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Laurajean1014
07-06-2003, 04:43 PM
We are planning a vacation with DH, DS and two sets of friends that total 12 people. We want to book a Grand Villa, but are not sure if we should stay at OKW, BWV, BCV or VWL. Since it will be in 2004, maybe even Sarasota Springs.

The children's ages are: 11, 11, 9, 9, 8, 5
3 sets of parents (44, 43, 43, 40, 38, 37)

Which resort do you think would be the best and also, if you have a room number or can specify a view, that would be very helpful. Also, which GV has is the largest? It may come in handy with all the people we'll have.

Thank you.

L

Richyams
07-06-2003, 04:52 PM
OKW certainly beats VWL and BCV, I don't think anyone can disagree.

BWV points are nearly twice as much for a smaller unit that you can't park in front of.

OKW GV is the best by far.

But, 12 people will be tight. We only stay in those units, we like to invote people so they don't have to sleep with their kids, its really not a vacation if you have to share your room with your kids.

I would tell you to look into two two bedroom units at OKW. The living room/dining area is huge, far bigger than the other resorts. You could get them pretty close to eachother and have four bedrooms. One bedroom and living room for all the kids, the parents get their own bedrooms, it costs less points and you still have a huge meeting area.

We have stayed in GVs in every area of the resort. I haven't been so thrilled with any one area or dissapointed with any one area enough to request an area or a building.

Every room at OKW is great, each building has its charm.

Request qualities that are important rather than building numbers. Water, golf, near HH, bus or pool.

Geubux
07-06-2003, 04:58 PM
I believe Richyams left out one key point: There are no Grand Villas at VWL or BCV. He is the expert as far as roominess, so I would consider his point about two two bedrooms. Good luck and let us know what you choose.

Laurajean1014
07-06-2003, 05:52 PM
How about a one bedroom and a two bedroom? Each set of parents have their own bedroom and the kids get to use the pull out sofas! The only problem with that is their are 4 boys and 2 girls. The girls will have way more space than the boys unless we have a few stay with the parents, which they may or may not want.

The difference is: Grand Villa 372 points
1-1bedroom, 1-2 bedroom 404 points
2-2 bedroom 464 points

Do you think DVC will put a one bedroom next to a two bedroom unit?

Peterd
07-06-2003, 11:46 PM
It's whatever you're into.

To us, the BWV GV blows away Okw because of location. What's the use of having a great room, if you have to travel by car or bus to get to everything. The Vistana and Marriot resorts off of Disney property have very large rooms, but like Okw are far away from everything. Hence the parking spot in front of your room. YOU NEED IT.

It's nice to have 30 or so friends in your' room before going out for the night, knowing while you are downstairs or across the bay, your' kids are just upstairs. We usually get a GV, then about 5 or 6 rooms for friends. We meet at our place before going out. It's so nice to know we don't have to pile into 5 or 6 cars to go out for a good time. BW has the nightlife downstairs, more than one restaurant, easy access to the parks, themed pools you don't have to drive to, and so much more. It cost more points because why? it's pretty easy to figure out. To each his own, some love the Okw, others the BW, both great choices.

Try them both, until you do, you can't make a fair comparison. Some know it alls on the board try to say why there choice is so much better than the other one, but have never used the points or cash to actually stay in one. They compare them both, but haven't stayed at both. It's like someone saying a car is better than another car, but they haven't even test drove it yet. I would love to try the 3 bedroom at Vero, it looks great, but I know I don't have the knowledge to compare them to the other GVs because I haven't tried it yet. You can't go wrong with whatever resort you choose, but don't be swayed by someone's opinion who has never stayed in a GV at the BW with friends on a weekend. It's a great time.

AS for the 12 in a room, we usually do 8 to 10. Any more is pushing it, unless you want to have a camp out for the kids in the huge living room. The kids do like that once in awhile. We usually get a few more rooms for the others, so as everyone sleeps comfortable. Good luck with your choice, by the way we're staying in the BW GV in Nov, Okw GV half our trip in Feb, and the BW GV the rest of the trip. Both great choices. Enjoy!

Shamus
07-07-2003, 08:10 AM
BWV points are nearly twice as much for a smaller unit that you can't park in front of.


I'm not so sure the Grand Villas at Boardwalk are smaller than OKW --

A printout provided me from a DVC rep shows the following:
OKW 3 Bedroom Grand Villa 2,375 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (1 Story) 2,491 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (2 Story) 2,584 Square Feet

I do agree that they are more points, but they do offer a great view!!!!!!



