow their kids to kick seat backs, and run through hotel hallways yelling.

People who don't bathe or wear approparite attire. Just because you are on vacation doesn't give you the license to not bathe or don appropriate attire. Leave the stained sweat pants and ripped Winger shirt home please.

Anne

[sgtdisney]

Good thread!

Mine are....

Not getting the whole can of soda on a flight. I am pretty thristy when I fly and I could easily drink 2 cans of soda. The little bit that fits in those dinky plastic cups wouldn't fill a thimble w/o ice. I have spent enough on the price of the flight for the airline to afford to give me one single can of soda.

Staying in a high rise hotel and being put on the 1st or 2nd Floor. This hasn't happened often as I usually request a higher floor, but when it does it makes me angry.

When flying during the day, not when you would normally sleep, and a person puts their seat all the way back as far as it can go during a meal service or drink service on an airplane. I hate having to eat or drink with the seat back 6 inches from my face practically. When this happens I usually wait until later, when I think the person is asleep and 'accidentally' bump the seat a few times. I don't mind this during a night flight when you are supposed to sleep, but when the person is obviously awake and has the seat is all the way back it really gets me ticked and it really isn't necessary.

The high pressure for insurance when you rent a car. I can't stand this. I decline it one time, don't keep asking me or telling me about all the risks. If I want it, I will take it. I don't want it, I wish they would back off. I am looking forward to EA this upcoming trip so I don't have to deal with this one.

I could think of more I am sure, but these are the biggies for me.

[Mr. Bildo]

Road construction!!! :mad:

-Bill

[Mouser]

People who jump lines as they feel they have paid so much to go there they have rights to things before you do.....

People who do not control their children in restaurants and let them bother other diners by screaming or throwing things or running around under other peoples tables...

People who talk all the way through rides and in shows in loud voicesso you cannot hear what is going on...

People who do not feel bathing or deoderant is necessary in hot climates.....

People who stand and talk right at the exit way to rides and shows so you have trouble getting out of places....

[JaneDE]

I dislike the moment when we start to board a plane and the medallion fliers are called to board first. It seems like over half of the plane is filled before regular boarding begins and the overhead bins are full by the time anyone else has boarded the plane.

I also hate the person who reclines their seat into my seat and then proceeds to try to rock the seat like it is a rocking chair. This happened to me last week coming back from Atlanta. I was sure that this man in front of me was going to end up in my lap with the seat. Now I know why there is so much air rage.

[travelcoupons]

Originally posted by sgtdisney
Good thread!

Mine are....

Not getting the whole can of soda on a flight.

I can't figure out US Scareways. On one flight everyone gets the whole can. On the next nobody does. On a short 1 hr. flight you get a meal. On a 3 hr flight, a bag of snack mix.
Personally, I usually don't want the whole can, and can see the reasoning behind not giving it out. (They always will give you it if you ask, however.)

As for my pet peeves....

[i]
People who jump up and stand in line by the gate when boarding of the plane begins, even before their row has been called...it just slows things up for everybody else.

Those stupid little golf carts that run you over at the airport. Especially at Charlotte and MSP. There isn't room to walk in some of the airports to begin with.

People who bang you on the head while stowing their enormous carry on luggage.

People who stow their luggage in the front and then go sit in the back of the plane.

Miles and miles of those orange road construction cones, when there is no road construction actually going on.

Toll road machines that take your change and don't give you credit for the toll paid.

People who dart back and forth from lane to lane cutting people off in traffic (without signalling.)

People who do not control their children in restaurants.

[travelcoupons]

Originally posted by sgtdisney
Good thread!

Mine are....

Not getting the whole can of soda on a flight.

I can't figure out US Scareways. On one flight everyone gets the whole can. On the next nobody does. On a short 1 hr. flight you get a meal. On a 3 hr flight, a bag of snack mix.
Personally, I usually don't want the whole can, and can see the reasoning behind not giving it out. (They always will give you it if you ask, however.)

As for my pet peeves....


People who jump up and stand in line by the gate when boarding of the plane begins, even before their row has been called...it just slows things up for everybody else.

Those stupid little golf carts that run you over at the airport. Especially at Charlotte and MSP. There isn't room to walk in some of the airports to begin with.

People who bang you on the head while stowing their enormous carry on luggage.

People who stow their luggage in the front and then go sit in the back of the plane.

Miles and miles of those orange road construction cones, when there is no road construction actually going on.

Toll road machines that take your change and don't give you credit for the toll paid.

People who dart back and forth from lane to lane cutting people off in traffic (without signalling.)

People who do not control their children in restaurants.

[sgtdisney]

Originally posted by travelcoupons


I can't figure out US Scareways. On one flight everyone gets the whole can. On the next nobody does. On a short 1 hr. flight you get a meal. On a 3 hr flight, a bag of snack mix.
Personally, I usually don't want the whole can, and can see the reasoning behind not giving it out. (They always will give you it if you ask, however.)



