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06-11-2001, 09:45 AM
I just read an article about injuries that have taken place on rides at Disneyland. I wanted to pass on the information. Here is the link:

Disney Says Will Hand Over Brain Hemorrhage Records http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010610/re/industry_disney_rides_dc_1.html

Does nayone have information about injuries at Disneyland or WDW?


06-11-2001, 09:58 AM
Nice....by defying the court, it just makes Disney look like they're hiding something....

06-11-2001, 10:48 AM
This has always been a Disney policy (official or unofficial). Disney has always down-played *anything* bad that occurs in connection with the company. The computer glitch may or may not have been real, but it is a plausible excuse.


06-11-2001, 11:07 AM
Ok, how did Disney cause the hemorrhage? There are warning signs about not riding if suffering from 'certain' conditions. Even if the person did not know of anything to warrant not riding, then how would Disney know either.

Someone at risk to neck or brain injurys could suffer the samething while riding a car and it comes to a sudden stop (or an accident occurs) that causes head to snap back and forth (like on a coaster). So I guess the auto manufacturer is libel.

06-11-2001, 03:33 PM
it reminds me of McDonald's an coffee..

06-11-2001, 03:36 PM
This has always been a Disney policy (official or unofficial).

I'm sorry Sara....

I was un-aware that defying a court order and getting fined for it was a "company policy".

06-11-2001, 04:00 PM
From a legal perspective, courts rarely will issue sanctions (because they are discretionary) if a plausible or excusable basis exists for the mistake

The judge ordered Disney to turn over the paperwork. It didn't. Disney got sanctioned.

How does that reflect on the Disney company? Would you like to be the lawyer defending them?

Even if this turns out to be a frivolous suit, it doesn't earn you any points with the judge and possibly the jury (if one is hearing the case at this point).

Another Voice
06-11-2001, 05:04 PM
Irregardless of the lawsuit’s merits, it’s just one more public relations hit that Disneyland has taken recently. The court order, massive layoffs, the trees falling down, company spokesman screaming obscenities on camera, the ‘Rodger Rabbit Ride’ injury and lawsuits, the California Adventure disaster, labor problems, etc. etc. etc. The combined weight of the small issues has started to really hurt Disney’s reputation. The company that seemed to do everything right now seems to be unable to do even the smallest thing correctly.

06-15-2001, 10:48 PM
Here's the official word from Disney regarding their perceived defiance of the court's order.

Walt Disney Co. blames a computer coding error for its failure to provide proper documentation of brain injuries that have occurred on the Indiana Jones Adventure ride at Disneyland, Anaheim, Calif., but an attorney representing a woman who says she suffered a brain hemorrhage on the ride is not giving up and public rumblings about ride safety continue to grow.

Disney was fined for the second time in Los Angeles Superior Court for failing to provide proper documentation in this case, and was ordered to provide all records of patrons who have suffered brain hemorrhages after riding Disney park attractions by June 25.

Disney had provided a list of eight claims of brain hemorrhages on rides, seven at Disneyland and one at Walt Disney World near Orlando, which the judge deemed insufficient.

"The amusement park industry has to take a fresh look at the approach they're taking. Look at data, incidents in medical journals and elsewhere and come to recognize their rides are more injury prone than they may have wished them to be," Beverly Hills attorney Barry Novack told AB. Novack is representing 46-year-old Deborah Bynum, who says she suffered a brain hemorrhage after riding Indiana Jones in November 1998.

Novack filed a similar lawsuit against Disney in 1996 for Zipora Jacob, who said she suffered a brain hemorrhage riding Indiana Jones.

That suit was settled for an undisclosed amount in 1999. Disney was fined a total of $7,050 before turning over injury records, but Novack agreed to nondisclosure in the case, so he could not discuss the findings. He did say the records did not contain company secrets, or any other information that would warrant nondisclosure, so he is not making that kind of deal this time around.

Jacob is also representing another client who claims to have suffered orthopedic injuries on Indiana Jones, and two clients who claim to have suffered back and neck injuries on the Splash Mountain log flume at Disneyland.

06-16-2001, 09:36 AM
Disney was fined for the second time in Los Angeles Superior Court for failing to provide proper documentation in this case, and was ordered to provide all records of patrons who have suffered brain hemorrhages after riding Disney park attractions by June 25.

What a company....don't they realize what kind of damage they are doing to the company brand name?

Some company policy....aparently they feel like they're above the court system....a computer glitch could happen once. But oviously the judge isn't buying the excuse since he sanctioned them again.

That suit was settled for an undisclosed amount in 1999. Disney was fined a total of $7,050 before turning over injury records, but Novack agreed to nondisclosure in the case, so he could not discuss the findings. He did say the records did not contain company secrets, or any other information that would warrant nondisclosure, so he is not making that kind of deal this time around.

Ah Ha! Did they have the same computer glitch back then?

Why the secrecy? Why force the court into sanctions before providing the proper dicuments? And in two different cases no less....

06-16-2001, 04:50 PM
Park Guests Up Till 1998
May 1964: Mark Maples, a 15-year-old Long Beach, CA, resident, was killed when he tried to stand up on the Matterhorn Bobsleds. Maples (or his companion) foolishly unbuckled his seatbeat and attempted to stand up as their bobsled neared the peak of the mountain. Maples lost his balance and was thrown from the sled to the track below, fracturing his skull and ribs and causing internal injuries. He died three days later.

June 1966: Thomas Guy Cleveland, a 19-year-old Northridge, CA, resident, was killed when he attempted to sneak into Disneyland along the Monorail track. Cleveland scaled the park's sixteen-foot high outer fence on a Grad Nite and climbed onto the Monorail track, intending to jump or climb down once inside the park. Cleveland ignored a security guard's shouted warnings of an approaching Monorail train and failed to leap clear of the track. He finally climbed down onto a fiberglass canopy beneath the track, but the clearance wasn't enough -- the oncoming train struck and killed him, dragging his body 30 to 40 feet down the track.

August 1967: Ricky Lee Yama, a 17-year-old Hawthorne, CA, resident, was killed when he disregarded safety instructions and exited his People Mover car as the ride was passing through a tunnel. Yama slipped as he was jumping from car to car and was crushed to death beneath the wheels of oncoming cars.

June 1973: Bogden Delaurot, an 18-year-old Brooklyn resident, drowned trying to swim across the Rivers of America. Delaurot and his 10-year-old brother managed to stay on Tom Sawyer Island past its dusk closing time by climbing the fence separating the island from the burning settlers' cabin. When they decided to leave the island a few hours later, they chose to swim across the river rather than call attention to their rule-breaking by appealing to cast members for help. Because the younger brother did not know how to swim, Delaurot tried to carry him on his back as he swam to shore. Bogden Delaurot went down about halfway across the river. The younger boy remained afloat by dogpaddling until a ride operator hauled him aboard a boat, but Bogden was nowhere to be found. His body was not located by searchers until the next morning.

7 June 1980: Gerardo Gonzales, a recent San Diego high school graduate, was killed on the People Mover in an accident much like the one that had befallen Ricky Lee Yama thirteen years earlier. Gonzales, in the early morning hours of a Grad Nite celebration, was climbing from car to car as the People Mover entered the SuperSpeed Tunnel adjacent to the former America Sings building. Gonzales stumbled and fell onto the track, where an oncoming train of cars crushed him beneath its wheels and dragged his body a few hundred feet before being stopped by a ride operator.

4 June 1983: Philip Straughan, an 18-year-old Albuquerque, New Mexico, resident, also drowned in the Rivers of America in yet another Grad Nite incident. Straughan and a friend -- celebrating both their graduations and Straughan's eighteenth birthday -- had been drinking quite heavily that evening. They sneaked into a "Cast Members Only" area along the river and untied an inflatable rubber maintenance motorboat, deciding to take it for a joyride around the river. Unable to adequately control the boat, they struck a rock near Tom Sawyer Island, and Straughan was thrown into the water. His friend travelled back to shore to seek help, but Straughan drowned long before his body was finally located an hour later.

3 January 1984: Dolly Regene Young, a 48-year-old Fremont, CA, resident, was killed on the Matterhorn in an incident remarkably similar to the first Disneyland guest death nearly twenty years earlier. About two-thirds of the way down the mountain Young was thrown from her seat into the path of an oncoming bobsled, her head and chest becoming pinned beneath its wheels. An examination of Young's sled revealed that her seatbelt was not fastened at the time of the accident, but because she was riding alone in the rear car of a sled no one could determine whether or not she had deliberately unfastened her belt.

24 December 1998: In a tragic Christmas Eve accident, one Disneyland cast member and two guests were injured (one fatally) when a rope used to secure the sailing ship Columbia as it docked on the Rivers of America tore loose the metal cleat to which it was attached. The cleat sailed through air and struck the heads of two guests who were waiting to board the ship, Luan Phi Dawson, 33, of Duvall, Washington, and his wife, Lieu Thuy Vuong, 43. Dawson was declared brain dead two days later and died when his life support system was disconnected.
This accident resulted in the first guest death in Disneyland's history that was not attributable to any negligence on the part of the guest -- the accident was the result of a combination of insufficiently rigorous ride maintenance and an insufficiently experienced supervisor's assuming an attraction operator's role -- and prompted a movement for greater government oversight of theme park operations and safety procedures.

A little more than a week after Disneyland's refurbished Carousel of Progress theater reopened as America Sings in 1974, an 18-year-old cast member was killed when she became caught between a rotating wall and a stationary one. The Carousel of Progress had been shut down and its animatronic workings shipped to Florida's Walt Disney World in 1973; the Disneyland attraction was then revamped and debuted on 29 June 1974 as America Sings. Like its predecessor, the attraction featured an outer ring of six seating areas which rotated around a stationary center housing multiple stages.

On the evening of 8 July 1974, a 18-year-old woman from Santa Ana named Deborah Gail Stone was working the attraction as a hostess. Her job was to greet each new audience as they settled into the seating area. Standing to the left of the stage, she welcomed the guests over a microphone before the outer ring rotated and carried the audience to the first scene of the carousel. About 11:00 PM that evening, Stone approached too closely to the area between the rotating theater wall and the non-moving stage wall and was crushed to death between them. Ride operators were notified by a guest who heard Stone's screams from an adjacent theater.

Immediately after the accident, America Sings was closed for two days while a safety light that alerted the attraction's operator whenever someone got too close to the danger area was installed. Eventually the solid walls were replaced with breakaway ones to prevent similar accidents from occurring.

Also, I Girl was killed on Body Wars at WDW. :(

06-17-2001, 08:37 PM
I could have been a reporting error. Even if it was not why would Disney want to give out injury information unless it was a last resort.

In today's world of no personal responsibility they would open themselves up to even more lawsuits.

Pretty soon there will be pen's on chians (like at the bank) on every ride to sign a 10 page waiver of liability.

But then I suppose someone would get poked with the pen and sue about that. :rolleyes:

Dave O.
Tyler's 1st trip 12/01 - BWV

06-17-2001, 09:12 PM
I can see it now...

2022- Disney sued on Test Track Ride- One person was fatilay injured as they were climing out of the vehicle at the crash test zone. She climbed out and hit her head on the concreat. She died three days latter. Disney is being sued for causing the accadent for, "implying a false sense of danger". Test Track opened in 1999 after 2 years of testing. It was latter lengthend in 2012 to accomidate more people and was made faster from 65 mph to 110 mph... :rolleyes: