Disney not happy with Mission Space

[stemikger]

I read a story about Disney suing (ETC) the company that built the centerfuge for Mission Space. There is a lot of acqusations from both companies, but it seems that ETC has several issues on the safety of this ride and that Disney did not let them do all of their own safety tests.

I find there might be a ring of truth to this because I read another article that states people 55 and older have complained of chest pains and nausea after riding Mission Space. Some have gone to the hospital.

Hope the ride is safe, because I want to try it in August.

[Buzz2001]

After reading all the articles and reviews, I thought the ride was going to be terribly stressful on the body and after riding it, I don't know what all the fuss is about.

[DancingBear]

Any update from this September 2003 article?

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2003/09/08/story4.html

This lawsuit was initiated by ETC, and prior to the opening of the ride.

[seashoreCM]

While not nauseous to the point of vomiting, I felt quite giddy after riding Mission Space. At least I am glad I tried it, but probably never again.

There will always be a few people who cannot take the ride as it stands, and also a few people who can take a much more aggressive operation of the ride.

As far as I know the ride can be perked up or toned down to any degree. I wish they had a "chicken session" every now and then, those who want to participate step aside and when about 40 have gone into the "chicken line" they are all loaded at once (I think there are 10 ride capsules each holding 4 people) and the ride is run a little slower for that ride cycle.

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7/31, Did Tower of Terror for the first time (after having chickened out for the past 4 or 5 visits/years). No problems.

[TeenaS]

I'm 55 and had no trouble. Following the directions is a big factor. I kept my head all the way pushed back against the head rest, had my eyes open as far as they would go (I was afraid to even blink) and the biggest thing is not to look left or right - just stare straight ahead. When the ride was over I felt "off balance" for about 1-2 minutes but was then absolutely fine. If they hadn't told me it was spinning, I would have never known it. I hate spinning rides but was fine with this. I also know quite a few over 55 and over people who have gone on the ride and a few felt a tiny bit "off" but only for a few moments and then were fine. But again, they followed the directions.

I did hear one mother, I'd say about 28-30, bad mouthing the ride - saying how sick she was after it and in the next sentence she said "and when I looked over at my husband during the ride, he looked sick too". Obviously she didn't listen and did the big no-no: looked to the side and not straight ahead.

[Keebles]

After reading the boards I was expecting the best ride ever (I love thrill rides and never get sick on them). I was more than a little disappointed because it lasted like five seconds! The preshow took up more time than the actual ride! I kept saying to my BIL who rode with me "that was it?". He did get a little sick, but it was from clausterphobia instead of the ride. At no time did I not feel safe, however, and it did feel like the ride was well made.

Just one Disney-girl's opinion!

[Chuck S]

It really depends upon the general health of the individual, like for all "thrill" rides. My 80yo Mom won't do ToT or RnR, but rides Mission Space several times during each of our trips.

[Dopey & Grumpy]

Both my DH and I are 55+ and we rode Mission Space and couldn't figure out what all the hoop-a-la was all about. Neither one of us was dizzy or felt sick or disorientated. We did what was suggested on all the signs and thoroughly enjoyed the ride.

We would have gone on more than once but the lines were very long and there were no more FP available so we continued on our way.

It's like anything else at WDW or DL - everything isn't for everybody. There's so much to chose from that if you can't do one ride, there are others to take it's place.

[xAmarisx]

I dont know if its just me or something But after I rode MS I felt happy and hyper. Hyper enough to get on the ride 4 more times back to back...I have a strong stomach LOL the wait time was less then 5 mins which was great.

[whjoyjr]

The whole chest pains and so on. People work themselves up and blame the ride. I rode Mission: Space last month. It was good, but Rock-n-Roll Rollercoaster pulled more G's IMHO.

[TheWho]

I rode it and didn't get sick, but I also followed the directions.
BUT, who wants to go on a ride that requires all these directions or you'll get sick. For the money they paid for this ride, I was expecting something better than a "glorified simulator." Not sure this was money well spent.:(

[Galahad]

Originally posted by Chuck S
It really depends upon the general health of the individual, like for all "thrill" rides. My 80yo Mom won't do ToT or RnR, but rides Mission Space several times during each of our trips.

I hate roller coasters but Love Mission Space. It really depends on the individual.

[sgtdisney]

I was one of those people that, after reading the DIS and other forums, was a little bit nervous about riding Mission:Space for the first time. I don't like roller coasters, Space Mountain is almost too wild for me to consider and I HATE drops.

I went on MS last month and I loved it! I went to look at my son next to me for a second and you can tell when you aren't looking straight ahead you can feel the circular motion. So I put my head back again and looked straight ahead per the instructions and I really liked it. Now, my father who was with (and likes rides like ToT and Space Mountain etc.) really didn't like Mission:Space. He felt very dizzy and complained of a headache for hours after it. He told me later that he turned away to watch my son enjoy the ride as well. (Gotta follow those instructions! ;) ) His age may or may not have been a factor as well as he is just over 70.

I for one hope that they don't tame it down. The feeling at 'liftoff' was so fun.

[petula]

For all of you who turned to look at the person sitting next to you, how did you manage that? I went on the ride for the first time last week and tried to turn to look at my mom before it began. There was a shoulder harness and a separating wall sort of thing that made it impossible for me to see her, unless (and i didn't try this, because it seemed like way too much trouble) I really stretched myself over and around both of these.

I rode several times and never felt sick, but did notice sensations that were unlike anything any other ride causes, which made me wonder if a lot of people are thinking "I'm sick" when really just experiencing sensations that they're unused to.

[ChrisFL]

Originally posted by petula
For all of you who turned to look at the person sitting next to you, how did you manage that? I went on the ride for the first time last week and tried to turn to look at my mom before it began. There was a shoulder harness and a separating wall sort of thing that made it impossible for me to see her, unless (and i didn't try this, because it seemed like way too much trouble) I really stretched myself over and around both of these.

I rode several times and never felt sick, but did notice sensations that were unlike anything any other ride causes, which made me wonder if a lot of people are thinking "I'm sick" when really just experiencing sensations that they're unused to.

Well, the first time I rode, there was a group of about 8 people who were afraid to ride once they heard that it spins. The CM's kept saying don't look to the side, look straight ahead and you won't feel like you're spinning.

Apparently if you look to the side enough you could get sick?

Anyway, I'm a coaster freak and loved launched coasters like RNRC, but even the "launch" on M:S was almost too much for me.

[starboard]

I was a bit concerned about the 'SPINNING' on MS also... they kept telling you to not ride It if you were prone to sickness. So it kinda planted that fear. Once the ride began, I LOVED IT... it really has allot of nice G's and I never felt like it was SPINNING. I did follow the directions as well.

[gmalijnowski]

I'm 60 and loved every minute of Mission Space during the 6 times I rode it. Had no problems even though rides that go in circles (such as the Teacups or Dumbo) make me sick. All you need to do is follow the simple directions they have posted all over the place and watch the screen - NOT everything else around you and do not close your eyes. And even more impressive was that I was a walking time bomb - one month later I had a major heart attack that I was lucky to survive. I now have 4 stents and will be going back to the park in 2 weeks and I WILL be right back on Mission Space.

In my estimation this was the first time following one of those crazy warning signs really helped - like most other people I usually ignore them - maybe they should put up another sign that proclaims these signs are for real.

WDW over 365 days.
Greg

[RealDisneyFan]

Just throwing in my experience at Mission Space. I loved it. And my biggest fear is that they might dumb down the ride some way. They went back and changed the XtraTerrestrial ride not long after its debut. And that was sad. It was a scare the pants off you kind of attraction. But I guess that was too intense for someone. Because when they tinkered with it, they wound up making the experience less believable. making it harder to suspend disbelief.

I would really hate for them to take the same approach to Mission Space. The ride did have its intense moments. But that's part of its charm. And like the Aerosmith rollercoaster, not every ride is for every person.

As for me, I love Mission Space. And I'm headed back to Disney just to ride it again.

So guys.... keep it spinning!!

[King Triton]

I think building Mission Space and Test Track was a big mistake. They are big disappointments. That is getting away from the Disney magic. Disney should have built the Mt. Everest ride or Journey to the Center of the Earth ride instead.

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[laceemouse]

I have extreme motion sickness so I would never try MS, however, as rides, coasters, etc. become faster, wilder, and more exteme more and more people will be bothered by them regardless of age. I personally wish Disney would focus on more rides and attractions that all ages can enjoy together, but I understand their desire to attract the thrill seekers and compete with US, SF, BG, and the like. Just please don't TAKE AWAY things like Spaceship Earth which my family loves!

[Uncleromulus]

I wish that too!!
But we are in the distinct minority, and Disney is simply following the crowd when they remove attractions like Horizons and World of Motion, and add Test Track and Mission Space.
It's what Disney believes the "people" want.

[RealDisneyFan]

A couple of posts back I praised Mission Space. And I meant it. It's a stellar attraction, worthy of the name Disney.

Having said that, I also agree with sentiments in recent posts. One of the things which distinguished Walt Disney World and EPCOT in particular was attractions which are/were engaging for the mind as much as the senses.

I have seen some tendancies to move away from that. And it worries me. I don't want Disney to be Six Flags. I hold Disney to a higher standard.

So yes, I like a good thrill ride. But the reason I go to disney is to have my mind stimulated.

[JDH]

rates behind ToT, Test Track, Rock n' Roller and Space mountain on my list in that order. After all the hype it really isn't all that impressive. Wouldn't waste time worrying about. Just ride it and have fun!

[TaraBelle1069]

I took a motion sickness tablet before I rode. The line was very slow (I think they stopped at least once to clean up after someone being sick as the floor just outside the ride vehicle was wet ...with a caution sign...when we finally did get in). After 20 minutes of recorded warnings, I was contemplating leaving. It's almost like they talk you out of the ride!

Then it went so quick and I got off feeling a little wobbly but I think the motion sickness medication prevented me from feeling the effects. I don't do simulator rides well so was prepared for this but I think it might have removed too much of the sensation. That combined with the short ride length made it one of those "did the ride, won't do it again" rides.

[JOCELYNM]

WOW, I rode Mission Space on July 19th during my wonderful Disneymoon and I was disappointed...I hate to even say it out loud, but I really was! i don't get any type of motion sickness at all and maybe it's not fair to say, but I felt absolutely nothing! I did follow the instructions by looking forward and keeping my head back, but when it was over I said too, "Thats' it!!!"

Oh well, I love new rides and would definitely ride it again!

[WDWDennis]

My wife and I rode it last year when it had just opened. Well, it wasnt officially opened yet, just a soft opening. Anyway, It made me feel sick to my stomach! I can usually ride anything without a problem. Then I went back later that year and rode it again. This time, the G forces were much less than the first time. A CM said that they slowed it down a bit. I don't have any problems now, but I could see where it bothers people. It is still pretty strong. Probably the same as R&RC, just sustained a little longer

[MitchK]

Like it was said a few posts up, Disney is loosing its magic. I think the best rides in Disney have to be Splash Mountain, Jungle Cruise, Dinosaur...ect rides that have a lot of animatroincs, and great scenery. Rides that you could tell took alot of time to develope. I hope Mt. Everest over at AK will help restore some much needed magic.;)

[Mystic7070]

both my dh and I are 59/60 (damn) and thoroughly enjoyed Mission Space and can only echo past posts, "What is the fuss?" We left the ride for the first time thinking we missed something so went back again, ......same thing What is the fuss?

