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mb2456
06-16-2004, 04:09 PM
Is the dress code liberal enough to allow flip flops during dinner?

Obviously not on formal and semi formal nights (7 night cruise), but on casual nights. I'll be wearing linen pants and collared shirts but not having to pack another pair of casual shoes would be nice.

Thanks for the help.

Mike:cool1:

DrCavin
06-16-2004, 04:57 PM
IMO, pack the shoes.... :(

TootyJane
06-16-2004, 04:58 PM
I say no to flip flops. :eek: I know you don't want to pack another pair of shoes but how about a pair of Topsiders?? Still casual but nicer looking.

DisneyPete
06-16-2004, 05:07 PM
OK, why do you give a crap what someone is wearing on their feet? I hope he doesn't put his little pigs up on the table and otherwise they are under the floor outside your view.

IMO, this is a vacation, wear what you are comfortable with.

DrCavin
06-16-2004, 05:24 PM
How did I know this would turn into a dress debate...:headache:

This is from Disney's web-site:

"What do I bring for evenings?
Let's talk about dinner clothes: We kindly request that no shorts, T-shirts or jeans be worn in any of our restaurants in the evening. Evening attire for the Animator's Palate and Parrot Cay dining rooms is casual. Button-down, open collar shirts or polo shirts and slacks are recommended for men."

I agree it does not say anything about shoes, but do they really need to be that specific?

greytlady
06-16-2004, 05:25 PM
I had packed my sandals but because I got cold in the shows at night (late dinner so dressed before show) - I ended up wearing my Keds everynight instead. I'd say flip flops are okay if you don't get cold feet. :D

misty9960
06-16-2004, 05:34 PM
Diddo!

ThreeCircles
06-16-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by DisneyPete
OK, why do you give a crap what someone is wearing on their feet? I hope he doesn't put his little pigs up on the table and otherwise they are under the floor outside your view.

IMO, this is a vacation, wear what you are comfortable with.

I think that Mike asked for opinions on this thread. Just as you gave yours others should be free to give their's as well.

goin2disneyagain
06-16-2004, 07:27 PM
Last month on my cruise on DCL I wore a very dressy pair of Liz Claiborne flip flops on semi-formal night. I originally intended to wear them on formal night as well until I happened to see a pair of heeled sandals that went perfectly with my dress. My flip flops, which I wore with a dressy top and dressy capris have rhinestones on them and are meant to be very dressy. They should be dressy flip flops for $40 (and that was on sale). :rolleyes: I never hesitated to wear them because they are very dressy. I noticed that I was not the only woman on the cruise wearing flip flops on formal and semi-formals nights. My sister-in-law wore her less dressy flip flops on some of the other nights of the cruise so wear your flip flops if you want. :)

ciadriamom
06-16-2004, 07:34 PM
This is an honest to goodness true story:

Last year in all of the excitement I forgot to pack our shoe bag. Yes, ladies, that means only ONE pair of shoes for the entire cruise!!!! :earseek:

My 2 dds and I were left wearing slippers of all things. We drove down from New Jersey. Granted it was only four days, and we did feel a little silly at Triton's but no one noticed or at least had the good graces not to say anything.

Moral: Don't sweat the small stuff, its vacation, enjoy. Only you will really know what you're wearing.

HappyMommy2
06-16-2004, 07:35 PM
I haven't cruised yet so I'm not a dress code expert, but I just wanted to say that I went into a shoe store today and saw probably 20 different types of women's flip flops--some were very dressy (some even had heels, velvet trim, etc.) and some weren't; some were classy and others weren't. I think there's a big difference in flip flop styles and I'm sure you aren't thinking of wearing the $1.99 foam-and-plastic ones from Wal Mart, so I say if you think they go nicely with your outfit, then go for it! :)

DrCavin
06-16-2004, 08:03 PM
I was think the original poster was a male, so I think the ones with heels & velvet trim are not what they had in mind :teeth:

inkkognito
06-16-2004, 08:32 PM
I actually saw flip flops in Palo once, but they totally went with the woman's outfit, which was a very classy (ha!) mummu type thing. But I guess I shouldn't make fun...once I forgot my dress shoes and ended up in my fancy black dress with a pair of $5 black canvas K-Mart shoes.
Barb

tinksmom
06-16-2004, 08:47 PM
I should think the flip flops would be fine.

On the other hand, I don't feel that the language of one of the above posters was appropriate for a "family-oriented" board. Just my humble opinion, though.

HappyMommy2
06-16-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by DrCavin
I was think the original poster was a male, so I think the ones with heels & velvet trim are not what they had in mind :teeth:


:crazy: :crazy: LOL! Sorry, Mike! Guess you won't be traveling with those cute velvet flip-flops, but even so I'm sure your flip-flops of choice should be fine. :)

CM_Mom
06-16-2004, 10:48 PM
For the ladies...JCPenney website has a "Cabin Creek 'Bali' Strappy Sandal" that I purchased last spring in black and wore almost every night since I had a slacks outfit for formal nights. They're flats with elastic straps criscrossing over the top. They're currently on sale in several colors for $12.99. I loved them because they take up almost no space in the suitcase and were comfortable.

Sorry Mike, I don't think these are really your style but I think the really nice (translate more expensive) "flip flops" would be fine with your linen pants. You ARE on vacation and they don't have a dress code patrol.

mb2456
06-17-2004, 12:36 AM
After reading everyone's opinion on this subject and after picking myself up off the floor from laughing, I have to thank you all. Your opinions and suggestions were as diverse as I would have expected.

I have decided that I will be packing and wearing my "expensive, leather" flip flops and I promise to keep my feet under the table!

However, since my cruise isn't for a few weeks (July 10th) I will be on the lookout for the rhinestone ones with the short heel and velvet straps. It just sounds yummy!

Again, thank you for your inputs.

Mike

disneyholic family
06-17-2004, 06:35 AM
what are flip flops?
I wear birkenstock sandals that don't have a backstrap...so perhaps those qualify as flip flops....
and yes i wear them to dinner on the ship (and everywhere else 365 days/year, except when i'm wearing a business suit........)...
on the last cruise i wore them with my capri pants..
if other people have a problem with it, i guess that's their problem...why are they looking at my feet?..
my daughter wears the same type...
DH and DS wear birkenstocks as well, but with a backstrap, so i guess they're not defined as flip flops...

mrsltg
06-17-2004, 07:40 AM
I'll be wearing flip-flops a lot on the cruise. I am a shoe fanatic (think Carrie on Sex and the City) and you can bet I own some lovely flip-flops that match my dressy Summer outfits! Out of courtesy to my fellow diners, I will make sure I have a pedicure so as not to offend anyone with my bare piggies!

Erin :D

DrCavin
06-17-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by tinksmom
I should think the flip flops would be fine.

On the other hand, I don't feel that the language of one of the above posters was appropriate for a "family-oriented" board. Just my humble opinion, though.

Which post would that be?

Jestocost
06-17-2004, 03:51 PM
LOL. At a charity event, my DW won a pair of $140 flip flops with Swarovski Crystal set into the straps! I'm thinking she can wear those on formal night.;)

http://store1.yimg.com/I/advantagebridal_1798_61851859

One serious observation, however. While DCL has posted dress code polices, I never saw anything enforced in any way on our four-day Wonder cruise. In fact, there was a group of four in ratty old T-shirts, cut-off jean shorts and flip flops all havng dinner together in Triton's on the first night. Maybe there was a lost luggage situation going on with that, but I saw many people dressed well below the published standards and no CM ever said a word to one of them. We didn't eat at Palo's, so maybe that's different.

I'm not saying that's right; it's just what I saw in practice. In fact, I think it's inappropriate to simply ignore the dress code just because you don't like it. I know I've seen people post with the, "I'm paying good money to go on the cruise and I'll dress as I please attitude," but if that's your attitude then you should choose to vacation at Dollywood, or something. You might as well take a cruise and then be ticked off about the fact that you have to spend most of your vacation on a boat.

Minnie&Mickey
06-17-2004, 04:00 PM
I'll be perfectly honest...I never noticed what a single other person was wearing in the dining rooms on any night of my cruise last week. I couldn't even tell you what my tablemates were wearing!

jrabbit
06-17-2004, 04:07 PM
Sorry about jumping in to the "debate" late. I'm a guy and I'm wearing sandals to the dinners with dark socks that go with my dark pants. This is on ALL nights - including formal and semi formal nights. If I went to Palo for dinner I'd be wearing my sandals there too.

I wear birkenstock sandals that don't have a backstrap...so perhaps those qualify as flip flops.... Why stop wearing them when you are in a suit - I wear my birk's all of the time including with my suits (I don't wear them to WDW/DL/DCL any more because of the heat and the potential for the torential downpours - that ruined a previous pair). A few times when I've worn my suit to work and didn't wear my birk's my coworkers just about had heart attacks so I stick with the birk's!

DMS_cruisers04
06-17-2004, 04:55 PM
don't know if they mean something different in CA, but the first thing that entered my mind when I saw Mike's post was a rubber pad with a strap that you secure by sliding the strap between your toes. That type of flip-flop, regardless of who is wearing them, who is making them or how much you had to pay for them, is not, in any way, shape or form, dressy. I see so many young ladies "flopping" around and I just want to say, do you realize how unattractive that looks? It's as bad as skirts that are too short, shirts that are too low-cut and wearing too much make-up. Do I consider myself the "fashion-police"? No, just a guy's opinion from a guy.
That said, Mike, if you feel the "flip-flops" you have would be appropriate for dinner, then so-be-it. I, myself, would pack the extra shoes. ::yes:: :teeth:

cathie
06-17-2004, 05:22 PM
Who is looking at people's feet while their eating? Does it really matter what type of shoe you are wearing? I'm sure that people who take the time to dress nicely for dinner will wear shoes that are comfortable & appropriate for them. Some people love to dress up & for others it's just not their thing. We've been on two cruises & I've never seen anyone dressed poorly or tacky at dinner. Let's enjoy ourselves & stop making everyone try to think the same way! Disney Magic..only one month left!! Cathie & The Gang::yes:: :grouphug: :mickeybar

mmouse37
06-17-2004, 05:52 PM
Thought this was interesting....I just found it on MSN.com

Flip Flops
Dime store flip flops are more popular than ever, and come in every color and style imaginable. While these shoes have been used with skirts, pants and other dressy outfits in fashion magazines, your best bet is to not wear them to work. The bottom line when it comes to shoes is that if you can wear them in the shower, you should leave them at home.

I know they are talking about work....but formal night might fall into the same category.

I do not have to worry as I can't stand anything between my toes except sand!!!

MJ

tinksmom
06-18-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by DrCavin
Which post would that be?



That would be the one with the word we don't allow our 10 yo DD to use -- c _ _ p. I'm by no means a prud -- I say that word, but not in front of kids. And since kids read this board I just didn't think it was appropriate.

jordgubben
06-18-2004, 12:18 PM
I think that most people missed the part on the original post where he mentioned that he wasn't talking about wearing flip flops to formal or semi-formal night... anyway.....

So, I'm no expert but I think that flip flops are gaining some respect as far as footwear is concerned. I am a HUGE fan of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Carson has paired flip flops/sandles with a number of outfits and I think they look really great and the person still looks neat and put together. I think for a guy that flip flops/sandles and khakis are the perfect cruise outfit for dinner on the non-formal nights.

disneyholic family
06-19-2004, 01:38 AM
jrabbit --
socks with sandals???????????????????????????...
ok....no comment.....

no...i've got to comment....
socks with sandals?????????????????????????????????

are you perhaps an engineer or computer geek?
not that i'm stereotyping or anything...
but socks with sandals??????????????????????

although, perhaps you live on the arctic circle and then i guess it makes sense...

i live in a climate that makes orlando look frigid, so the whole point of wearing sandals would be lost if i were to add socks to my birks.....

so to clarify....i'll be the one in either a matching capri pants set, or perhaps even a designer resort casual suit, with flip flop birks on my feet.....

if it's a problem for you, don't look at my feet....you probably won't be looking at the rest of me either, as at my age, there are certainly more interesting views to be had elsewhere....

oh...and yes jrabbit, i'll also be wearing my birks in the parks when it rains......so far (knock on wood) i've never had a problem with it...

bobsuzla
06-19-2004, 06:35 AM
I too, have a reply,

Socks with sandals? I second that motion with an incredulous: HUH?

The only people I know who do this are the very old, or those who truly are tourists (I live in a very tourist laden beach community, I have seen it all)

With that said, however, let me also say this: To each, his own. I say, go for it... but reconsider them if you are wearing flip flops, this tends to wear holes in your socks a bit quicker!!!

3DisneyNUTS
06-19-2004, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by DMS_cruisers04
don't know if they mean something different in CA, but the first thing that entered my mind when I saw Mike's post was a rubber pad with a strap that you secure by sliding the strap between your toes. That type of flip-flop, regardless of who is wearing them, who is making them or how much you had to pay for them, is not, in any way, shape or form, dressy. I see so many young ladies "flopping" around and I just want to say, do you realize how unattractive that looks? It's as bad as skirts that are too short, shirts that are too low-cut and wearing too much make-up. Do I consider myself the "fashion-police"? No, just a guy's opinion from a guy.
That said, Mike, if you feel the "flip-flops" you have would be appropriate for dinner, then so-be-it. I, myself, would pack the extra shoes. ::yes:: :teeth:


OMGosh you guys are really "out of it", flip flops are the latest trend. Walk around NYC and you will now see thousands of flip flops from the $1 kind to the $1000 kind. It is the latest trend started last summer I think. So flip flops are finally getting their time to shine IMO they are the best summer "shoe" . It is about time people are saying comfort can be fashionable. I mean as much as I loved the aerosoles trend they would still get hot no matter what sandal style you had one. Now with fancy flip flops you can stay comfy and cool and be sofisticated!:) Omg remember when everyone was wearing doc martins even in the summer with dresses? I still have my docs but they have been kicked to the fall wardrobe give me my flip flops anytime :)

3DisneyNUTS
06-19-2004, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by mmouse37
Thought this was interesting....I just found it on MSN.com

Flip Flops
Dime store flip flops are more popular than ever, and come in every color and style imaginable. While these shoes have been used with skirts, pants and other dressy outfits in fashion magazines, your best bet is to not wear them to work. The bottom line when it comes to shoes is that if you can wear them in the shower, you should leave them at home.

I know they are talking about work....but formal night might fall into the same category.

I do not have to worry as I can't stand anything between my toes except sand!!!

MJ
WHOOHOO should have read ahead!!!

3DisneyNUTS
06-19-2004, 07:20 AM
http://a602.g.akamai.net/7/602/175/2004052411/cache1.jcpenney.com/images/regular/0900631b809d70ccR.jpg
I don't know if this will work but I love these thanks for the post :) andd these are not flip flops for those who need to know :) These are sandals :)

BethA
06-19-2004, 08:49 AM
My dad and sometimes my mom wear socks with sandals--drives my teenager crazy, but I'm sure they aren't crazy about some of his attire either. I hate to think people are looking at mu feet in the dining room--it might ruin their appetite!!!
My one friend left her bag of shoes at home and spent the whole cruise in sneakers, she refused to go to the dining room that way, but I say where them if you want-they will be under your pants.
Next we will be discussing whether thong underwear is okay. Who wants to comment first!
One week to the Magic!!
Beth

RickW
06-19-2004, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by BethA
Next we will be discussing whether thong underwear is okay. Who wants to comment first!
Well, as much as I don't care what other people wear, I don't think that coming to dinner wearing only a thong would be appropriate. ;)

disneyholic family
06-19-2004, 12:47 PM
well i think that would all depend on who's wearing the thong...:D

Minnie&Mickey
06-19-2004, 01:27 PM
Eewwwww! Let's stop this whole thong conversation now! You are bringing back too many unpleasant memories of the lady that I saw over by Cookies at Castaway Cay. Let's just say, there are people that might look good in a thong bathing suit and there are others that don't...this lady fell into the later category. Hers wasn't a total thong (think dental floss), but more like a tiny little triangle that didn't cover much of anything in the back. And when she leaned over the area where the fruit is to grab a piece for her daughter, and her very flabby, cellulite-y stomach laid to rest on the first row of fruit...well, let's just say I told my family that we weren't going to be eating any fruit that day! Ick!

Minnie&Mickey
06-19-2004, 08:41 PM
Just so you don't think I am a terrible person for pointing out this woman's imperfections, I should add that my stomach is just as flabby and cellulite-y, if not worse, than this woman's was (and please don't look at my thighs :eek: ), but I keep it very much covered and off of the fruit. As sweaty and covered in sunscreen as we all are at CC, it just kind of made me lose my appetite to see her skin touching the food like that.

Donnainnj
06-19-2004, 09:40 PM
re the socks with sandals,
when we went to Hawaii, DDad told me he was going to wear his with socks, he has diabetis (S?) and can't wear them without. I kind of hinted maybe he should just stick with the sneakers, poor guy, he did. I always thought wearing sandals with socks kind of defeats the purpose.
About flip-flops, I to am one who can't handle anything between my toes, but am looking for a way to cut back on shoes for our Oct cruise. We are a family of 4 with big feet, and the kids just keep growing for some reason.

disneyholic family
06-19-2004, 10:50 PM
Donnainnj --
never thought of people like your dad.....good to know for the future....

as for big feet....DH wears a 14 shoe, DS a 13, DD an 11...(i'm the lilliputian in the land of the giants....only a 7.5....)...
so yes, i too try to keep the footwear to a minimum...
this is what i think we'll bring: one pair birks for each....one pair water sandals for everyone but DH ("source" water sandals -- sort of like tevas but much simpler).....one pair gym shoes for each for the work out room.....and that's it......and just that will probably take up an entire suitcase....

Minnie&Mickey - Holly, your post totally cracked me up.... and brought back some rather dubious memories.....

sters
06-22-2004, 09:26 PM
It's a vacation! People should wear what they are comfortable wearing, whether that is socks with sandles or flip flops or slippers. For those who care about these things, you'll have fun mocking them, like my dad who wears dark dress socks to the beach. :rolleyes:

aprilgail2
06-22-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by BethA
My dad and sometimes my mom wear socks with sandals--drives my teenager crazy, but I'm sure they aren't crazy about some of his attire either.Beth

I finally broke my mom of that habit!! Now if I can only get her to stop wearing socks when she wears shorts with sneakers!! I bought her the little ped type socks but when she puts on the big old socks with shorts she looks crazy LOL!!

MrsPete
06-23-2004, 08:15 AM
My opinion:

For men, flip-flops are fine during the day but are too casual for the dining room. The cost of the flip-flops is not an issue; you might have a very expensive bathing suit, but it's not appropriate for dinner either. For those of you who are into complete comfort, I'd suggest Topsiders or leather boat shoes (thinking casual nights here). My hubbie wears them all the time without socks. For formal nights, if you're wearing a suit, guys, you're pretty much stuck with the dress shoes.

For women, flip-flops run a wide range. Obviously, the plastic wear-to-the-pool type is out. But a pair of dressy leather flip-flops or a pair of colored flip-flops with beads might be just right with a sundress for casual night. Black with rhinestones might do for formal night. And, of course, ladies can get away with just about anything if they're wearing a long dress on formal night. Don't be jealous guys -- we ladies can get away with this one little thing, but our wardrobes are more complicated in general!

greytlady
06-23-2004, 08:17 AM
I admit I'm one of those that carries a little pair of socks to wear with my Birks. I try not to wear socks with sandals but my toes are always cold so I end up putting on those little ankle socks to wear with my sandals. Oh well.

MarcyIn Florida
08-11-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by mb2456
Is the dress code liberal enough to allow flip flops during dinner?

Obviously not on formal and semi formal nights (7 night cruise), but on casual nights. I'll be wearing linen pants and collared shirts but not having to pack another pair of casual shoes would be nice.




Well, as a big What Not To Wear Fan, I was surprised to see that they feel nice flip flops are very cool and appropriate with casual men's wear. Of course, when i think of flip flops, I think of the cheap ones at Target, and not the Abercrombie ones, so iguess it depends on the flip flop.

Fashion Guru Advice (http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/whatnottowear/stylegurus/clinton.html)

Tinkertude
08-11-2004, 08:56 PM
Mike, if famous designer, Isacc Mizrahi was on board at the same time as you there would be two trend setters aboard. I say if you feel confident go for it!

rjones69
08-12-2004, 07:40 AM
I say a man should not have hairy feet exposed at dinner. A tightly woven strapy sandal yes maybe. I vote for the topsiders.

rjones69
08-12-2004, 07:48 AM
Mike,
It looks as if you have already taken the July 10th cruise. Please tell us what you wore and whether you felt you made the right choice. Did you look at other men and see what the majority of footwear was?

goofysgirl
08-12-2004, 08:42 AM
I just can't help it I have to post! I too forgot to pack the "dressy" shoes on our first seven night cruise. After a teary eyed daughter realized that it was okay to wear her little higher heeled flip flops with her formal, she went to dinner and no one was the wiser!!
Homecoming and Jr prom rolled around this year and guess what? DD wore a dressy Candy black flip flop with her formal gowns. She was the most comfortable at the dance, and may just have started a new trend at the high school!
Socks with sandals....daughters always wear them with the Adidas bubble sandals. Again a new trend started.
Honestly though as another poster already stated I can't remember what anyone wears I am so caught up with the beauty of the ship and the lively conversations, I forget to see who had what on.
So I say wear your leather flip flops and have lots of fun, make new friends and enjoy!!
:earsboy: :earsgirl: :earsgirl: :earsgirl: :earsgirl:

mb2456
08-12-2004, 04:36 PM
Hi all,
I've been back a month and was surprised to see my flip flop inquiry was still going on.

Yes, I did take them and did end up wearing them for two casual nights one being the tropical night. They were certainly appropriate for the evening and I didn't receive any dirty looks from anyone. Then again, my feet aren't too hairy!!!

The cruise was a blast (see my trip report "random thoughts.....) and you'll get a better idea of how it went. For those who use this board, it's important to stress the big stuff, but don't sweat the small. Enjoy your well earned vacation.

Mike