DVC Pools, Pool Hopping, Etc.

[bicker]

The biggest problem is Disney, itself, failing to enforce the rules except when they get flagrantly out of hand, i.e. SAB pool hopping.I cannot agree. The biggest problem is people acting selfishly, without integrity. Companies should be able to rely on the integrity of the general public to comply with terms and conditions of offerings. It is the widespread degredation of integrity that is, specifically, the "biggest" problem.

Also, enforcement costs money, and so enforcement (by a business) is only appropriate when the cost of abuse exceeds the cost of enforcement. Furthermore, remember that the cost of enforcement includes the cost of lost business from the transgressor, and the cost of lost business from non-transgressors due to the procedural impact of enforcement on those with integrity.

Having said that, our society's chronic problem with integrity is so severe that enforcement is often warranted, and as we can see, often applied by Disney to address what it considers severe abuse.

[goofy4tink]

As far as SAB being gated, it really isn't. You can just walk in at several points, especially from the public walkway that goes under the shipwreck slide. But, we were always asked for resort ID's when we went to get towels. We did see people in the pool without wristbands though. It would be nice if the lifeguards did 'sweep' a bit more often...it might discourage some folks from being there 'illegally'.
I'm staying at BCV in late Nov in a studio. My ds is driving over from Tampa to spend Sat/Sat night with me. I think I would be best served if I put his name on my reservation...just in case we want to swim.

[Danthesand]

We pool hop regularly and by the book (e.g., don't try to "crash" SAB if we're not staying at BCV) and have never been carded anywhere. Our favorite "hop" is the volcano pool at the Poly at night, after dinner at O'Hanas; the evening setting is neat, the pool and slide aren't crowded and the view of the MK and fireworks can't be beat. Slide is also more fun than the ship at SAB.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/resorts/photos/poly_pool.jpg

Frankly, IMHO SAB is highly overrated. We used it back in 2001 when it was still open for hopping and before it got horrifically overloaded by the guests at BCV. Even back then it was (a) crowded :crowded: , (b) noisy :headache: , (c) difficult to navigate around :confused: , (d) had proverbialy long lines for any form of refreshment :guilty: and (e) was not the best place if you had toddlers :eek: (yes, the "beach" end is cute, but the other 80% of pool is too deep for young swimmers), and all that's only gotten worse subsequent to the opening of BCV.

So, if everyone else is obsessed with getting into SAB, be my guest. Leaves all the more room for my family and I in the other deluxe resort pools!! :smooth:

[Sammie]

Truly very sad.

Folks should remember that these rules used to be much less stringent and less specific. They've become more restrictive because so many folks have voluntarily chosen to place their own selfish gain over respect for others. The more folks continue to do so, the more restrictive the rules shall become, and the more money we will all have to pay to in order to cover the added costs of policing such more restrictive rules.

Or pool hopping will be eliminated completely. As with most things in life, the many get punished for the abuses of the few.

You know it's one thing to totally disregard the policy, it is in my opinion pretty brazen to admit it. :rolleyes:

[Sammie]

I cannot agree. The biggest problem is people acting selfishly, without integrity. Companies should be able to rely on the integrity of the general public to comply with terms and conditions of offerings. It is the widespread degredation of integrity that is, specifically, the "biggest" problem.

Also, enforcement costs money, and so enforcement (by a business) is only appropriate when the cost of abuse exceeds the cost of enforcement. Furthermore, remember that the cost of enforcement includes the cost of lost business from the transgressor, and the cost of lost business from non-transgressors due to the procedural impact of enforcement on those with integrity.

Having said that, our society's chronic problem with integrity is so severe that enforcement is often warranted, and as we can see, often applied by Disney to address what it considers severe abuse.

Thank you for seeing what I try to explain everytime I get involved in these types of discusssion; be it pool hopping, mugs, room occupany etc. Anything that involves the guest policing themselves. Doing what is right, just because it is the correct thing to do, not because someone forced them to do it.

And before anyone jumps in and says who cares, why should I care about what someone else does. You might want to read what caused the Fall of the Roman Empire. One of the main reasons being Decline in Morals and Values.

[Dean]

Or pool hopping will be eliminated completely. As with most things in life, the many get punished for the abuses of the few.
Frankly, I'm surprised it's lasted this long. If I were DVC, i would have eliminated it and the associated aggravation 2-3 years ago. I'm sure there would be the temporary bank of complaint calls just like when they changed the points back in 96?, but then it'd be business as usual.

[Danthesand]

Frankly, I'm surprised it's lasted this long. If I were DVC, i would have eliminated it and the associated aggravation 2-3 years ago. I'm sure there would be the temporary bank of complaint calls just like when they changed the points back in 96?, but then it'd be business as usual.

The obsession with (what I again feel is highly overrated) SAB may get a lot of print here, but I don't think it's causing DVC any aggravation whatsoever. CMs at SAB are simply managing compliance with standing, published policy; guests who get caught trying to ignore it aren't in any position to complain to DVC....

....so they come here and whine!

[DrTomorrow]

For the record, I'm a rule follower, I support policing the pools and I would never hop at a non-allowed pool (heck, I don't even use the pool at the DVC resort I'm staying at, just to be safe! :rotfl2: )

That being said, in response to this comment:

I cannot agree. The biggest problem is people acting selfishly, without integrity. Companies should be able to rely on the integrity of the general public to comply with terms and conditions of offerings. [...]
Well, give me a call when the general public can rely on the integrity of companies (Enron, Tyco, WorldCom, etc. and the dozens of companies dumping their pension responsibility on the PBGC). While IN NO WAY DEFENDING THIS BEHAVIOR, it is easy to understand the frustration behind it, as companies sacrifice loyal, hardworking employees on the altar of the bottom line. Goodwill is a two-way street....

[DISLOVE]

It just shows me how far down WDW has fallen in the past years. They opened up the place to everyone when they built those value resorts.


WOW... I can't imagine that you would be not embarrassed to say THINK that, never mind put it in print for all to see. Talk about being :snooty:

It might be nice to keep in mind that it's not just people who stay at the value resorts that ignore rules.

[DISLOVE]

***" If other parasites see people getting thrown out, maybe the embarrasment would make them think twice.


These are people we are talking about right?

Wow.

:scratchin

[DISLOVE]

.... . Who cares if the headlines are bad..... those headlines will keep the other parasites out.


I swear that if it were possible I would have you thrown off the DISBOARDS for referring to people like that. The disdain you have for people makes me almost certain that you have one too many sheets :sad2: in your closet. You can't have that black of a heart and be a normal person... It's a POOL for crying out loud!!!

:sad2:

[Beca]

Nope....one of the MAIN reasons we own at BCV....LOVE that pool!! (But, that's not the only reason....I just think BC is BEAUTIFUL!!)

My goal is to try and stay at BCV....and spend as much time there as my family will let me!

:wave:

Beca

[Dean]

The obsession with (what I again feel is highly overrated) SAB may get a lot of print here, but I don't think it's causing DVC any aggravation whatsoever. CMs at SAB are simply managing compliance with standing, published policy; guests who get caught trying to ignore it aren't in any position to complain to DVC....

....so they come here and whine!I disagree. They have to plan when the pool is likely to be at capacity. The resorts have to deal with daily planning to decide about capacity. They have to deal with the DVC members who follow the rules and call to see if pool hopping is available. They have to police the areas, this is likely the easiest as they should police them for other crashers anyway. Both MS and the resorts have to deal with the complaints when pool hopping is made not available. I even know of people who called ahead and were told PH was OK only to arrive at the pool and be denied access or asked to leave. DVC gets little or no benefit from PH, it's not an effective sales pitch in it's current state. My guess is the ONLY reason it's still in place is because it was promised to many over the years.

[Rainman]

We have recently pruchased a resale at Beach Club Villas (BVC). We are so excited!

If we stay at another resort I know there are pool hopping to other resorts. Am I correct that you can not use the pool ( Stormalong Bay ) at BCV if not staying at BCV?? If your home resort is BCV can you use Stormalong Bay if you are staying at another resort??

[skelooch]

You are correct, you cannot pool hop to SAB, even if BCV is your home resort.

[Doug Wolfe]

I own at BCV, but can not pool hop to SAB when I am staying at Old Key West. Yet when I am at BCV, I can pool hop over to the Old Key West pool.