A couple of times they wouldn't give me the whole can. Not on USAir, I actually forgot the carrier. I mean I understand not offering it unless someone asks, but to say no when someone asks..... I really can't figure out why, unless they just like to be difficult or seriously are afraid of running out of soda. Anyway, I always make it a point to hit the FA button and request more Soda when they are done with the drink service. They love that. It would have been easier just to give it to me when I asked....... :)

[Beverly Lynn]

weird thing is I can remember a time when usair made a big thing aobut giving a whole can of pop....then to cut costs they stopped it.

[SleepyatDVC]

I have pet peeves when flying as well as driving!

When your baggage gets checked-in first but are the last ones off the plane and onto the carosel.

When they keep telling you that the flight will be on time up until boarding and then it is suddenly delayed or cancelled (sometimes you can tell it'll be delayed before they tell you - when there no plane at the gate)

When you (or your kids) REALLY have to go to the bathroom and you're not suppose to get out of your seat - heavy turbulence, getting ready for descent, etc.

The yukky, stale recycled air on the plane, especially, on the tarmac before the a/c really gets going.

Static hair and dry skin on a plane.

Dirty gas station restrooms (road trips).

Sssloooow drivers in the passing lane (left lane).

Two slow drivers next to each other on a two lane highway - each afraid to pass the other - blocking traffic behind them!!!:mad: :mad:

Drivers that pass you, cut in front of you and SLOW DOWN drastically! :mad:

Bugs, bugs, bugs on the grill and windshield of the car!

Probably many more - but I wanna stop before I get road rage!:p :p

[stsac129]

Please do not get me started on my travel pet peeves!!
First...I am not sure who gets my goat more, suits or rookies on flights.

The suits look down at people wearing shorts, jeans or t-shirts, thinking they are better then you because they have on an expensive suit. I take 8 flights a week, which means I probably make more flights a year then most of these suits, and I see them ground the gate, step in front of me when I am in line when they call first class. It shocks them when I sit down next to them in first class with my jeans and t-shirts. And I tell them that I am a Chairmen and they are confused because they are only Silver or Gold members, its as if they are saying how can this guy fly more then me, the high priced business man.

Then when it comes to the rookies...with there stupidity at security(Oh, you mean I have to take my keys and change out of my pockets??), taking forever to sit down, walking it what seems like reverse in the airport, standing right next to the carousel when the light comes on, and countless other things.

I hate poorly built and laid out airports, such as Boston, San Francisco, Seattle(possibly the worst), Dallas,and Atlanta(too big)!!

Hmm.....what else.....

UNITED AIRLINES!!!!!
DELTA!!!!
SOUTHWEST and all discount airlines!!!

Well.....let me calm down...before I blow my top.

[js]

Mine starts before we leave.
My house has to be completely clean ending/including vaccuming about 15-30 minutes before we leave. I love to come home to a clean house.

[The Hunt]

People who carry on bags that are too big...and airline employees who do nothing about it.

[TinkerPixie]

Nasty, unlit, rundown roadside reststops and idiots who slow down to take a good long look at an accident, causing the rest of us to be jammed up in traffic or in danger of having another accident.

[Chuck S]

1] It seems I'm almost always seated next to the screaming kids on a plane. Now, I know almost every young one will be antsy on take off and landing with the pressure changes...the ones I hate are the kids that scream through the entire 2 hour flight, and the parents just seem so clueless that their 'darling' is disturbing anyone...and some of these kids are at least 6 years old. Occasionally, there are those kids on a flight that are well behaved and polite...their parents should give classes! I try to make it a point to compliment them in front of their parents.

2] Folks that arrive late at the airport for their flights and hold everyone else up (and I'm not talking about late arriving transfer flights...that's not their fault.)

3] When driving there are areas where it is over 100 miles between rest areas...HELLO..we pay highway taxes for those.

4] Kids that have nothing better to do in a restaurant than visit every table...to those parents...If you don't want your progeny at your table, why would we? Don't be surprised if your kid runs back to you after I accidently spill my ice water
:rolleyes:

[skeezixspud]

... two feet away from the gate, so that the airline can claim it left the gate on time. I've had this happen to me a few times now, where the FA's actually admitted that we would not be going anywhere for awhile, but that they were doing it to improve their on-time departure statistics.

I can understand it when the gate is needed for an arriving flight, or when the weather is causing traffic control difficulties, but I'm sorry, symbolically pulling back from the gate when you know you will not get departure clearance for another hour is ridiculous, especially since passengers are not supposed to leave their seats under these circumstances.

Also a major thing: if a passenger has been the victim of circumstances and made uncomfortable by another passenger, and there is a First Class seat available, for criminy's sake let the person have it! It's not like they are going to be able to sell that seat in mid-flight. Once my son was severely ill on a flight, and I asked the FA to let the passenger on the end of the row move to an empty first class seat , to spare him the unpleasantness. The senior FA refused to let him move, even though there were 6 unused seats in First Class and the man was flying alone.

[CarolA]

I loved the quote on suits! I flew first class to Europe a few years ago and as I was boarding to come home a woman said some really hateful things about me breaking line! She announced LOUDLY that only First Class was boarding and I should wait my turn! I turned around and asked her if she would like to see my ticket that I was in first class!! Her poor husband was about to die!


My pet peeves mainly have to do with carryons. If you CANNOT lift it up over your head don't carry it. Do not assume someone will help you! Do NOT carry on everything you own! Really!

Also, if you are meeting your loved one at the end of the gateway move away from the door! Let the other people off the plane!

As for people who insisit on sliding their seat all the way back, I just stick my knee into their back! I have found this very effective. At least they are uncomfortable!

[lagasan]

1: People filling up the overhead bins before the plane is full. This happened on a flight yesterday I was in the 4th row and all the bins were full.. I had to put my backpack in a bin at row 20. Grrrrrr... someone coming from the back of the plane stopped to get his huge carry-on out of the bin right over my head. I was so ticked off! I had to wait for the whole plane to empty so I could go back to row 20 to get my bag.

2: people filling the overhead bins with their coats. Coats should be counted as one of their carry-ons if they plan to stow it. It's just common courtesy.

3: Kids SWIMMING in the hot tub

4: Touring groups overunning a hotel and ignoring the rights of other guests.

5: Oh... I forgot this is the transportation forum!!! Tee Hee!!!

6: Rental Car agents assuming you will buy their over-priced gasoline and insurance rates.

7: Incessant, loud talkers on a flight... can't you see I'm reading here?

8: The seatbelt lesson... if we don't know how to buckle a seatbelt and pull the strap by now.. we shouldn't be allowed out of the house.

Wow... what a bunch of whining! It's good to get it off my chest!

[ducklite]

I thought of another one...

People who don't buy a ticket for their under two year old and hold them as a lap baby instead. I cringe every time I see this. If you don't have the money to buy the extra ticket (and Delta offers 1/2 priced tickets for babies in car seats...) stay home. I truly do not believe that anyone who has the money to go to WDW does not have the money to buy an additional plane seat. Not only are you putting your precious childs life at risk, you are also risking the life of your fellow passengers. Want to know what happens to lap babies during turbulence? Read on...

***************************

From the AFA testimony to Congress:

Listen to the words of a young mother, Tywonda Brown, who flew on USAir Flight
1016. It was a routine flight on approach to the Charlotte airport on July 2nd, 1994.
Ms. Brown said, "Suddenly, there was a jolt and my baby flew out of my hands. I
tried to hold on to her and I couldn't ...They told me I could hold her on my lap. I
would have paid for her to sit in a seat."

The plane crashed at 160 miles per hour and try as she might to hold on to her baby,
she was unable to maintain her grasp. Tywonda's daughter, Danasia, was hurled
forward five or more rows within the plane -- and died of massive head injuries. As
she later stressed, had she known she could have put her daughter in a child restraint
seat in an unoccupied seat on the plane, she would have done so.

Want more?

"A child that breaks free during a crash or turbulence faces two serious hazards. First,
the child may be injured as she or he strikes the aircraft interior during the crash.
Second, the parents may not be able to find the infant after a crash and the child may
therefore be killed by the ensuing fire, as occurred in the Sioux City, Iowa crash.
The children who were not properly restrained soared about the aircraft. It was
difficult, and in one case impossible, to find the children after impact."

***************************

Anne

[Disneylvr]

1. The person in front of me on the airplane that reclines their seat all the way back so they are practically in my lap!

2. Resort guests that allow their room doors to slam either late at night or early in the morning.

3. Airline passengers that insist on bringing carryon bags that barely fit into overhead bins and end up squashing my smaller bags.

4. In the waiting areas of many attractions at WDW the recorded voice always says something like "In just a few moments the doors will open....." How long is a moment?? It feels like 20 minutes sometimes.

5. My "snack" on the airplane is always a bag of tasteless pretzels.

6. Cell phones ringing while we are in the middle of an attraction/ride.

I could keep going but I had better stop here. :D

[cindala]

Oh Boy!

Stolen luggage and airlines that claim no liability!!

The size of the seats in coach class.

Idiots that recline the seats making the small seat even tinier!!!





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[FergieTCat]

I don't have any original pet peeves, because you guys have covered them all. ;)

But, I think my biggest pet peeve is people who think the overhead bin is their own personal closet. I constantly fly back and forth to West Palm Beach (my parents live there) and it's always a struggle to find room in the overhead bin. Additionally, I think that if you have 2 carry-on pieces, you should be required to put one under the seat in front of you. I guess this is impossible to enforce, but then again, so is common courtesy.

Also, a can of soda costs maybe 30 cents. If U.S. Airways would like to raise my ticket price by 50 cents to cover a WHOLE can of soda, and make a 20 cent profit, so be it.

Donna

[Beverly Lynn]

anne there are a lot of people who do not want to spend the extra money for that seat for their "lap" child. even the half price portion of it. they all hope that there will be an open seat next to them that they might put that child in for free. When my child was 9 mths old she flew for the first time on DL to melbourne fl. and after that cramped plane all squashed in like sardines and having to hold her and having no room to even put my drink...I learned my lesson. after that I bought her the half priced tkt and now she is getting ready to have her first ftp tkt. (thats frequnet traveler tkt) if it wasn't for the first 2 flts being on DL she would have had her first tkt on usair a long time ago.

