$49.00 code, Why is it being deleted from posts

[realpatt]

Why is the 49.00 budget resort code being deleted from posts?

[Disneyfun1]

last week over on the resort board, a code was posted and all h*ll broke loose. Moderators said we are no longer allowed to post any codes unless they are verified by them first. Apparently the code was for only certain states, then all states, then certain states again......either way im happy, i got in when it was all states.....GF 199/night! :D :D

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[Dagny]

Disney occassionally sends out promotional offers to certain States, geographically areas or some other screening criteria. The codes are intended for those persons only so... we do not permit these codes to be posted unless we can verify that the offer is available to all guests without restriction.

I hope this clears up any confusion. Please feel free to email me or one of the other moderators if you have any questions!

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[lydia75]

Dagny, I sure wish this had been said earlier because I actually got a promotion, When I called, there was nothing available.
I can now see why there is nothing available for those who actually received the invitation.
:(

[TravelSheryl]

Actually, it was posted earlier. It's just been bumped down the board. See Posting Guidelines (http://wdwinfo.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y&a=tpc&s=40009993&f=35009194&m=7950923611)

[BethR]

I am sorry that you missed out on something that you were entitled to! <IMG WIDTH="15" HEIGHT="15" SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif" alt="red face">
This is exactly the reasons that we do not allow codes that are meant for SPECIFIC people/areas to be posted here. That is listed in our Guidelines for posting, as TravelSheryl has pointed out.
Unfortunately, no one here on the DIS was aware that this WAS a CODE discount for a day or so and therefore this information was put out.
When we discovered there was a CODE involved, that is when we started deleted the CODES from the posts.
We apologize for any confusion.
And I hope that something even better comes up for you Lydia. You deserve it. I also encourage you to call CRO again asking for this discount. We all have seen that persistance in these matters often pays off.

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[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

The $49 code was not for certain states, it was for everyone. I believe that the moderators shouldn't delete a code unless they are 100% sure that it is only for certain people. The $49 code was for everyone, but some people didn't do their research, and they deleted it. This code would allow people who can't usually stay inside WDW to do so, but instead of doing their homework, someone decided to delete it. The DIS' code policy is OK, but the way it is enforced is ridiculous.

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[a1a]

Why would it matter if the code was for everyone? If a person is going to call CRO for reservations, wouldn't they find out if they were ineligible for a particular discount? Are people deleting information intended for public viewing for their own benefit? I don't know how that could be, but can't think of any explanation that makes sense. I have read the reasons given, but that doesn't make sense to me either. Obviously it doesn't make sense to many posters.

Is there anyone out there that wants to start a board of their own with this deletable information?

It might be helpful if moderators/webmaster ensured codes were posted with all the appropriate information if there is any, like states that are elibible or inelibible, so that we could ask when calling CRO, instead of deleting information that obviously many people want, and many people are trying to share.

It seems heavy handed and unnecessary for moderators/webmaster to delete information that is intended to help others in this "open forum". Isn't that what we are all here for? I'm spending time here to get some assistance in planning my trip, and financial is the best kind of assistance. CRO isn't always that helpful or knowledgable about all these discounts that are available. It used to be quite a lifesaver when posters could help each other.

I have seen people leave these boards, because they feel that there are alterior motives for this information to be deleted. Wouldn't want to see it happen with more people. I may be the next.

[This message was edited by a1a on 03-15-01 at 07:33 PM.]

[melissa173]

This code was definately NOT for certain areas only. I used this code just last night. After hearing my long Italian last name, CRO asked me how I found out about this code. He said that it was printed in an hispanic Florida newspaper. He told me that it was not intended for hispanic people only, as that would be descrimination and that it was available for EVERYBODY. However, there are only a certain amount of rooms available at this special discount.

I think the moderators jumped the gun on this one, and maybe should reconsider allowing the code so others who can't afford to stay onsite can have that opportunity.

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[a1a]

bump!!!!

[TravelSheryl]

Excellent post, a1a, with which I agree wholeheartedly. The Internet is for the sharing of information. Unless there is something illegal posted, I feel that this information should be available and that it is up to the merchant to police the use of any targeted promotions.

I also find it interesting that the posting guidelines are selectively enforced (specifically thinking about the clip art rules).

