eat at your own risk

[BRERALEX]

Did anyone see the Ad for channel 2's special report "Eat at your own risk." a special look inside disneyworld and all the health code violations!!!!!!! WOW sorry didnt catch the time and date its gonna be on, anyone anyone anyone.

[DisneyFans20]

As I Was Watching The Grammys, I felt the same way WOW!!!!!!. The segment is going to be on Monday February 9th at 11pm on CBS. I am in the Northeast, so I don't know what time it will be on everywhere else. Just more bad publicity for Disney. Somebody in the food division dept. better do something real quick, because I hope for their sake, but mostly ours that this won't be as bad as it sounds. Knowing Channel 2 and watching reports like this they have done in the past, I have a very, VERY bad feeling about this segment.

[BRERALEX]

thanks DisneyFans20 for actually paying attention unlike me, too crazy to get online and post that i didnt pay attention.

[Miss Eeyore]

Is this story going to be on a national news show, or is it a local story? I'd be interested in the angle taken, or if it will end up being a bashing.

[Horace Horsecollar]

Originally posted by DisneyFans20
The segment is going to be on Monday February 9th at 11pm on CBS. I am in the Northeast, so I don't know what time it will be on everywhere else.
It will be on a local newscast on WCBS, Channel 2, which is the local CBS-affiliated (and CBS-owned) TV station in New York City. That does not mean it will on shown across the entire CBS televsion network, which is a national TV network.

It should wind up here for anyone who wants to take a look: http://cbsnewyork.com/shamestories/

[OnWithTheShow]

I am sure it is nothing that doesnt happen everywhere else. You wouldnt believe the how many health code violations your favorite restaurant has received over the years.

[Uncleromulus]

Agree. They could do a show like this on their own cafeteria, not to mention virtually every restaurant and restaurant chain in the U.S.
AT one time or other, they ALL had (and will have) problems.

[KNWVIKING]

.... but I don't think it would change my eating habits at WDW. Last year DW and I probably ate 75 meals on-property- all price levels - and never once were disappointed or felt ill.

Several years ago my DW was a manager a local WAWA (similar to a 7-11) and went thru extensive training about the "things" that grow and bred behind the deli counter. The instructor brought up the subject of headaches. How many times have you had an annoying little headache for no apparent reason, couple asprine knock it right out ? Chances are it was a mild case of food poisoning. She came away from the classes swearing she'd never eat another hoggie or store bought potatoe salad. That commitment lasted about a week.

[DisneyKidds]

I'll try and watch tonight. It will be interesting to see what they found and whether they are major items or the kind of health code violations your local health department could probably find in your own kitchen. I'm with Viking, in the almost 13 years and hundreds of meals we've had at WDW we have never had a food related problem or gotten sick.

[doombuggy]

I saw the same add on our local CBS station here in Philly, KYW 3. They are also running the piece tongight on the local 11pm news.

They seemed to se showing people eating hot dogs, hamburgers and french fries. We know this stuff is unhealthy, but I can get the same at any local fast food chain?? I'll probably tape the news, as I go to bed before it comes on.

after 30 years of visiting this place, I never got sick either! :D

[Luv2Roam]

I think if we all knew what really went on with the foods we eat, we all would become thin very soon! ;)
Any restaurant has some horror story behind it.

[crusader]

doombuggy, I saw the same ad run on Eyewitness News and my first thought was:

Who used this scheme to get a free trip to Disney?

[DisneyFan0304]

I'm going to watch tonight out of curiousity. But after all the times I've eaten and WDW and never gotten sick, I'm sure the problems are not any different than any other restaurant anywhere in the country.

Every sweeps month CBS runs these kinds of stories. Last week they did a report on the conditions at the "romantic" restaurants in NYC -- just in time for Valentine's day. They seem to count on these reports for ratings boosts. Every so often they'll throw in reports on the sanitary conditions at area grocery stores, too.

I just want to watch to see the video of WDW. It's been a long time since I was there and I can't wait until December when I'm going!!!!