SAB is such a great pool, I totally understand the no pool hopping rule. It is really jam packed in the summer. :cool2:

[Beca]

Congrats on your contract!!

:cool1:

Beca

[tothebeach9]

If your home resort is BCV can you use Stormalong Bay if you are staying at another resort??
so if you are staying at another resort you cannot use Stormalong Bay regardless of your home resort. Stormalong Bay is only when staying at the beach club dvc.

[luvindisneyworld]

so if you are staying at another resort you cannot use Stormalong Bay regardless of your home resort. Stormalong Bay is only when staying at the beach club dvc.
That is correct.You can only use SAB if you are staying at BCV.That is one of the reasons BCV is so popular.

Misty

[pigby]

If your home resort was SSR and you stayed at a different DVC resort one trip, would you still be able to use the pool at your home resort. Or vice versa, if you wanted to use the pool at OKW and were staying at your home resort SSR. Just checking if the 'usual' rules apply to DVC.

[CarolMN]

As long as you ae staying at one of the WDW DVC resorts on points, you may pool hop. The usual rules/exceptions apply. No pool hopping allowed (ever) to the BC/YC/BCV pools or the pool at the AKL. Back out periods apply and if the pools are crowded, you may be asked to leave (rarely occurs).

Best wishes -

[Dean]

If your home resort was SSR and you stayed at a different DVC resort one trip, would you still be able to use the pool at your home resort. Or vice versa, if you wanted to use the pool at OKW and were staying at your home resort SSR. Just checking if the 'usual' rules apply to DVC.The rules are the same for everyone. No PH during specified times and none to BCV and AKL. And you can't PH to your home resort as a way around this. For example, BCV owners can't PH there if staying somewhere else. And no one can PH during black out times, even to their home resort.

[lisafromgeorgia]

What are the blackout periods? We might be there May 24 - 31. How do you find out?

[DVC-Don]

They are listed in the official DVC web site. Usually around the major holidays.

[Happy Birthday Cat]

What are the blackout periods? We might be there May 24 - 31. How do you find out?

Here's the list:

Disney Vacation Club Members may not "pool hop" during the following dates*:

* November 21 - 27, 2005
* December 17, 2005 - January 2, 2006
* February 19 - 25, 2006
* April 8 - 16, 2006
* May 26 - 29, 2006
* July 1 - 8, 2006
* September 1 - 4, 2006
* November 20 - 26, 2006
* December 17, 2006 - January 2, 2007

*Other restricted dates may be added based on projected pool capacity.

HBC

[Caskbill]

And just as a reminder, pool hopping applies only when you are staying at a DVC resort on points.

If you are staying at a non-DVC resort such as a WDW hotel, or an off-site property, you may not pool hop simply because you are a DVC member.

Also, local Floridians may not just come over to a resort and use the pool, just because they are DVC-Members.

[Disney Doll]

We have pool-hopped once since owning in 1997. It was a few years ago when they were having some sort of special member thing at the BCV...maybe it was when it was new and they were opening it. We went to Epcot, then to the pool at the BWV while we waited for the thing at the BCV to start.

[robinb]

We pool hop a couple times a year. It can be a pain, but I enjoy hanging out at the different resort pools. Plus, my DD really loves the Scary CLown slide at BWV. I like the Polynesian pool.

[twash]

We always pool hop and spend one day at the Poly. We use to go to
Beach Club, before that closed to hopping. I haven't been to the other vacation club pools ( we always stay at OKW), but would be disappointed, if I didnt get my Polynesian fix. :teeth:

[susieh]

We always stay at OKW and in the past have hopped to POFQ, WL and SAB. We used to spend our last days at SAB before heading to the airport to catch the plane home. We can no longer do that now we can't pool hop there.

This year we have an ARD at Ohana and are thinking about pool hopping there that day to try it out. We're wondering if we could use it to replace SAB as the place to spend that final day (late morning/early afternoon) before we leave for home. Any comment?

[Windjammer]

Susieh

We do that all the time- the kids love it. We often take the monorail and swim at the Grand Floridian and/or Contemporary pools as well. We also go to the arcade at the Contemporary. My wife hits the gift shops while I am with the kids.

Steve

[westjones]

Susieh

We do that all the time- the kids love it. We often take the monorail and swim at the Grand Floridian and/or Contemporary pools as well. We also go to the arcade at the Contemporary. My wife hits the gift shops while I am with the kids.

Steve


My kids want to pool hop to the Contemporary. Do they have a place to change and shower?
Thanks,
DJ

[LakeAriel]

I am thinking that pool hopping to the Grand Floridian would be fun while the children are on the Pirate Cruise. As long as we will be hopping over there anyway! When they come back they can join us. Simplifys things!! :wizard:

[Danthesand]

My kids want to pool hop to the Contemporary. Do they have a place to change and shower?
Thanks,
DJ

Yes, there's an area with lockers, changing and showers. We did this last August. Nice, easy break from the MK afternoon madness.

[westjones]

Yes, there's an area with lockers, changing and showers. We did this last August. Nice, easy break from the MK afternoon madness.


Thanks! This will be a fun new activity for us!
DJ

[disworldnum1]

we have never pool hopped and more the likely never will.We enjoy the waterparks so much we have no need for pools period.

[Sherri]

Where would be the best pool to pool hop to with teenagers?
We are staying at the WLV

[pixiedust23]

Where would be the best pool to pool hop to with teenagers?
We are staying at the WLV


I would say BWI or Poly. I mean really it's SAB at BC/YC, but you can't pool hop there.

[Sherri]

Thanks Pixiedust23. I was looking at some pictures of Poly and it does look nice.

[Doctor P]

The pool at Port Orleans--French Quarter is also quite nice and worth pool hopping to, as well as the pool at Coronado Springs from what I have seen.

[pigby]

If you are renting points from and staying as a guest of a DVC member at a Home from Home resort, rather than owning, are you still allowed to pool hop?

[cobbler]

No you wouldn't be. Pool hopping is a perk for DVC members and not renters.

[pixiedust23]

No you wouldn't be. Pool hopping is a perk for DVC members and not renters.

I was told that as long as yo uwere using DVC points, and DVC was on your "key to the world" you had all the rights and priveldges of a DVC member, and would therefore have access to pool hopping. I would call up Disney and ask them to get the correct answer.

[Deb & Bill]

I was told that as long as yo uwere using DVC points, and DVC was on your "key to the world" you had all the rights and priveldges of a DVC member, and would therefore have access to pool hopping. I would call up Disney and ask them to get the correct answer.

I don't know who told you that, but that is technically incorrect. Only guests staying with the member are entitled to DVC perks and benefits and then only some of them. People paying members for the use of their points are not considered guests by the DVC regulations and are not entitled to these benefits. Some benefits require that you show a blue member card to get the perk or benefit. For example, the DVC discount on Annual Passes.

I wish Disney would remove the DVC Member tag from room IDs for non-members and leave it only for members and their immediate family members.

[LakeAriel]

I don't know who told you that, but that is technically incorrect. Only guests staying with the member are entitled to DVC perks and benefits and then only some of them. People paying members for the use of their points are not considered guests by the DVC regulations and are not entitled to these benefits. Some benefits require that you show a blue member card to get the perk or benefit. For example, the DVC discount on Annual Passes.

I wish Disney would remove the DVC Member tag from room IDs for non-members and leave it only for members and their immediate family members.

Agreed! There is a reason we pay dues every year and it is for membership and the perks that go with it. Putting that on the key is a mistake and incorrect.

[Dean]

Actually there are several levels of perks. Some are limited to the member if staying at DVC on points, some to the member themselves regardless, and some to guests even if the member is not there. Technically renters are not allowed the perks per the POS however where to draw the line between a renter and a guest is a bit arbitrary from DVC's standpoint. If they wanted to police it they'd have to change them so that it was only the member and no guests of any kind.

[Dean]

Agreed! There is a reason we pay dues every year and it is for membership and the perks that go with it. Putting that on the key is a mistake and incorrect.Actually most perks don't come out of dues or cost DVC any money whatsoever other than possibly some administration and printing costs associated. They are extended by the destination as a way of encouraging usage and I'd like to think, recognizing loyalty.

[LakeAriel]

Actually there are several levels of perks. Some are limited to the member if staying at DVC on points, some to the member themselves regardless, and some to guests even if the member is not there. Technically renters are not allowed the perks per the POS however where to draw the line between a renter and a guest is a bit arbitrary from DVC's standpoint. If they wanted to police it they'd have to change them so that it was only the member and no guests of any kind.

I don't think so. I think a guest is someone who joins the member on vacation. The member is available to show their blue card to allow all in his/her party to get the perks. A renter is a person you have never met and has no vested interest in DVC whatsoever. The person who would be hurt if DVC policed more would be those friends/relatives a MEMBER allows to use their points. It would be next to impossible to differentiate them from a stranger. A password or something may work, I'm not sure. I just don't like the feeling that renting is a better option then buying which I sometimes get. :sad2:

[Dean]

I don't think so. I think a guest is someone who joins the member on vacation. The member is available to show their blue card to allow all in his/her party to get the perks. A renter is a person you have never met and has no vested interest in DVC whatsoever. The person who would be hurt if DVC policed more would be those friends/relatives a MEMBER allows to use their points. It would be next to impossible to differentiate them from a stranger. A password or something may work, I'm not sure. I just don't like the feeling that renting is a better option then buying which I sometimes get. :sad2:Your view is not c/w the info found in the POS and Members Guidebook. Some of the perks are specified as member specific, others are not and the info says in the lead off:The member benefits described in this Guide are made available by DVD as a courtesy to DVC Members, and, in some cases, their
guests who have paid no compensation to the DVC Members ("Guests," or singularly a “Guest”). And there are several examples where guests would be able to get the perks without the member. Until the most recent website change, the member website specifically stated many of the perks were for guests as well, now it is more vague in that area. Reading through the info the definition of guest is someone who does not pay compensation. By such definition and as written in the information, ANYONE who paid the member anything, even if the member were along, would be classified as a renter.

Granted, most of these perks are not contractual and could change or cease tomorrow.

[keys2kingdom]

DH asked me this last night and I didn't have an answer. We own at BCV, but lets say that one year we decide to stay at BWV. Are we allowed to hop to SAB because we own at BCV or are we not allowed to hop over there because we would not be staying there? An interesting question.

[CDSTapisRouge]

No you can not. Yacht and Beach Club and the Animal Kingdom Lodge are not on the "hopping privledges" for DVC members, those pools are only for the guests that are currently staying at those hotels. Staying at BWV you would be able to hop to any other pool on property but even as a DVC member (and BCV owner) you will not be able to hop to Storm Along Bay or AK Lodge unless you are staying at that hotel...

[keys2kingdom]

Thanks Cirque Du Soleil, that's what I suspected but didn't want to answer him til I was sure. :thumbsup2

[Deb & Bill]

And it doesn't matter where you own points if you are not staying on points at a DVC resort. If you come down and pay cash at a non-DVC resort, you still can't pool hop. You're not staying on points.

[Daitcher]

And it doesn't matter where you own points if you are not staying on points at a DVC resort. If you come down and pay cash at a non-DVC resort, you still can't pool hop. You're not staying on points.



This may be true in theory but it is not how it works. Showing your blue DVC card will get you into any of the pools other than SAB and AKL. Besides who is there to check anyone at any pool? Pool hopping can be done anytime, by anyone. I've hopped and have never been questioned. What are they supposed to do, ask every person for proof they are staying at the resort? They don't have enough bodies for that and besides people would be annoyed at having to constantly present proof they are a resort guest. Also I'll throw this out there. If and when I sell my DVC I'll still have my blue card which will get me pool hopping as well as free parking at any of the theme parks. I driveto the parks now on occasion, and all I do is flash my DVC card. Not a bad perk to have after I sell out in say 10 -12 years.


DAVE

[senecabeach]

On occasion, I have needed my "blue" card...and resort id.

Disney will soon get wise to this..... just as they have now gone...biometrics in the theme parks..which I think stinks..cant share my tickets with family anymore. ;)

Enjoy it while you can!!

[keys2kingdom]

When they first put the fence around SAB (1997 I think) they had a lifeguard posted at each of the entrances to check room keys and they did it religiously, even if you went out to get something to eat at Hanna's you had to show your room key to get back in. Now they give out wristbands and you have to show the wristband if you want to get towels or use the slide. I have seen them using the entrance checkpoints during busy season.

[Daitcher]

When they first put the fence around SAB (1997 I think) they had a lifeguard posted at each of the entrances to check room keys and they did it religiously, even if you went out to get something to eat at Hanna's you had to show your room key to get back in. Now they give out wristbands and you have to show the wristband if you want to get towels or use the slide. I have seen them using the entrance checkpoints during busy season.


I was just there, no wristband, no checks, nothing. I don't mind rules I just wish they were enforced all the time. We'd all know what to expect that way.


DAVE

[rocketriter]

This may be true in theory but it is not how it works. Showing your blue DVC card will get you into any of the pools other than SAB and AKL. Besides who is there to check anyone at any pool?
At SAB I've been asked to show my DVC card and scan my resort card, after which my family was issued an identification "bracelet."

[sfibelko]

Disney will soon get wise to this..... just as they have now gone...biometrics in the theme parks..which I think stinks.
What is this about biometrics? I have never heard of this and am very interested in what it is and how it works.

[Dean]

What is this about biometrics? I have never heard of this and am very interested in what it is and how it works.They now have a device that measures your fingers and they use it to match the person with the ticket. It's very inaccurate and I'm surprised they've expanded it rather than looking at something else. With technology now days, a fingerprint scanner would likely be as easy, quick and more accurate.

[Disneyhappy]

They now have a device that measures your fingers and they use it to match the person with the ticket. It's very inaccurate and I'm surprised they've expanded it rather than looking at something else. With technology now days, a fingerprint scanner would likely be as easy, quick and more accurate.

I know this is a bit off topic but I didn't even think about this before. In January we used a couple of days on a 10 day MYW ticket. We are getting APs (with our wonderful DVC discount!) that we will use for our next two trips. Our DS is 13 and won't use his MYW ticket again until probably age 15 or 16. I expect him to go through a major growth spurt in that time period. Do you know how Disney handles that situation?

[LakeAriel]

I was just there, no wristband, no checks, nothing. I don't mind rules I just wish they were enforced all the time. We'd all know what to expect that way.


DAVE
I know! It is so mean of them to do random checks it makes it so damn hard to cheat the system! :thumbsup2

[CarolMN]

I know this is a bit off topic but I didn't even think about this before. In January we used a couple of days on a 10 day MYW ticket. We are getting APs (with our wonderful DVC discount!) that we will use for our next two trips. Our DS is 13 and won't use his MYW ticket again until probably age 15 or 16. I expect him to go through a major growth spurt in that time period. Do you know how Disney handles that situation?They will just reset the biometrics. Guest Services does it all the time when there is a problem. (Usually, after the person shows photo ID, but I don't think they make children/teens do that).

Best wishes -

[Dean]

I know this is a bit off topic but I didn't even think about this before. In January we used a couple of days on a 10 day MYW ticket. We are getting APs (with our wonderful DVC discount!) that we will use for our next two trips. Our DS is 13 and won't use his MYW ticket again until probably age 15 or 16. I expect him to go through a major growth spurt in that time period. Do you know how Disney handles that situation?Usually they just push a button and waive you on through. I don't know the official policy when there is a discrepancy. I doubt we'll see too many people turned away. I also don't know how long the system remembers the info, I'd doubt they keep in on file and accessible to the system for every ticket all the time.

[della]

Can you believe the only time we pool hopped was to the BW pool when we were staying at the BC? Our first trip after we bought into BC and the kids were whining about the sandy bottom and how much they missed BW pool-so off we went to BW! Thankfully, they have grown to love SAB.

The only other pool hopping experience was when OKW pool was being redone. OKW guests were invited to a Halloween pool party at SSR. We did go to that.

Last August we had planned on pool hopping if the heat in the parks got to be too much. But we never felt the need to follow through.

[Sherri]

Someone on another post is renting points from a DVC member. They called MS and asked if someone staying off property can use the pool as long as they are with them. MS said "Sure".
I bring this up only because I have seen posts that said you must be a guest to use the pool. It didn't say anything about being a guest of a guest.
Though my friend did tell me when she stayed off property she swam with her friend who was staying at the BC and it was no problem. I just wondered what the policy was should this situation come up for me in the future.

[JodyTG]

I sure HOPE it's not true. Then our DVC pools would get even MORE crowded than they already do at peak times.

[Chuck S]

I think the policy is flexible for a "guest of a resort guest" depending on how busy the pool is at the time. "Officially" it is not allowed, if the pool isn't busy at the time I don't see the harm, if a CM at the pool allows it.

[Sammie]

The best policy is to ask at the resort. It is easy for MS to say No problem, having no idea if the resort will be sold out at the time.

[Deb & Bill]

My question is why is a non-member calling MS anyway?

[Sherri]

They said they were renting points. It's over in the Disney Resort section under Boardwalk Pool question heading. And it seems to be getting pretty heated. I was looking for info. on Pop Century when I came upon that thread.

[Sammie]

Personally I think if someone is going to come back to Internet forums and quote MS or Disney for that matter, they need to ask that person do you mind if I share this info to thousands on the Internet.

I guarantee you the answers would be different. :thumbsup2

[DrTomorrow]

They now have a device that measures your fingers and they use it to match the person with the ticket. It's very inaccurate and I'm surprised they've expanded it rather than looking at something else. With technology now days, a fingerprint scanner would likely be as easy, quick and more accurate. I'd bet that they expanded it because that system was already in place. Besides, they're not really interested in accuracy - the whole thing is a preventative measure....

[Dean]

I'd bet that they expanded it because that system was already in place. Besides, they're not really interested in accuracy - the whole thing is a preventative measure....I'm sure you're right. My reason for questioning it was mainly that it's too slow. No matter how poor the system is, I'm sure it'll deter some people from trying to cheat the system, at least for a while.

[DisFlan]

I got roped into that thread. I probably should have just sat on my hands. I don't think the OP meant anything sinister, she just didn't understand. When she said that MS had told her "No problem!" about bringing non-guests to the pool - and that as a renter, "they'll be nice to me because they want me to join", I could just about feel the hackles rising through my keyboard. I knew we were in for a few flames.

The argument that "my guests won't take up much room at the pool" didn't help much, either. She didn't mention in this thread that her whole on-and-off-site group is comprised of 12 people.

DisFlan

[rinkwide]

My question is why is a non-member calling MS anyway?I don't know about you, but all of my renters and guests are allowed and encouraged to call MS with inquiries about any number of things, including: Magical Express, Dining Plan, ADRs, pool-hopping, etc.

[Doctor P]

I don't know about you, but all of my renters and guests are allowed and encouraged to call MS with inquiries about any number of things, including: Magical Express, Dining Plan, ADRs, pool-hopping, etc.

Well, I'm glad you allow this, and straightened this out for the rest of us. :rolleyes:

[DisFlan]

The first time we stayed at a DVC resort was on rented points in a 2-bd at OKW. The DVC member sent me the confirmation sheet after payment - the number for MS was clearly on it. Not knowing any better, I called to make sure everything was ready to go. I simply told them I had a ressie on rented points and gave them the confirmation number. They cheerfully asked me what they could do for me, and they asked for the complete list of names in our party and any preference of view.

I talked to MS twice before this trip, so it wasn't an isolated incident. I think it's a plus - it prevents miscommunications and other problems. It saves time and hassle for the owner (in our case, the owner was rarely available to deal with anything). Why shouldn't renters be able to ask questions and check on their reservations? It's not like they can do much else.

And the polite, helpful way we were treated by MS was one of the reasons we felt comfortable joining.

DisFlan

[Beca]

The first time we stayed at a DVC resort was on rented points in a 2-bd at OKW. The DVC member sent me the confirmation sheet after payment - the number for MS was clearly on it. Not knowing any better, I called to make sure everything was ready to go. I simply told them I had a ressie on rented points and gave them the confirmation number. They cheerfully asked me what they could do for me, and they asked for the complete list of names in our party and any preference of view.

I talked to MS twice before this trip, so it wasn't an isolated incident. I think it's a plus - it prevents miscommunications and other problems. It saves time and hassle for the owner (in our case, the owner was rarely available to deal with anything). Why shouldn't renters be able to ask questions and check on their reservations? It's not like they can do much else.

And the polite, helpful way we were treated by MS was one of the reasons we felt comfortable joining.

DisFlan

We're going the end of this month, and we invited my dd's best friend and family (from another state) to join us. I called yesterday to get them signed up for ME, and the CM said, "Why are YOU calling....you should've made them do it." She then went on to explain to me that ANYTIME someone else's name is on a reservation, they have full access to "extras" regarding that ressie, and that I should feel free to have them call MS directly for ME, dining plan, or anything else that they need. I was surprised....but, it is good to know.

:wave:

Beca

[DisFlan]

Thanks, Beca! It's good to know it's "official".


DisFlan

[Doctor P]

So, I guess they should change their name to "Reservation Services" or "Resort Services" rather than "Member Services". :rolleyes: I guess that I am glad that they are helpful, but...

[Scraper]

You know I think as long as member services is ok with talking to guest who stay at the Villa and use my ponts then it is ok with me. Less I have to do. Although I don't have points I am willing to share right now. We do pool hop sometimes because the kids like it. As long as we follow the rules then I see no harm. I have much better things to do with my time then sweat the small stuff.

[bobbiwoz]

I don't remember this thread from awhile back, but now Member Services doesn't do what it used to do, that is take calls from non Members!

Bobbi :thumbsup2

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

From what I have learned on Disboards I know that Disney Vacation Club members who stay on points are allowed to pool hop, expect during the holidays & no matter the time of the year, there are 2 swimming pools (forget which ones) they also can not hop to. Anyway I am just wondering since every Walt Disney World Resort Hotel pool states it's for the exclusive use for guests of that Resorts, how come Disney Vacation Club members who stay on points are allowed to pool hop? I am in no way trying to cause trouble & to :stir:. I just kind of think WDW sounds like hypocrites when they say regular guests can't pool hop, but DVC members can. Also my family & I have never pool hopped & don't plan to, because why would we when we have pool right at the Contemporary, so if you were planning on saying if we were planning to because of this post, well you don't. I only wrote this to find out why DVC members can pool hop. Anyway if some people can give some information, I would appreciate it.

[vonpluto]

1 - Because Disney makes the rules.

2 - It is simply a perk for DVC members.

3 - Did I mention because Disney makes the rules. :thumbsup2

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Well doesn't Disney realize they try to stop regular guests from pool hopping by saying the pools are reserved for guests of that Resort, however they don't care if DVC members do. Once again I am not condoning people who pool hop. I appreciate your answer, but can someone please be more specific about this? Also how come they don't list on the pool rules, only DVC members are allowed to pool hop if it's a rule?

[SueM in MN]

When Disney first started selling DVC points, it was a totally new concept and they didn't know whether people would be willing to buy into DVC at all.
Pool hopping was an incentive to encourage people to buy.
The 2 that can't be hopped to are AKL and Stormalong Bay. And, as you mentioned, there are blackout dates (not just holidays) when pool hopping is not allowed since they are expecting the resorts to be busy. Besides that, DVC members are supposed to check with the resort before hopping to see if it is too busy. They can also asked to leave if the pool becomes too busy with guests staying at that resort.
It also is a perk that could end at any time if WDW wants to.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

When Disney first started selling DVC points, it was a totally new concept and they didn't know whether people would be willing to buy into DVC at all.
Pool hopping was an incentive to encourage people to buy.
The 2 that can't be hopped to are AKL and Stormalong Bay. And, as you mentioned, there are blackout dates (not just holidays) when pool hopping is not allowed since they are expecting the resorts to be busy. Besides that, DVC members are supposed to check with the resort before hopping to see if it is too busy. They can also asked to leave if the pool becomes too busy with guests staying at that resort.
It also is a perk that could end at any time if WDW wants to. Thanks Sue, that was the answer I was looking for. At least now I know why DVC members can pool hop.

[Deb & Bill]

Actually, DVC members cannot pool hop to any YC/BC/BCV pool, not just SAB.

Disney also says that you must have a ticket to get into the park. But I'm sure there are some who get into the park without a ticket because they are brought in by Disney.

Disney says no pets in Disney resorts. But we all have heard that they allowed Oprah bring her pets with her.

Disney has rules about mugs not being reused after your length of stay during which you purchased the mug. But we all know people who don't follow that rule, don't we.

Disney makes the rules.

[SueM in MN]

Actually, DVC members cannot pool hop to any YC/BC/BCV pool, not just SAB.
Just curious.
Other than the quiet pool at BCV (which no one would want to pool hop to even if they could since it's the same as the quiet pools at any other resort) what other pool is at YC/BC? We've stayed at at YC and BCV, so that's why I only listed SAB.

[Olaf]

I suspect it has something to do with the fact that we send thousands of dollars up front to Disney and this is a simple way to encourage that behavior.

FYI we've never done it, too much bother.

[Caskbill]

Disney routinely grants special 'perks' to different groups of people.

Specials for Florida residents.
Specials for Annual Pass Holders.
Specials for DVC members.

Of Course, all kinds of specials for VIP's.

As mentioned, pool hopping is not allowed at another resort if it would interfere with guests at that resort having the capability to use the pool. This includes holidays and any time another resort is busy.

[Dean]

Just curious.
Other than the quiet pool at BCV (which no one would want to pool hop to even if they could since it's the same as the quiet pools at any other resort) what other pool is at YC/BC? We've stayed at at YC and BCV, so that's why I only listed SAB.It also includes the quiet pool at YC. Likely to keep it simple. If they allowed the quiet pools but not SAB it would be confusing for the staff and to the members as well.

[WebmasterDoc]

Just curious.
Other than the quiet pool at BCV (which no one would want to pool hop to even if they could since it's the same as the quiet pools at any other resort) what other pool is at YC/BC? We've stayed at at YC and BCV, so that's why I only listed SAB.

Both BC and YC have quiet pools in addition to SAB. You can see the BC quiet pool walking along the BW from EPcot towards SAB.

None of the BC/YC/BCV pools are open to pool hopping.

[starbox]

Why would WDW allow pool -hopping for DVC?

Disney resorts are set apart by pool features. One factor is that DVC properties are all Deluxe resorts with elaborate pools, so TPTB can be assured that all DVC members that pool-hop are not using the advantage to stay at a cheap resort and use a deluxe pool elsewhere.

Disney also has a goal of keeping DVC members on-site for their entire vacation. A regular resort guest that is paying big $$ for a once in lifetime vacation (or once every few years) vacation to stay onsite is not very likely to go off-property.

DVC members, on the other hand, typically take multiple vacations to WDW every single year. When guests spend that much time at WDW, it becomes much more attractive to go see other, non-Disney attractions, shopping, and dining for part of their stay.

IMHO, Disney offered the pool-hopping as a way to encourage guests to spend their non-park vacation days on property.

We've used pool-hopping. DVC members are required to check in at the desk of the resort you are visiting and show your blue membership card.

[Dean]

A history note: Early on Disney allowed PH for all guests but I'm not sure when that stopped, maybe someone else will know.

[Doctor P]

Disney routinely grants special 'perks' to different groups of people.

Specials for Florida residents.
Specials for Annual Pass Holders.
Specials for DVC members.

Of Course, all kinds of specials for VIP's.

As mentioned, pool hopping is not allowed at another resort if it would interfere with guests at that resort having the capability to use the pool. This includes holidays and any time another resort is busy.

You missed the special tickets and special packages for Canadians that have been offered on an on and off basis (truthfully--not just making some up to get under the skin of the OP). But I suspect the OP doesn't have a problem with those--just a guess. ;)

[CarolA]

From what I have learned on Disboards I know that Disney Vacation Club members who stay on points are allowed to pool hop, expect during the holidays & no matter the time of the year, there are 2 swimming pools (forget which ones) they also can not hop to. Anyway I am just wondering since every Walt Disney World Resort Hotel pool states it's for the exclusive use for guests of that Resorts, how come Disney Vacation Club members who stay on points are allowed to pool hop? I am in no way trying to cause trouble & to :stir:. I just kind of think WDW sounds like hypocrites when they say regular guests can't pool hop, but DVC members can. Also my family & I have never pool hopped & don't plan to, because why would we when we have pool right at the Contemporary, so if you were planning on saying if we were planning to because of this post, well you don't. I only wrote this to find out why DVC members can pool hop. Anyway if some people can give some information, I would appreciate it.


And this is EXACTLY why I expect that some day pool hopping will be taken away. They don't need it to sell DVC and it creates this type of WHINING from other guests. Just more hassle then it's worth for Disney.

[Dean]

You missed the special tickets and special packages for Canadians that have been offered on an on and off basis (truthfully--not just making some up to get under the skin of the OP). But I suspect the OP doesn't have a problem with those--just a guess. ;)And to certain targeted states, GA and TN come to mind over the years.

[CarolAnnC]

Sue, I know the BC has a quiet pool for its guests besides SAB, so that in addition to the quiet pool at BCV would be included. Personally, I am not into pool hopping, but it is available for those who enjoy it. :sunny:

[goofy4tink]

I don't think it's all that big of an issue. Most DVCers, or at least the ones I've talked to, can't be bothered packing up and heading to a different pool for the day. Most of us are pretty happy with the pool at our resort. Just too much hassle to take our stuff over to, say the Polynesian, for a dip.
It's pretty much a non-issue for us. But, again, WDW makes the rules, they offer those of us that go quite often some perks for being such good customers.

[Cruelladeville]

Why would WDW allow pool -hopping for DVC?

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Maybe the perk is to let DVC members look around for warmer pools. :rolleyes1

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Let's say for example & this is a totally hypothectical situation, some DVC guests who are staying on points at Old Key West, want to go for a swim at the Polynesian. They have a Cast Member call & are told the pool has plenty of chairs, so they won't be taking anyaway from Polynesian guests. In that time when they get ready & go from Old Key West, to the Polynesian all of the sudden the pool at the Polynesian fills up & there are no more chairs left. Could the people who stay at Old Key West complain that they came all that way & were also told before leaving that the pool was dead with no people around & demand they get swim there, as they would be allowed to do as DVC members staying on points. Or would the Polynesain not care, because they want to make sure their guests get the pool chairs as they should, despite the fuss the DVC members may put up. Also in the end would it have mattered because if they were at the pool before it got busy & started to get filled up, wouldn't they have been asked to leave to make room for the Polynesian guests?

[calypso*a*go-go]

I would think they could enter regardless, and would not be asked to leave later in the day if the pool gets busy. The CM's working in the pool area would be the only ones that knew they were DVC members and not guests of the resort. Is this really an issue, because it seems to me that there are probably a lot more people from other CRO resorts pool hopping than DVC members.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I would think they could enter regardless, and would not be asked to leave later in the day if the pool gets busy. The CM's working in the pool area would be the only ones that knew they were DVC members and not guests of the resort. Is this really an issue, because it seems to me that there are probably a lot more people from other CRO resorts pool hopping than DVC members. Then how do you explain this quote?
Besides that, DVC members are supposed to check with the resort before hopping to see if it is too busy. They can also asked to leave if the pool becomes too busy with guests staying at that resort. There were times when my family & I were at the pool at the Contemporary, when a Cast Member lifeguard would check our Resort ID cards to prove we were guests of the Contemporary. They would also sometimes check our Resort ID when we went to get towels. Anyway based on Sue's comment, I think DVC guests would be asked leave if the pool got filled up & there were no more chairs for guests of that particular resort. Yes I do know WDW has the rule where DVC guests can pool hop, but in my opinion I don't think the resort where the pool is full would want to disappoint their guests who choose to stay there & tell them, sorry there are some DVC guests who came from another resort & they are using the last remaining chairs, because they are allowed to pool hop.

[starbox]

Yes I do know WDW has the rule where DVC guests can pool hop, but in my opinion I don't think the resort where the pool is full would want to disappoint their guests who choose to stay there & tell them, sorry there are some DVC guests who came from another resort & they are using the last remaining chairs, because they are allowed to pool hop.

I don't think it is as big of an issue as you are making it out to be. The DVC resorts have the best, most elaborately themed pools on property. Honestly, very few, if any, families will be pool-hopping to the Contemporary, GF, or Polynesian pool - and why would people hop to a value-resort's pool? CSR and POR/FQ have good pools - so that is a maybe - but they are all really out of the way. Almost all pool-hopping that takes place will be within the DVC resorts. There just is not that much appeal to go elsewhere when the best pools are at home.

[Dean]

Let's say for example & this is a totally hypothectical situation, some DVC guests who are staying on points at Old Key West, want to go for a swim at the Polynesian. They have a Cast Member call & are told the pool has plenty of chairs, so they won't be taking anyaway from Polynesian guests. In that time when they get ready & go from Old Key West, to the Polynesian all of the sudden the pool at the Polynesian fills up & there are no more chairs left. Could the people who stay at Old Key West complain that they came all that way & were also told before leaving that the pool was dead with no people around & demand they get swim there, as they would be allowed to do as DVC members staying on points. Or would the Polynesain not care, because they want to make sure their guests get the pool chairs as they should, despite the fuss the DVC members may put up. Also in the end would it have mattered because if they were at the pool before it got busy & started to get filled up, wouldn't they have been asked to leave to make room for the Polynesian guests?Based on the rules you could be turned away even if you called and were told OK. You can also be asked to leave if the pool gets too full, based on the rules. The bigger problem is that when you call, the front desk doesn't have a clue. They may tell you that PH is not allowed, or they may tell you it's OK when it's not or that it's full when there is plenty of capacity.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

They may tell you that PH is not allowed, or they may tell you it's OK whn it's not or that it's full when there is plenty of capacity. Maybe all Walt Disney World Resort Hotel swimming pools should add to the list of rules, that only DVC guests are allowed to pool hop. I know it would look weird considering they say the pool is reserved for the guests staying at that particular resort, however as of right now this is a rule WDW has in place for DVC members. This way there would be no confusion, as it would be in writting at each resort.

[Deb & Bill]

Maybe all Walt Disney World Resort Hotel swimming pools should add to the list of rules, that only DVC guests are allowed to pool hop. I know it would look weird considering they say the pool is reserved for the guests staying at that particular resort, however as of right now this is a rule WDW has in place for DVC members. This way there would be no confusion, as it would be in writting at each resort.

Because it is not that simple. Poolhopping is only available at some pools. You cannot poolhop during holiday periods. And a DVC member must be staying on points at a DVC resort to pool hop. A DVC member who is staying elsewhere and not on points may not pool hop. A DVC member who lives locally cannot pool hop.

CRO reservations at DVC resorts do not include pool hopping. Non-members renting a reservation from a member are not entitled to pool hop.

[littlestar]

Grand Floridian, Poly, or especially the Contemporary pool (pretty basic plain pool - hopefully it gets improved if they ever add a DVC component to it) would be the last places I would ever want to pool hop.

The theming is so good at the DVC resort pools/slides that we don't ever pool hop. We've never pool hopped in 5 years of membership. I don't think there are that many members that hop. I think there is more of a problem with pool crashers than DVC pool hopping crowding up one particular resort.

I definitely don't think you'd have to worry about DVC members hopping much to the Contemporary - the moderates have better theming at their pools than the Contemporary does.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Because it is not that simple. Poolhopping is only available at some pools. You cannot poolhop during holiday periods. And a DVC member must be staying on points at a DVC resort to pool hop. A DVC member who is staying elsewhere and not on points may not pool hop. A DVC member who lives locally cannot pool hop.

CRO reservations at DVC resorts do not include pool hopping. Non-members renting a reservation from a member are not entitled to pool hop. I had no idea it was more complicated then that.

[Sammie]

Maybe all Walt Disney World Resort Hotel swimming pools should add to the list of rules, that only DVC guests are allowed to pool hop. I know it would look weird considering they say the pool is reserved for the guests staying at that particular resort, however as of right now this is a rule WDW has in place for DVC members. This way there would be no confusion, as it would be in writting at each resort.

There is no confusion, hence no reason to add that to the list of rules. Members know the restrictions, therefore that is enough.

Members are allowed to pool hop because the pools belong to Disney and that is what they decided to do. Just as they decided to allow resort guests to participate in extra major hours.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I definitely don't think you'd have to worry about DVC members hopping to the Contemporary - the moderates have better theming at their pools than the Contemporary does. I was never worried about DVC members wanting to pool hop to the Contemporary. Whenever my family & I go down to the pool, it's usually around 10:00 AM on days we don't go to the parks. So around then it's usually dead with just some other guests around, so it's never any problems getting 3 pool chairs for my family & I. Plus there would be a lot more guests at the parks during that time, so it's one reason why there are a lot of pool chairs.

[jade1]

I think its been explained very well by members on this thread. We hop occasionally but not to grab a bunch of chairs and sit there all day-more like a dip on the way to a park, or break from a park, or simply to check out another pool. I guess in a nutshell $25,000 down and $1500 a year til the day you die gets a few perks.

[JerJan]

Why would I want to go the the pool at the Contemporary when I can go to the one at let's say Saratoga Springs Resort?? If you posted a survey I would "guesstimate" that maybe 15% - 20% of DVC owners pool hop on a regular basis. If it bothers you so much, perhaps you might consider staying off-site and then it won't ever be a problem??;)

[Boston5602]

My family and I bought DVC this year . We have 200 points and we know we would like to add on anywhere between 50 and 100 points .

Right now we didn't want to spend the money for another 100 points , but in the meantime we come here to the DIS and find out about owning at more than 1 resort and why , and we have discussed spending a few hours pool hopping to other DVC pools at future trips so we can check out the whole resort and see where we may want to purchase in the next year or two.

This is why we are thinking of pool hopping.

[CarolA]

I have never pool hopped. I guess if we could do SAB then MAYBE it would be worth it. However, it just seems like a lot of work.

[starbox]

I have never pool hopped. I guess if we could do SAB then MAYBE it would be worth it. However, it just seems like a lot of work.

We swam at the Polynesian in the afternoon once, before ADRs to eat at O'hana. We had to pack a change of clothes. It was fun for the kids, but I was unimpressed by the pool/slide. Maybe it would be more impressive in the evening, after dark with all the torches lit - but I doubt the slide is open then. I would not do it again.

I could see potentially pool-hopping to SSR if I were taking a day off of the parks to visit DTD. I could also see using the pool-hopping at GF or CBR in conjunction with one of the kid's pirate cruises.

I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to pool-hop to the contemporary or to the wilderness lodge. Wait, I take that back. I could see planning an afternoon where we ate at WCC, then swam at WL, then took a boat to FW for the Chip and Dale campfire.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Why would I want to go the the pool at the Contemporary when I can go to the one at let's say Saratoga Springs Resort?? If you posted a survey I would "guesstimate" that maybe 15% - 20% of DVC owners pool hop on a regular basis. If it bothers you so much, perhaps you might consider staying off-site and then it won't ever be a problem??;) Please tell me where I said it bothered me? I have already said on this thread that my family & I have had no problems getting chairs at the Contemporary pool, so please tell me where I said this bothers me? If DVC members don't wish to pool hop to the Contemporary, great more chairs for my family & other Contemporary guests. Also we don't plan to ever stay off site again & the only reason I posted this question is because I wanted to know why DVC members who stay on points can pool hop & why regular guests could not? Based on some of the replies, I got my answer.

[Gymbomom]

We have pool hopped before. Not every trip, but we stay at our DVC resot for sometimes 3 weeks. We are never tempted by looking for something to do outside WDW, but we do like to make an afternoon of going to a different resort, eating lunch and letting the kids swim for awhile. We usually drive so it really is no trouble.

[2Princes2Princesses]

My name is Steph and I am WAYYYY too lazy to pool hop. :teeth:

[all4fun]

My name is Steph and I am WAYYYY too lazy to pool hop. :teeth:

:rotfl:

Hi, my name is Cheryl and I'm too lazy to pool hop too! One time they were refurbing the Luna Park pool and were boating BW guests over to SAB so we didn't even have to walk around... and that was too inconvenient for us! :laughing: We did it once and then happily used the quiet pool for the rest of our stay. lol

[dunkie7557]

Hi,
Has Disney officially nixed pool hopping? How can they monitor this? A friend told me at the BC they give their guests a wristband but who monitors this?

The thing is that BWV and BC /YC are so close that it is easy to do and would be bad if they take it away. But is it official yet or a rumor? My guide last week july 21st told me you can pool hop.

[Chuck S]

This thread is from 2003. Pool hopping is allowed to SSR.

It is not allowed to AKL or BCV. Stormalong Bay is fenced, and room keys are checked to obtain a wristband. It is monitored by the SAB personnel. Even though the Disney and DVC room keys are now "generic" there is still a code number on them that CMs check to see at which resort you are registered.

There are seasonal restrictions on pool hopping during high peak times, and you ae supposed to call the resort where you wish to swim to check to see if they are allowing it, due to capacity. Pool hopping, like almost all DVC perks and discounts, can be discontinued at any time.