[baileybrad]

then it is a shame that it can't be shared. As many folks know CRS is very inconsistent when it comes to providing information. If you do not ask the questions in a certain way you may lose out on something that is readily available to folks who know "the secret handshake". I am not talking about codes that have been mailed out to certain groups. These deletions make sense. But to do it arbitrarily seems unfair. That said I can't wait for the new Pop Century resorts to open, Disney may have to practically give away rooms in the off-season. We can only hope that if the rooms are reduced at the AS due to the popularity of the new budget resorts that the information will be allowed to be exchanged on these boards.

[BethR]

I am sorry that some of you feel like we are working against you on this issue. :(
We truly are NOT! We truly ARE here to assist you to have the BEST and LEAST expensive WDW trip that you can have.
This whole "code issue" is making a LOT of us CRAZY!!! Contrary to popular belief, we are NOT Disney Insiders here and we learn about things RIGHT FROM THESE BOARDS! So at first we read that this is NOT a code discount, then we read that it IS a code discount. Then we read that it is meant for some states, then we read that it is meant for ANY states. First we read that the discount has no name, then we read that it DOES have a name. We read that there are NO postcards, then we read that there ARE postcards. As frustrated as you all are, we are equally so. And it makes it TREMENDOUSLY difficult to make decisions and to figure how this fits into our Guidelines for Posting.
As has been stated NUMEROUS times, we do not allow codes to be posted since we feel that the abuse of them will lead to the discontinuation of them. As you have read above, Lydia DID get a postcard with a code and could NOT use it since the rate had been "used up." Makes you wonder if she would have gotten the rate that she was offered if so many of us had not called for WHATEVER rate.
I agree with all of you - this is EXTREMELY frustrating - and I have to say that CRO is to blame. I can't wait until this is over...

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[WebmasterPete]

I completely understand everyone's frustration on this, and as I have posted before, we have good reasons for these guidelines. You may not agree with them, you may not like them, and I respect that. But also, many of you should also respect the fact that there may be things about running a site of this size that you might not be able to appreciate. There are many dynamics that are in place with issues like this, and I have to consider all of them, not just a few. That is how these guidelines are developed and enforced.

The confusion on discount codes comes directly from Disney, and their complete lack of any reasonable communication on what these codes are and who they are for. That is where the problem lies right now. We are doing our best to ensure the codes are accurate and for everyone. Just because someone posts here that a particular code is for 'everybody' does not make it so. That is how some of these issues get started, and I've taken the responsibility to try and check these things for the benefit of our visitors, not for their detriment. If someone chooses to start their own forum to post these codes, you have my blessing, but until such time as Disney implements a reasonable system of communication within CRO to communicate and enforce their guidelines, I feel that we have no choice but show due diligence in what is posted here.

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[AF Brenda]

Yes, I agree that this board is quite useful for helping everyone (including me!) save money on a Disney vacation. And I think this is a great place for sharing money saving strategies. But, we need only look on this board from last week to see what happens when codes are posted without first knowing to whom they apply. CRO receives hundreds, if not thousands of additional calls from people not entitled to the discounts, confusion ensues, and lots of folks come away unhappy, and irritated because CRO couldn't make a discount come up for them. Many of these codes are targeted to a specific population, be it the Northeast corridor, FL residents, etc. This is a marketing strategy that is employed by many companies, not just Disney. I agree that they need to revamp CRO and that additional training is obviously needed for many of the CMs manning the phones there. However, in our zeal to save a few dollars (or a lot of dollars), many of us, myself included, have adopted an attitude of "If he gets the discount, so should I!". Not always going to happen folks. I've adopted the attitude that I will book where I can afford, and try to do better through discounts. If I can't, so be it, if I can, it will be a bonus.

On the (somewhat) brighter side, I think that we will see additional discounts in the near future. As the economy slows down and consumer confidence wanes, there will be alot of people who either decide not to do Disney at all, or they will opt to save money by staying offsite. As Disney sees their rooms sitting empty, they will continue to offer discounts in order to fill these rooms.

Lastly, let's really try to keep these boards friendly! We should always remember that there are real people, human beings at the other end of these posts, and we should not say things here that we would not be willing to say to someone face to face.