[doombuggy]

doombuggy, I saw the same ad run on Eyewitness News and my first thought was:

:p :p :p :p :p :p :rotfl: :jumping1:

crusader, you are probably 100% correct there!

i hope my dad doesn't watch tonight, they are going for a long weekend on Thursday. I am sure Boma and Flying Fish are on his list. They are going to US & IOA - maybe CBS needs to do an expose on them too!!!!!!!!!!:p

[VintageKnight]

hey many years of working in fast food joints while going through college, saw many health code violations.....non of which were anything of significants. before believing what the "numbers" say see what the violations were.....

stupidest one was when i worked for sonic drive in....we'd bring our own food in to cook breakfast for the crew on weekends when we were doing prep.....ya know, bacon, eggs, sausage, milk and OJ, and we would buy bulk burritoes as free food for anyone with out money to eat while on break ( hey we had a manager with a soft heart....also kept food theft down..=D, and yes these were from the same vendor our stuff we actually sold to customers came from.....

seems in oklahoma theres a rule on the books about store bought food in the walkins and freezers....we didnt know this...well inspectors came in got us on some very minor cleaning things....the way we were storing towels to go to the washing company and there was a crewers drinking cup to near the chemical closet.... they didnt even blink a second time at this stuff...

but when they went in to check freezer/walk-in temps they saw a zip lock bag of 4 burritoes in the walk in ( thawing so they would cook faster) on the bottom shelf, they through a absolute fit over this...never said anything about the gallon of milk and og and half carton of eggs.....ya know the stuff that was open to air in there,. the zip lock was sealed and still frozen.....

well that went on the perm record when the cleaning issues didnt....makes ya wonder what there actually looking for....

well eat at sonic its a great place....and at least at the one in Newcastle OK, there awsome, Renee may be the tightest manager in the business but she knows how to run a restraunt.... not to bad for a carhop on the job after 6 mo that got manager position by default because the previouse one walked out, shes been there for over 20 years know..=D

awsome woman.

DisneyVK

[jazstar87]

I'm shocked after watching this report! When i first saw the ad, i was thinking, what theme park company paid cbs to make this report. I have ate at all of those restaurants and me nor my family got sick. I do agree with the lady that it is outstanding that disney got only 8 reports of sickness in 2003 because I have seen restaurants around me got more reports than that. I just hope that disney won't get any more bad publicity.

[Chuck S]

Hey, how about some details of the report for those of us whose CBS station runs local news, so we didn't see the report.

[Jon360]

Here is the article:

http://cbsnewyork.com/investigates/local_story_040205229.html

[DisneyKidds]

The only violation that was cited (multiple times - so I assume it was the only kind of violation) was food at various restaurants being "held at dangerous temperatures". Of all health code violations this is the most common I believe, and with all the buffets and such it doesn't surprise me that it was found. Disney should strive for better however.

The report also cited the whopping 8 cases of food related illness complaints isued against Disney in 2003. 8 cases out of how many milions of meals? Doesn't surprise me either. Looks like CBS tried to dig up all 8 people who filed complaints. Don't think they got them all. Perhaps what looked like the most damaging item in the whole report had to do with one of those people who filed a complaint who was subsequently paid money and signed a confidentiality agreement. The report couched it as "being paid not to talk". Didn't look great for Disney IMHO.

In Disney's defense one of their food safety managers pointed out Disney good record considering how many meals they serve a year......but acknowledged that one sick guest is one too many. The Disney rep also pointed out that the Health Department routinely uses Disney as a training ground and model for proper procedure. In response to one of the families that had gotten sick on the same night at the Cape May Cafe the rep pointed out that no other guests got sick that night so it likely wasn't a restaurant wide food problem that night. In most of the instances of complaints there were no findings at the subject restaurants when the Health Department investigated the complaint.

There is no disputing there were violations. 130 in all during 2003. However, the report struck me more as headline grabbing and didn't cause me any concern.

[Uncleromulus]

"Much Ado about Nothing"

[Luv2Roam]

Years ago we knew someone who worked at Long John Silvers. And after their stories, to this day I shudder to think about eating there. I have probably eaten there once in 15 years because of what he said.
I think if we knew all the behind the scenes on ALL our food, we wouldn't ever want to eat.
It is amazing we are not all very ill from what we eat. It shows how resilent our systems are.
It wasn't until we had a setic system in our second home that I found out what the septic companies do with the waste. :earseek: :earseek: :earseek: :earseek: It's a wonder we all survive.

[KNWVIKING]

***"The only violation that was cited (multiple times - so I assume it was the only kind of violation) was food at various restaurants being "held at dangerous temperatures". ***

I got to see the late nite edition. You left out one word DK: "held at POTENTIALLY dangerous temperatures". What a crock that " shocking" report turned out to be. 8 cases of food poisoning in 2003 while serving over 100 million meals.

I think I have a better chance of hearing Baron claim he's jumped into Car 1 then getting sick at WDW.

[caseymaureen]

I worked at the foodcourt at POFQ, and we had to take temperatures of all of our food on the hour, every hour. If the temps were not in the appropriate range we'd usually call out the chef to decide whether it should be thrown away or if it was fixable. Usually it was thrown out. I've worked in a few restaurants and Disney was by far the cleanest.

[Funkyzeit mit Bruno]

If that's all CBS could dig up, I have more confidence than ever in WDW restaurants.

[DisneyFan0304]

They're saving the best for last!! Tonight there's going to be another report on and in the teaser they showed a woman who said she saw a mouse in a WDW restaurant. And no, it wasn't Mickey or Minnie!!!!

Last night's report was a farce. Imagine -- a woman who got sick at a WDW restaurant and was paid a settlement by Disney and signed a confidentiality agreement -- and she wouldn't agree to be interviewed on camera!!! That's what a confidentiality agreement is -- You don't talk about it.

I think so far CBS just seems pretty lame with this story. We'll see what happens tonight.

[Jestocost]

Ah, the thrill of February sweeps is upon us.

[mitros]

Was this report only shown in the NY metro area? It was not on the CBS affiliate here in Florida. :confused:

[kozmo]

I will not even eat off disney properties,and i have been going to WDW for years and years and i encourage people to stay on Disney properties and eat on Disney properties so they dont get food poisoning and ruin their trips.

[Geoff_M]

Perhaps they'd have gotten a better story if they'd come here in serach of all the people that claim that the water at WDW is hazardous to their health! ;)

[DisneyKidds]

Second installment was more of the same "potentially dangerous temps" stuff..............but for the family that claimed they saw a rat at the San Angel Inn. Complaint was filed, Dept of Health investigated. No evidence of rats or droppings. IMO, likely a transient visitor (hey, happens everywhere) rather than rodent infestation problem. The numbers changed a little. Total of 150 violations in 2003 and 17 formal foodborne illness complaints. Still a pretty good record given the volume and ops.

Once again, I am not concerned.

[jmminarik]

Originally posted by Funkyzeit mit Bruno
If that's all CBS could dig up, I have more confidence than ever in WDW restaurants.

Between sweeps and an easy cheap shot against the parent company of one of their "rivals", no one should be surprised this came from CBS. Now, if ABC had reported it, that would be news!

-Joe

[jcodespoti]

CBS report=blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[DisneyFan0304]

I agree -- more of a whole lot of nothing.

However, I did find it interesting that the rat was seen at San Angel, since the only place I ever saw a mouse, rat or anything unsavory was on the boat ride in Mexico. We saw one running along the side of the tunnel while we were sitting in the boat waiting to pull up to get out.

CBS says they posted a list on their website of the WDW restaurants that had no violations, but I have gone to check it out yet.

[doombuggy]

CBS news story on WDW (http://kyw.com/special/local_story_041203647.html)

Our local station here in Philly ran the same 2 part story investigated by CBS channel 2 in NYC. This link is to their site, and lists the report. It also lists all of the resturants/eateries that did not have any violations.

