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diz_princess
03-21-2004, 11:17 AM
We are thinking of taking our 8 mo son on a cruise. I was reading up on some comments about infants on the cruises...is it correct that infants are not allowed in the pools on the cruise?
Thanks!

scottie
03-21-2004, 11:39 AM
Based on the DCL website:

Is it true that children must be toilet-trained in order to enter the pools?

Yes. The United States Public Health Service requires that only children who are toilet-trained be permitted to enter swimming pools and spas on board cruise ships. Young children, who are not toilet trained, are welcome to enjoy the fountain play area near the Mickey Pool that has been designed exclusively for the enjoyment of children wearing swim diapers.

NCRedding
03-21-2004, 11:39 AM
One ear of the Mickey pool is designated for non-potty trained children. It is deep enough to splash in and it feels like they're in a pool.

Zandy595
03-21-2004, 11:47 AM
Where is the fountain play area? I don't remember seeing it on the Wonder on our last cruise.

I've read posts where some people say that one Mickey ear is for babies in swim diapers, while I've read others that say (swim diaper or not) ONLY potty trained children are allowed in the pools. Does DCL have pool rules in writing somewhere?

scottie
03-21-2004, 11:49 AM
Zandy595- When I read the DCL site info, I thought the same thing. I couldn’t recall seeing a fountain play area when we cruised in 02’. Maybe I just missed it??

MarkRG
03-21-2004, 11:52 AM
The last cruise I was on, Western, last May, was when they did the modification to said ear on the Magic to allow the toddlers some splashing area. Looked very nice.

Yes. The United States Public Health Service requires that only children who are toilet-trained be permitted to enter swimming pools and spas on board cruise ships. Young children, who are not toilet trained, are welcome to enjoy the fountain play area near the Mickey Pool that has been designed exclusively for the enjoyment of children wearing swim diapers.
I see they havn't updated the website better.

One ear of the Mickey pool is now only a zero depth splashing area for the toddlers, I believe it has some kind of fountian thing going on. They separated it water wise from the rest of the pool to prevent cross-contamination. The rest of the Mickey pool is for potty trained kids only. That was my understanding when I stopped to ask.

talicskai
03-21-2004, 01:32 PM
Jan31/04 we were on the Magic and one of the ears of the Mickey pool is used for babies only. They are very strict about kids being potty trained in the main part of the pool. All the babies I saw in the "toddler pool" were enjoying it very much. It didn't seem to be much of an issue for them.
I don't think the Wonder has modified their pool yet, but perhaps recent cruisers could update you?

NCRedding
03-21-2004, 02:22 PM
We were on the Wonder 10/03 and it had been modified for infants and toddlers. I agree with talicskai: the toddlers I saw in the splash area appeared to be enjoying it very much.

diz_princess
03-22-2004, 10:46 AM
Anyone have pictures of the pool area for infants/toddlers?
Thank you:)

Willandharry
03-22-2004, 11:01 AM
We took our 13 month old and not being allowed in the pool was awful. The Mickey ear is good if your child has no interest in the big pool, but mine did. Furthermore, I am sure there are many "Pottytrained" kids (I saw toddlers)doing their business in the main pool. For my next trip , I maight just say my son is trained like the rest of them.
Also, take adavantage of the babysitting. They were wonderful and made it so we could enjoy a break.

Zandy595
03-22-2004, 11:24 AM
... Furthermore, I am sure there are many "Pottytrained" kids (I saw toddlers)doing their business in the main pool. For my next trip , I maight just say my son is trained like the rest of them.

That's disgusting! You see other parents letting their kids do it, so you think it's OK to let your's? I hope I interpreted that post wrong.

markmyboy
03-22-2004, 01:56 PM
I must admit we saw plenty of non potty trained toddlers & even infants being brought into the Mickey pool. We brought it to the attention of the nearest CM, but she just called somone on her walkie talkie & nothing was ever said to the parents. I was there with my 5 year old son & 20 month old daughter. She was perfectly happy to splash around in the ear, but unfortunately most of the others with infants decided to bring them into the Mickey Pool!!??!! I am not usually one to be extremely germophobic, but with the amount of water that my 5 year old ingests while splashing in the pool, I was not going to risk him being in there with the non-potty trained set.

5 or 6 other 2 year olds could have fit comfortably in there with my daughter, heck, 10 or 12 of them could have hung out around the sides, but it seemed everyone wanted to be IN the Mickey Pool, and unfortunately the rules were not enforced. I would just send my son down the Mickey slide a few times & if he really wanted to swim we would have taken him to the Goofy Pool, but he would usually just say he wanted to go do something else...usually get ice cream!!!!