[King Triton]

It's ashame that Disney is losing some of its magic. I was a huge fan of Horizons and World of Motion. Epcot has lost its charm without those great rides. Now Disney is thinking about removing Spaceship Earth. :mad: Michael Eisner just doesn't get it. Building Test Track and Mission Space to chase after teenagers is a big mistake. Walt wanted every ride to be fun for the entire family. Michael Eisner lost the vision. The damage is done but I hope someone soon will replace Eisner who will recapture the magic.

Solution: Pull out Test Track and Mission Space. Build Journey to the Center of the Earth and a Horizons II ride instead. Trust me on this...it will make Epcot a super hit in the long run.

All of us TRUE Disney fans need to speak up!

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[Coach Rick]

I know I won't ride Mission Space because of neck problems from an auto accident 7 years ago, I do look very forward to my kids enjoying MS. As far as the magic being lost because of a couple of thrill rides being built, I am not sure I want to jump on that bus just yet. Some of the rides are just plain boring, especially for kids. EPCOT still has much to teach, and if adding a couple of thrill rides makes my kids want to go to EPCOT then I think it's a good thing. They are bound to get some educational value from the World Showcase, Living Seas, Spaceship Earth, etc...

At least it has a threme, and a plot. As a kid I wondered what it would be like to experience a liftoff, now my kids can experience a small part of it, and imagine even more of what it would be like. I am not sure loosing the magic is what is taking place. It's more like a sign of the times IMO. All the nice slow rides in the world would do no good if attendance drops off, and the park can no longer support itself. They must keep up with the times.

I figure while the rest of the family enjoys MS my Dad and I will take in the Jaminators for some great entertainment.

[MrsJ Henry]

It was on the radio the other day that the best publicity a ride at a theme park can get is "people getting sick.... people going to the hospital... etc...... "This seems to get swarms of people to want to ride these rides.
They were talking about Mission Space and how WDW is loving the publicity they are getting due to this ride.
My husband and I will be going in November and due the problems I have on some rides I WILL NOT be trying this one. But I will say that when we tell people that we are going they are all asking about Mission Space. Interesting..... it makes sense that Disney would be happy about all of this.

[Peter Pirate]

King Triton, sir, your opinion is certainly valid (as your opinon) but just because you don't see the magic in these new attractions doesn't mean it isn't there for others. Test Track and M:S are both GREAT additions to Epcot and far outshine the aging pieces of crap they replaced. How many more times could we pick our lame *** destination in Horizons...Geez, it was laughable, it was so dated and hokey (bad hokey...not good hokey like Jungle Cruise)...But again...This is just my opinion...

M:S is not a disappointment to Disney. It is bringing in lots and lots of guests and this will be revealed in the year end attendance figures. Further, it must be remembered that M:S space affects everyone in different ways and oddly enough in different ways than some folks normally feel. I, for example, am very prone to motion sickness, yet aside from initial anxiety, I felt very little, while I've talked to a couple of people who LOVE big, fast coasters and were quite queasy after M:S...It just depends and this (I think) is why some people are lucky enough to get a big thrill from M:S while others, for no reason other than physiology perhaps, just don't get the rush and still others get terribly nauseated.

Anyway, Epcot will be great when Soarin' opens - if they would just add a new Country and bring back Tapestry of Nations!!!

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[DC7800]

Originally posted by Peter Pirate
...just because you don't see the magic in these new attractions doesn't mean it isn't there for others. Test Track and M:S are both GREAT additions to Epcot and far outshine the aging pieces of crap they replaced. How many more times could we pick our lame *** destination in Horizons...Geez, it was laughable, it was so dated and hokey (bad hokey...not good hokey like Jungle Cruise)...But again...This is just my opinion...

Peter Pirate, this argument works both ways. Just because you can't see the magic and sense of wonder inherent in Horizons doesn't mean its not there. To consider the finale lame, hokey, or laughable is nothing more than your opinion, as you noted. Perhaps unfortunately for us, nether your nor my opinion dictates reality. Actually, I happen to think Test Track an "aging piece of crap" which should never been built in Epcot. But I try not to describe TT quite so harshly, remembering that it's probably someone's favorite attraction I'm making fun of (probably someone who never got to experience World of Motion...). :D

The difference, however, is that I can make quite a good case why Test Track was a mistake and a major disapointment, from the very beginning, using more objective facts which have little to do with my opinion. A lot of people apparently see "magic" in crimes against fiberglass architecture (Pop Century) or Dinorama, both valid opinions, but that in no way means Disney should have built either.

Mission Space is only a great addition to Epcot if you happen to like that sort of thing (extreme thrill rides). If you instead favor the immersive, inspired attractions that Epcot was once noted for (Horizons, etc.) then Mission Space is just a waste of space. Actually, the demise of Horizons and its brethren, with the introduction of thrill rides in their place, appears to have alienated something of Epcot's core audience.

Mission Space might be more of a great addition to Epcot if it was actually an addition - but it isn't. It's instead of an existing attraction. That was the key mistake. Indeed, Horizons and Mission Space would have complemented each other nicely - no matter how you or I personally feel about either of them.

[Peter Pirate]

The comment was intended to be 'tongue in cheek" as I fully realize these type of statements are opinion only...Thus my statement "again...This is just my opinion." Sorry that this wasn't clear.

But, Horizon's was antiquated and nothing short of a total revamp could have kept it relevent, IMO. Plus it must always be remembered that the building was crumbling so it indeed did have to go one way or another.

As for the "if you like that sort of thing" analogy, it still cuts both ways. When Epcot opened they had huge problems overcoming the "education park" stigma. Kids DID NOT want to go there and if I'm not mistaken their attendance numbers prove this. It's great to teach AND wow when possible but these two outdated rides and no more chance of reaching modern kids than the possibilityof them laching onto Barry Manilow as their music idols.