I wanted to post the link, in case anyone was concerned and wanted to eat at a place that experienced no violations last year. :D

[Lewisc]

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
[BYou left out one word DK: "held at POTENTIALLY dangerous temperatures". What a crock that " shocking" report turned out to be. 8 cases of food poisoning in 2003 while serving over 100 million meals.

I . [/B]

NO THE REPORT JUST SAID "dangerous temperature". Potentially was not said. You can go the the cbsnewyork website if you want to read the storey. The fact is not properly refrigerating food is dangerous and has the potential of causing sickness.

I do agree most of the story wasn't that significant. BTW the number of peopel being sick is not really relevant. Numerous people could have gotten a mild case of food poisining and blamed on a the flue, allergy, the water etc.

[jcodespoti]

NO THE REPORT JUST SAID "dangerous temperature". Potentially was not said. You can go the the cbsnewyork website if you want to read the storey. The fact is not properly refrigerating food is dangerous and has the potential of causing sickness.

On the News they said potential, I watched the report. What their website says might be something else.

[Lewisc]

Originally posted by jcodespoti
On the News they said potential, I watched the report. What their website says might be something else.

The video is on the web-site. Potential is said once, the rest of the time they only refer dangerous temperatures.

[msdis]

Who's to say the food left at that temp would not have easily been used up in a short period of time. Was it 5 minutes or 2 hours? It makes a big difference!!!!! I have always felt the best place in the world that made me feel the safest is WDW. Everyone knows that the biggest, get the most goings over and are held to higher standards. Yes, I too have heard HORROR:earseek: :earseek: :earseek: stories from people I know who have worked with food. How they do what they do at WDW makes my head spin. That food moves so fast I can't believe it sit long enough to get the thermometer in it. And the "rat", well wild animals will be wild animals. They have snakes on the lose there too, why is that wild animal any different??? When the pied piper shows up I'll get concerned. If anything this show will just improve what was already good.

[Jennasis]

You're joking...I know Kristin Cole (the reporter who did the story). I have worked with her on stories before (as her photographer/editor). She is the QUEEN of sensationalism....a blast to hang out with, mind you. But she used to be nicknamed "the viper" amongst us photogs for her ability to blow a story out of proportion. She was the "kiss of death" for any individual she did story on.

Anywho...sounds like she got handed a blah assignment and made the most of it.

[mikeymars]

I live in New York, and the so-called "news division" of the CBS affiliate there is generally seen as the weakest and lowest quality of the big three networks, so this crap comes as no surprise. What the bimbo reporter there produced is nothing more than a classic example of simplistic, inflammatory yellow journalism. Enjoy laughing at her below:


http://cbsnewyork.com/siteSearch/local_story_040205229.html

http://cbsnewyork.com/siteSearch/local_story_041191008.html

[Uncleromulus]

Jennasis:
I'm not sure she made the "most" out of it at all. For her superiors maybe, but as you can see from this thread (and another over on Restaurant board) what she really did was make a fool out of herself and the network station.
I'm sure they now realize this story did not have the effect they intended---whatever that was.

[snyderla]

I'm sure many people get sick and don't report it. I take meds that make me more susceptible to food borne illness, weaken my immune system. I have been sick three times from WDW restaurants. Once within 20 minutes or so of eating a chicken sandwich at SciFi and once shortly after eating meatloaf and Key Lime pie with meringue at Wolfgang's and the third time after eating Chicken at Fulton's. I certainly saw no reason to report it. Other family members ate the same thing at Wolfgang's and did not get sick. So I figured it was safe for most. No need to tell them I got sick! Right?

Anyway, 3 times out of the many meals I've eaten there isn't that bad.

Lori

[doombuggy]

I have noticed that they are running similar reports on other eateries. i think they did one involving Atlantic City eateries and this week, they are doing a similar report on something else. I should have paid more attention, but i always fast forward on the commercials when watching a tape.

i frankly paid it no nevermind. write it off as filler for the newscast......I don't watch that local news anyway, since they moved "Guiding Light" to a lousy time slot!:mad: