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nuthut
01-06-2001, 06:51 PM
I dropped my four teenagers off at Islands of Adventure on December 27. They were to stay and play all day. Four hours later a call to our condo and they want to be picked up! They report the experiece was poor and never want to go back. The staff members were rude and the place was dirty. My daughter says "take me to Disney"

tvaughn
01-06-2001, 07:24 PM
Nuthut,
Sorry to hear the kids didn't like it. I'm very surprised and curious.
I read some of your posting history, and one might conclude that is slowing down on the DVC rent/trade board due to the opening of IOA and HRH.
Good Luck!

Molokai Gram
01-06-2001, 08:05 PM
Aloha,

I am sorry and surprised by your children's reaction. I would have thought most young adults would prefer IOA. But then that would have been my choice if I was a teen (haven't been that for a lonnnng time ;) ).

Why did they think it was dirty? As a newer park, I find it less run down than the older parks and never did I notice it dirty or unkempt.

But you know, everyone has their own taste and that is a good thing. Otherwise it would be too crowded at IOA and then I would be unhappy. :)

JessicaR
01-06-2001, 08:10 PM
WOW! Very surprised to hear that! Especially from teens. :eek: We were just there in December and IOA was spotless! The employee's were wonderful, helpful and polite. I agree with Molokai...more room for us!!!!!!!!!! :D

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Lalalindica
01-06-2001, 09:04 PM
I have to agree with JessicaR. I was there recently with my two pre-teenagers and they (and I) loved it! That was our second visit there and we will be going back in March! It was spotless and the people working there couldn't be kinder or more helpful. :)

WestCoastMickey
01-07-2001, 01:13 AM
It's a "Hose Job"...NutHut is a Disney FREAK...check her profile. FAKE!!!

fboy9286
01-07-2001, 08:25 AM
i'm 14 i love IOA. Best theme park out there (that is why i am here) did you teens really hate rides? i Really can't believe that it was dirty. what rides did they go on. make sure you have them put up a trip report. i am really sorry. :)

Kennedy
01-07-2001, 07:02 PM
Our family had the exact opposite reaction. We loved both parks IOA and USO, but we found our hotel (Dixie Landings) very dirty. We will never stay at a Disney hotel again, always at Portofino and our kids thought all Disney Parks were boring. Just goes to show different strokes,,,,,

darla
01-07-2001, 08:40 PM
Disney hotels dirty. Pleaseeee!!!!! I have stayed at portifino,dixie landings, and The fort wilderness lodge and my favorite by far was the the fort wilderness lodge(architecture was amazing)(just my opinion). So keep your Portofino. Dixie landings is also a very nice moderate(exceptionally clean) hotel to stay at. Don't get me wrong Portifino is very nice and extravagant but lets not try and overthrow other peoples feelings and opinions with biased remarks like dixie landings is dirty. From what I've seen disney nor universal know the meaning of dirty. why can't universal and disney get along it's a perfect match. One last thing Disney parks boring granted epcot can be a little much for the kids. I think the worst park in florida by far is universal(with an exception to MIB and TERMINATOR).That place is capital BORING. IOA on the other hand IS AMAZING and EXCITING but no better than disney just different. :D

[This message was edited by darla on 01-07-01 at 11:48 PM.]

jonathansullivan
01-07-2001, 09:25 PM
Just one question...Are these teen normal?

What about there experience was bad?

How about the rest of the story?

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taff
01-08-2001, 07:31 AM
jonathonsullivan,
You asked,"What about the rest of the story?"
I don't believe nuthut has one. Look at his previous postings and you will see he (nuthut) owns points in the Disney Vacation Club. He has many points for rent in March and April. He sells them online ( was even chastised by the Mod. of the board). He is just a salesman, having a time pushing some points due to the opening of HRH.
Darla,
You are right everyone has a right to their opinion. And since you asked?
1998 WDW contemp. 1 at OMNI
4 days Disney, 1 USF
1999 Marriot (the big one with all the flags)
2 days Disney, 2 days USO
2001 HRH
1 day Disney, 5 days USO
See the pattern?
You said you stayed at Portifino? I looked through your postings and no mention. Why did you use Single LIne and not FOTL if you were staying onsite?
As to the cleanliness of Disney hotels, the Contemp. was nice, just a moderate with a Deluxe price. We decided it was not worth it to stay onsite unless we stayed at Grand Floridian.

For our family it boils down to this, My kids aren't crazy for Mickey. They don't get it. They love Dr. Suess, Scooby and Marvel Comics. Mom and Dad love the adult diversions. USO is just a better park for OUR WHOLE FAMILY yet, we enjoy getting over to Disney for a day!

Read previous posts before considering an opinion honest. Consider the motivation.

I WILL see SCOOBY in March!!! hehehe
Valarie

darla
01-08-2001, 09:04 AM
First of all Mr TAFF. I loved portifino and I love USF so please don't jump down my throat. All Im saying is no one does disney like disney does it and no one does universal like universal does it. You really can't even compare the two companies. Sure they both have movie parks but they are completely different.

2nd thing I don't do a post for every disney or universal thing I do. I just primarily write posts about rumors if you paid attention to my posts you would have noticed that. When I went to Florida this summer I was there for about 9 days so i did ultimately decide to stay at portifino. Ok inspector gadget.

3rd I highly recommend you try the fort wilderness lodge sometime.(still my personal favorite).

4th this goes out to everyone else out there are there any new rides going to universal or IOA this summer. :D

[This message was edited by darla on 01-08-01 at 12:15 PM.]

degenerationxwwfwdw1
01-08-2001, 09:06 AM
darla you couldnt have said it better. I have NEVER seen anything dirty at WDW OR UO. Especially Dixie Landings. I also agree about USF Theme Park. And the basketball team at my High School (Boys team, Girls team, and cheerleaders) all went to WDW and IOA and their favorite attraction BY FAR was the Rock N Roller Coaster. Their favorite park was MGM and IOA was 2nd. So I guess alot of teens are different. I personally like Magic Kingdom, IOA, and MGM the best because they all offer different things that are excellent. And I have never seen any rude employees at the Universal parks. Alot of them dont smile or talk to you but they arent exactly rude to you. Maybe of them were having a bad day!

"Why would you waste your time with USF when you could go to WDW or IOA!"

JessicaR
01-08-2001, 09:09 AM
darla,

Sounds like you should follow your own advice.Basically we all have our opinions and since an opinion is just that, it cant be debated.
You are entitled to feeling Universal is boring as others are entitled to saying a hotel was dirty if that was their experience.

"Don't get me wrong Portifino is very nice and extravagant but lets not try and overthrow other peoples feelings and opinions with biased remarks "

"I think the worst park in florida by far is universal(with an exception to MIB and TERMINATOR).That place is capital BORING"

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darla
01-08-2001, 09:23 AM
this is too the last post. First of all everything can be debated. Philosophy in one sence or another is the essence of life. 2nd of all my response toward universal was in defense of a ludicrous statement being made. So thank you for spending your time to analyze my little worthy paragraph.

chrisn
01-08-2001, 09:37 AM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I also agree that the nagative comments made about IOA are completely without merit. We are a family of four with two kids ages 3 and 12 and IOA is our fave park. We found it spotless and anjoyed every moment there. I think as far as "theming" goes nobody can compete. The CM's were helpful, the food comparible and the rides awesome. I also like Disney and Universal but IOA remains our #1. Teens not liking IOA? That is definitely "strange"

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Eeyorestail
01-08-2001, 10:52 AM
WOW!! This always seems to happen when we get into the Great Universal vs. Disney Debate. Things tend to get a little bit snippy.
Listen, I'm a Cast Member, and a HUGE Disney fan, but I also recognize that Universal has one heck of a product out there, too.
Opinions as to which is better, or which may be lacking are just those, opinions. And ALL opinions are valid and welcome on this site.

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JessicaR
01-08-2001, 12:17 PM
I feel my original intent was ignored. My intent was to show a contradiction in terms. In one statement you ask that we dont overthrow other peoples feelings and opinions. The next statement you did exactly that. As far as bringing philosophy into this, no thanks! I stand firm on my belief that an opinion cant be debated.If I believe in something that you don't, you will label my opinion as wrong? You believe the worst park in Orlando is Universal, and I do not. In most areas of the free world, we call that your choice, your opinion. It doesn't make either person right or wrong. Nor does it entitle you to a debate to change my opinion. Matter of fact, opinions are what make us different. In my opinion, thats a very good thing. You say you made the statement about Universal in defense of a ludicrous statement being made. Who deemed it ludicrous? You did and that is also your opinion.Apparently the poster felt it to be true and that is their opinion. I totally respect your opinions. That does not mean they match my own.
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WillyJ
01-09-2001, 01:55 AM
It is quite apparent you all are hopeless simpletons. . . Gatorland USA is obviously the superior park in the nation. . . ;) . . . :D

Now quite snipping at one another, or I will come over and start posting all the time. . . and you can ask Barry or Robin or anyone on the CB; it would not be a pleasant experience. . . :D

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I want to know if love is wild girl, I want to know if love is real. . ."

JessicaR
01-09-2001, 06:44 AM
WillyJ...If I buy one day can I get the second day free? Gatorland USA sounds like my new favorite park! ;) Okay I will be good...

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darla
01-09-2001, 09:49 AM
Jessica The only thing I can say to you is just hopelessness because everything can and will be debated and that is what makes the world go around...... I admit my universal comment was a bit over the top and I shouldn't have generalized like that so I was wrong and I want to apologize to everyone here. Weather you realize it or not all we ever do is debate our own opinions, just like we have done for the past couple of days. thank you for your time and hope there is no harsh feelings. :D

Robinrs
01-09-2001, 12:45 PM
:eek: Wow! :eek:

I go away for a week and I come back and WillyJ has invaded our world! HELP!

Well, folks, being the complete oxyMORON, a moderator of both sides of the spectrum, I really despise comparisons. I consider the two entities like having two children, I will not compare them and even if I like certain qualities of one against another I love them BOTH.

The opinion thing is an obvious one, you should have seen the fluctuation of "opinions" on the Community Board during the November election :rolleyes: . No one is right and no one is wrong, they are just expressing what they FEEL based on their demographics, experiences and preference. In this and that instance, I think everyone should agree to disagree.

IF the original poster had motives other than stating his "opinion" I have no idea but we have one job here, and that is to respect each other and "be friendly."

And that means everybody, including me, who has swallowed more venom than anyone in the last few months...

Thanks for your expertise, as usual, JR, and darla, it takes a big person to post like you did.

God bless...

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iamleia2
01-10-2001, 04:52 AM
Hmmm.... I agree with lots of things said here! I liked IOA a lot when we went this summer. I thought they did a very good job themeing. I didn't think it was dirty and I LOVED the coasters. But the employees, especially at our character lunch, were extremely rude. Other than that our experience was pleasant. Now, if you were talking about universal being dirty, I would agree. The streets were horrible when we went and there was this weird smell throughout the park... I was not impressed with that. I am also a HUGE Disney fan, but I really did enjoy both parks, regardless of the rude employees and dirty streets. ;) And I would think that teens would love it because there are some fabulous rides (oh, I am a teen by the way. 18 actually). But interesting opinion anyway!

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SimonV
01-10-2001, 06:56 PM
Just to beat this one to death ( :D ), as someone who spends part of their job reporting on Disney and Universal, I am firmly of the opinion it is the old Apples and Oranges debate. Both have their plus points and both occasionally have negatives. Some people enjoy one more, some the other. After around 40 visits to both, I would STILL have trouble deciding which is my favourite, but as long as people go to both and have fun, its a meaningless debate to me.

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TIGGERSMOM
01-11-2001, 01:19 AM
Willy - I didn't know Gatorland USA sold Bass Ale!!

That could be the only thing that makes it the best.
Can you drink Bass and then wrestle the alligators?

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