Test Track is the most popular attraction at WDW based on attraction wait times (and still manages to take a look at something 'real', if not educational). M:S is a thrill ride and this is what Epcot needed. This is what people want. It too is relevent although it certainly could have been more educational (something I wish would have happened).
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[DaveO]

I never understand these comments about the new attractions not being for the whole family. Just beacuse the under 3 set can not ride ..... My son who is 4 can not wait to get on Test Track in October. That is all he talks about every night when he goes to bed. WoM would have never sparked that imagination and fire in my son. Isn't that is what new attractions are supposed to do?Most of the thrill rides being created can be shared by the whole family if they are over 4.

Dave O.

[Planogirl]

I loved Horizons! However, I've never disputed that the show needed to be updated. It was the Idea of Horizons that affected me. The idea that the future was out there with all sorts of possibilities. That idea has been bulldozed and trashed now even though I can often hear the Horizons music in the entrance pavilion. That only serves to make me angry unfortunately.

As for the building crumbling, it's a disgrace if a building was actually in such a state so quickly. Where was the expertise when the Horizons building was built? But then I have my doubts that it was really in such a bad way. The biggest problem it had was no sponsor IMO.

[LUVMICKEY]

I don't do any of the thrill rides myself but my husband always does them all with Mission Space being his favorite. He is 56 years old and rode it 7 times on our most recent trip in July. Never once did he have a problem. However, he always follows the instructions.

Michele

[GrimGhost]

Wow! I could not have said it better!
I loved Horizons! However, I've never disputed that the show needed to be updated. It was the Idea of Horizons that affected me. The idea that the future was out there with all sorts of possibilities. That idea has been bulldozed and trashed now even though I can often hear the Horizons music in the entrance pavilion. That only serves to make me angry unfortunately.

As for the building crumbling, it's a disgrace if a building was actually in such a state so quickly. Where was the expertise when the Horizons building was built? But then I have my doubts that it was really in such a bad way. The biggest problem it had was no sponsor IMO

I don't recall the Horizons building being in disrepair at all..

[wishuponastarforever]

DH (55) and I (53) rode MS in Februrary. I was concerned about all the hype so I anticipated getting sick. This interferred with my enjoyment. When we got off, DH said he thought the ride was too short. I on the other hand thought it was quite long.

We went back for seconds - this time I was relaxed and had to agree with DH - the ride was too short.

We went on for thirds, fourths and can't wait to return in October.
We loved MS. It's just not long enough.:teeth:

[King Triton]

Horizons summed up the Epcot experience (World of Motion too). It had the Disney magic. What sets Disney apart from the other concrete and beam roller coaster rides like you see at Six Flags is the MAGIC. True Disney fans understand this. Horizons tapped into your imagination and wonderment...it made you look into the future. Horizons gave you the sights, sounds, and smells of the future. It was a work of art. It gave Epcot it's charm and wonderment. The first time I rode Horizons I was in "awe." I must have ridden the ride 10 times that day. The music sound track stays in your head. When you go home, you start dreaming about the imagines you saw in Horizons.

Test Track and Mission Space doesn't do that with me. That's more of a "let's go to Six Flags" type of ride. It's a no imagination ride. It doesn't stir up your imagination like Horizons did. That is my opinion. Remember, Walt wanted every member of the family to ride the ride together. The very young and old will not be able to ride Mission Space and Test Track. With Horizons and World of Motion, you can ride it all day with your kids. As for the teenagers who don't appreciate the Disney magic, let them go ride the concrete and beam roller coasters at Six Flags.

I am afraid Michael Eisner is losing the vision Walt had. Let's go for the whole family and the magic....not just aim for teenagers. I like rides like Journey Into The Center Of The Earth ride that combines dark and thrill ride experience. I do think the Mt. Everest ride will turn out to be a winner. I still wish Disney would build a Horizons II ride. True Disney fans understand what I'm talking about. It's all about the magic and tapping into your imagination.

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[timC]

I'm with Peter Pirate... Disney will take any publicity, particularly the type that brings trill seekers back to Epcot. Disney is in business to make money. The old rides have got some nostalgic value, but they do little to attract new guests.

M:S and TT are the only rides at Epcot my DS10 and DS13 are interested in. Without those rides, we'd probably replace our Epcot day with Universal Studios. IMO they are doing the right thing. A family-oriented park needs rides that attract all of the family members. Can't wait for Soc.

[dckiss]

King Tritan.....There is no doubt that you are a true Disney fan! I completly and totally respect your opinion. Magic is the most important ingredient to Walt Disney World. However I do think you are over looking something here though. If you read through the post you will see people of all ages, including your age group enjoying Mission Space. With that said, Thrill Rides are not for everybody, but neither are attractions such as The Land (which is one of my favorites). The bottom line is that Disney needed to up date there parks with some more thrill rides if they wanted to compete with other parks such as universal. I don't think you are going to see Disney turn into another Six Flags ever! But they do need some thrill rides to move into the future. Those that don't look to the future are doomed to fade away with the past.

One final point, I do happen to be a thrill ride person. As a matter of fact I avoided Disney World for years because I had heard they didn't have many thrill rides. I would still be avoiding Disney World if I hadn't won a trip from the company I used to work for. Before Disney I never liked parades or shows & fireworks didn't impress me. I am not a shopper & I sure as heck didn't want to learn anything. When, I got down to Disney World My company put me up at the boardwalk and epcot was the first park I visited I got completely and totally sucked into the magic. I loved everything about epcot and the rest of the parks. What I learned was that I like all the things I USED to think I didn't like if they are well done. I have been going back every 12-18 months ever since. With that said If Disney would have had more thrill rides I would have been down there long ago. I know there are a lot of people like I used to be out there. I talk to them everyday. They don't go down there because they have heard that Disney Doesn't have many thrill rides. Like it or not Thrill rides are the future of Disney at this time. And as long as they don't take there eyes off of the rest of what makes Disney Magical I don't see a problem. A new attraction doesn't have to be for everybody. There are tons and tons of things that the entire familiy can do. Just my 2 cents. I do consider my self to be a true Disney Fan as I sure have a lot of Disney stuff sitting around my house hehe.