I hate when parent don't control their kids during the flight adn they kick the back of your seat or pull the hair on the top of your head etc. but then again I have no problem letting the parents know how annoying their child is.

[TSI_Fan]

Just a couple here:

<b>In the air..</b>
*Strangers who insist on talking to you during the entire plane flight. I don't mind some small-talk, but when I buy a magazine that I look forward to reading during the flight..I want to actually be able to read it and enjoy it.

*Seeing overly-happy flight attendants on a 7am flight. Ok, I'm not a morning person and I haven't had a good chance to wake up, but do you have to be so darn happy? ugh. ;)

*People who stop incoming passenger boarding traffic so they can get their carry-on into an overhead bin. Maybe just get into your row and do it from there please? (I can)

*Airline passengers who won't let you out of your row so you can exit the plane. Ugh!

*That traffic jam at the gate that you have to maneuver around to find the rest of your party.

<b>On the ground...</b>
* People who will not pass semis, thus creating a traffic jam behind them.

*People who swerve across 2 lanes in order to not miss an exit.

*People who swerve into another lane because they didn't believe it was "Exit only"

*Nosy drivers that insist on slowing down at the scene of an accident, when the incident has been moved safely off the highway, or happened in the median, a safe distance from the highway. Once you get past that it's clear sailing, but there's always those people that *must* see what is going on.

[Kermit]

The people who, when your flight was delayed, tell you that you better move fast when the plane stops because they have a connection to catch. We all had the same delay and are just as late to where we're going! And have you ever been able to move fast when the plane starts unloading? I don't think so. It just takes a while to get all of those people out one door. Deal with it.

[ParkFreak]

I know this is a totally personal pet peeve, but I cannot stand the time between landing and disembarking the plane! I only use travelocity now because I can pick the seats available that are closest to the exit. I consider myself an extremely easy going person, but trying to get off the plane (and I am a very good flyer) and seeing people take their time getting their carry ons, children, etc. off the plane makes me crazy!

This is the only personality trait that I have that I will admit is borderline manic, phobic, what have you! I guess it could be worse!

[AllanJ]

Note: 100% of absolutely everything about automobile traffic is a pet peeve so no need to say any of them here.

A big big problem with baggage people try to carry on board is that a lot of it is not suitable packed to be checked. WIth so much stuff bought at Disney World to take home, Orlando airport has to deal with that a lot. It is about time that airlines issued reservations for overhead bin space. Like Fastpass except we are dealing with space on a scale of front to rear of the plane as opposed to time on a scale of opening hour to closing hour of the park. Like Fastpass, only so many of them will be issued per airplane flight, whatever intervening space that remains is up for grabs.

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"We can reserve an airplane seat or a hotel room but why can't we reserve a parking space at the airport?"

[ducklite]

Ooohhh--

I have another one!!!

The plane is at the gate, the jetway has been pulled forward, and it's time to get off. Yet one idiot in a forward row always holds up traffic trying to get their heavy bag out of the overhead, yadda yadda and get themselves together. ACK! GET OUTTADAWAY!!! When my son was young and it took us a while to get off the plane, we waited until everyone was off, then got up, got ourselves together and disembarked. I HATE people who block aisles trying to get all their carryons together to get off the plane. Recently I've become very vocal and yelled up to ask them to step back into their row and let the other pax off while they get organized. I'm simply sick and tired of inconsiderate boors on airplanes. They should have special "I don't fly often and have no idea what I'm doing" sections in the back of the planes so taht people who can get their belongings out of the over head and down the aisle in under 3 seconds can get out before the bumbling and fumbling begins...

Anne

[AllanJ]

One I read about the police pulling over the first and second cars to let those behind pass. The first was pulled over for going too slow, the second was pulled over for not being brave enough to overtake and making the two together much more difficult for anyone else to overtake.

So why doesn't the third person waiting to get off the plane tell the second person to move back into the row and then the third person pushes past the first person fumbling with luggage?

(Or the fourth person telling the third and second to move back into rows and then advance up to the first perssoon...)

[VickiVM]

I can see how inpatient some of you are while traveling what with those people who board/deplane too slowly, have trouble lifting their carryons into the bins, encounter chirpy flight attendants, etc. I consider myself pretty tolerable while traveling. I have 3 small children and I'm sure I have pissed off someone out there because they are not on their best behavior 24/7. I try not to look like an idiot or injure anybody while trying to lift my carryon into the bins...but when you're a short female lacking in upper body strength and have to lift even a small bag way above your head...well, I'm not that snappy about it. But unless someone is outright rude or hateful I don't let the behavior/actions of others "peeve" me...until this past flight from Chicago. Now, as I mentioned, my children need constant supervision and correction in order to be fit to take into public so I don't kid myself for a moment that I can take a vacation from that duty - ever. But on my 2 1/2 hr flight back from Chicago a group of people (I'm presuming co-workers or associates) were traveling with their families of small children, from toddler age to around 6. There were about 6 children or so all seated together...right in front on me and my husband (we were without children this time). I had settled in to finish my book. When the fasten seat belt sign went off, the kids started roaming the aisles. Then the moms did. There was jumping on the seat, swinging from mom on the aisle and lots of back and forth from one row to another. Now, the children weren't rude or fussy...just rambunctious. Our back section of the plane was a regular Mommy and Me class. A few times I had to move to the middle seat because I had someone's mommy's back side in my face as she bent over to swing her small one with her arms. The poor attendants (who said nothing, just smiled) had the hardest time serving the drinks and getting by this group of young/hip soccer moms. Needless to say, the noise level was like that of grade school cafeteria (and smelled like a daycare nursery at diaper change time) and I got maybe 4 pages read of my book. Now although no one was blatantly rude or hateful, I consider that to be EXTREMELY inconsiderate and selfish. So that is now my new travel pet peeve - parents who think their affluency and gorgeous children gives them the right to behave as though everyone else exists simply for their benefit.

