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gravymom
01-12-2004, 08:58 AM
We just got back from our second time in a studio (using rented points.) The first time was at BWV and both the bed and the sleeper sofa were fairly uncomfortable.

This last trip was at WLV and the bed was much more comfortable. But, the sleeper sofa was so bad we had to go out and buy an air mattress. Even the egg crates did not help.

Why are these things so bad? It is seriously affecting our decision to purchase DVC...

zurgswife
01-12-2004, 09:03 AM
We always throw the kids on the sleeper sofa so, I've never slept a night on the DVC ones...but I've slept on a few sleeper sofas...even tried out a few before purchasing one for my house last month.....the thickness of the matress on DVC sleeper sofas is in the upper range.....and I can't imagine them buying the top of the line sleeper....

Sorry that this would effect your decision to purchase...DVC is a great way to vacation.

Disney1fan2002
01-12-2004, 09:04 AM
I don't think I have ever slept comfortably on a sleep sofa. That's what kids are for! LOL

I don't think there is much Disney can do, sleep sofa as a rule are uncomfortable if only for the fact your sleeping in a 4" thick mattress.

They have studios with a sleep sofa? I thought the studios came with 2 beds?

Chuck S
01-12-2004, 09:21 AM
They have studios with a sleep sofa? I thought the studios came with 2 beds?

Only OKW studios have 2 Queen beds...other studios have a bed and sleeper sofa.

We usually have one trip per year in an OKW studio and 1 trip in a 1 Bdrm. I get the sleeper in the 1 Bdrm. Some are more comfortable than others...maybe from different usage? But the sleeper we had last month was comfortable, and it was not in a newly rehabbed bldg, in fact it was scheduled to undergo rehab shortly after we left.

gopherit
01-12-2004, 09:25 AM
Consider a resale at OKW. Two beds in the studio.

Anything that folds away to serve a dual purpose can only do the job half-way... it just isn't meant for the same comfort as a "dedicated' bed.

Like so many others, we either avoid the sleepers (get a 2br) or put the kids on them. After all, my kids think sleeping on the rock hard ground outside in a sleeping bag and tent is to die for... as for me, the only part they got right is the "die" part, because it just about "killed" my back!

Some folks prefer the air matresses or aerobeds to ever unfolding the sleeper. I confess, we are debating using an air bed for our boys next trip to avoid using the sleeper in the living room of the 2br villa. HOWEVER -- I would have to get TWO aerobeds, because I am having visions of son #1 going airborne off the aerobed nightly as Son #2 flops all over the place. THose aerobeds are not meant for more than one passenger, in my opinion! It's like sleeping on a moon bounce or trampoline!

jimh13432
01-12-2004, 09:39 AM
I think you should stay away from purchasing DVC then. Never heard of that as a determining factor before now but to each his own.

floridafam
01-12-2004, 10:26 AM
I agree that they can be uncomfortable. There are comfortable sleeper sofas out there. The Hampton Inn in Panama City Beach has the BEST ones. I think the mattress was about 6 inches thick.

You may be able to request a dedicated studio at some of the DVC resorts that would give you 2 double beds instead.

You do have to make the decision that is right for you.

InstImpres
01-12-2004, 10:36 AM
Either I was real tired or got real lucky at OKW last year. My SIL and I shared the sleepsofa and gave the kids the master for 5 nights. Logistically, it was better for us to use the washer after they went to bed and to enjoy a glass of wine and snacks.

I guess I'll see how lucky I am when we do the same at BWV in a few weeks.
Sandy

betslinc
01-12-2004, 11:00 AM
Sometimes the problem isn't the sleeper mattres, but the lack of support under the mattress. We've had good luck just putting the mattress directly on the floor.

betslinc
01-12-2004, 11:01 AM
PS We think of it as camping!

Sammie
01-12-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by **********
Either I was real tired or got real lucky at OKW last year. My SIL and I shared the sleepsofa and gave the kids the master for 5 nights. Logistically, it was better for us to use the washer after they went to bed and to enjoy a glass of wine and snacks.