SHAMUS

dianeschlicht
07-07-2003, 08:25 AM
Yep, it would be hard to stay in a GV at BCV or VWL since they don't have any!! As far as BWV, or OKW, GVs. I think ALL GVs are great and have lots of room. I have not seen the 2 story GVs at BWV, but I don't care for the openess of the big livingroom/kitchen if you have anyone stayin on the hide-a-bed in the living room. At OKW the upstairs bedrooms sleep 8 and are great for seperate family units. We gave each family unit a seperate bedroom last time we stayed in a GV, and let the teenagers have the living room. The advantage OKW has here is the large bathroom just for the use of the living room guests.

RWishbone
07-07-2003, 08:30 AM
We stayed in the BWV GV last January and it was awesome. The location, the views just can not be beat. However, I agree that 12 people may be a lot even for a GV. The living room is huge but there is only one pullout couch. As soon as someone wakes up in the morning, the only place they have to go is out into the living room. The alternative is to have 4 people in each bedroom which means that someone is sleeping on the floor in the MBR. Still we have had 2 2BRs and we have had the GV and you really can not go wrong with either. The 2 2BR setup favors the sleeping arrangements but when everyone is gathered in the GV room for a cocktail before heading back to the parks, it really feels special. We also thought that the Beach House at Vero was nice but IMHO it paled in comparison to the BWV GV.. Have fun deciding...Rich

DeeP
07-07-2003, 12:29 PM
A printout provided me from a DVC rep shows the following:
OKW 3 Bedroom Grand Villa 2,375 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (1 Story) 2,491 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (2 Story) 2,584 Square Feet
Looks like Mr Yams is going to have to change the percentages somewhat in his ad nauseum quote: % larger rooms, % less dues, etc., etc.,
LMAO!:)

sgtdisney
07-07-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Shamus
I'm not so sure the Grand Villas at Boardwalk are smaller than OKW --

A printout provided me from a DVC rep shows the following:
OKW 3 Bedroom Grand Villa 2,375 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (1 Story) 2,491 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (2 Story) 2,584 Square Feet

I do agree that they are more points, but they do offer a great view!!!!!!



SHAMUS

According to the DIS website, the average size of a GV at BWV is 2142 square feet. That makes sense since a GV is about the size of 6 studios and the studios average about 359 square feet. That is unless the DVC reps are counting the non-existant floorspace above the living area where it is vaulted..?

Shamus
07-07-2003, 02:23 PM
According to the DIS website, the average size of a GV at BWV is 2142 square feet. That makes sense since a GV is about the size of 6 studios and the studios average about 359 square feet. That is unless the DVC reps are counting the non-existant floorspace above the living area where it is vaulted..?


sgtdisney
The same printout provided to me lists the BWV Studio @ 412 Square Feet. 412 x 6 = 2472 which is close to the 2491 quoted.


Laurajean1014
Here are some of my thoughts which may (or may not) help you:
- All BWV GVs have a "Boardwalk View", The OKW GVs have nice Garden, Canal, and or Golf Course views.
-As mentioned 12 people may in fact be tight since 2 will need to use the couch or floor.
-OKW does have the "powder room" which is a nice bonus
-The 3rd Bedroom at BWV offers 2 queen size beds where OKW offers 2 Doubles.
-Each resort offers its own overall pluses and minuses.

Anyway I really don't want to see this turn into another one of those "My DVC is better than your DVC" threads. When it comes down to it -
All DVC Grand Villas are comparable in size and a Great Place to Stay!!!!!!



SHAMUS

luvindisneyworld
07-07-2003, 02:26 PM
The GVs at OKW are larger than the ones at BW.Someone has given wrong info.

DeeP
07-07-2003, 03:14 PM
Someone has given wrong info.
It seems as though this was printed literature that was given out to a member by DVC. Maybe someone should inform DVC that they are giving out "wrong info".
LOL. :)
I personally could care less the actual square footage of ANY of the DVC units, they are ALL very nice, but I can 't help but get a laugh over the ever re occuring size thing that ALWAYS surfaces regarding OKW vs all other DVC units. It has certainly given me a laugh on this boring Mon at work after a holiday. LOL

dianeschlicht
07-07-2003, 03:49 PM
All DVC Grand Villas are comparable in size and a Great Place to Stay!!!!!!
My sentiments exactly! I just think if you have someone staying in the living room, the extra bath at OKW is nice. Of course, the last time we had a GV at OKW, the shower in the LR guest bath leaked, and a maintance man walked in on my poor DS, who was there showering while the rest of us were out!:o

DeeP
07-07-2003, 06:00 PM
BW has the nightlife downstairs, more than one restaurant, easy access to the parks, themed pools you don't have to drive to, and so much more. It cost more points because why? it's pretty easy to figure out.
Very good point and one that is most often poo pooed aside as insignificant when the same old %bigger rooms, % less dues litany is posted again and again, etc. LOL
It is funny that you would post this because just last week I was talking to a DVC CM regarding the BWV bus transportation and while I had her on the phone we got into a pretty lengthy conversation regarding DVC dues, the disbursement of the dues, variation of dues amounts between resorts etc. When I asked if the reason why BWV dues were 70 or 80 cents higher (whatever they are, I am not sure) over OKW was due to the much more enhanced pool, lifeguards, etc. , she literally laughed (in a nice way) and said yes the pool did account for the higher dues somewhat but mostly is was due to the much better location, etc., her excact words were: "it is a higher grade resort".
Believe me I DO NOT want to start a resort debate but it is riduculous how inevitably a post saying "OKW is the best" as a blanket statement is posted without even taking into consideration any of the factors of the traveling group, preferences, etc.

Laurajean1014
07-07-2003, 07:01 PM
Ok, so I'm pretty much sold on the GV versus the one and two bedroom units. I like the "coming together" experience you get from a one great room.

Now it's picking which resort. I can ask the families, but that may cause confusion. I will be there in 9 days, so I can check them out myself. Maybe even take digital pics for the families to see them.

The larger the rooms the better, but layout is always important. The view at BWV is nice, but OKW has a beautiful view and a golf course. We will have 3 adult golfers and 3 children golfers. It is also much more laid back and family oriented. That in no way makes me think BWV is lacking. I love BWV's pool area.

Do the BWV's have views of Illuminations? We stayed at BWV in a one bedroom and our room gave us a great view of Epcot Illuminations (although we had to walk a mile from room to the lobby! (That's a heck of a walk when your tired, hung over or wet from the pool!

Keep the info coming.....

As for

kathleena
07-07-2003, 07:20 PM
I was just be happy if I could afford to get a GV - anywhere, anytime, any view, any parking, any size.

But if I had a choice, I would say the heck with the points, I'm going for the BWV.

Another point to the original poster - most of what I have read here on these boards say you need the 11 month window to get a GV. If you are hoping to get one at a 7 month window, it looks like that might make the choice for you.

Where do you have your points?

InstImpres
07-07-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Laurajean1014

Now it's picking which resort. I can ask the families, but that may cause confusion. I will be there in 9 days, so I can check them out myself. Maybe even take digital pics for the families to see them.

Sounds like we are both having the same thoughts as I just decided on a GV and will also be there next week. Talked with MS today, the villas are booked solid. Slight chance of sneaking in to peak if you pick the perfect time Saturday or Sunday,

Maybe we should compare notes in 2 wekks:)
Sandy

DeeP
07-07-2003, 08:35 PM
Do the BWV's have views of Illuminations? We stayed at BWV in a one bedroom and our room gave us a great view of Epcot Illuminations
All the BWV GV's have a boardwalk view so yes you will be able to see something of the fireworks, obviously other GVs have better views than others but all the GV's have a much desired and coveted view.
The larger the rooms the better, but layout is always important. The view at BWV is nice, but OKW has a beautiful view and a golf course. We will have 3 adult golfers and 3 children golfers. It is also much more laid back and family oriented. That in no way makes me think BWV is lacking. I love BWV's pool area.
The size difference between the two GVs in the 2 different resorts is not significant enough to really matter; and the actuall size difference on which resorts GV is actually bigger is still a question unanswered with differing info, however, but both are very nice and very spacious.
If golfing for some of your traveling group is very important and also the more laid back atmosphere is important to your group then OKW's GV is the way to go. There is not a golf course any where as near to BWV as the one that almost completely surrounds OKW. OKW is also a definitely much more quiet and secluded, and an much more away from the action resort than any of the Epcot or MK resorts are.
Have a wonderful vacation, all of the DVC resorts are wonderful and the GVs are the crown jewels of all DVC resorts no matter where you stay! Enjoy!!!!

FredS
07-07-2003, 08:48 PM
OKW units are significantly larger and I can say that while BW is quite convenient to Epcot, it is about the same travel time to MGM and a longer trek to Animal Kingdom and the Magic Kingdom. I can't tell you how much I hate riding the buses which "make the rounds" between Boardwalk, Beach Club, Swan, Dolphin and whatever else they decide to throw in en route. I think the Downtown Disney bus trip from BCV, instead of the delightful boat trip from OKW, involves a side trip to every bus stop in the Downtown area, as well as a water park or two. .:rolleyes:

BWV are a beautiful resort and we will stay at BWV on our next trip, which involves one evening at MK then two days at Epcot. BWV's location is perfect for our plans on that trip. On our usual trips with visits to several areas (not as focused on Epcot) it just seems to me that overall OKW is more centrally located and the direct bus service is invaluable.

DeeP
07-07-2003, 09:21 PM
I would choose the OKW GV
OKW units are significantly larger
No they are not, when comparing GVs the size difference betwenn OKW GVs and BWV GVs is very similiar and not significant enough to matter, and the really funny part is the actual coveted "extra" space is not even detemined as to which DVC's GV can actually stand up and accept the grand prize of "THE BIGGEST". But when you really think about it...........who cares???????

Richyams
07-07-2003, 09:31 PM
Except that the kitchen are is that same awful area as the other rooms. Really no working area. I was in a single floor unit and it IS appreciably smaller, really without a doubt. I think the bedrooms were close, but the main area was definitely smaller and the kitchen was awful.

DeeP
07-07-2003, 09:53 PM
Except that the kitchen are is that same awful area as the other rooms. Really no working area. I was in a single floor unit and it IS appreciably smaller, really without a doubt. I think the bedrooms were close, but the main area was definitely smaller and the kitchen was awful.
LMAO!!!! :)

TerriBelle
07-08-2003, 09:18 AM
We have stayed in a 1 story BW GV and loved it!!!!!

We had 9 nine people staying there - My parents, my family (2 A, 3 k) and my sister & husband. The location for us was great.
We enjoyed watching the fireworks and the boardwalk performers every night from the balcony. It was easy to walk/boat to Epcot & MGM. Lots of restaurants close by. We all enjoyed the pool and the community hall.

For my family the Epcot resort area is our favorite. That does not mean that OKW is not great. It just means we enjoy the BW area more! Our home resort is the BW and we called every day to reserve the GV.

Hope you are able to reserve a GV.

sgtdisney
07-08-2003, 09:49 AM
If you have made up your mind on the Grand Villa, compare the difference in points between BWV and OKW. If I remember correctly the point difference is substantially different depending on when you are going. Just one more thing to consider.

CaptainMidnight
07-08-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by DeeP
No they are not, when comparing GVs the size difference betwenn OKW GVs and BWV GVs is very similiar and not significant enough to matter, and the really funny part is the actual coveted "extra" space is not even detemined as to which DVC's GV can actually stand up and accept the grand prize of "THE BIGGEST". But when you really think about it...........who cares???????
Isn't one of the GV's "the only true DVC resort GV" while the other one is not a true DVC resort GV but offers non-true DVC amenities like rooms service, boat service to two major parks, several restaraunts within walking distance, and valet service?

Availability may be another issue. I believe there are only 9 GV at BWV and several more than that at OKW. I'm not sure of the exact numbers. Perhaps another more knowledgable poster knows. We plan on going for the beach cottage at Vero sometime.

Jimbo
07-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by sgtdisney
If you have made up your mind on the Grand Villa, compare the difference in points between BWV and OKW. If I remember correctly the point difference is substantially different depending on when you are going. Just one more thing to consider. The thing that's always seemed odd about GV points at BWV is that the weekday vs. weekend ratio is different than for any other room on property. For the rest of the "world" the cost during the week is about 40-to-50% that of the weekend.

But for a BWV GV it's around 80%:

Adventure Season: 74 Sun-Thu, 94 Fri-Sat
Choice Season: 79 Sun-Thu, 96 Fri-Sat
Dream Season: 88 Sun-Thu, 118 Fri-Sat
Magic Season: 108 Sun-Thu, 130 Fri-Sat
Premier Season: 130 Sun-Thu, 158 Fri-Sat

Anybody know why?

reneesam
07-08-2003, 04:14 PM
Also, remember that even with more GV available at OKW, most are booked at 11 months and often day-to-day. So, your decision may be made by your own home resort priority, if you don't plan to rent or trade your points.

DeeP
07-08-2003, 09:13 PM
Anybody know why?
It is elementary Dear Watson....supply and demand.
There are a lot fewer BWV GVs than OKW GVs and also the Epcot resort area is a very much more desired/coveted location.

Jimbo
07-08-2003, 10:14 PM
But how does that explain points for GVs on weekdays being boosted so much more than on weekends? It doesn't make a bit of sense to me.

childsplay
07-08-2003, 10:48 PM
But how does that explain points for GVs on weekdays being boosted so much more than on weekends? It doesn't make a bit of sense to me.



I'll take a swing at this........

The point structure developed by DVC is like a handicapping system in Vegas...it attempts to make all days "equally desirable".

It's like any given Sunday during football season... if there were no point spreads eveybody would bet on the prohibitive favorities and nobody would bet on the stinky teams..... but if Vegas says "Hey, we'll give ya 13 points if you bet on the stinky team now they get some takers....in fact Vegas wants to have the same amount of people betting on both sides of the game (meaning they try and set the line so half the people bet on the favorite and half the people bet on the underdog). That way they win no matter what, its called "the juice". The last thing they want is for everybody to bet on one side, under this scenario that have a chance of losing...not what Vegas is into.

Now flip over to DVC, they want to try and obtain full occupancy across the week and year. They do this by "handicapping" the rooms. If you want weekends..."well that's gonna cost ya sailor"...however if you could see your way clear to take a Wednesday... "well then maybe we can give ya a break".

Now to your question (finally), you point out that at most DVC resorts the split is about 50/50, meaning you can stay Sun. - Thurs. for the same point total as Fri. and Sat. True. But this split is not set in stone and only exisits because it produces the disired outcome....even occupancy between weekends and weeknights. Apparently at the BWV GV a different point structure is needed to produce the desired effect.
As DeeP pointed out, it is really a matter of supply and demand and what the market will bear........DVC charges more during the week for BW GV because they can get it....if no one was booking during the week and eveybody was just booking weekends they would have to make a change...it seems right now that is not the case....hence the current point structure.

By the way, since this is pure speculation on my part this whole explaination might be entirely wrong.

SCCaguioa
07-08-2003, 10:59 PM
I haven't stayed at a GV yet, however for us, I believe the decision would come down to the following:

1) Location, location, location = convenience = 'In the middle of it all" = BWV GV
2) Easy access to your vehicle = convenience = getting to 'In the middle of it all' = OKW GV

So, I guess the biggest question would be, "Would you allow WDW to handle all your transportation needs or would you rather handle the transportation yourself?"

Yes, OKW has buses allowing access throughout da World, but at BW / BWV you have so many other transportation options within short distances (unless you want to do the monorail requiring you to walk from BW to Future World)
Also, I've heard the OKW buses aren't very timely...Any input on this??

WDWguru
07-09-2003, 02:46 AM
According to previous threads on this board:

OKW = 27 GVs
BWV = 7 GVs

Merilyn
07-09-2003, 07:10 AM
We have stayed in a GV at OKW and BWV. They are both very nice. I would have to say that I think OKW is larger, but I could be wrong. We take 12 people many times and there is plenty of room. No one is ever there at the same time and we never all eat at the same time. I like BWV because of the location, but the points are really too high. We rent a car anyway so the ride is not that bad. We own at OKW so getting a GV there is easy. Getting one at BWV is more difficult. I don't think you will have a problem with 12 in your GV, we sure don't. Good luck with your decision.

NJDVCmember
07-09-2003, 08:39 AM
We had a family reunion in January for 16 of us and I finally decided on a GV and 2 studios and it worked out great. I was so happy and surprised when I called and got the BW GV.

We had 9 in the GV so plenty of room and most important to us...it was so easy to get anywhere. Take a bus, a boat or even walk to the parks....restraunts were everywhere. I would do it again in BW in a minute. The view and location was wonderful.
Remember you are not just sitting in your room all day.
I would vote for BW....being fair I have never stayed in OKW GV but have stayed there in a 2 bedroom.....the location is wonderful for my family vacation. But with a family reunion I still vote for BW!

Richyams
07-09-2003, 08:56 AM
Jennymouse realted the joy of BWV busses in her trip report over on the trip reports board:

Before we hit the sack the night before, we'd discussed where we'd go today and decided we'd try early entry at Animal Kingdom. I'd never tried EE at AK before and thought it would be a good thing to get some stuff done early since the park gets hot/crowded so fast. We bypassed the Boardwalk Bakery in favor of the HOT cinnomon rolls at Tusker House in AK and made our way to the Boardwalk bus stop. This would be our first experience with the buses from BW and we arrived there at 7:15am. There were already two families there who said they'd been there since 7am so I figured we'd see the bus at any moment. The longer we waited, the crowdeder the bus stop became. A bus for MK came & went, but there was only one family going there. A bus for "Character Breakfast" came and only one family got on. I knew there was a character breakfast at AK too, so I thought we might could ride this but, but I was told no breakfast PS no entry. So we all sat/standed/fummed and waited for the AK bus until it finally showed up, already 3/4 full from it's stops at Swan/Dolphin & YC/BC, at 7:55am. The crowd, some 50-60 strong, stormed the bus leaving my crew, one of the first to arrive, in it's dust. We would not be taking that bus to AK and since we'd have to wait for another to arrive and since it was already time for AK to open, it just didn't make any since to wait for the AK bus at all. Disappointed, we made our way to the Boardwalk Bakery and sat and ate cold cinnomon rolls before walking over to Epcot for the day.

The ease and convenience has a lot to be said for it, NOT!

Peterd
07-09-2003, 01:57 PM
"The ease and convenience has a lot to be said for it, NOT"

I guess the BW is the only resort with Bus problems? We used the buses on one trip, and never again. Kids tried them at Okw also, and said never again. Lucky they had the option of walking or taking the boat to Epcot. I guess To complain about cold buns at the bakery is probably easier to do than to ask them to heat them up? Some do order them cold, some hot.
I hope that was the least of the problems they faced on vacation. Next time, they'll probably rent a car to drive to the parks not within walking distance or a boat ride.

Over the years you learn, expect lines for buses at early entry and at the end of the day when the parks close.

DisneyMeMa
07-09-2003, 02:49 PM
The OP question was where are the best WDW GVs located. First let me say "I really don't know." The GVs we have stayed in are really nice and have good locations. In June we stayed in OKW GV 4824 Sun.-Thurs. and BWV GV 3047 Thurs.-Sun. At OKW we were across the street from the bus stop and had a very nice golf course view (we really liked seeing our "boys" play past us on the LBV course and is was easy for them to get to an Osprey Ridge 7:20 tee time from OKW.) Overall a good location. The BWV GV was above the Screen Door. The BW view was terrific and the MBR is on the corner so the view is both courtyard and water. Now, for a few negatives...3047 BWV is a handicap accessible room. We had made these reservations 11 months in advance requesting non smoking and non handicap. I was disappointed. MS does try to accommodate all of us, but since there are so few BWV GVs (7), some of us just don't get what we want. We were all very comfortable at OKW, not so at BWV. Everything was very nice, but storage space IMHO was very limited and the kitchen was quite inconvenient. Even the furniture arrangement was different that I remembered. The MBR bath and one of the other bedroom baths were HA. On the positive side, the BWV GV had at least 5 thermostats - one in each of the bedrooms and at least two in the living room/dining/kitchen areas. This GV is only a short walk to the elevator. Something else you might want to think about is when you have one GV you only have one refrigerator and one washer/dryer (BWV GVs are full size, not the stackable ones) When you have two two bedrooms, you not only have 2 regular refrigerators, but if they are lock-off units you also have the studio refrigerators and microwaves. However, if you all want to be together, the GVs can't be beat. Enjoy your vacation and your planning.

Laurajean1014
07-09-2003, 05:00 PM
I'm not worried about the transportation thing. We are all well (no one needing EVC or wheelchairs), and no one small enough to need a stroller. With those two things out of the picture, it's alot easier.

We own at BWV and OKW and I have to say OKW is better by design. BWV is great, with some good restaurants, the boardwalk and ESPN, but I see the tremendous walk from the "heart of it all" to your room or pool, weighing heavy on my guests.

Does BWV have large balconies or eat out patios like OKW? I can see my guests grabbing a bottle of Luna and sitting out on the deck overlooking the golf course or the lake.

The only thing better than that would be if BWV offered the same thing, with the Illuminations fireworks over our heads...... that would be great.

DeeP
07-09-2003, 08:39 PM
The ease and convenience has a lot to be said for it, NOT!
Having stayed at BWV more times then I can count and also always relying on Disney transportation to both MK and AK, and having stayed at BWV relying on Disney transportation during the busiest times of the year including Christmas, Easter and 4th of July.........I can say without a doubt the experience posted was the minority by far and definitely not the norm. The ease and convenience to parks, restaurants, etc from all the Epcot resorts is the best on WDW property by far.

TerriBelle
07-10-2003, 06:29 AM
Laurajean1014,

All the GVs for the BW are located directlly above the BW. We used a set of stairs at the end of the building that dumped you almost right on the boardwalk. We did not find the rooms far from the "heart of it all". You just need to fiqure out which exits/entrances to use depending on where you want to go. We only went thru the lobby if we were going to the busses. The GV we stayed in had a large balcony. If you look at a picture of the BW, many of the rooms are in the building with the large white pillars. The one with the Boardwalk sign on it. Our room was the top 2 floors on the right. The 1 floor units have a large balcony.

NJDVCmember
07-10-2003, 07:44 AM
The one story GV at BW has a separte deck for the master bedroom with two chairs and a small table, a huge deck for the main room (and I mean huge) and another deck that the two other bedrooms share. We could see some of the fireworks from our deck. It was very nice to hang outside for cocktails and snacks.

InstImpres
07-10-2003, 09:20 AM
When you reserve at BWV, do you reserve a 1 story or 2 story, or is it luck of the draw? We don't need handicapped accessible but we do need 1 floor, the stairs are tough on 2 members of our party.

Thanks
Sandy

TerriBelle
07-10-2003, 11:15 AM
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We actually requested a 1 story but got a 2 story. The 1 stories were not checking out until the next day. They only have 2 of the 1 stories so you might need to request handicapped access.

Laurajean1014
07-10-2003, 04:32 PM
Are all the bedroom on the 2 story GV upstairs (away from the common areas of the GV)?

Which did you prefer 1 or 2 story units?

Thanks, L

DisneyMeMa
07-10-2003, 06:38 PM
Like many others on this board, I am confused about BCV GVs. I got out our POSs and found the following: 9/97 POS p. 26 has 5 BWV GVs; 5/98 POS p.18 has 2 BWVs GVs; and the rev. 8/24/98 POS p.14 has 7 BWVs GVs. No wonder there is confusion. I was told by the CM at the BCV registration desk that there are 7 GVs - 5 are one story and 2 are two story. I don't know if this is correct or not because this is the same CM who told me that in our villa two of the baths would have the usual configuration and one would be handicapped accessible, and I am certain that was not correct! I assume there is only one HA BWV GV, she did not say. She also said many members are adamant about wanting the two story units. With so few BWV GVs I think it would be very difficult to know in advance what you will get. Again, we reserved 11 months in advance and still got a (possibly THE) HA unit. My DH said "never again." LOL. We'll see... I'm just glad we don't need a HA unit and didn't spend the entire vacation in it.

Laurajean1014
07-13-2003, 09:59 AM
Now we are thinking of asking another family to join us. That makes 4 families and now the pack looks like this:

45, 45, 44, 44, 43, 40, 39, 39

12(g), 11(g), 11(b), 10(b), 9(b), 9(b), 8(b), 5(g).

So, now that we are 16, I guess we need a GV and a one bedroom! Hey, if it gets any bigger, we can ask Disney for a Group rate! LOL!

Still think BWV is better on location, but OKW is more relaxing and more practical setting. Still don't know where to stay!

DeeP
07-13-2003, 04:54 PM
With all those people your group will probably split up a lot and a BWV GV will be in a much easier location to have convenient easy, access to several parks, numerous restaurants, shopping, themed pool w/slide etc., especailly if not each group has a car!
The down side is since you now will need an additional 1 br, the 1 br unit will be much smaller than the 1 br at OKW. The GVs are approx the same size at both resorts, the actual "true dimensions" and the winner of the "biggie" trophy is still not officially confirmed LOL, but both GVs are very roomy and very much deluxe accomendations. Enjoy!

Laurajean1014
07-13-2003, 06:52 PM
However, if I now need a one bedroom and a GV, the points are easier to swallow at OKW than at BWV!

Still in deep, in this mess!

DeeP
07-13-2003, 08:43 PM
Without a doubt, the point difference is a big factor between the GV's at OKW and BWV, because it is a very substantial difference! I find, out of all the DVC units, they really sock you in the pts difference for the advantages of the location and amenities offered at a BWV GV vs OKW GV much more than they do for the other size units. If you want a BWV GV, they are few and far between and you definitely pay the premium price to stay there, but they are utterly true deluxe accomendations to the hilt, in an unbeatable, convenient location to several parks, numerous restaurants, all types of entertainment, all deluxe resort amenities, etc., right there for your pleasure-- Disney knows this and they do charge for it and they charge heavily for it whether you are paying pts or paying cash.

Richyams
07-13-2003, 10:34 PM
I agree LauraJean, they are too many points. Especially when you look at the akward, ugly kitchen and the hike to your car.

I don't care what conflicting information there is on other sites, the BWV GV is smaller, considerably so.

There are nights that the points cost twice as much as OKW, I think its a rip off, I would never bother staying in one.

Laurajean1014
07-14-2003, 08:56 AM
During this fall, I will speak to the families that we are inviting on this vacation. I told one family that we plan to do this for a week, and if anyone wanted to stay longer, they can do so, on their own. I think that's fair. We are supplying the accomodations for the week, but would like their input on where to stay. Most will probably not care, but one or two families may prefer OKW to BWV (because of the family type atmosphere and the exquisite golfing conditions).

DeeP
07-14-2003, 05:56 PM
I don't care what conflicting information there is on other sites, the BWV GV is smaller, considerably so.
From the below post is appears that this info was a printout provided to a DVC member FROM a DVC rep! So it is not on "other sites", nor is what you care about really relevant.
A printout provided me from a DVC rep shows the following:
OKW 3 Bedroom Grand Villa 2,375 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (1 Story) 2,491 Square Feet
BWV 3 Bedroom Grand Villa (2 Story) 2,584 Square Feet

There are nights that the points cost twice as much as OKW, I think its a rip off, I would never bother staying in one.
That is fine and what makes DVC so nice with so many choices, but there are many people that prefer the BWV GV and gladly pay the pts required for a stay there and once again what you care about, like or would bother with, are not relevant.

Laurajean1014
07-14-2003, 06:09 PM
Believe me, both places offer incredible rewards to staying on their property. (That's why the other places are not being considered). It's not which one is better, it's which one is the best for this situation of 8 adults and 8 children for one week during an off season week.

DeeP
07-14-2003, 07:00 PM
There are a few factors you need to consider for your group size and group makeup and then weigh them out according to priorities. Such as:
You mentioned several people wanting golf, if this is a biggie then OKW is way more convenient.
You mentioned the "family atmopshere", I am not so sure one resort is more family than the other but in regards to being a quiet and laid back resort OKW definitely takes the cake.
Will the group split up alot?
Will there be several cars if the group splits up?
Will the majority of meals be eaten out or in the villa?
Will the group make use of the nighttime entertainment/shows that an Epcot resort provides including the clubs for adults?
Is a themed pool with a slide important to the group?
For the last 5 questions depending on the answers, a BWV GV would be much more convenient and provide much easier access to parks, nighttime entertainment and restaurants due to it's excellent location and various means of transportation available.
This is said over and over again on this board,........ it all depends on what you want, what is most important, convenient, etc to your family/traveling group.
ALL WDW resorts are nice even the value resorts and the DVC resorts are certainly NOT an exception.

Laurajean1014
07-22-2003, 10:25 AM
DeeP, These are great questions. Once we invite the whole crew, we can better answer these questions. I believe that we will have minimum car renting, therefore will split up from time to time. With this large of a crowd, I believe we will have a good amount of dining in the room or table service inside the parks. IT will be tough to get priority seating for up to 16.

I am in WDW now and will be checking out the GV's at OKW and BWV. I will want to stress a building or a room number when applying for ressies.

When we get back from WDW, we plan to have a cookout and ask our friends then to see if they want to do it (and when). We want to do it in the fall, but our friends have kids representing 4 school districts (2 are private). We are thinking the day after Thanksgiving and during the week after. Sort of a slow time with not alot happening in the schools. We will miss hockey tournaments but oh welll.

We are also trying to book the cruise ship with the ice rink and have four travel teams compete on a tourney on the boat. My friend owns a travel agency and can plan this for us.

If anyone has any other quesitons I should ask my group, please let me know.

Thanks, L

InstImpres
07-22-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Laurajean1014

If anyone has any other quesitons I should ask my group, please let me know.

Laura -

I am in the same situation as you, are group keeps growing and we no longer fit in 1GV. I have some to the conclusion the less questions asked the better. I still want some control over my trip. I am giving the info, here is the accomodations, here is my "trip plan" (PS's and park planning), please let me know what to count you in on. I often gets teased as this is a lenghty packet. It has resorts maps and floorplans as well as desreptions and reviews for PS's. People than pick and chose and I reserve accordingly. I've been successful this way in the past and hope it will work in the future as the group is growing larger.

BTW, I looked at the GV at BWV last week and it is amazing:)

Good luck
Sabdt

Laurajean1014
07-22-2003, 09:10 PM
I spoke with CM's at OKW and they are advising me of a GV tour when one is available. Also, a listing of all the building numbers, so I can requestk at booking.

The CM's mentioned that OKW has the best, but I am sure that's what the CM's at BWV will say.

I agree on the less the questions the better. Also, if the families do not like the resort location they can (1) stay at their resort fav and meet us or (2) play and stay with us and extend their trip at their favorite resort.

The CM's also mentioned that it is not difficult to book Ps's for parties of 12 or 16. They make them all the time. Has anyone had experience with this as well?

Laurajean1014
07-24-2003, 03:53 PM
Does anyone have GV building numbers???

Please respond.

Thanks, L

sgtdisney
07-24-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Laurajean1014
Does anyone have GV building numbers???

Please respond.

Thanks, L

I am assuming you mean for OKW. WebmasterDoc has compiled a list of buildings and the types of units that are in them.

Here is a link...

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146435