[AllanJ]

Those children need to have their heads

[AllanJ]

patted. And for the lady who put her rear in your face, perhaps a playful pinch would not be inappropriate even if the face and fingers were a man's.

And men are also to blame, although what they put in people's faces is usually a tote bag as opposed to a rump.

If you can't lift your bag into the overhead, either pack less in it or put it under the seat.

I'm still looking for that clipping with a picture of a child sailing through the air from one adult's outstretched arms to another's. This was some advertisement I tore out of an airline's magazine taken from a seat back some years ago. I was planning to put it on a web page captioned "A sight we should never see". (How come all football passes are not complete?) But if the plane hit turbulence youwould have seen that with no outstretched arms to catch the child.

Bumper sticker: "Have you hugged a kid today?"

[ducklite]

Vicki-

I am not nearly as nice as you. I would have told them in no uncertain terms to shut their gobs and get their butts out of my face.

And then I would have gave them some really enlightening info about how turbulence can be unexpected, and that the chances of not being injured in turbulence when not belted in a low. In fact I would have scared the daylights out of them.

And Vicki-- not to be rude, but if you can't lift it, don't carry it on.

Anne

[Trekker]

I have 2 that I've been reminded of here:

1. The folks in the back of the plane who use the OH bins in the front - where is thier common sense / common courtesy?

2. The drivers who slow to a snails pace to see the accident on the side of the road. They will cause the next accident!

[Tina]

People who do not understand the phrase "No flash photography" in attractions. No one enjoys seeing spots for 10 minutes after having a flash go off beside your face.

People who stop suddenly in the flow of traffic, like a deer caught in the headlights. Never mind the 15,000 people charging behind you! Move to the side, then stop! :mad:

People who cannot control their children in public places, such as restaurants. Yes, they are on vacation, but so am I! I do not like paying top $ at a restaurant, only to spend it listening to your child scream and throw food. I also don't think its cute when you child hangs over the back of the booth into MY space.

Parents who push their children beyond their limits and then scream at them for being tired, crabby, or unruly. Take them back to the room for a break!

Children running loose on airplanes. I once had a child poke his head out between my feet under my seat!!! Ditto for those kids who constantly kick the back of my seat throughout the flight.

I could probably go on and on, but I'll stop for now.

[Ityldu]

Well, I though mine was original, but someone finally took it. I hate to see exhausted children crying at parks or carnivals or whatever because their parents were too selfish to leave earlier.

My other is kids without their own seat on a plane and especially not buckled up in cars and planes. I just don't get it. My 3 sisters just bought million dollar homes and they refuse to spend the extra money for an extra seat. One just flew to Australia for a month without a seat for her 1YO. Can someone please explain how you can justify this? I tell the story over and over of our last flight when our 2YO was just potty trained. He had his own seat w/car seat and had to go to bathroom desperately. There was a little turbulence, but we decided not to risk it. Lucky for us. Within seconds the turbulence was so bad, even those buckled in had trouble staying in their seats. It was horrible and the whole time my son kept screaming he had to go. When we told him it was okay to go in his pants he broke our heart when he yelled that he couldn't because he didn't want to get in trouble and upset us. My motto is I'd rather my kid be uncomfortable for a couple hours then dead forever.

Thanks for letting me vent.

[VickiVM]

I knew in some form or fashion I would get blasted. Let me clarify. I didn't say I couldn't lift my carryon into the bin...I just am not snappy about it. I can't just pick it up one handed and toss it in as I take my seat. I am EXTREMELY conscientious of the others behind me and take an extra moment so as NOT to whack anyone or lose my balance. But I'm sure the 10 seconds or so it takes to stowe it is annoying to someone out there...

[AllanJ]

>>> ok to go in his pants...
Did he ever get in trouble for wetting his pants? How come? Did you ever get upset for that? Why???
Tell him to "it is ok but also see if he can catch some (DON'T SAY 'ALL') of it in the air sickness bag". Practice at home sitting in the bathtub. A small girl can loosen the seat belt, rise up a bit, and with the parent's help do the same.

>>> his head up between your legs from under the seat
>>> hanging over the [restaurant] booth
That definitely calls for some gentle tousling. Politicians do it all the time.