PLEASE take into consideration the rules & why they are in place, it is for the overall health of ALL passengers. Once one of those non pottry trained kids makes a mess in the Mickey pool, it will be closed for hours, maybe even the remainder of the day. I personally find it a good lesson for my five year old, explaining why I am taking him out of the pool, how breaking the rules can sometimes ruin things for other people. I usually try to do so in ear shot of the "offenders"!!

I do have a couple pics of my daughter in the "ear" I will ask my husband to help me post one for you!!

NYGiantsRule!
03-22-2004, 02:09 PM
On our last cruise they had to shut down the pool and clean it. It means that the entire area is closed off and everything nearby gets wet (deck, chairs, etc.). I know this topic comes up frequently but IMO please have some consideration for your fellow cruisers and follow the rules.

Zandy595
03-22-2004, 02:17 PM
Well said, markmyboy.

crisi
03-22-2004, 02:18 PM
Urine is generally sterile and as such doesn't pose too much of a health risk (this is not posted as carte blanche to let people teach their kids its ok to pee in a pool - gross! On the other hand, anyone under the impression that the Mickey Pool - or any public pool - is pee-free because only potty trained kids are allowed in is welcome to cash a reality check). Feces is another matter. Many non-potty trained kids will poop in a pool. As has been stated, the pool then needs to be closed and completely cleaned.

makaylee
03-22-2004, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Willandharry
. Furthermore, I am sure there are many "Pottytrained" kids (I saw toddlers)doing their business in the main pool. For my next trip , I maight just say my son is trained like the rest of them.


Just because you suspected other parents were doing it doesn't make it okay for you to do it also. That is very disrespectful to the other childrens health if you put your child in the pool knowing full well he/she is not potty trained! :mad:

markmyboy
03-22-2004, 04:12 PM
here are a couple of pictures...hope this works

http://www.wdwinfo.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3897

http://www.wdwinfo.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3898

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
03-22-2004, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the pictures! Is that like inflatable or cushioned around the edges of that ear? Or hard? Just curious... since it'd be slippery in there and obviously the non-potty trained children in there would be alone without a parent in there with them.

I also have a question- can someone explain to me how EACH pool is? I thought I read at some point that one pool is for children, one for families, and then ofcourse the adults only pool. How does that work exactly? So in one pool only children and no parents with them? So that would mean they have to be good swimmers- right?
And the family pool- is that one that non-pottytrained children can go into with the parents?
Can someone please explain each pool to me? It seems like it's going to be an issue if you have 2 or more children at different age leves/different swimming capabilities, etc.

mickey pool- who's allowed in this pool? I realize the mickey's ear is for nonpotty trained infants... up to what age? Any age that isn't potty trained? Or is there an age max there too?

Goofy pool- who all is allowed in this pool?

MickeyB426
03-22-2004, 05:08 PM
Quiet Cove Adult Pool - adults only, no children allowed. This is located at Deck 9, forward. This is a rectangular pool, around 4 feet deep. There are two whirlpools there as well.

Goofy's Family Pool - same size as the Quiet Cove Pool, also with two whirlpools. Located at Deck 9, Midship. All are allowed.

Mickey's Children's Pool - Located at Deck 9, rear, this is made up of Mickey's face (18 inches deep), his ears (11 inches deep) and a waterslide.

The slide only allows kids from 4-14 and from 32-64 inches tall.

Most of the time, the kids splash and play in the face part of the pool, and the parents sit on the side with their legs in the pool, watching their kids.

The ears serve as wading pools for the little kids.

Although it is primarily used by children, there is no set rule. All are welcome in the Mickey pool, EXCEPT...

Health regulations dictate that all children must be potty-trained and may not wear swim diapers in any of the pools.



Hope this helps!

crisi
03-22-2004, 05:11 PM
Mickey Pool: Children's pool....we saw a FEW parents in here with their kids, but most parents seem to line the edge of the pool ready to jump in if their four year old gets dunked. The deepest part of the pool was about waist high on my five year old. Deep enough for non-swimmers to "swim" but not deep enough to worry that anyone will go over their head. One ear is a fountain play area dominated by the tot set (although I don't know that its reserved for them - I didn't see a lot of older kids in there). The ears are hard plastic, so yes, they get slippery - you couldn't walk on them, but you can sit on the edge. The other ear was shallow and was being used by the kids as a "mini spa" (although the water wasn't hot and the bubbling was coming from all the kicking. The slide is pretty tall (two flights of steps), but ends in ankle deep water.