I guess I'll see how lucky I am when we do the same at BWV in a few weeks.
Sandy

Here is your answer. The bed sleeps better after wine and snacks :)

As stated I have never slept on a comfortable one. My father always said it was so guests would never be tempted to stay with you any longer than necessary. :)

Nick@ VB+OKW
01-12-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Sammie
Here is your answer. The bed sleeps better after wine.....

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lenshanem
01-13-2004, 07:04 AM
I've heard of people calling up egg crates for the sofa to help. Housekeeping will bring them up.
Anyone have more info on this?

We have used an aerobed before. We have a twin, worked nicely in the entry and was quite comfotable I hear.

I've slept on the sofa sleeper, I found it OK. personally, I'm always so tired by the end of the night wheil at WDW anything wodul feel nice to me. :p

gravymom
01-13-2004, 04:07 PM
Shan,

We did have housekeeping bring up egg crates. They did not have a full/queen one so they brought up two twin ones. It did not help at all.





I think you should stay away from purchasing DVC then. Never heard of that as a determining factor before now but to each his own.

Funny, but one's comfort during a stay should be a very important factor in determining whether or not to purchase. The kids won't sleep in an unfamiliar bed by themselves so I am stuck sleeping on the sleeper sofa on trips. It was miserable, even though I was very tired. Oh well.

zurgswife
01-13-2004, 06:11 PM
The kids won't sleep in an unfamiliar bed by themselves

Sounds like your kids are really young ...I'd just put them on the floor in the Master bedroom and sleep in the king size bed myself rather then go through the torture of sleeping on the sofa....

My kids have always enjoyed "camping IN"......

floridafam
01-13-2004, 06:26 PM
gravymom,

I understand what you mean about the sleeper sofa factoring into your decision to buy. It was also a factor we considered when researching DVC. I don't really like sleeper sofas and I like the 2 beds in 1 room set up that you find in a standard hotel room-most of the time.

I think this is why we like VB so much.

I slept on the sleeper on our last trip to VWL and it was nice. DH needed the king bed to himself because he had to get up very early.

There are ways around the sleeper sofa. As I mentioned before, you can try and reserve a studio with 2 beds instead.

CRSNDSNY
01-13-2004, 06:45 PM
I stayed at BWV last month and slept on the sleeper sofa. I thought it was very comfy!

KMWieland
01-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Currently Disney is considering the new Logic Sleeper Sofa for the new Animal Kingdom VC. Search on Logic Hospitality Furniture for a picture of how it works. These things are really new.

These are currently installed at the Boardwalk Inn (not the villas) and are now being installed at the Beach Club Villas. These are currently installed in 200 family suites at AllStar Music. There are a few of these in the suites at Contemporary and approximately 25 installed in the Wilderness Lodge Family Suites.

These are incredible sofas! It addresses everything that was ever wrong about sleeper sofas - comfortable, easy to use, no piles of cushions in the corner when the thing is open, etc.

littlestar
01-16-2007, 07:02 PM
The new sleep sofa in the OKW 1 bedroom that we got on our last trip there was pretty comfy. I think they were new.

The worst ones I've ever slept on were at BWV. On my gosh, my head was lower than my feet and the bar in the back was a killer. I heard they are getting new sleep sofas. They sure need them is all I can say. I used the couch cushions to prop my head up so the blood would flow back down through the rest of my body. :upsidedow

LisaS
01-16-2007, 07:16 PM
You may be able to request a dedicated studio at some of the DVC resorts that would give you 2 double beds instead.All of the studios at OKW have two queen beds. The studios at the other resorts have one queen bed and a full-size sleeper sofa. I don't think there are any dedicated studios with two double beds.

jekjones1558
01-16-2007, 07:43 PM
These are currently installed at the Boardwalk Inn (not the villas) and are now being installed at the Beach Club Villas.

Actually, these beds ARE in the BWV now! SO much better!
Here is the link (with a cool demo of how the new sofabeds work):
http://www.logichospitality.com/

Sammie
01-16-2007, 08:32 PM
Actually, these beds ARE in the BWV now! SO much better!
Here is the link (with a cool demo of how the new sofabeds work):
http://www.logichospitality.com/

Yep that is right. :thumbsup2 All sofa sleepers at Disney including DVC that are being replaced will be replaced with this type. BW is getting them now, as is Beach Club. I would think OKW and VWL will be next.