Thanks,

Dan

[gailb]

I, too, like the educational nature of Epcot, but absolutely love Test Track. Any of my immediate family members would agree. We are not much of a thrill-seeking group, and Test Track has just enough (but not too much) action for us. I would hate to think of Disney removing such a fun attraction. Unfortunately I do not have the stomach for a ride like Mission Space ( or the tea cups!), but am glad that they have those type of rides for visitors who enjoy them.:D

[King Triton]

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that Disney needs more thrill rides too. I also know that people have different tastes. I wish Disney would have kept Horizons and World of Motion and built Test Track and Mission Space too. Why remove the classic rides? I think combining thrill/dark ride is the way to go. It's important to maintain the magic and imagination. I don't want to see too many Dumbo clone rides popping up because it's cheaper to build. We must maintain the high standard of quality Walt had in mind when he built Disneyland.

I love Disney....when you enter through the gates, you're in a different world of enchantment magic.

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[Peter Pirate]

As for Horizons, I have it on very good authority and it was discussed on these and other boards quite extensively at the time that the Horizons builing, did indeed, have serious maintenance issues...So severe that building did in fact need a complete overhaul (Disney choose to replace it).

I agree that it's a shame that a building as relatively new as Horizons failed (somebody blew it) but the decision not to recreate the same ride seems the right decision to me.
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[ryley26]

I loved ms but would not ride it over and over. We just got back and there was never a line for ms. test track on the other hand was at least a 40 min wait at all times. so judge for your self I think people are afraid of the hype.

[adriannabannana]

I went with three other people, and two of us loved it, one thought it was o.k., and my Mom-who is afraid of heights-enjoyed it but vowed to never ride it again. She is 55, and the only physical complaint she had was that she felt a starboard list when she got off the ride. (I did too, and I noticed that I kept walking a bit to the side as I went down the hall)

Other than that, I think it's worth the wait, and an excellent addition to the Disney thrill ride line-up.

edited to add:

I didn't see the posts on pg 3, but I do agree that Disney Co. can't lose sight of the original vision for Epcot (and the rest of the world) by replacing the all of the original rides with "six-flags screamers". WDW would become another Bush Gardens, or Universal, and lose it's competitive edge for family theme parks, if it commits to this approach. They have a huge amount of acreage, so they can add thrill rides and update the original visionary rides at the same time.
I was 14 when I saw Horizons, and I did miss it when I went back at 29 and it was no longer there. Not all the rides merit special 'hands-off' status, but the ones that exemplify the original WED vision do.

JMHO.

[SheDaisy0088]

Went on it 2 times in a row with my DH and DS7. They loved it. I however was feeling a little green around the gills.

[foodrocksluver]

Originally posted by King Triton
It's ashame that Disney is losing some of its magic. I was a huge fan of Horizons and World of Motion. Epcot has lost its charm without those great rides. Now Disney is thinking about removing Spaceship Earth. :mad: Michael Eisner just doesn't get it. Building Test Track and Mission Space to chase after teenagers is a big mistake. Walt wanted every ride to be fun for the entire family. Michael Eisner lost the vision. The damage is done but I hope someone soon will replace Eisner who will recapture the magic.

Solution: Pull out Test Track and Mission Space. Build Journey to the Center of the Earth and a Horizons II ride instead. Trust me on this...it will make Epcot a super hit in the long run.

All of us TRUE Disney fans need to speak up!



Okay Im speaking up!!! Yes I was a little girl when Horizons and The World of Motion was there but every time I go onto Test Track I say to my mom, "Just want you to know I secretly HATE this ride since it took away The World of Motion". And to me Disney magic is there when you see little kids get off the ride with a huge smile on their faces saying, "Mommy lets do it again!!". So its there for like everything in MK and AK, MGM has it but its more the teens going, "Sweet! Lets get another Fastpass!!". EPCOT, eventhough its my favorite park, has lost some magic in the Future World West area. I mean they closed Wonders of Life and say that its only open seasonally. Now shouldnt that mean that its open in August!! Hello you should have seen it! Open Wonders of Life! But back to the point, I hated Mission Space and my dad got sick for 2 days and actually got sick. So there you go, Bring back Horizons and The World of Motion!

[taswira]

I have to chime in, because of the comment in one post about Disney "chasing teenagers." Although I love EVERYTHING at the parks, from MK's Carousel to RNRC and TOT at MGM, and I am a big fan of Epcot's World Showcase, Mission:Space is my favorite ride at WDW. I go on it at least weekly and have even done a couple of ride "marathons" on it. My only complaint is that it seems much less intense than back in its pre-opening test ride days.

I will be 53 in December. I don't think the features of theme park rides have anything to do with age. Although some rides have height requirements, age is not a factor at WDW. It is a matter of personal preference, the Guest's state of health, and attitude. Fortunately, there are a variety of rides and attractions for the wide variety of Guests. I think Mission:Space is a good thing, popular or not. Those who are doubtful of its suitability for them should probably just skip it.

[Coach Rick]

Originally posted by taswira
I will be 53 in December. I don't think the features of theme park rides have anything to do with age. Although some rides have height requirements, age is not a factor at WDW. It is a matter of personal preference, the Guest's state of health, and attitude. Fortunately, there are a variety of rides and attractions for the wide variety of Guests. I think Mission:Space is a good thing, popular or not. Those who are doubtful of its suitability for them should probably just skip it.

I would have to agree. There is nothing wrong with this ride, although I didn't ride it this past week when I was there. My DW, DS, and two DD's did ride it, and loved it. As you said taswira, there is something for everyone. I prefer going to see all the shows now at 47. Some say I am getting old, but I rather believe my taste has changed. I still love SM, BTMRR, and SM in the MK. Just in EPCOT, I prefer different entertainment. My guess is that is why there are so many choices. :D

[SundancePass]

Mission Space is one ride I cannot ride again. Too sick and didn't follow directions. However, my fun now is to sit on the benches close and see how many are green when they come out. More guests come out laughing and listing than green and sick, it seems to me.

I miss Horizons and World of Motion. My kids loved to ride them over and over and over. But then everything changes and so does Epcot.

It's still our favorite park!

[Olaf]

I'm one of those folks who had real problems with this ride. I followed directions, but I do get motion sick in airplanes sometimes. I think I also have a touch of claustrophobia, when that top piece came down, I was sweating bullets. The weird thing about this ride is that I felt quesy all evening after riding it. Normally it goes away quickly, but not this time. DH & DS loved it--good thing there's a nice waiting room. :)

[KathyPem]

Am I the only one who got ALL they way to the doors where you get into the pods and THEN chickened out??? I like thrill rides (loved TOT and RNR) but I get car sick at times and all those warnings had me so worked up and anxious that walking into the room where they play that video clip I was getting queasy already. LOL. I figured I would rather chicken out (which I have NEVER done on a ride ) than get sick and be horribly embarrassed. DH's cousins had gone on it the day before and told us all about it too, that didn't help.

On another note, I hold Disney parks higher than other theme parks. I would hate to see them try to coverly compete by changing existing parks to be more 'thrilling'. If they want to do that, build another park that is more on the 'thrill ride' level.

I know a lot of kids are going on these thrill rides at very young ages but what will they have to look forward to at 15 if they did it all at 5, know what i Mean?? I guess I am just old fashioned and sentimental.

[iceskatejen]

I rode Space Mountain at DL the first time when I was 6, I still looked foward to it at 16, and now I'm sooo looking foward to it reopening next year. If kids are riding M:S at 5, then for them it will be part of their Disney experience and if they're sentimental, they'll still be looking foward to it. Anyway, I loved Mission: Space. I've always wanted to know what space flight felt like, and I just thought the whole experience was very cool.

[Deafmedic]

My wife is 36. She has been a Flight Nurse on helicopters for 14 years. She has never gotten sick riding the "bird" as she calls it. She says it made her nauseated and gave her a headache to ride Mission Space.


:worship: princess: ::MinnieMo ::MinnieMo :cutie: :cutie:

[GQQFY]

Mission:Space is the greatest thing to happen to Epcot in YEARS. WAIT! No, decades!

Just look at the increases in attendance!

Besides...it's a centrifuge...not all astronaut candidates like it either. This only serves to vailidate the authenticity of Disney's version of astronaut training!

Hooray for Epcot and WDI for creating something "Uniquely Disney!"

[jarestel]

Time will tell with MS, I suppose. If, for instance, in 3 years time, TT still has 40 minutes to an hour and a half queues but MS, (after everyone has had a chance to try it out) is a walk on, this will say all that needs to be said about the future of the ride. If MS has long lines waiting to ride, it will survive. If not, it goes the way of Horizons, after the depreciation has been realized by the Walt Disney Company. That remains to be seen, but personally, I don't see MS as a serious long haul option at Epcot. Any ride that makes people think they require medications and need to follow a strict ride protocol, ( ie, don't look around, keep your eyes glued to the screen in front of you, don't eat anything before going on the ride, etc... ) in order to ride successfully, is probably doomed. When you make a ride a little more than most FAMILIES, not individuals, are willing to put up with at WDW , ( anyone remember Alien Encounter ) you run the risk of "ALIEN-ating" a large segment of the ride population. Maybe at some point in the future, we'll see the "Stitch-ification" of MS. But I could be wrong. As I said, time will tell.

[stemikger]

I was there this past August and I was dying to try Mission Space. I talked about it all year. Well the day before we went to EPCOT I went on Rock and Roller Coaster and I didn't like it at all. I don't know why but my body couldn't take it. The takeoff was too much for me. I was talking about how hard this was on me the next night while eating dinner at the Crown and Rose in London (EPCOT) and a nice couple overheard me and said if you didn't like the take off on Rock and Roller Coaster don't go on Mission Space. This scared me and I never did go on the ride. I do have high blood pressure so maybe I better listen to my body. I do love TOT and I think Dinosour was awesome. That is about my new threshold since I hit 40.

It seems that Disney is trying to fill that niche, but I hope they don't go overboard and still give us high blood pressure people something to go on.

[eileenfk]

Originally posted by seashoreCM
While not nauseous to the point of vomiting, I felt quite giddy after riding Mission Space. At least I am glad I tried it, but probably never again.

There will always be a few people who cannot take the ride as it stands, and also a few people who can take a much more aggressive operation of the ride.

As far as I know the ride can be perked up or toned down to any degree. I wish they had a "chicken session" every now and then, those who want to participate step aside and when about 40 have gone into the "chicken line" they are all loaded at once (I think there are 10 ride capsules each holding 4 people) and the ride is run a little slower for that ride cycle.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

7/31, Did Tower of Terror for the first time (after having chickened out for the past 4 or 5 visits/years). No problems.

I have always thought they should have a "slow" version of many of the faster rides.
This probably would not work for those that really free-fall.

After several times of chickening out, I finally got the courage to go down splash mountain. After the drop, I wasn't even sure that I had done the main drop, because it didn't seem like such a big drop. I was sort of wondering if the "big" drop was still coming up.
Now my goal is to try at least one ride, that I have chickened out on in the past, each trip.
Tower of Terror is on my list.
As far as Mission Space goes, I highly doubt I will ever try it.

princess: Eileen

[DC7800]

Originally posted by eileenfk
I have always thought they should have a "slow" version of many of the faster rides.
This probably would not work for those that really free-fall.

They should indeed have "slow" (or "mild") versions of faster attractions in Walt Disney World, especially if Disney insists (as the pattern since the early 1990's) on making almost all of its major new "E" ticket attractions thrill rides. Really, everything with a height limit needs an alternate version, to avoid excluding anyone when it isn't necessary.

A lot of kids are really disappointed when they discover they can't ride Space Mountain (or whatever) until they're older, a lot of Grandparents get tired of sitting on a bench waiting for the rest of the family to have fun (hmm...didn't Walt himself have something to say about that? Something about the idea for Disneyland...), and a lot of chickens (that would be me) get extremly tired of every major new addition to a park being yet another attraction they can't ride.

None of that is necessary. While there is nothing wrong with a few attractions in a park which appeal primarily to the thrill element, it need not be done to the exclusion of everyone else. I don't know, but I suspect Tower of Terror just might be the easiest attraction to modify in this manner. All you have to do is slow the rate of descent (in the time it takes for the current version to do its multiple drops, you could probably complete one slower, steady trip down the shaft) so the elevator descends but doesn't "drop". My suspicion is that might require little more than a programming change (anyone know?), and that's something performed on ToT several times already. How about a Tower of Terror, version 4.5, for us chickens?

Just thinking out loud, almost all WDW "thrill" attractions could (fairly easily) be modified to permit basically anyone to ride (no height requirements), while still retaining the faster "thrill" version for anyone who prefers it. For a long time, the only two attractions I couldn't figure out how to do this with were Splash Mountain and RnR. You might be able to use some type of gantlet tracks in RnR, but the only thing I could come up with for Splash would be to disembark the passengers at the top of the big drop (chicken exit) and send the logs down empty (reboard at the bottom). Fortunately for all of us, Disney's imagineers could do so much better, if given free reign to do so.

[WED63]

I love the ride- it is intense but a lot of fun. My 8 yr old liked it as was.

I felt it was safe- I hope I am right. EPCOT needs it to be all right

[PirateGirl]

Now I'm really confused! 80year-olds who think its no big deal & people who love RRC bu get sick on this!

I can't open my eyes on RRC & fall flat on my face at the exit, but love things like Test track, Star Wars etc so should I risk it?

I'll send my kids on first as scouts then they can tell me if its ok. Trouble is they'll say it is even if it isn't just so they can laugh at me falling over when I get off!! Can't win.

[Jaybrad]

I was a bit skiddish about riding Mission Space as I am subject to motion sickness. I did fine, was a little woozie for a couple of minutes after exiting.

[jarestel]

Originally posted by PirateGirl
Now I'm really confused! 80year-olds who think its no big deal & people who love RRC bu get sick on this!

I can't open my eyes on RRC & fall flat on my face at the exit, but love things like Test track, Star Wars etc so should I risk it?

Most people ride MS with no problems, but there are those who suffer for their decision. If everyone was a carbon copy of everyone else, this question might be easier to answer. Unfortunately, everyone is different. If it's worth it to you for the sake of a 4-minute ride to gamble on feeling "weird" or "downright sick" for the rest of the day, then go for it. If the downside outweighs the benefit then skip it. Good luck!

[PirateGirl]

Thanks for the advice Jarestel! I'll watch the exit line & take a view based on what I see. Sounds too good to miss tho!
:confused: pirate:

[Beachangel]

I've ridden MS several times with no ill effects, but I did follow the instrutions each time.

[Pats Dragon]

I didn't expect to get sick and took the directions seriously and followed them to the letter. I got sooooo sick it took me an hour to recover. I have never been so sick in my life. Its a shame because the ride is incredible. I never get motion sick either.:(

[PKS44]

I do get motion sice..I rode it 3 times and loved it! A little woozy, sure...but just for a bit afterwards...follow the instructions and remember to BREATHE! you should be fine...

Paul

[TiggerFreak]

First time, I followed directions and had no ill effects. The next day I decided to experiment, did not always watch and looked from side to side. This did cause me very minor and short lived (5 minutes) equilibrium disturbance. Our DS was uncomfortable (no nausea) the remainder of the day after MS. He rode the next day and was not affected for as long of a period.

Must be the Astronaut Gene ::yes::

[searlproudbottom]

I am the type of person who can't ride in the backseat of a car, can't read while riding in a car, can't ride in a boat, can't ride the teacups. But I can ride Mission Space (-;
Searl

[mattmommy]

Listen the rules and you'll be fine. I think you also need to not have a totally empty stomach, but definitely not full. I had one of those little bags of carrots at the Land, walked to Mission Space and did fine. I was really thirsty afterwards. My DH (who can't even WATCH the teacups) made it through without chucking, but he wouldn't talk for 15 minutes afterwards. He was glad he did it, but he wouldn't do it again. I was worried about him, but there was no way I wasy looking left to look at him. It blows really cold air at you, but at liftoff I think I needed it.

[ShadowWind]

People are different and no, no ride is going to please everyone. The trick is to maintain balance so that you have something to offer the entire spectrum. This is what Disney has always done best. Not everybody can go on or enjoy Space Mountain, but they had Pirates of the Caribbean. Not everyone can partake in Big Thunder Mountain, but they had Country Bear Jamboree. In other words, there was enough to warrant the price of admission to Disney for every palette. By tearing out rides that are not thrill rides, to install ones that are, upsets this balance greatly and alienates that core audience. I'm afraid that the Disney company, in trying to chase Universal, has forgotten this balance and thus the problems.