Goofy pool: Water was up to my chest - one depth (I'm 5'7"). This is the family pool. My little ones were in here in swim vests. I understand that this can be cannonball central, but we were never here when it was busy (we were here at 8:00am and during CC day - we had it to ourselves!). Anyone (who is potty trained) can use the Goofy pool (does that mean us post pregancy leakers can't?).

Quiet Cove Pool: Adults only Don't know much about the pool We enjoyed the hot tubs here. It is peaceful and they do a good job of keeping it pretty relatively kid free (occationaly kids will wander by on deck - but we never saw any near the pool).

Waitstaff at the quiet pool serves ample rum drinks....but you might have to look a tiny bit harder at the other pools (but not too hard!).

hydster
03-22-2004, 05:12 PM
If I remember correctly the area is hard tile all the way around the pool. Most parents can sit on the edge of the Mickey pool or the ear and be right by their small children. When we saw small children in the ear their parents were right behind them or next to them on the side sitting there.

The Mickey pool is the most shallow pool therefore a lot of smaller kids who need parental supervision are in that pool. Also next to that pool is the Mickey Slide. We saw mostly small children in the Mickey pool around ages 2-4 or 5 maybe. It wasnt all that deep if I remember correctly but then we didnt spend a lot of time at the pools since our cruise was so short.

The Goofy Pool in my opinion is probably one of the scariest pools I've ever been in. Kids are jumping in all over the place not caring if there are others around that they are jumping on or not. It was pretty wild and I'd say a good portion of people in there either were parents holding their little children up or bigger kids who could swim on their own. They only have the 2 pool options for the kids so I'd have to say the Mickey Pool is for the younger set and the Goofy pool is for the older set. Also the goofy pool had some of the rudest children I have ever encountered and a lot of them didnt have their parents anywhere near them. THey were probably in the adult pool while the rest of us policed their kids. I will not let my kids go to the Goofy pool without me so that if there is an issue I can handle it! It seemed really out of control and scary to me as a parent and for the amount of kids on board it seemed way to small. Also by the end of the day that pool was so scummy it was gross! I think they need to re-think their pools on a new ship as the majority of swimmers are ages 5-15 or so and they are stuffed in the goofy pool and have nowhere else to go.

The only pool that non-potty trained kids can go in is the one designated Mickey Ear. Otherwise they need to be trained to be in the Mickey pool itself or in the goofy pool. We went with our 9,7 and 3 year olds and we ended up taking the 3 yr old with us into the goofy pool and letting him hold on to us while we swam around (if you can call getting smacked in the head, splashed on and jumped on swimming) and then our other kids loved the mickey slide so they would do that and we would stay in the mickey pool with our 3 year old. I think the only posted age pool is the adult pool where no one under 18 is allowed other than that kids of all ages can be in either pool.

HTH
Heidi

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
03-22-2004, 05:17 PM
My question about the black part around the edge of the mickey's ear (for non-pottytrained children) was because I immediately (when seeing those pictures) got visions of tiny tot feet (if not potty trained- then possibly just learning to walk) walking along in the slipper bottom of that- and falling to conk their head on the big black sides showing there. So I wondered if it was hard, cushioned or inflatable there. If hard... I imagine many goose-eggs on foreheads/heads happen there. :(

So goofy pool is for everyone that is potty trained? Am I correct there? But this is also the pool that I have seen reports of bigger kids cannonballing, dunking, etc.
Yet the Mickey pool is primarily for children with parents not in there with them. So it seems like a choice... kids in Mickey pool alone, shallow water but need to be able to swim good so that the pool is not full of parents with their children and so they can enjoy the slide...... or all of the family in the Goofy pool but take a chance of getting hurt by bigger kids jumping in/etc.

What a choice. LOL Especially if you'll be going with 3 children with a big variance in ages (ours will be 4, 7 and 11 at the time of our cruise) I think our 11yr old will just have to deal with being in the Mickey pool or go back to the lab or something... I won't let her go swimming by herself (I'm not going to let her sign herself out of the labs either- I'm a mean mommy. LOL) and I'm not going to risk my younger ones getting hurt in the Goofy pool (my son is short- he's not a big 6yr old now so unless he grows a lot- he won't look 7 when he's 7 either... so it's not like the Mickey pool will be real shallow to him)

(ps. if the slide was based only on height- I'd be able to use it! I wonder if I could get away with pretending I'm 14... doubtful. But I'm short enough! LOL)

talicskai
03-22-2004, 05:18 PM
FYI - the height on the water slide is actually 38 inches or taller. My daughter was 37 inches last year and they would not let her all. Talk about devastated! Thank goodness this year she was bigger!

