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lsteadman
02-18-2004, 11:10 AM
All this week on a local Twin Cities news station one of the reporters, Rusty, has been live from the Disney Wonder. This morning Rusty talk about the controversy on the Disney Wonder.

Apparently, there was a woman saving chairs by the swimming pool early in the morning. Now mind you.....I was watching this at 5:20 a.m. CST. Rusty mention that there was "controversy earlier in the morning regarding the lounge chairs by the pool." As Rusty, got out of the pool he walk-up to a woman asked the woman if she really need to save a chairs this earlier in the morning. The woman said, "Yes!" Then the camera moves around the area and every lounge chair had towels, books, etc. on them to "save" them; however, no one else was in sight but this one woman and Rusty.

The controversy was another person on the ship was pissed because this woman was "saving" chairs and attempted to removed all the towels to show how pissed she was.

Did anyone else from the Twin Cities area see the show this morning? The only thing I could think was how embarrasing for Disney. They should address this issues.

Now, what I don't get is why is it so important to save a chair. My first Disney Cruise is in January 2005 but I want to see if I should add the lounge chairs to my attraction list :D Do the chairs change your car oil when you get back? Does Disney offer special services to people sitting in those chairs? Do the chairs give massages and I don't have to do the reservation rush to the spa when boarding? Does these chairs come with a "hot, young" sexy server?

Please help at first time Disney Cruiser understand why this chairs are so hot :confused: ! I don't want to miss anything on the cruise that is that important :p .

Sound off - let me know why you must save a chair so I can make sure I get mine too! :rolleyes:

Hygiene99
02-18-2004, 11:21 AM
It is not right ... i believe there is a sign telling u that the chairs r not suppose to be saved............

The4OfUs
02-18-2004, 11:23 AM
Where else can you get that interesting zebra pattern on your back and thighs, after sitting on vinyl in your bathing suit for hours? That's not to be missed!

:rolleyes:

Personally, I'd prefer the padded ones on deck 4...

We saw this when we'd go swimming first thing in the morning - like 6-6:30am, there were already towels out there. DESPITE the fact that printed RIGHT ON THE CHAIRS was a message about being courteous in regards to sharing...

Who knows. I didn't even bother trying, there was so much else I'd rather be doing than sitting in one place, but I did notice and comment about it.

muntzfab4
02-18-2004, 11:28 AM
I too have this question which I have asked previously on these boards. The replies have been that getting a chair is not too much of an issue. But if that many people are saving chairs and then not using them, then it is an issue. We are all on vacation and want to enjoy ourselves and having a confrontation over use of a lounge chair is not on my itinerary.

kcashner
02-18-2004, 11:28 AM
DCL does ask that you not save chairs.

The chairs on deck 9 do fill up, especially on sea days. Unfortunately, a lot of the "filling up" is due to people placing objects on chairs when they aren't sitting there.

I don't see anything wrong with leaving something on your chair while you tend to your child in the pool...but blocking 6 chairs for your party, when 5 of them aren't even on the pool deck is a different matter (and it happens all the time).

However, DCL and it's cast members aren't police. They do their best by asking (in signs and in the Navigator) that you not save pool chairs or save seats in the theatre. A cast member will occasionally ask if a chair is available (if it looks free). However, there is really no good way for them to enforce the "no saving" policy. Bottom line, some people are reasonable, and some are just jerks.

Gupsmom
02-18-2004, 11:36 AM
That's nuts. First of all, we were on the Wonder last April (Easter break). We had no probelm getting a chair. Why would someone want to save 6 (or more) chairs anyway?

We are a family of 5 (2 adults and 3 young kids). When we arrive at the pool we find a chair (lounge or regular..doesn't matter) and put all of our stuff on 1 chair. Unfortunately, with little kids, there is a lot of stuff. camera, video camera, 5 pairs of sandles, towels, hats, cover-ups, sun screen, room key, etc. I wouldn't even bother taking a chair (since we don't use it a lot) but we need someplace to put all of this stuff while we are in the pool. Anyway, I try to take as little space as I need. I think it's rude to hog chairs that you won't be using.

Jess

Annae
02-18-2004, 12:03 PM
I have not taken my first cruise yet, however, it is approaching rapidly! I don't know about the chairs on disney cruise, but I do live in a resort town called Ocean City, New Jersey. I take my twin boys to the water park there several times throughout the summer and I always always always save chairs. Not to be rude or anything like that but you need a place to sit down with the kids when you get tired. The chairs are always gone by 10:00 a.m. I don't oversave chairs, just enough for our family to lay in when we need a break from swimming. I see nothing wrong with that and seems like everyone does it. I think if it is a concern for anyone about having a chair to sit on at the pool, get there early and get one!

lampy
02-18-2004, 12:24 PM
Isn't there a sign clearly printed on the chair, "Do Not save chairs". There was last time we were on the Wonder. I know what I would have done - Politely ask if anyone is sitting here, if no take the items off the chair and sit down. Is someone told me they were saving them, then I would say, if they are not here they do not get a chair, sorry.

shelly3girls
02-18-2004, 12:25 PM
Annae
I don't see a problem with saving a chair at a water park because you are there. I do have a problem with people saving chairs early in the morning then coming back later. I think the problem is that these people are not even at the pool. When we were on the Wonder last Jan we could not get even one chair during our at sea day. There were very few adults in the pool yet every chair had something on it. I have a problem when someone reserves a chair then comes back hours later to use the pool!

Jestocost
02-18-2004, 12:27 PM
When we cruised this past Thanksgiving, I don't even remember it being an issue. We'd generally take one (maybe two) chairs for my family of four when we'd set up for a stay at the pool. We rarely actually sat in them (DW did mostly), but used them for a base of operations while we were using the pools for however long we were there.

People can be real jerks, however, and will go to any extent to ensure that they get what they perceive to be "the best" regardless of how that may affect others.

Life is too short for me to waste valuable energy worrying about such things, however.

Grumbo
02-18-2004, 12:33 PM
Geez I'm usually up every morning at 6:00 am anyway...
I like to go for a walk so it might be worth a walk around collecting towels and putting them in the "used towel bin" just to start everyone's morning off nicely. ;)

Cheers,
Grumbo

crisi
02-18-2004, 12:42 PM
While your at it, you might want to make sure any personal items left behind get turned in to lost and found. It would be a shame if someone lost something.

lsteadman
02-18-2004, 12:56 PM
Please note that I was saying I don't understand why the chairs are so important. I definitely will not be spending time on my first Disney cruise "saving" a chair. Most importantly, I won't be there earlier. I get up early every day to go to work. I am sleeping in late on vacation.

I plan on spending my time taking pictures, eating, drinking, having fun, eating, and then I'll probably eat again :tongue: !

Pacha
02-18-2004, 12:56 PM
Grumbo and crisi I think you are on to something there. A little off topic, but when we were at WDW in Oct, a family of 7 tried to reserve a whole bench ( not the center row but the next row over) for themselves. They weren't saving it for anyone else they
"just didn't want to feel crowded". I thought it was funny when they got a talking to from a CM and had to scoot together.


Pacha

Cruisin
02-18-2004, 12:57 PM
Grumbo,

I am sure that the cast members will appreciate your help keeping the ship nice and neat ;)

DisneyForLife
02-18-2004, 01:19 PM
Great idea Grumbo.
I wouldn't mind helping tidying up in the am either. :teeth:

It's just not right to save chairs at that hour to come back 3-4 hours later.

manchurianbrownbear
02-18-2004, 01:41 PM
KSTP breaks another controversial story!

This didn't seem to be a problem on our 3-Day cruise. Since the ship isn't at sea for much of the cruise, I don't think a lot of people spend a lot time at the pools. It may be more of an issue on the 7-Day cruises.

The family pool was pretty busy, but our kids preferred to stay in the clubs rather than swim, so DW and I went to the adult pool a couple times and didn't have a problem finding a chair there.

I don't have a problem with someone leaving their things on a chair while they are in the pool or getting a quick snack, but if you're leaving the pool area, I think you give up rights to the chair.

Annae
02-18-2004, 01:44 PM
I agree with everyone who said that if you are not in the pool area you shouldn't reserve a chair. Why anyone would waste their time to go to the pool just to put something on a chair and leave is beyond me!

cjsmith
02-18-2004, 03:02 PM
If I was ready to be seated at the pool and this women had a whole bunch of chairs reserved for her family, I would respect her wishes for a short amount of time and then if they didn't show up, I would simply find a crew member or nicely ask her to remove her stuff as saving chairs is not allowed. Knowing me, if she didn't, I would just sit down and let her try and move me!! She could run and get a CM, but I'm sure they would be on my side.

CRSNDSNY
02-18-2004, 03:13 PM
What if I were lounging on my chair all morning and then in the afternoon wanted to scoot down to Topsiders/Beach Blanket Buffet, grab some lunch and bring it back to the pool to eat on my lounger. Is this bad?

Grumbo
02-18-2004, 03:27 PM
Personally Melody I don't think it is a problem... You're going to be gone 10 - 15 minutes?
Its individuals that figure because THEY get up early, and put a towel or a couple of personal items on a few chairs they own them for the day.
I stayed at a hotel where the staff came along and took all the stuff off the chairs around 8 O'clock in the morning. Upset a few people but more people were happy so in the long run it worked :)
Cheers,
Grumbo

outahere
02-18-2004, 03:50 PM
The last time we stayed at the Marriott in Marco Island, FL, they had an employee going around the pool area every 30 minutes or so and removing towels from chairs. If someone was sitting nearby, the would ask if the chair had been used in the past half hour or so. If the answer was yes, they left things alone. Maybe DCL should start doing something like that.

Grumbo....... I like your idea. I'll help out by taking things to lost and found while you handle the towels. :)

crisi
02-18-2004, 04:11 PM
There IS a way to handle this (and its a problem at the Disney resorts as well).

Ever see how a policeman tickets a one hour parking space? They chalk the wheel of the car. If the car is still chalked when the policeman comes through again, they get a ticket.

Disney could put a time token on chairs - they could even color code them. At 6:00 am a red plastic token is laid on the "stuff." At 6:30 a blue one is put on the stuff thats appeared in the last hour. At 7:00 anything that still has a red token is removed - personal items moved to lost and found, towels put in the used towel bin, and new stuff gets a yellow token. At 7:30, the red tokens come back out and anything that has a blue token still sitting on it gets removed. If you are using your chair, you just need to get back to it in the hour to remove your token and put it in the token bin.

People truly dedicated to the saving chair effort would still be able to save them - by running up to the pool every hour to remove the token. But I'd guess most people wouldn't bother.

kcashner
02-18-2004, 04:18 PM
The problem isn't the person who leaves their chair for a few minutes to get something to eat or tend to a child. It is the person who puts their junk on a chair (or more likely, DCL's towels on a chair) to "claim" it, and then isn't even on the pool deck.

It's just a few rude people who make everyone's life more difficult....and there are always some. Yes, CMs will be on your side if you choose to get them involved. Personally, if I see an unoccupied chair "wearing" a towel when I have no place to sit, I'll clean it off. If anyone protests, I'd answer that whoever it supposedly "belongs" to isn't using it, and that if they show up, I'll gladly give it up. They can't argue with that! Especially since NO ONE is using it!

CRSNDSNY
02-18-2004, 06:38 PM
Personally Melody I don't think it is a problem... You're going to be gone 10 - 15 minutes?

Yes. Just like to eat relaxing by the pool. I'm quick because I'm always afraid someone will remove my belongings.

makaylee
02-18-2004, 10:16 PM
I agree picking up lunch at topsiders and coming back with it or grabbing some pizza are to be expected and are totaly fine, but there was a lady on my cruise who reserved 5 chairs every morning (3 were for young kids in the pool all day) and when they went to lunch everday she would leave all of their stuff on the chairs for ruffly 2 hours while they ate. I guess she expected them to be waiting for her when she came back because one day when my husband and I needed 2 chairs so we could watch our DD in the pool, I moved stuff off of 2 of "hers". Well I guess she didn't like this because when they came back 2 hours later she gave me evil looks. I just ignored her. She must have known she was in the wrong because she didn't have the nerve to go to a cm or say anything to me, she just kept giving me the look. She didn't ruin my day though. :sunny:

inkkognito
02-18-2004, 10:32 PM
I guess I should be grateful for my albino complexion, as it keeps me from ever lying out in the sun, so I don't have to be in the middle of the controversy! But you can bet if I needed a chair and saw that one had been abandoned for more than half an hour, my butt would be in it and woe to anyone who would dare to say a word. Actually, I wouldn't even respond to them verbally. I would just point to the sign. I mean, what could they really say to that?
Hubby and I use the hot tubs a lot (yes, we are hot tub hogs and proud of it...just call us boiled pork). When there are lots of chairs available (often the case at the adult pool), we leave our stuff on one. When it's starting to get crowded, we put our stuff elsewhere so someone else can use the chair that we would otherwise take up.
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.*****************