Islands of Adventure, a park that in design is close to the MK, may be a marvel of theming and detail. However, if you have health issues, there is very little you can actually ride there. Certainly not enough to warrant the $50 admission price.

I will admit that Disney has been at least throwing the non-thrill seekers a bone with attractions like Mickey's Philharmagic, the Stunt Show at MGM, Stitch's Great Escape, but I would love to see more of the audio-animatronic wonders that Disney was always known for. Rides that completely immerse you in the mental and not the physical. Also the Pavilion idea was completely dismantled, which is a shame. Wonders of Life was a great example of that. You had Body Wars for the thrill seekers and Cranium Command for the non-thrill seekers.

Horizons and World of Motion were both incredible displays of the artistry of Imagineering. They were detailed, humoristic and imaginative. It really amazed me that it was said that Ward Kimball's whimsical look at Transportation was a bad show. As opposed to a high speed run through a GM test facility? What kind of show or story is that? Most of their newest thrill rides seem to be off the shelf rides with crazy stuff on the walls in the guise of theming. Hardly the Disney of days gone past.

I guess the point is that it wouldn't kill Disney to put in a E-Ticket type attraction like Haunted Mansion or Pirates of the Caribbean once in awhile to balance out the thrill rides and give us folk something to look forward to.

[stemikger]

I guess the point is that it wouldn't kill Disney to put in a E-Ticket type attraction like Haunted Mansion or Pirates of the Caribbean once in awhile to balance out the thrill rides and give us folk something to look forward to.

Well said Shadowind.

:wave:

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by ShadowWind
Most of their newest thrill rides seem to be off the shelf rides with crazy stuff on the walls in the guise of theming.That may be true as to Rock 'N Roller Coaster, but certainly Mission:Space, Test Track, Tower of Terror and Everest (and Soarin', if you consider that a thrill ride) don't fit that profile.

[JimB.]

I guess the point is that it wouldn't kill Disney to put in a E-Ticket type attraction like Haunted Mansion or Pirates of the Caribbean once in awhile to balance out the thrill rides and give us folk something to look forward to.

Agreed.

While I AM a fan of thrill rides, I am also a fan of what I refer to as SDMOR's (Slow Dark Make -out Rides) ;) ;) ;)

Disnay has not built one of these in a long time.

Too Bad. :p

[Belle0101]

On our recent trip I rode M:S alone to scout it our for the rest of the family. I never felt sick at all.

After I told them what it was like -

DH, who can't ride anything similiar to the Tea Cups, opted not to ride all.

DS9 had to use the chicken exit, he got scared.

DS4 rode it with it me 3 times and even after that kept asking to go again. He got the biggest thrill at then end each time when it said "Don't move a muscle". He told me the next time he rides it he's going to move his muscles. :D

We were talking about M:S at MK with another CM and he told my DH he should try it at the end of the day if he's worried about being sick. His thought being that if you should feel ill then you are headed out anyhow and haven't ruined your day.

[SundancePass]

I've ridden Mission Space once and will never ride it again. Being highly inner-ear sensitive, I did not pay attention to the hundreds (or so it seemed) posting and verbal warnings. Of course, I felt sick as soon as it "blasted off". Although the signs said "do not close your eyes" or something to that effect, it was the only thing that saved me from being violently ill during the ride. I have never been so happy that 4 mintues were over. And I was ill for the rest of the day as we rode it right before lunch.

[rocketriter]

My son, my daughter and I love MS and go on it several times each visit. But my wife went on it once and came out a quite unusual shade of chartreuse.

She sat down on a bench and then my daughter, who was 7 at the time, started asking, "Are you sick? Mommy, are you nauseous? Are you going to barf? Hey, guys, do you think Mommy's nauseous? Is she going to puke? Mommy, are you going to puke? Does Mommy want to barf?"

I think at that moment my wife understood why some fish eat their young.
:crazy:

[dpic]

Two shots of Bonine, and I did it first thing in the morning. I LOVED it. The feeling when you lift off is incredible. I got off and rode it again. The next time I felt it a little (just a little), but I can't wait to ride it again. I thought it was one of the better rides I've ever done.

[All Aboard]

More storytime... A couple of weeks ago, my daughter and I boarded with another man and his daughter. Prior to launch, my daughter (age 6) joked around about barfing, pulling out the barf bag, showing it to the other family, etc. Just goofing around. The man didn't seem particularly humored by it and had a worried look on his face.

Sure enough, the ride ends and he's toting a full bag off the attraction. Thank goodness Disney installed those bags.

[Brian430]

I can't project the long-term impact theride will have on attendance but I can give you a focus group of three male adults: 46, 42, 38.

We were incredibly impressed with the technology and the sensations it creates. None of us wanted to ride again.

At the end of the day it's not a ride you get off and want to jump right back on like Tower of Terror. The evening we were in the park the line for Test Track was longer than Mission Space which we walked right on.

When I think about going to any of the parks I usually think about a signature ride – TOT or Tough to Be a Bug or the Haunted Mansion. After all these years Illuminations is the true draw for Epcot in my mind. I think Test Track does not live up to the hype (especially since it to three years to build) and Mission Space is a one-time experience.

That side of Epcot continues to struggle if you ask me.

[Muushka]

Originally posted by rocketriter
My son, my daughter and I love MS and go on it several times each visit. But my wife went on it once and came out a quite unusual shade of chartreuse.

She sat down on a bench and then my daughter, who was 7 at the time, started asking, "Are you sick? Mommy, are you nauseous? Are you going to barf? Hey, guys, do you think Mommy's nauseous? Is she going to puke? Mommy, are you going to puke? Does Mommy want to barf?"

I think at that moment my wife understood why some fish eat their young.
:crazy:

Too funny :)