I doubt SSR will get them until they need to replace the exisiting ones. Which are very comfy but harder to operate.

keys2kingdom
01-16-2007, 08:39 PM
Actually, these beds ARE in the BWV now! SO much better!
Here is the link (with a cool demo of how the new sofabeds work):
http://www.logichospitality.com/

Thanks for the link Jean. Looks idiot proof, luckily for me.

lisareniff
01-16-2007, 09:31 PM
I got confused for a second. Seeing zurgswife, nick and gopherit made me wonder what was going on. Then I realized we went back to 2004!

Deb & Bill
01-16-2007, 09:37 PM
So you can't remove the cushions anymore to put on the floor for a littler one to sleep on with these beds. They look just like the older ones mattress-wise. The memory foam types at SSR were more comfortable.

(By the way, someone must be really bored to keep resurrecting these ancient posts.)
(By the way, by the way, did gravymom ever buy DVC??? Bet not.)

Sammie
01-16-2007, 09:39 PM
I got confused for a second. Seeing zurgswife, nick and gopherit made me wonder what was going on. Then I realized we went back to 2004!

Back to the future has been on TV alot lately, maybe that is it, but that is a Universal Ride isn't it. Maybe the cold weather then. :rotfl:

Sammie
01-16-2007, 09:40 PM
So you can't remove the cushions anymore to put on the floor for a littler one to sleep on with these beds. They look just like the older ones mattress-wise. The memory foam types at SSR were more comfortable.

(By the way, someone must be really bored to keep resurrecting these ancient posts.)

And with the back of the couch folding over, you have no headrest, or anything except the wall. It seemed to me the cushions would get dirtier always resting on the floor. :confused3

kathleena
01-16-2007, 09:47 PM
We just got back from our second time in a studio (using rented points.) The first time was at BWV and both the bed and the sleeper sofa were fairly uncomfortable.

This last trip was at WLV and the bed was much more comfortable. But, the sleeper sofa was so bad we had to go out and buy an air mattress. Even the egg crates did not help.

Why are these things so bad? It is seriously affecting our decision to purchase DVC...

I just stayed at BWV in Dec (SV studio) and the bed and sofa were both new. The bed was very comfy, with a pillowtop mattress. The sofa was the new style and I slept on it most of the week because I had a cold and was coughing. It was great!

Maybe you had a room that wasn't updated yet.

kathleena
01-16-2007, 09:50 PM
And with the back of the couch folding over, you have no headrest, or anything except the wall. It seemed to me the cushions would get dirtier always resting on the floor. :confused3

The don't rest on the floor, they are above it. Plus they are folded inward, so it is the back side of the sofa that is facing the floor.

Deb & Bill
01-16-2007, 09:51 PM
...Maybe you had a room that wasn't updated yet.

She probably didn't because she posted about two years ago.

kathleena
01-16-2007, 09:51 PM
I got confused for a second. Seeing zurgswife, nick and gopherit made me wonder what was going on. Then I realized we went back to 2004!


LOL - I didn't notice until I read your post! ROFL!

dianeschlicht
01-16-2007, 10:29 PM
Shan,

We did have housekeeping bring up egg crates. They did not have a full/queen one so they brought up two twin ones. It did not help at all.







Funny, but one's comfort during a stay should be a very important factor in determining whether or not to purchase. The kids won't sleep in an unfamiliar bed by themselves so I am stuck sleeping on the sleeper sofa on trips. It was miserable, even though I was very tired. Oh well.

The obvious answer to this is to either stay at OKW where the studios have 2 queens, or get a 2 bedroom that will have 2-3 real beds.

SueM in MN
01-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Yep that is right. :thumbsup2 All sofa sleepers at Disney including DVC that are being replaced will be replaced with this type. BW is getting them now, as is Beach Club. I would think OKW and VWL will be next.