>>> push their children beyond their limits and then scream at them for being ...
How about bosses pushing their employees ... and then penalizing them for mishaps? Time for the "I Can't" newspeak philosophy. "I Can't" is not insubordination or disobedience. An employee may reject any activity that s/he feels may lead to something bad happening to him/her and the employer is certainly capable of modifying things and eliminating all chance of that something bad's happening and after that the employee will do the task.

[Pumbaa_]

Aren't people fun?

Beverly Lynn, you made my day! I would have loved to have seen that child's face when you opened that door! What were those parents thinking? One time when we were there, and had a connecting door, the couple started fighting at 6am while packing for their flight. Happy trails folks!

I also have to hop onto that plane complaint. I think the crying, kicking my seat, whining kid thing is my least favorite. I love booking my own flights now and I book as close to the front as I can and i monitor the flight to see if I can move up. I find that alone makes it better. (The last flight, i was down at the luggage looking fo rmy TTC driver and he looked at his watch and said WOW!)

[Beanie]

I agree with the person who said "People who allow their children to kick the back of my seat in an airplane" I would never allow my kids to do this, so neither should they! :(

I also agree on the whole can of soda...what is up with that?? :confused:

Those are my biggest pet peeves!!

[goofyme]

before i begin, let me inform you i'm a fairly frequent leisure flyer where the flight is no longer the adventure..

Peeves:
*travelers who sit in my assigned window seat before i get there and pretend to be asleep
*businessmen and women who look at me meanly just because i have my three kids with me (even though they act good most of the time)
*people who bring their computers on board, do 10 minutes of buisness, then play games or watch a DVD while i try to sleep with their bright screen in my face
*people in the aisle seat who get angry when you get up to go to the restroom
*loud obnoxious people doing business on their cellular phone who talk as loud as they can all the way until the door is closed so we can know how important they are
*

[disneydreamerinny]

**Bumpy flights

**My daughters soda spilling all over her lap and mine from the bumpy flights.

**Not being able to get up and go to the bathroom because of the bumpy flights.

**Having to wear your seatbelt the whole flight because of the bumpy flights.

**Having to sit and pray that we dont crash because of the bumpy flights.

**The bumpy landings!!

**The feeling that the whole plane is going to tip over because of the bumpy landing.

I have flown 3 times in my life and each and every flight was like this.. I had one flight that the landing was so smooth you didnt even know you had touched down. As we were exiting the plane we noticed that it was a FEMALE PILOT!! Ha! I loved it!

[Beverly Lynn]

I just flew in yesterday from MCO and both of my flights were uneventful. except for the germans who spoke no english and were standing in the aisle screaming at each other about who was going to sit where. they held us up from departing on time. the flt attnds had a hard time getting them to take their seats. there were 10 of them.


one of my pet peeves is people carrying their carry ons thru the aisle hitting everyone as they go down the dang aisle. hello if you're hitting people and they are saying something to you then either turn your bag so it doesn't do that or pick it up and carry it in the air! DUH!

[Dee & Greg]

People who grab the top of your plane seat from behind to ease themselves into their seat. Or use your seat to heft themselves out of their seat. I've had people yank my hair when they do this. Ouch!

Entire families that line up at the baggage carousel; then keep all of their luggage right around them as it comes off the belt... making their own "mountain" so you can't get close to the carousel.

[friskykitten]

Well, I can tell that I am going to upset some travelers on my next plane trip. I am extemely short, less than 5' tall, so I will have to kindly ask someone to help me put my bag in the overhead bin. Along with my daughters. I didn't realize that bothered so many people. I am usually so independent. (sigh) Oh well, I can't get any taller so I will just have to live with knowing I am ruining someones day!! :eek:

Still I can't help but be excited about flying!!!! :) Love the thread Beverly Lynn!!

[VickiVM]

Friskykitten,
Oh, honey, don't be surprised if you get the "if-you-can't-stowe-it-then-don't-bring-it" response. Apparently, patience and kindness is not required to travel.

[friskykitten]

Thanks Vicki! It is very comforting knowing that I am not the only short annoying adult in this world! ;) LOL!!!

A pet peeve of mine is definately sitting on the plane waiting forever to take-off or to get off. Wow! That can take forever!!! Or cashiers that completely overlook me and go straight to the next tall adult asking what they can get for them. And the tall adult who has been there for 30 seconds, knowing I was their first taking advantage of it and making me wait even longer. ( I don't speak up very often, as I am so short my voice only comes out as a small squeak....:D ) It's like HELLO!! I am right here, I am a real person not some lost kid, and it is MY TURN!!!

Nope, no repressed negative feelings here!

[pnelson]

I'm surprised it bothers so many people when the person in front of them reclines their seat. I do this on long flights and have never given it a thought. What's so bad about reclining a seat that is supposed to recline?

[ducklite]

Frisky--

I'm not trying to be rude, but I am wondering why you don't just put your carryon under the seat in front of you? Again, not trying to be rude, but you don't need the leg room. It would certainly help to save the overhead space for pax who do need the leg room.

Anne

[friskykitten]

Hey ducklite!

I guess it is my obssesive compulsiveness. I don't want my nice clean suitcase on that dirty airplane floor!:D

But you are right that would be a good remedy. (I have only flown once......another pet peeve of someone else's......rookies!!)

On the other hand, believe it or not........I also find the need for more leg room on those flights!! I don't know how those larger than me can stand it! I get so cramped sitting there in that tiny space. (Flew Northwest)

Hey ducklite! Will you put my bag up there for me??? LOL!!! Just kidding! :D

[sgtdisney]

Originally posted by pnelson
I'm surprised it bothers so many people when the person in front of them reclines their seat. I do this on long flights and have never given it a thought. What's so bad about reclining a seat that is supposed to recline?

It depends on the time of day and the degree of the recline. I have no issue with a seat being reclined slightly just so the person isn't sitting straight up. I also don't mind if it is a long flight or especially at night. However when there is a meal service or a drink service, reclining your seat fully is pretty rude as far as I am concerned. When the seat in front of you is reclined and you don't recline your seat fully, you have a seat back right in your face. This makes it hard to eat or drink and even read sometimes. This wouldn't be an issue if the airlines didn't have such incredibly small seat pitches, but in this day and age when space is at a premium, it makes it really inconvenient to have a seat right in your face. I guess it is just a consideration for the person behind you. Much like it is equally rude to be bumping, kicking, nudging the seat in front of you.

[SleepyatDVC]

Hi friskykitten!

Greetings from one shorty to another! 5'1" here - so too short to even put a coat up there!:rolleyes:

I never carry anything heavy or big anyway - just a small duffle or backpack. It's usually those bulky winter jackets that really need to go up in the overhead. And like I said - I can't reach!:o

Here's what I do - I scoot into my row out of the way of the people behind me :), dump my stuff on the seat, slip out of one shoe, step up on the seat so I'm taller, and throw my stuff up there! Since, it's usually coats or small bags, I usually can find space.

Of course, someone will probably object to me standing on the seat WITHOUT shoes, but the bottom of shoes are filthy, I refuse to put it on the seat!

If I bring anything bulkier or heavier onto the plane, I bring my very own luggage handler - my much taller dh!;)

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


another pet peeve:

People behind me trying to get luggage OUT of the overhead directly over my head when I'm lining up in the aisle to disembark - it's easy to reach over my head 'cause of my height, I guess. Due to the laws of gravity & physics and because the person is usually stretching, over-reaching and off balance, if I don't quickly poke the person in front of me forward or squeeze in with the person seated in the row next to me, I usually get a large bag fall on top of me or at least get my head or shoulder wacked by a suitcase!:(

[Stinky_Pete]

Here's what I do - I scoot into my row out of the way of the people behind me , dump my stuff on the seat, slip out of one shoe, step up on the seat so I'm taller, and throw my stuff up there! Since, it's usually coats or small bags, I usually can find space.

No complaint from me -- I think this is a great strategy! Especially the "scooting into your row" part. That's hits my peeve on the head. I don't care how long it takes people to stow their stuff in the overhead bin -- I think they should take as much time as they need. But if they can't do it quickly then I would appreciate it if they got out of the way of those still trying to board the plane, then took care of that when there was a break in the crowd.

[ducklite]

Grace has a great solution! I've seen lots of people do this. It gets you out of the aisleway quickly, and you manage your own lugage. My mom is on the vertically challenged side, and that's exactly what she does when she flies alone.

Frisky--I'm tall (for a woman--5'8") and I STILL have people reaching over my head to get things in and out of bins. I can't tell you how many times I've been whacked on the head by Joe "I'm more important than anyboby on this plane" Smith who has a seat in the back of the plane, but is up at landing before the seatbelt sign is off, has stowed his oversized, heavy bag over my seat towards the front rather than put it over his own over inflated head, run up the aisle and grabbed the bag, as I was standing up to get off the plane in an orderly fashion, then blocked forward rows from deplaning because he has to fish for his cell phone. ARGH!

BTW- I'm not talking aout a late flight with people who have tight connections getting off first. By all means. I'm talking about inconsiderate people.

Anne

[Beverly Lynn]

what about mr Joe traveler who insists on coming intot he aisle to get his carry on in the overhead bin even tho there is no room for him to get out? they just push until they get in there pushing anyone in the aisle out of their way and into everyone else or the seats.

personally if you are short then I would either step on the seat to get into the overhead for my bags or ask the flt attnd. that is part of their job.

we flew in on an airbus119 and it was actually pretty roomy. much nicer than a 737. even with the seat in front of me reclined all the way back using my tray table for our drinks was ok. I really like the airbuses. wish they had more of them.

[ducklite]

Beverly Lynn-

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that at least one of the FA Unions got it written into their contract that FA's do NOT have to assist pax with bags into overhead space. There were too many back injuries happening. If I'm wrong, I see it coming at any rate.

I agree on the Mr. Joe Traveller thing--that's exactly who I was trying to describe in my earlier post.

Anne

(Edited to correct a typo)

[The Hunt]

I have absolutely no problem helping a short, elderly, or even weak person out by putting a bag in the overhead for them--as long as it is a reasonable carry-on bag, and not a giant bulging bag, an oddshaped object that takes up all the room, etc. Those overhead bins are for everyone, and I don't think you should be excluded from using it just because you can't lift a reasonable bag up there.