Just my .02

[realpatt]

There is a web site that is positing codes http://www.marywaring.com/saveonwdw.htm, The person who is running this site is joining forces with http://wdwig.com/contents.htm#tik and later this month will have information made available on Deb's site.

I wonder if codes could be listed on the "rumor board" as the primary concern listed is that we will get misinformation and not get the deal we thought. There is always that risk, so maybe having the codes on the rumor board would remind us that all it is a rumor and we need to each check it out carefully for ourselves, not simply rely on infor on this board. In terms of the concern that Disney will discontinue specials if they are abused (taking advantage of an opportunity does not constitute abuse) is unlikely. Disney is a big company and they offer these "specials" for their own benefit, not as a special favor or charitable denotations to special groups. In the big scheme of things there probably are not all that many peole that are obsessed enought with getting a great deal that they spend hours on sites like this trying to get all the inside scoop. So if we come across a deal once in awhile, I think we have done our homework and deserve it. I truely believe that Disney can take care of itself and doesn't need to be protected from the likes of people who surf Disney internet sites.

PS I was able to successfully get the code by e-mailing others who had listed the code in their post and had it deleted. I called and got the rate and was told specifically that there were not any restrictions or requirements for this rate. I was informed that the rate was intended for the hispanic community, but that they had to give it to anyone who called and requested it.

[Trekker]

I wish people could understand that these are Pete's boards, and he has every right to establish and enforce rules for use.

I firmly believe if you do not want to abide by the rules that he has every right to ask you to leave the boards.

This is just the same as if you were a guest in my house, where I do not allow smoking or vulgar language, if you choose not to follow those rules I would ask you to leave. In that case you could find a house to go to that allows smoking and vulgar language.

Just like if you do not like the rules here.

I would also like to remind you this is a free service, we should all be thrilled that Pete has made these boards available and show him a little respect.

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[BethR]

Thank you WDWTrekker! :)

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[Pugsley]

Doesn't anybody think it's sad that this particular code was meant for people who may be unable to visit WDW without a discount like this, but instead people like us use it all up. I hate to generalize, but by "people like us" I mean people who are comfortable enough financially to have a computer, who are probably relatively intelligent (to find this site and do the research to find the discounts) and probably mostly have decent jobs, and many of whom visit WDW frequently. I think it's very indicative of the state of our society that we feel that all that is important is that WE GET OURS and who cares about anyone else. I'm with Pete on this (even though he doesn't need my support; it's his site and he can do as he pleases). I totally believe that Disney will stop doing promotions like this soon because of the information getting out to too many people and not to their intended targets.

[TravelSheryl]

Pugsley, targeted promotions are an everyday occurrence in many lines of business, not just travel. It's up to the merchant to police their promotions. I say if you learn of a deal, take advantage of it as long as no laws are being broken. Just because I live in one state and you live in another, that no more entitles you to a special rate than anyone else*. If a promotion is based on the amount of past business you've given to that merchant, that's one thing, but simply based on your domicile or ethnicity is ridiculous, in my opinion.

As stated earlier, it was said that this promo was targeted to a specific ethnic group. If that's the case, it is illegal to mandate that one belong to that ethnicity to qualify. Targeting is one thing, but requiring is something altogether different.

*Excepting Florida resident rates because those are based on the assumption of increased business due to proximity.

[GentleBen]

The latest one now is African/American, but you don't have to be black to get it. I have no idea what will come out next with them. This is getting so stupid.

[lydia75]

GentleBen, this is not meant to offend you, but some of us may take offense to what you posted.

My response to that is, do you think its called that in celebration of African/American heritage month, which by the way was Feburary?
Just a thought. As all of us know, or I hope we do, Disney does not discriminate. The titles of their specials are not meant that only one ethnic group can book it. Its so that we can all celebrate in ones heritage.
:D

[FriendsOfEeyore]

When I called and asked about the "Fall Value Rate" of $49 per night, my CM could not find anything. I mentioned the code that had been listed on this site (told her that I got it from a friend.) She told me that it was a valid code that was listed in hispanic speaking papers, but said that I could use it. I REFUSED! While she searched for other low rates, we talked. She learned that my father-in-law lives about 45 minutes south of WDW. She mentioned a great $49 rate for FL residents. She asked me to have my father-in-law call her, and book our stay. I REFUSED! I was not looking for any discount that was not intended for me, or available to everyone. She searched a little more, and found a different code. She told me the code (funny thing, is that only the last letter changed from the FL resident code and it had the same description), and I posted here. Sorry, about that Pete. I wasn't thinking; she told me the code was available to anyone, anywhere. I did get the $49 rate per night, but not by any means for which I feel that I have cheated the system. I guess I will find for sure when my confirmation arrives, whether or not I qualified for the low rate. All I know is that I told that I lived in Minnesota,probably 5 times.

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[a1a]

I think that all the people who booked rooms with discounted rates and codes would be very disturbed to find out that, according to a previous poster's criteria, they were not financially stable, not altogether very intelligent, and didn't have very good jobs.

If a prospective guest is not calling Disney to inquire about the best rates available at a given time, that is one less room that may be rented. That is one less family that doesn't buy park passes; that doesn't eat over and over and over again at inflated prices. That is one family that doesn't spend funds on souvenirs and t-shirts and boat rentals and tours and film and drinks at the pool bar. Do you really think Disney wants us to stop calling and asking about room rates? If we stop calling: bad, very bad. Bad for business. If the phones stop ringing, they stop renting rooms, and stop selling vacations. Let's not worry about the multi-BILLION dollar Disney company with it's movies, and themeparks all over the world, and it's toy companies, and it's Rosie O'Donnell show tapings, and it's National Car Rental Tiger Woods golf tournament, and it's nationally televised holiday parades, and it's ABC network. I'm sure they'll survive a few really diligent vacation planners.

It is ridiculous to think that WDW is providing discounts as charity work. They are in business to make money. Every marketing tool they use is designed to bring in business. Every dollar they spend on advertising and promotions is intended to get someone to spend a WHOLE lot more money in the resorts and parks than the ads cost.

What a nice sentiment to think that all these discounts are designed to help underpriviledged families take a vacation, as someone said earlier on this thread, but that is not it. That is not it. That is not it. Underpriviledged families are probably not spending $ .50 per day on USA Today to get the codes so they can take a vacation. That is not to say that they aren't. But, that would not be the appropriate vehicle to reach a particular segment of the market.

Remember that WDW execs (think of Eisner's salary, stock options, 401k, retirement, and bonuses) are in it to make money for shareholders. Everything they do is designed to make money. Every marketing tool they use is for the sole purpose of enticing people to visit their resorts and parks so that they spend money there. The money that is spent in the parks and resorts has to hugely outweigh the amount, dollar for dollar, that is spent on marketing. Every advertising and promotions dollar that is spent is done so to bring in business of people that will spend money. It's a business. Yes it's "the happiest place on Earth", but it's a business, plain and simple.

Could you imagine going to the grocery store and being told that the price was less for you because you are Hispanic or African American? What an insult. Could you imagine how you would feel to be the Caucasin, Asian, Indian, Canadian behind them in line who didn't get the same price? Could you imagine being told that you were expected to pay more because you lived on Oak street instead of Maple Street? What if there were those that said "well those Hispanics can't afford the groceries, so they should get the discounts". That would be just so insulting to the Hispanics. Maybe an earlier poster thinks we should pay rates for rooms based on our incomes or tax filings.

People sometimes make a lot of assumptions. I am not one of those people who calls CRO and makes a stink. I am always appreciative of the work they do to help people plan their vacations. That is a great job to do. I don't feel that I "gotta get me mine" at all costs, as someone implied earlier, but I do feel that if there are discounts being offered, that they should be offered to everyone, whether they are shared here on the boards or not.

Agreed, the Webmaster can do whatever he wants.

These boards by design, are intended for the sharing of information. They are posting boards. If the information needs to be censored first, then perhaps the posts should go to the moderators who can post them. By the way, I think the moderators have a fun job here and do good work to encourage the continued use of these boards for the sharing of information by disney friendly folks. If you notice, there are ads here on this site. These are intended to get your business. If you continue to visit this site, guess what, you may be more likely to do business with the advertisers on this site and with WDW resort and parks. This site is a business, too.

[This message was edited by a1a on 03-17-01 at 05:00 AM.]

[idratherbeinwdw]

I agree that it is not fair and frustrating to offer discounts to select populations. It is not that I feel like I have to "get mine" as anothe poster mentioned, but it does really annoy me to feel I have paid more just because I did not know the "secret word". I totally blame WDW for this fiasco, they seem very untogether when it comes to promotions and reservations. When you call, some cm's offer discounts that others don't. There does not seem to be any set policy and it leaves people frustrated and upset.

I also totally agree with the posters who say it is not right to discriminate either for or against certain groups. I disagree that we are taking up the rooms of the "less fortunate". Going to WDW is mighty expensive, and I don't think a $49/night deal will make much difference to truly poor people. The park passes and food, not to mention plane tickets would still put WDW out of the reach of those families (sadly).

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Poly (Yay!) 12/01

[m]

I called yesterday and got the $49.00 rate w/out the code.
I thought I would at least try and I asked the rate for the AS for Sept.23rd -Oct.3rd and I was quoted $77.00 per night. I them mentioned I knew there was a $49.00 rate and I said I knew there was a code but I admitted I read on the internet but I did not know what it was. She said "Just a second" and asked me if the code was "###" and I joked and said "If it works it is". Mind you I had already told her I did not know the code. She said she had no idea where the code came from, checked my dates and off I went.
Now that is my opinion it is bordering on fraud when I ask the rate and 2 seconds later I save almost $30.00 a night w/out any more information from me.
The bad news is the resort and park are probably going to be packed because of this discount so I'll save money but not time.
I think some of the people posting are being riduclous refusing a lower rate. Is someone more deserving than you? Definitely not me. I am taking my $49.00/night

[Chesdan]

I think they should offer a discount on the Delux Resorts. That $49.00 rate is great can't they please have a discount for the spoiled parents of Teenagers who still want to go on vacation with their parents but need to be on the monorail and have easy acess to the parks and resorts.

[BethR]

Hi a1a!

I believe that the banner ads that you see on this site help to defray the thousands of dollars per month (no exaggeration) that is costs to run these boards.

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[idratherbeinwdw]

There is a code for a discount at the Polynesian which will make it $189/night, good until october. Of course they aren't going to charge anything near $49/night at any of the deluxe resorts. Best I have ever seen at a deluxe is WL and AKL for $159/night. Anyone ever gotten better than that recently?

If you are interested in the code for the poly email me and I will happily send it to you.
:D

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AS Music 9/01
Poly (Yay!) 12/01

[beachbunny]

I agree with a1a and TravelSheryl. This is a business. Disney is a big boy and can police its promotions by itself.

What we have to remember is that this board is a business too. Yes, the DIS may have other advertisers who help defray the costs of operating this board, but look at who its biggest advertiser is: Dreams Unlimited Travel.

Dreams Unlimited Travel can't beat a price of $49. I know. I asked DU to check prices for the same nights and received a quote of $99 per night.
Unless I'm an annual passholder, FL resident or AAA member, I can't expect to get any discount off rack rates. That's why I look to my fellow DIS members for help. Thank you to everyone who posted their codes.

As a point of clarification, in order to post a code, does it have to be available to all without any target audience in mind; or can it be targeted at a specific audience but be available to all - like the code in the Hispanic newspapers. If we are limited to the first instance, codes will NEVER be put on this board. As all codes have now been deleted, I guess we have our answer.

[a1a]

Most of us are in agreement on this thread, and probably throughout the boards.

The advertisers that purchase ad space on this web site do so not to help defray costs, which I am certain are high, to operate this website. They advertise as a means of increasing their own business. If it were the case that advertisers pay to advertise on websites to help defray costs, there certainly would be many much more worthy of this kind gesture, the American Cancer Society, for example. Don't kid yourself that they are just "helping out". Everything, everything in business is to make money. People rarely spend money in business without the intent of making more money.

These codes are probably "illegal", because travel agencies may not be able to use them. What a threat to business. Why allow something to be continually posted that undermines your livelihood? The answer is simple: don't.

[CathyCanada]

Hi beachbunny,
Just to explain to you, the request to not post codes was a DIS guideline long before the inception of Dreams Unlimited Travel and is not related in ANY way. That decision was made because of the integrity of our webmaster, Pete Werner, who was not about to let people "cheat" Disney by taking advantage of codes they were not entitled to. AND although others beg to differ over the legality of this, they WERE instances of people who had booked postcard codes with the codes from information they got on the internet (not as recipients of the postcards) and got to the resort only to find that they were not legitimately entitled to the discount and once they could not produce the card, were made to pay full price. We did not want that happening to any of our readers.

The addition of the guideline to not post this latest series of codes was added because some people seemed to enjoy attacking one another on the Resorts board over these codes and who was, and wasn't, eligible. While these boards are here to share information, we only want to share confirmed, legitimate information. Judging by the large number of confused posters who couldn't get the discount from one agent but called numerous times and did, the dates confusion on some codes and the state eligibility of others, getting confirmed correct information was not happening. We have a strong sense of community over these 35 discussion boards and this was not fostering that sense of community when people were fighting over the legality of these codes.

We ARE trying to verify some of the codes at this time and when we do, I will be happy to post them on the Resort board for all to see. Pete posted one and I had verified informtion on the Passholder Moderate Website April/May offer after another poster said he got an AP rate after Apr 11. To make an accusation that the codes can't be posted because of the board affiliation with Dreams as an advertiser is incorrect and unfair.

If you wish to discuss this further with me, please do so by e-mail, I don't often check this board and would not necessarily see a reply or question you have regarding my comments.
Thanks in advance and I hope that you understand the policy and reasoning for it now.
Cathy

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[The Pluto People]

The postcard codes were not an issue here. Are those people who used a code PRINTED IN A NEWSPAPER to get a great discount at the All Stars now being called CHEATERS? Wow - that is some strong language! The discounted rates were offered to all who called and asked CRO about them...no cheating was involved. And what is taking so long to "VERIFY" those codes anyway? Can a travel agency use those codes? And, if a travel agency can't use the codes,how can they verify them? This isn't my battle but I am disgusted at the attempt to vilify those people who are trying to get their kids to WDW for a price they can afford - and then want to share their good fortune with others. I thought this was the Budget Board...

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ISN'T IT UP TO CRO TO FIND OUT IF WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A PARTICULAR PROMOTION!!!!! (Yes, I know that is hollaring in e-language. Believe me, I was.)

We are getting a lot of explanation from moderators and webmasters about the reasons for deleting money saving information.

I have read more than once that the reason promotion codes will be deleted is that they do not apply to everyone. Yes, but they do apply to some!!!!!!!

It appears that Disney will continue to use these marketing methods. There will be more and more of these discount promotions identified by codes for CRO. I have never once had CRO ask me in what State I live, therefore, there may have been some of these statewide promotions to which I was entitled, but in which I was not included.

By deleting promotional information from these messages, you may be disallowing people who are entitled to inclusion in the promotion. I have no problem with reading that a particular promotion is not intended for me, but if you delete all codes, you may be doing quite a diservices to many people who fall into the categories that are targeted with the promotion.

That is not fair! You just impacted the finances of a family's vacation. Oh well, no souvenirs for Junior, because his Daddy couldn't get the extra twenty dollars off the room rate. It is not that using a code that is intended for a particular segment of the market that is unfair, it is that you just made it impossible for those that could have used it to use it. You just caused families to pay more for a vacation that they could have paid less for. Maybe they couldn't eve go, because they read about the promotion on this board, and didn't write it down. Nobody at CRO mentioned it to them. Well, maybe next year they'll be able to go to see Mickey.

There seems to be a great deal of concern for poor Disney being cheated. To say that a guest cheated Disney, would mean that the guest was in a position of power in order to do the cheating. It is impossible for any one of us or all of together to impact this multibillion dollar conglomerate. Please don't feel sorry for Disney. Remember how many vacation planning videos they send out each year. There is a different video made targeting each category of guest: families with small children, singles, couples, older guests. They've got a lot of bucks, a lot of bucks to spend, and I certainly would not be too concerned about us outsmarting the Disney executives.

If CRO's would ask the questions that apply to the promotions, they would be able to tell us if we were eligible. That sounds very simple, doesn't it????????????????????????

[WebmasterAlex]

Pete and Cathy tried very nicely to post an explanation that some people don't want to accept. The policy comes straight from the owner of the board Pete Werner. The policy existed long before Dreams Unlimited travel and before we had many advertisers. If you can't accept the explanations given please feel free to Email Pete as he is the only one who can change it. In the meantime the policy will be enforced and we are not going to have a debate here. This thread is locked.

Alex
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