[jagson]

We have a 2 BR reserved with 8 people registered (2 Members and 6 Guests) and I'm sure all 8 of us wouldn't agree on the same daily agenda. So can some of the guests go poolhopping here and there on their own sans the member?

[Deb & Bill]

We have a 2 BR reserved with 8 people registered (2 Members and 6 Guests) and I'm sure all 8 of us wouldn't agree on the same daily agenda. So can some of the guests go poolhopping here and there on their own sans the member?

They will need a blue member ID card with them.

[robinb]

Holy cow! The search feature must still work :rotfl:.

jagson, as long as your family members/friends have key cards with "DVC Member" on it they can pool hop. Remember that you can't pool hop to SAB or AKV and to check with DVC for black-out dates.

[jagson]

Sorry for the belated thanks for the info. Just one last question; will the guests' blue cards have the "DVC Member" notation on them?

[daisyduck123]

Sorry for the belated thanks for the info. Just one last question; will the guests' blue cards have the "DVC Member" notation on them?

:)

[dzorn]

DVC Member will be on the room key, but that is not the blue membership card. Only actual members (not Guests) have the membership ID cards.

Denise in MI

[Modeltrf]

I read this thread to get a better understanding of pool hopping. I think I've got it but the info on this thread seems a little old. I think I read/ was told there is a more current list of what you can and can't do with pool hoping. And also where you can't. Do you know of this more current pool hoping policies?

[quirty30]

Paraphrased from my copy of "Portable Perks"

You and any guests with you at DVC resorts are permitted to use other DVC and WDW resort hotel pools in addition to the pool at the resort hotel at which you are staying, if they are not at capacity. If the pool you are visiting reaches capacity, you may be asked to leave. Please check with a host/hostess at the front desk of the resort hotel you wish to visit to find out about pool access availability. You must present your KTTW card with the DVC member designation on it to use other resort hotel pools.

Pool hopping is not allowed at Stormalong Bay and the leisure pools of the Yacht & Beach Club resorts, or at Uzima Pool at AKL. No exceptions.

Pool hopping is not allowed on the following dates, due to expected high occupancy:

2/15-2/21/2009
4/4-4/18/2009
5/22-5/25/2009
6/28-7/5/2009

Other restricted dates may be added based on projected pool capacity.

[Deb & Bill]

The current edition of Disney Files has a paragraph about pool hopping. Pool hopping has also been prohibited at the Kidani Village pool and the BLT pool.

[Dean]

I read this thread to get a better understanding of pool hopping. I think I've got it but the info on this thread seems a little old. I think I read/ was told there is a more current list of what you can and can't do with pool hoping. And also where you can't. Do you know of this more current pool hoping policies?The info hasn't changed in a number of years other than the specific exclusion dates. All AKL/AKV and all YC/BC pools are off limits if not staying there. You have to check with the front desk of the destination to get permission and you may be asked to leave at any time due to crowding issues. Exclusions are normally higher demand times, mostly dates of major holidays plus Easter.

[Modeltrf]

Thanks everyone above! These boards are such a help...and a little addicting also.

[dairyqueenmom]

We started pool hopping our 1st DVC trip and I am certain it will be a family trip tradition.

[LiseG]

Thanks for the update...We're staying at Animal Kingdom in September. It sounds like we're already at a great pool, but knowing we have options is great. We're actually not doing the parks this time just hanging out 2-1/2 days before boarding the Disney Cruise pirate:

[DisneyMJA]

I have to say that when browsing this forum, finding this discussion opened an old wound for me. Pool hopping! Here might be another take on the pool hopping rules discussion. Many of you have indicated that you usually do not pool hop and I have really only pool hopped once. But I always intended to pool hop to one of my fav pools - SAB. It really angers me that they have banned SAB for DVC members. The reason for me is simple. When we were considering purchasing our DVC membership in 1995, I mentioned to our DVC guide that I was hesitant because we really enjoyed staying at YC/BC and the pool there - SAB. He assured us that it wasn't an issue since DVC members (staying on property of course) could pool hop to ANY pool at WDW. So when we purchased into DVC we were doing so with the rules of the time - pool hopping allowed at SAB. Then a few years later poof - no more pool hopping to SAB. I hate the fact that you purchase under one set of "rules" that can so easily be changed. The rules at purchase should be the rules for lifetime.

So you can imagine my excitement when DVC announced BCV. Stayed there once and decided that SAB wasn't worth giving up our OKW room layout for!!!

Just had to vent and give another opinion!

[Deb & Bill]

Well, pool hopping is a perk and perks come and go all the time. You won't find rigid rules about pool hopping written in the Public Offering Statement (POS).

[Dean]

I have to say that when browsing this forum, finding this discussion opened an old wound for me. Pool hopping! Here might be another take on the pool hopping rules discussion. Many of you have indicated that you usually do not pool hop and I have really only pool hopped once. But I always intended to pool hop to one of my fav pools - SAB. It really angers me that they have banned SAB for DVC members. The reason for me is simple. When we were considering purchasing our DVC membership in 1995, I mentioned to our DVC guide that I was hesitant because we really enjoyed staying at YC/BC and the pool there - SAB. He assured us that it wasn't an issue since DVC members (staying on property of course) could pool hop to ANY pool at WDW. So when we purchased into DVC we were doing so with the rules of the time - pool hopping allowed at SAB. Then a few years later poof - no more pool hopping to SAB. I hate the fact that you purchase under one set of "rules" that can so easily be changed. The rules at purchase should be the rules for lifetime.

So you can imagine my excitement when DVC announced BCV. Stayed there once and decided that SAB wasn't worth giving up our OKW room layout for!!!

Just had to vent and give another opinion!I don't have any problem with it's removal because I understand why. However, I do have a problem with allowing one way PH, they should simply say no PH to or from BCV/YC and AKV. Fair and appropriate to everyone.

[jade1]

I have to say that when browsing this forum, finding this discussion opened an old wound for me. Pool hopping! Here might be another take on the pool hopping rules discussion. Many of you have indicated that you usually do not pool hop and I have really only pool hopped once. But I always intended to pool hop to one of my fav pools - SAB. It really angers me that they have banned SAB for DVC members. The reason for me is simple. When we were considering purchasing our DVC membership in 1995, I mentioned to our DVC guide that I was hesitant because we really enjoyed staying at YC/BC and the pool there - SAB. He assured us that it wasn't an issue since DVC members (staying on property of course) could pool hop to ANY pool at WDW. So when we purchased into DVC we were doing so with the rules of the time - pool hopping allowed at SAB. Then a few years later poof - no more pool hopping to SAB. I hate the fact that you purchase under one set of "rules" that can so easily be changed. The rules at purchase should be the rules for lifetime.

So you can imagine my excitement when DVC announced BCV. Stayed there once and decided that SAB wasn't worth giving up our OKW room layout for!!!

Just had to vent and give another opinion!

Welcome to the boards.

[goodferry]

If you are staying at Kidani Village are you allowed to swim in the feature pool at AKL? or is that considered pool hopping?

[chalee94]

If you are staying at Kidani Village are you allowed to swim in the feature pool at AKL? or is that considered pool hopping?

AKV = kidani + jambo house (the old "AKL").

no, it is not pool hopping to use the pool at jambo house if you are staying at kidani...it is all part of AKV.

[margitmouse]

ok, another pool hopping question. Swan and Dolphin are they or are they not included?

[Deb & Bill]

ok, another pool hopping question. Swan and Dolphin are they or are they not included?

No, they are not operated by Disney. You cannot pool hop to S/D or any of the DTD hotels.

[dzorn]

Current info from Members Site

Pool Hopping Information
Whenever you are staying on your Membership at Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort, Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas, Disney's Beach Club Villas, Disney's BoardWalk Villas, Disney's Old Key West Resort, Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, Disney's Vero Beach Resort, or The Villas at Disney's Wilderness Lodge, you and any Guests staying with you, are permitted to use most of the other Disney Vacation Club and Walt Disney World® Resort hotel pools (in addition to the pool at the resort hotel at which you are staying) if they are not at capacity. If the pool you are visiting reaches capacity, you may be asked to leave in order to accommodate Guests of that resort hotel. Please check with a Host or Hostess at the Front Desk of the resort hotel you wish to visit before you go to find out about pool-access availability. You must present your current "Key to the World" card with your "DVC Member" designation on it to use the other resort hotel pools.




Pool hopping is not available at Bay Cove Pool at Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort, Uzima Pool and Samawati Springs Pool at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge, Stormalong Bay at Disney's Yacht & Beach Club Resorts, and the leisure pool at Disney's Beach Club Villas. There are no exceptions to this policy. As a reminder, during times of high occupancy, please be mindful of the limited number of pool chairs available, and refrain from leaving towels or personal items on unoccupied pool chairs.




Resort hotel pools may become unavailable from time to time due to capacity limitations. Due to the high occupancy that is expected, Disney Vacation Club Members and any Guests staying with them may not pool hop during the following dates*:




•February 14-20, 2010 (Sun – Sat)
•March 27 – April 10, 2010 (Sun – Sat)
•May 28 – 31, 2010 (Fri – Mon)
•June 27 – July 5 (Sun – Mon)
•Sept 3 – 6, 2010 (Fri – Mon)
•Nov 22 – 28, 2010 (Mon – Sun)
•Dec 12, 2010 – Jan 2, 2011 (Sun – Mon)


*Other restricted dates may be added based on projected pool capacity

Denise in MI

[vicki_c]

A mod should close this thread started in 2003!

Way too much (now) inaccurate information in it.

[CarolMN]

A mod should close this thread started in 2003!

Way too much (now) inaccurate information in it.

I agree. If someone has a pool hopping question or wants to start another thread to discuss pool hopping, please feel free to do so. I am going to close this one.

[CarolMN]

My apologies - apparently this is our one and only ongoing discussion thread for pool hopping. :guilty::guilty: :eek: I am re-opening it. :)

Please note that pool hopping rules do change eery now and then - current info can be found on the Members' website.

Feel free to resume the discussion here - :teeth:

[vicki_c]

My apologies - apparently this is our one and only ongoing discussion thread for pool hopping. :guilty::guilty: :eek: I am re-opening it. :)

Please note that pool hopping rules do change eery now and then - current info can be found on the Members' website.

Feel free to resume the discussion here - :teeth:

Really? News to me as well.

[CarolMN]

Really? News to me as well.
Well, I'm supposed to know - I've been here long enough! :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Here's the Sticky Thread that tells us about the ongoing discussions:

Ongoing DVC Discussion Topics (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1193808)

[DVCconvert]

CarolMN

If this should happen again -- we'll have to beat you with a wet pool noodle!
:lmao::lmao::rotfl2:

;)

[scout68]

Love the hop. Its too bad you can't arrange for a trade for the day if both parties are staying at different resorts with an "exclusive pool".

[Bell30012]

Each trip my DD7 and I take we have a different "theme" or idea behind it. Sure, we nail all four parks and ride the rides but we dedicate a couple hours a day to exploring something and learning something about Disney World.

One trip was transportation - We rode every monorail that WDW has. There are 11 in case any one is curious. (This was her idea and she was only about 5 at the time.)

One trip was dedicated to Character Dining - Yep, we ate all those meals and it took me a while to get that weight off.

One trip was exploring resorts. You get the idea.

This next trip we are actually considering renting points to stay at a DVC resort with one of the perks being that we could "pool hop" to a different pool each day of the 7 day trip.

[Deb & Bill]

...This next trip we are actually considering renting points to stay at a DVC resort with one of the perks being that we could "pool hop" to a different pool each day of the 7 day trip.

Sorry, no can do. Pool hopping is a perk for members and the guests staying with them. If you aren't with the member and are compensating the member for that stay, you are not entitled to any DVC member perks.

You could buy your own contract and hop around to your heart's content as long as you don't pool hop to those pools where hopping isn't allowed or it isn't blocked out for the holiday period.

[Bell30012]

I'm sorry to hear that Disney's cast members told us that if we were renting DVC points we would have DVC Owner at the bottom of our "Keys" and would be entitled to all the privileges EXCEPT purchasing passes or food discounts.

[Maistre Gracey]

I may be a bonehead here, but can someone direct me to where the pool hopping privilege is listed on the website?

Thanx..
MG

[3DisneyKids]

I'm sorry to hear that Disney's cast members told us that if we were renting DVC points we would have DVC Owner at the bottom of our "Keys" and would be entitled to all the privileges EXCEPT purchasing passes or food discounts.

This is a tricky one--yes, often times renters (and thus non-owners) DO have the words "DVC Member" on the bottom of their key cards. Technically, you shouldn't. But often times the front desk CMs who check you in either don't know or don't remember to ask to see the blue member card. So, it is completely possible that you WILL get that printed on your card.

However, even if that is printed on your card, the CM at the pool to which you hop is SUPPOSED to ask for both your room key AND the blue member card.

The same is true for other perks (discounts on meals, etc.). For these, you have to show the blue member card. I would hate for you to go thinking that you would get all of the perks, when that is likely not the case. :goodvibes But at least now you can plan accordingly. :)

[Deb & Bill]

I'm sorry to hear that Disney's cast members told us that if we were renting DVC points we would have DVC Owner at the bottom of our "Keys" and would be entitled to all the privileges EXCEPT purchasing passes or food discounts.

That just comes down to not every CM knowing how DVC operates. The owner you rent from is required to tell Member Services that you are compensating them for their reservation.

[3DisneyKids]

That just comes down to not every CM knowing how DVC operates. The owner you rent from is required to tell Member Services that you are compensating them for their reservation.

Hey Deb, do you know what happens when someone trades into DVC through RCI? Any clue what is says on the key card? Just thinking out loud...

[Deb & Bill]

Hey Deb, do you know what happens when someone trades into DVC through RCI? Any clue what is says on the key card? Just thinking out loud...

Sorry, Erika, no I don't know.

[Bell30012]

Oh well, it was a good idea. I told my little snot that pool hopping was out and she said, "I guess you better shell out another hundred for the Water Parks." She is just too danged spoiled. She also has the list of restaurants pulled up on her MacBook... she's picking out where we are going to be "abusing" the DxDP.

[Maistre Gracey]

I may be a bonehead here, but can someone direct me to where the pool hopping privilege is listed on the website?

Thanx..
MG
Anyone?

MG

[Dean]

Hey Deb, do you know what happens when someone trades into DVC through RCI? Any clue what is says on the key card? Just thinking out loud...It does not say member, even if they are a member otherwise.

[chalee94]

Anyone?

MG

if you are logged in to the member site, this should work:

http://dvc.disney.go.com/dvc/member/perk/memberPerkDetail?id=MemberPerkDisneyPoolHoppingDet ailPage

[Maistre Gracey]

if you are logged in to the member site, this should work:

http://dvc.disney.go.com/dvc/member/perk/memberPerkDetail?id=MemberPerkDisneyPoolHoppingDet ailPage
Thanx, it worked. I still can't find it on my own, so I guess I'll save the link!

MG

[Dean]

Thanx, it worked. I still can't find it on my own, so I guess I'll save the link!

MGMember Privileges/Member Perks/Walt Disney World Resorts/Recreation/Water activities/PH

[Maistre Gracey]

Member Privileges/Member Perks/Walt Disney World Resorts/Recreation/Water activities/PH
Thanx..

MG

[bonnielynn]

I haven't read the entire thread, but wanted to say that we did pool hop last "adult" trip we had.. we checked out other dvc's... ex: we went to the Boardwalk pool for about an hour.. checked out the boardwalk..
We took a boat from SSR (our home resort) over to OKW.. we used the pool here for a bit.. and checked out the resort.

I enjoyed it and like the perk.. will I do it every time.. I doubt it.. but it does give you access to something else to do.. :thumbsup2

[Maistre Gracey]

I haven't read the entire thread, but wanted to say that we did pool hop last "adult" trip we had.. we checked out other dvc's... ex: we went to the Boardwalk pool for about an hour.. checked out the boardwalk..
We took a boat from SSR (our home resort) over to OKW.. we used the pool here for a bit.. and checked out the resort.

I enjoyed it and like the perk.. will I do it every time.. I doubt it.. but it does give you access to something else to do.. :thumbsup2
We do the same thing, except we "bar" hop the different resorts..
God, please don't get rid of the bar hopping perk.. :teeth:

MG

[chepic]

We do the same thing, except we "bar" hop the different resorts..
God, please don't get rid of the bar hopping perk.. :teeth:

MG

We did that one time....love the bar hop....even better, love the bus rides "home".

Cheryl