My pet peeve is people who can't wait their turn, either getting on or off the plane.

[NancyIL]

Some of you are a bit impatient about having to wait an extra 10 seconds for someone to retrieve their overhead luggage! I usually sit by the window, so there's at least one person (sometimes 2) closer to the aisle than I am. When the plane pulls up to the gate, I can't even attempt to get my belongings out of the overhead bin until the people next to have gotten out of MY way! If you're unlucky enough to be behind me, you're just gonna have to wait until I get my stuff out of the overhead bin!;)

[friskykitten]

Sleepy! I love the idea and will put it to good use this weekend and in November. In fact I love everyone's ideas. So far I have only really encountered nice travellers but I do hate waiting to get off of the plane. I am one who generally waits until everyone gets by before getting my stuff....mainly because of the trouble it takes to get it down....but if you are near the back of the plane it can take ages to get off!!! What on earth are those people near the exit doing to make the wait so freakin' long???? Get your bags and get off so I can do the same!!! I don't really mind the crying babies. I mean no matter what they try a parent cannot control whether a baby feels like crying or not. And it is unsettling to see a baby on someone's lap when the parents are nicely buckled in. I know most flights are generally smooth but one bad pocket of turbulance and you could have one badly injured child ( or adult, depending on who isn't buckled in) Still, I can't complain too much.....look at how many kids aren't in the proper restraints for their age/size in motor vehicles!!! That really gets me!!!

[skeezixspud]

... they were filing lots of worker's comp claims for back injuries, so most of the airlines decided that telling them they didn't have to lift luggage was a good concession to give. (Most FA comp claims are for injuries caused by food carts, I guess that's another way SWA keeps costs down! ;)) My personal belief is that it is only polite for passengers with items in the overhead bins to let passengers with no bags to retrieve off the plane first. I don't go into the bin until the area around me is clear (and yes, I do stand on the seat!)

[sgtdisney]

When I travel with my family, I always wait until everyone else deplanes before I even stand up. We have a 4 year old and always have a couple of extra bags. I always find it funny to see everyone in such a hurry to get off the plane. Reaching for bags , pushing and shoving and such and then meeting up with them again at the baggage claim after I leisurely exited the aircraft and made my way to baggage claim. I understand why people who have to make connections are in a hurry to get off the plane, but when you have checked your luggage and need to claim it, no matter how fast you get off the plane, you are not going to get out of the airport any faster than the person who takes their time.

[Beverly Lynn]

nope they are still to assist you if you need help. thats part of their job. the bags needed to help lift are under 45 lbs. or at least this is what they are supposed to be. this is on usair so some of the other carriers might be different. believe it or not most of the comp injuries are for carpel tunnel from opening pop cans............

[tarmand]

I am suprised no one else has my pet peeve.

Moving conveyor sidewalks and people who block them. I have always been taught that a moving sidewalk is not a "lazy man's ride". You are supposed to walk also. If you can't or won't walk, please stay to the right side so that people who are walking can get by. And yes, I do walk on escalators too. I guess I'm always trying to get somewhere quickly. So much to do - so little time!

[Stinky_Pete]

tarmand - that's a good one. I always try to stay to the right on the sidewalk because I'm usually trying to catch a break from carrying my bags (some moving sidewalks actually have signs recommending this), but I see people trying to stand side-by-side with their traveling companions all the time, sign or not. It's kind of like the huge groups who feel the need to walk side-by-side down a side walk or through a mall, taking up the entire width of the walkway, even though there's someone approaching them, who will have to walk in the street if they don't move a bit. Do they move? NOOOOOO.

[friskykitten]

You know that moving sidewalk, conveyer thing bugs the heck out of me too but......it bugs me the most at the very end of Space Mountain in the Magic Kingdom. If people would either move or stay to one side I could get out of the exit and onto other things that much quicker!!!;)

[ducklite]

Beverly- That might be with US, but I am almost certain that some combination two of AA, DL, CO or UA have in their union contracts that they do not have to assist if they don't want to. In thinking about the carriers I fly, I can make a safe assumption that CO is one of them. My last few lights on CO they didn't seem to want to offer much help, other than pointing out open space.

I won't fly Untied (Thank GOD your merger didn't go through--what would I have done with 150k in ff miles??) so I can't comment on them. On a recent AA flight, as I was checking in, I saw the ticket counter agents refuse to move two bags that were well over 75 lbs. I don't know what people could pack that would weight that much! The agents required the pax to put the bags onto the conveyor belt behind the desk, it took two people to move them. Personally that screams take your stuff to air cargo or PDQ/Dash to me :-)

I'm flying US in 9 days. According to the US website, my flights in both directions are "sold out". I'll use it to my advantage though...I don't have to be on those flights. Loving the thought of an upgrade and voucher ;-)

Anne

[ducklite]

Oh YES! The people who park on the moving walk ways!! I have no problem with people who choose to stand rather than walk. What I do have a problem with are the people who make nasty comments and give you rude looks when you politely say "excuse me" so you can pass on the left. Duh!

Anne