Mickey527
02-18-2004, 10:50 PM
Even worse than hogging the pool chairs is what I saw on my cruise.
Hogging the hammocks at Castaway Cay.
I really wanted to lie in a hammock, I saw the videos and couldn't wait to get on the island and grab a hammock and take a nap in the shade.
There were plenty of hammocks, but they all had towels, toys, shoes and stuff in all of them.
I never got to lie in a hammock!!!!!!!!!! Peggie

inkkognito
02-18-2004, 11:08 PM
Peggie,
I recommend that if you cruise again, you watch for people near the hammocks and ask if you can share. When we get a hammock, hubby and I switch off using it, but there are times when we are both in the water. A lady asked me if she could share because she had really been looking forward to relaxing in a hammock and gazing out at the ocean. I said sure...after all, no one can be in a hammock the whole time, so why not share the wealth.
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.*****************

crisi
02-19-2004, 08:55 AM
Haven't been on a cruise yet (2 days before we leave) but I wish Disney resorts (and I imagine the cruise) would install "stuff cubbies." I think a lot of people stick their things on chairs so they aren't sitting on the ground - especially kids things. They aren't really sunbathers and don't intend to sit in the chair, but where else do you put your things?

We put all the families stuff on a single chair. But I know the day we spent at StormAlongBay we didn't sit in the chair to do as much to put our shoes on. I'd have gladly thrown my stuff in a cubbie - but I wasn't going to just drop it in the sand.

DMS_cruisers04
02-19-2004, 09:28 AM
No crisi, unfortunately some people just believe that they have paid $X for their vacation and are entitled to anything and everything that they can lay their hands on. So if they have to get out of bed before sunrise and put a sandal on a chair that they aren't going to use anyway, it's because they paid for that chair. ::yes:: :rolleyes: Some people. :crazy:

Now those hammocks on CC, with the CM waving the palm leaf and feeding you the grapes, that's the way to do it! (you had to see the hammock post)

:laughing:

crisi
02-19-2004, 12:03 PM
Well, yes, some people - but others are just looking for a place to stick their stuff. We don't tend to lounge - we are in the pool with the kids or not near the pool (at least not currently, when they get a little older we will lounge). You wouldn't take care of the "entitled" with cubbies - nothing short of enforcement by Disney will take care of that - but you'd free up those chairs being used by people simply so no one trips over their flip flops.

We ended up at SAB shortly after their was a long DVC pool chair hogging thread, so I was aware that I wasn't going to sit in that chair, that someone else might want to sit in that chair, and that I was going to use it for two and a half hours to keep my cap and the kids swim coverups from getting sandy. But I wasn't being given any choice to do anything else other than "hog" the chair (or dump my stuff in the sand).

nu cruzer
02-19-2004, 02:36 PM
When we were on the 7-day Western last year, we didn't have any problems at all getting a chair. I did see a few families saving several chairs with their water shoes and shirts, but unless there were personal items on a chair, I didn't consider a towel to be saving a chair. I actually thought the towels were put out by the cast members.

ClarabelleCow
02-19-2004, 04:28 PM
other than the pool decks, is it an issue getting chairs? The kids will probably be in the clubs most of the time, they love the group play stuff, so DH and myself will be just vegging out in the sun.

minniemouse1
02-19-2004, 04:44 PM
I think that if one chair was being saved it wouldn't of created such a problem but most people are saving 5 for their family of 5. The 3 kids will probably be in the pool most of the day so it just isn't fair for say me who has a family of 4 and only wants one chair so I can sit and watch my husband and kids swim. Maybe on our next cruise I will be more apt to remove towels for a seat.