talicskai
03-22-2004, 08:23 PM
I have a handicapped son who normally walks with braces on his legs. He was able to walk in the ear of the pool without falling, so it could not have been that slippery. I am normally very paranoid of him being hurt by other kids because he is so unsteady on his feet. I never once had an incident with him being hurt. I found the Mickey pool very safe and was very comfortable with him in both the deeper part and in the ear. Relax and let the kids enjoy it. I did however, not enjoy the Goofy pool. It is too far down to get into and very crowded. The Mickey pool is also crowded but it was fun to visit with the other parents and get a great tan with doing it!

Roemama1
03-22-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by talicskai
I I did however, not enjoy the Goofy pool. It is too far down to get into and very crowded. The Mickey pool is also crowded but it was fun to visit with the other parents and get a great tan with doing it!

I agree with this!!! My DH and 2 DD's were in the Goofy pool and we had to get out. Too many kids just jumping in all OVER the place. It was not enjoyable. You couldn't even really move without getting jumped on. The girls and I BOTH LOVED the Mickey Pool. It was great. They had a blast.

Next time, when they're in the club I'll be sure to try out the adult pool...I didn't do that this time.

L.A.R
03-22-2004, 08:44 PM
We just returned from the March 6th Magic. I have a 7yoDD and 5yo DS and 22month old DS. The pool was a HUGE issue for us. We booked this cruise along time ago and that was pre Norwalk Virus time so the rules came along after we were booked. My husband suggested that we pack a few sand toys for the pool ear. I did and that turned out well however it was difficult once we were leaving the pool.( getting the toys out of the others hands.- next time I will write my cabin number on the bottom in with a sharpie.) We only went to the pool twice. The one time 20mo loved the pool ear. The second time, 20 mo DS wanted to splash and there just wasn't enough room to do that. I inquired to the CM life guard and he said my son could walk around the outside and splash, just don't let him sit in the water. My son didn't have a problem with that and didn't even want to sit. Then the Life guards switched and the girl that came on told us that it was a No NO. The toys that I brought were a few shovels and spinny sand thing and a watering can. We also had a plastic water bottle that we were taking on the island. She told us the water bottle needed to come out of the pool also. By that time he was done with the ear, he wanted in the big pool. This was on the last sea day, and time to get ready for dinner so we just packed up and went to our room. As we were packing up getting ice cream, I was watching others. Someone came to the pool with a girl in a swim diaper (maybe 2yo). She went in the big pool and the CM came and told them about the ear. They tried once to keep her in and were not successful. They then proceeded to go over to their chair and then take off the swim diaper and put her back in the pool. They looked at the CM and shrugged their shoulders and went about their business.

talicskai
03-22-2004, 08:45 PM
Oh My Gosh!!!!!!!!! The adult pool was my reward to myself for sitting at the Mickey pool while my husband sat up on Deck 10....You must do this for yourself........it was the best!

crisi
03-22-2004, 09:16 PM
If you do want to enjoy the Goofy pool, it was completely empty first thing in the morning, and nearly empty when we were in port.

Timing is everything with the pools

Kimnicki
03-23-2004, 02:02 PM
crisi, I agree. We really enjoyed the pool on the first day, after dinner and on port days, when they were the least crowded. Otherwise, it can be a real madhouse. My son got jumped on in the Mickey Pool and my DH and DD8 had a few head bumps from the Goofy pool. After dinner we would see the show, change and then head up to the Goofy pool to soak in the hot tubs and then take a dip in the pool.

Kim:sunny:

Gupsmom
03-23-2004, 02:33 PM
The Mickey pool is not Kids only. Many parent's choose to sit on the outside, but you could stay with your child if that makes you feel more comfortable. Personally, I enjoyed crawling around in the Mickey pool with my kids.

I can see how not being able to swim would be hard for those with younger kids...esp the 18 mo - 2 yr old range.

Jess

disneymom3
03-23-2004, 03:18 PM
My DH and I were definitely in the pool with our kids. We have a three year old and two year old so there was no way they were going to be in there without us. I stayed by DD7 while DH followed the two younger ones around.

By the way, my two year old looks very babyish, but is totally potty trained--never had an accident even in the parks. So, be careful of assuming that all toddler types you see are cheating! Some may be innocent!

crisi
03-23-2004, 03:35 PM
I hope you give thanks every day! I had two late trainers and was beginning to suspect we'd be packing pull ups to college.....