I doubt SSR will get them until they need to replace the exisiting ones. Which are very comfy but harder to operate.
The last 2 units we stayed at for OKW (March 2006 and sometime in late 2005) had new sofa beds.
The OKW ones were the same as the sofa beds at SSR (we stayed at SSR in Oct 2006 and Dec 29, 2006 to Jan 3, 2007).
Those sofa beds were very comfortable, with a solid surface under the mattress and no bar across the middle. We didn't find them hard to operate, but the back cushions didn't stay close to the back of the sofa while it was being used as a sofa. I could see the resorts might not like that because it doesn't look as nice.

I'm curious how comfortable the Logic Hospitality sofa beds are. They look like they still have that noisy spring base with the bar across the middle.

BCV23
01-17-2007, 08:35 AM
I agree with you, sue. We had the new sleeper design at OKW in Oct. '05 and although I didn't try it out it certainly looked far more comfortable than the old design or the Logic Hospitality ones. That bar looks uncomfortable.

keishashadow
01-17-2007, 08:55 AM
In oct @ BCV we had a room that still had the old version.

Although DSs complain, DH has slept on them & said they were fine:confused3 .

He's tall, so he did have to angle but, it beat listening to youngest DS whine to sleep in the "real" bed lol

anyone else remember being thrilled to go anywhere when you were young, even sleeping on the floor? Now we've got kids who talk heavenly beds...absurd.

Sammie
01-17-2007, 05:17 PM
The last 2 units we stayed at for OKW (March 2006 and sometime in late 2005) had new sofa beds.
The OKW ones were the same as the sofa beds at SSR (we stayed at SSR in Oct 2006 and Dec 29, 2006 to Jan 3, 2007).
Those sofa beds were very comfortable, with a solid surface under the mattress and no bar across the middle. We didn't find them hard to operate, but the back cushions didn't stay close to the back of the sofa while it was being used as a sofa. I could see the resorts might not like that because it doesn't look as nice.

I'm curious how comfortable the Logic Hospitality sofa beds are. They look like they still have that noisy spring base with the bar across the middle.

I agree Sue, I found the memory foam ones at SSR to be really nice. I have heard from staff there that they have received complaints about the difficulty in opening the bed, I did not have problems with it either. And also complaints about the back cushions as you mentioned and the seat cushions as well, that the couch was not comfortable to sit on.

I guess it is very hard to find one that sleeps good and is good to sit on too.

Sammie
01-17-2007, 05:19 PM
The don't rest on the floor, they are above it. Plus they are folded inward, so it is the back side of the sofa that is facing the floor.

Thanks I see that now. I agree that the mattress does not look like any improvement over the old ones. I really like the memory foam ones.

BillPA
01-17-2007, 07:12 PM
They must have given you one of the renter room, we have always had nice bedding. :rotfl: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl:

missymagic
01-18-2007, 12:24 PM
Everyone has different experiences. Stayed at BWV one bedroom sofa was soooo comfortable..stayed at BWV again in a studio the sofa wwas HORRIBLE...stayed at SSR one bedroom sofa was comfy again!!!

BlakeNJ
01-18-2007, 06:23 PM
I will be staying at OKW next month. I have volunteered to take the sleeper sofa since DSis was in a car accident and since has terrible back problems. What building should I request that might have a new mattress -- and of course a good location!

Thanks.

mikron
01-18-2007, 07:30 PM
OKW sleeper not bad at all, big and nice matteres. Wife and I always use the king beds, best sleep of any place I ever stayed. Kids and friends sleep on sleeper and have never complained. I don't like the sofa at SSR just to sit on, cushions sink in to the sleeper mattress. Bad desigh not bad condition.

nzdisneymom
01-18-2007, 08:37 PM
We've only stayed in studios (SSR, OKW and VWL) and I get the dbl-sized sleeper with DS#1 while DH and DS#2 get the queen bed... which is why I like staying at OKW where I at least get a queen-sized bed even though I still sleep with DS#1.

We're trying a 1-BR in March and plan to take an aerobed because DH and I are going to sleep on the king and the boys will have the living area -- and since they cannot sleep together on a bed (believe me, no one sleeps if they have to sleep together - it gets really really ugly), we'll put one on the sleeper and one on the aerobed. We have a queen aerobed right now but are thinking of getting a single. We think there would be room to open the sleeper and put down the queen aerobed in a 1-BR (and then just prop it up against a wall during the day).